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Title: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: mrpablue on May 05, 2018, 02:59:06 AM
Is this ok? Do you tolerate this?

Examples:

CA299/5

OR22/5

WA512/5

Breezewood, depending how you look at it

You get the idea. Your thoughts?
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: Bickendan on May 05, 2018, 05:34:15 AM
OR 217 at I-5
OR 224 at I-205 (technicality, but will be a valid entry once the Sunrise Project is fully finished)
Delta Highway at OR 569
Aforementioned OR 22 at I-5
Future: OR 62 at I-5

WA 512 at I-5 used to be a full interchange, now qualifies
WA 518 at WA 509
WA 509 at I-705
WA 303 at WA 3
WA 99 at itself/WA 509
US 395 at I-90 (technicality)

US 169 at US 14 (technicality)
US 14 at US 52/63
US 63 at US 52
US 52 at I-90
US 63/MN 30 at I-90 (technicality)
US 10/61 at I-90/US 12 (technicality)
MN 101 at I-94
MN 101 at US 10
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: hotdogPi on May 05, 2018, 05:36:42 AM
MA 140 at MA 24 in Taunton
I-291 (MA) at I-90

People have complained about the second one.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: DandyDan on May 05, 2018, 05:40:32 AM
US 53 at I-90 at LaCrosse, WI
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: Max Rockatansky on May 05, 2018, 07:31:15 AM
AZ 143 at I-10. 
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: froggie on May 05, 2018, 09:17:07 AM
Quote from: BickendanUS 169 at US 14 (technicality)

Not with two traffic signals south of 14 before you even get to the interchange...

QuoteUS 14 at US 52/63

MnDOT classifies 14 as expressway, not freeway, despite the interchange at West Circle.

QuoteUS 63/MN 30 at I-90 (technicality)

Not a freeway and with multiple at-grades between 48th and I-90.

QuoteUS 10/61 at I-90/US 12 (technicality)

How?  There are multiple traffic signals between 494 and 94, including two fairly close to 94.

QuoteMN 101 at I-94

Southbound only.  And even then, there's a signal at Diamond Lake Rd before one gets to 94.

(Your other Minnesota examples, though, are legit.)


Another example not mentioned yet:  MS 7 at US 278/MS 6 in Oxford.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: US 89 on May 05, 2018, 09:42:30 AM
I hate these. It suggests laziness and a lack of effort by the DOT to build a whole freeway and then not build a full system interchange  where it intersects another freeway.

US 40 at I-80: it’s a SPUI. There are two direct ramps, but that’s not enough.
UT 154 (Bangerter Highway) at I-15: Bangerter is now a freeway from I-15 to 2700 West, but it ends at a SPUI on I-15.
US 89 at I-84: 89 is a freeway from Antelope Dr all the way up to 84, but the 84/89 interchange has traffic lights and at-grade intersections.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: Mapmikey on May 05, 2018, 10:04:42 AM
VA 37 at I-81 south of Winchester.

WV 43 at I-68 near Morgantown.

NC 295 at I-95/US 13 (partial) near Fayetteville.

US 29 at I-64 Charlottesville?

Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: mgk920 on May 05, 2018, 10:41:48 AM
Quote from: DandyDan on May 05, 2018, 05:40:32 AM
US 53 at I-90 at LaCrosse, WI

US 12 at I-90/94 - Lake Delton (Wisconsin Dells area), WI.
US 12/WI 29 at I-94 - Roberts, WI.

Mike
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: webny99 on May 05, 2018, 10:47:05 AM
If a freeway ends at an at-grade, then it can't also end at a freeway - because the at-grade makes it not a freeway.
Does that not seem like a logical conclusion?  :hmmm:

(ETA: Future US 219 (freeway) and I-86 will be a diamond interchange, is this along the lines of what the OP is looking for?)
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: hotdogPi on May 05, 2018, 11:25:35 AM
Quote from: webny99 on May 05, 2018, 10:47:05 AM
If a freeway ends at an at-grade, then it can't also and at a freeway - because the at-grade makes it not a freeway.
Does that not seem like a logical conclusion?  :hmmm:

Except in Tulsa, where two freeways end at the same at-grade intersection.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: jp the roadgeek on May 05, 2018, 11:27:40 AM
How about I-676 with itself?  FHWA sees it all as one route, but PennDOT and NJDOT see them as separate.  They are connected by an at-grade interchange in Center City Philadelphia

US 5 and MA 57 freeways.  MA 57 ends in a traffic circle. 

I-587 at I-87
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: Eth on May 05, 2018, 11:45:33 AM
The freeway portion of GA 141 ends at a 6-ramp parclo (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9132546,-84.2869462,902m/data=!3m1!1e3) with I-285.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: Roadwarriors79 on May 05, 2018, 12:15:41 PM
In AZ, Loop 303 at I-17. Freeway-to-freeway ramps are planned sometime in the distant future. For now, it works. Traffic isn't too bad at this intersection.

AZ 143 at I-10 was also mentioned. Only one of the four movements (EB 10 to NB 143) requires going through a traffic signal. There have been plans in the past to completely rebuild this interchange, but only minor improvements are scheduled anytime soon. Biggest improvement needed is a flyover to replace the loop ramp connecting SB 143 to EB 10.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: SSOWorld on May 05, 2018, 12:25:41 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on May 05, 2018, 10:41:48 AM
Quote from: DandyDan on May 05, 2018, 05:40:32 AM
US 53 at I-90 at LaCrosse, WI

US 12 at I-90/94 - Lake Delton (Wisconsin Dells area), WI.
US 12/WI 29 at I-94 - Roberts, WI.

Mike
Was worse - WIS-29 used to interchange with US-51 at the West split at a diamond until 2008.  Now that's a Y with flyovers.  (also: U-51:I-39?)
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: renegade on May 05, 2018, 12:32:09 PM
US-24 at I-469 near Fort Wayne.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: Thing 342 on May 05, 2018, 12:37:07 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on May 05, 2018, 10:04:42 AM
US 29 at I-64 Charlottesville?
No need for a question mark, exiting from the freeway to I-64 E requires crossing traffic from US-29 N to I-64 W.

Others I've ventured past:
The VA-199 freeway's northern end at I-64 is a nonstandard parclo.
Wade Ave. at I-440 in Raleigh.
Summerlin Pkwy at CC 215 in West Las Vegas. (Would also include the beltway's current northern end at I-15 near Nellis, but it's not yet a freeway at that point)
Slightly complicated, but FL 826's ending at Florida's Turnpike in the Golden Glades interchange is effectively a parclo.
The northern end of I-99 in PA at I-80.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: sparker on May 05, 2018, 03:40:00 PM
US 190 with I-35 in Temple, TX.  One of TXDOT's ubiquitous volleyballs (yes, I consider them at-grade intersections -- since signal-controlled movement governs transit from one facility to another). 
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: 1995hoo on May 05, 2018, 04:06:37 PM
Quote from: Thing 342 on May 05, 2018, 12:37:07 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on May 05, 2018, 10:04:42 AM
US 29 at I-64 Charlottesville?
No need for a question mark, exiting from the freeway to I-64 E requires crossing traffic from US-29 N to I-64 W.

....

I could see why the question mark might be deemed appropriate because US-29 isn't a freeway south of there. I don't know whether this is what the OP had in mind because I didn't look at a map to see the points the OP mentioned–does "end" mean the road has to end, or can a freeway downgrade to another class of road at an "at-grade interchange" while qualifying for this thread? (Looking at a map might well answer this, of course. I just didn't feel like doing so!)

Either way, something similar to that section of US-29 (a very short freeway running only from Emmet Street to I-64) for purposes of this thread might be the interchange between VA-286 (the Fairfax County Parkway) and I-95 in Newington. VA-286 has a short freeway segment northwest of that point up to Rolling Road and the Franconia—Springfield Parkway; the interchange with I-95 is essentially a cloverleaf except that the ramp on the southeast side from northbound I-95 comes up to a traffic light because Loisdale Road is on the far side. VA-286 isn't a freeway east of this point, so I'm not entirely sure this is the sort of thing the OP had in mind.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: mrpablue on May 05, 2018, 05:26:58 PM
Quote from: webny99 on May 05, 2018, 10:47:05 AM
If a freeway ends at an at-grade, then it can't also end at a freeway - because the at-grade makes it not a freeway.
Does that not seem like a logical conclusion?  :hmmm:

(ETA: Future US 219 (freeway) and I-86 will be a diamond interchange, is this along the lines of what the OP is looking for?)

I see how this is misleading. Sorry. What I meant is more like "freeways that terminate at other freeways but don't have a freeway-to-freeway interchange"
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: vdeane on May 05, 2018, 06:30:29 PM
Does I-95/FL 202 still count?  It's a modified parclo, though Florida appears to have done a good job of ensuring traffic between the freeways would never encounter a signal.

US 15/PA 581 has become one.  I believe PA is ready to do the same to PA 283/I-283.

A-20/A-520

A-5/ON 417 will become this if the MTO uses their preferred tunnel alternative.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: bassoon1986 on May 05, 2018, 08:12:50 PM
Quote from: sparker on May 05, 2018, 03:40:00 PM
US 190 with I-35 in Temple, TX.  One of TXDOT's ubiquitous volleyballs (yes, I consider them at-grade intersections -- since signal-controlled movement governs transit from one facility to another).

Is this also like US 75/US 82 in Sherman, TX?


iPhone
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: sparker on May 05, 2018, 08:20:45 PM
Quote from: bassoon1986 on May 05, 2018, 08:12:50 PM
Quote from: sparker on May 05, 2018, 03:40:00 PM
US 190 with I-35 in Temple, TX.  One of TXDOT's ubiquitous volleyballs (yes, I consider them at-grade intersections -- since signal-controlled movement governs transit from one facility to another).

Is this also like US 75/US 82 in Sherman, TX?


iPhone

The configuration is similar, but both US 75 and US 82 are through movements in Sherman; US 190 needs to exit its freeway self onto the frontage roads in order to make the right-angle (left WB, right EB) turns needed for route continuation onto and off of southward I-35, which it uses south to Belton, where US 190 turns west with the nascent I-14. 
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: roadman65 on May 05, 2018, 08:58:13 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/22099286362/in/album-72157655014658023/
MO 171/ I-49 BL at I-49/ US 71 in Carthage, MO.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Savannah,+GA/@32.0045019,-81.2804901,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x88fb75fc78f20659:0x4e0c6751036020bc!8m2!3d32.0835407!4d-81.0998342
GA 204 at I-95 in Savanah, GA.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: Flint1979 on May 05, 2018, 11:32:52 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on May 05, 2018, 10:41:48 AM
Quote from: DandyDan on May 05, 2018, 05:40:32 AM
US 53 at I-90 at LaCrosse, WI

US 12 at I-90/94 - Lake Delton (Wisconsin Dells area), WI.
US 12/WI 29 at I-94 - Roberts, WI.

Mike
For the second one isn't that in Elk Mound instead of Roberts?
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: MarkF on May 06, 2018, 01:45:39 AM
CA 78 at I-5
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: Eth on May 06, 2018, 09:35:32 AM
Quote from: Thing 342 on May 05, 2018, 12:37:07 PM
Wade Ave. at I-440 in Raleigh.

What's the deal with this one? Based on satellite imagery (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8040872,-78.693938,702m/data=!3m1!1e3), it looks like this used to be a full cloverleaf, but they ripped out the NB-to-WB loop ramp in favor of a signalized left turn.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: roadman65 on May 06, 2018, 10:08:37 AM
What about US 22 & 30 at I-376.  Where US 22 & 30 are both freeway on and off the interstate there is a traffic signal that the WB US 22 & 30 motorists passes through when leaving I-376 west to take the independent freeway westward toward Ohio (and beyond for US 30).
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: mgk920 on May 06, 2018, 10:21:51 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on May 05, 2018, 11:32:52 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on May 05, 2018, 10:41:48 AM
Quote from: DandyDan on May 05, 2018, 05:40:32 AM
US 53 at I-90 at LaCrosse, WI

US 12 at I-90/94 - Lake Delton (Wisconsin Dells area), WI.
US 12/WI 29 at I-94 - Roberts, WI.

Mike
For the second one isn't that in Elk Mound instead of Roberts?

Yea, brainfart.    :-P

Mike
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: sbeaver44 on May 06, 2018, 10:26:25 AM
PA 576 at US 22 near Pittsburgh Airport
I-99/US 220/PA 26 at I-80 near State College, PA
US 220 at I-86/NY 17 in South Waverly, PA
PA 66 at US 22 in Delmont, PA
US 1 at I-476 near Media, PA




Nexus 6P

Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: roadman65 on May 06, 2018, 10:31:05 AM
Quote from: sbeaver44 on May 06, 2018, 10:26:25 AM
PA 576 at US 22 near Pittsburgh Airport
I-99/US 220/PA 26 at I-80 near State College, PA
US 220 at I-86/NY 17 in South Waverly, PA
PA 66 at US 22 in Delmont, PA
US 1 at I-476 near Media, PA




Nexus 6P


Do volleyball's count?  Considering that under I-476 US 1 is still free moving it really is a freeway there until after the interchange.

Though technically us 1 transforms from freeway to arterial at that point, there are no lights or at grades within the line of travel through it.  Plus I-476 was built after US 1, and it was by coincidence that the Blue Route happened to interchange where the US 1 at grade part transformed into the Media Bypass Freeway.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: pianocello on May 06, 2018, 10:56:49 AM
IA 100 and I-380 in Cedar Rapids, IA, but only if you choose to count volleyballs (I don't).
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: 1995hoo on May 06, 2018, 11:13:57 AM
Quote from: Eth on May 06, 2018, 09:35:32 AM
Quote from: Thing 342 on May 05, 2018, 12:37:07 PM
Wade Ave. at I-440 in Raleigh.

What's the deal with this one? Based on satellite imagery (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8040872,-78.693938,702m/data=!3m1!1e3), it looks like this used to be a full cloverleaf, but they ripped out the NB-to-WB loop ramp in favor of a signalized left turn.

It was a full cloverleaf. I used to use that interchange almost every day. I don't remember precisely when or why it was changed, other than it was after 1996, but I seem to recall it had something to do with widening the Beltline north of there. Maybe they didn't want the traffic exiting from the Inner Beltline* to westbound Wade Avenue crossing what was now to be a thru lane.

*In Raleigh they refer to the "Inner Beltline" (clockwise) and "Outer Beltline" (anti-clockwise) instead of the "Inner Loop" and "Outer Loop"; they instead use "Outer Loop" to refer to I-/NC-540, which elsewhere might have been referred to as the "Outer Beltline" because it's to be a second orbital when completed.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: Revive 755 on May 06, 2018, 12:03:21 PM
Missouri does this a few times:

Full freeways
* MO 152's western end at I-435
* MO 249's northern end at I-49
* MO 465's northern end at US 65

Freeway segments
* East end of the freeway segment of MO 210 at I-435
* South end of the freeway segment of MO 179 at US 54.  If the signal at Edgewood Drive ever gets replaced with an interchange, there would be another one for MO 179 at US 50
* North end of the freeway segment of MO 141 at MO 364
* North end of the freeway segment of MO 141 at US 40
* South end of the freeway segment of MO 79 at I-70


In Indiana there's the western end of the Sam Jones Expressway at I-465/I-74 since INDOT downgraded that interchange
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: Flint1979 on May 06, 2018, 01:09:10 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on May 06, 2018, 10:21:51 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on May 05, 2018, 11:32:52 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on May 05, 2018, 10:41:48 AM
Quote from: DandyDan on May 05, 2018, 05:40:32 AM
US 53 at I-90 at LaCrosse, WI

US 12 at I-90/94 - Lake Delton (Wisconsin Dells area), WI.
US 12/WI 29 at I-94 - Roberts, WI.

Mike
For the second one isn't that in Elk Mound instead of Roberts?

Yea, brainfart.    :-P

Mike
Ok that's what I thought because I was looking around Roberts because I've been there before and couldn't find it lol.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: briantroutman on May 06, 2018, 01:28:33 PM
Quote from: sbeaver44 on May 06, 2018, 10:26:25 AM
PA 576 at US 22 near Pittsburgh Airport
I-99/US 220/PA 26 at I-80 near State College, PA
US 220 at I-86/NY 17 in South Waverly, PA
PA 66 at US 22 in Delmont, PA
US 1 at I-476 near Media, PA

A few more PA examples:

US 11/15 at PA 581 near Camp Hill. As with the PA 66 example, it's another site of a former full cloverleaf that was subsequently modified to require left turns.

Along the same lines, I also thought of PA 61 at I-78 near Hamburg (a former full cloverleaf), but even though PA 61 is grade separated and access controlled for a mile through Hamburg, it would be a stretch to call it a freeway.

Now that the US 220 super two has been fully grade separated from Mill Hall to I-80, its diamond interchange with I-80 arguably qualifies. This interchange has always puzzled me, though: It seems clear that PennDOT intended to eventually extend the Susquehanna Beltway from its current end at PA 477 to I-80, yet they built a compact diamond at I-80 with no obvious path to upgrade to a full freeway-freeway interchange. In contrast, at the eastern end of the Susquehanna Beltway (I-180/PA 147), the PDH originally opened I-80's interchange with old PA 147 as a very wide diamond using the same grading and overpass bridge that would eventually be used for the eight-ramp cloverleaf. Then when PA 147 was upgraded to a freeway, the four inner loop ramps were constructed, the outer ramps' left turn lanes were severed, and the result was a full non-stop interchange.

And I don't think it's been mentioned yet, but once the US 219 freeway is completed into Maryland, wouldn't the at-grade roundabouts at the I-68 interchange qualify?
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: Brandon on May 06, 2018, 02:49:09 PM
East end of one part of the US-30 freeway in Ohio.  This particular section ends at a six ramp parclo at I-71 in Mansfield.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: Bickendan on May 06, 2018, 03:00:45 PM
Quote from: froggie on May 05, 2018, 09:17:07 AM
Quote from: BickendanUS 169 at US 14 (technicality)

Not with two traffic signals south of 14 before you even get to the interchange...

QuoteUS 14 at US 52/63

MnDOT classifies 14 as expressway, not freeway, despite the interchange at West Circle.

QuoteUS 63/MN 30 at I-90 (technicality)

Not a freeway and with multiple at-grades between 48th and I-90.

QuoteUS 10/61 at I-90/US 12 (technicality)

How?  There are multiple traffic signals between 494 and 94, including two fairly close to 94.

QuoteMN 101 at I-94

Southbound only.  And even then, there's a signal at Diamond Lake Rd before one gets to 94.

(Your other Minnesota examples, though, are legit.)


Another example not mentioned yet:  MS 7 at US 278/MS 6 in Oxford.

Which is why I marked these as technicalities.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: Stephane Dumas on May 06, 2018, 03:06:45 PM
Quote from: vdeane on May 05, 2018, 06:30:29 PM

A-20/A-520


There was some plans to upgrade that interchange but only the ramps going from Dorval airport to eastbound A-20 and westbound A-20 to Dorval Airport are made.
https://neath.wordpress.com/2009/07/30/dorval-circle-plan-revealed/
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: froggie on May 06, 2018, 08:09:52 PM
Quote from: BickendanWhich is why I marked these as technicalities.

I wouldn't even call them technicalities.  I thought the OP was pretty clear that he was looking for freeways that end at at-grade ramps at the intersecting freeway.  Most of the MN possibles fall short of that.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: hbelkins on May 06, 2018, 09:10:33 PM
The freeway portion of TN 111 has a standard diamond interchange with I-40 at Cookeville.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: vdeane on May 06, 2018, 09:19:58 PM
I-99 has a couple at-grades before I-80, so it technically doesn't count.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: roadman65 on May 06, 2018, 09:39:33 PM
US 69 near Kansas City in Kansas.  Between I-35 and I-70 its a freeway and on the I-35 end its a diamond with traffic lights.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: hbelkins on May 06, 2018, 10:08:12 PM
How about US 52 at I-90 in Minnesota. Maps show it as a freeway north of the interstate but it's not a full freeway-to-freeway interchange.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: webny99 on May 06, 2018, 10:15:23 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 06, 2018, 10:08:12 PM
How about US 52 at I-90 in Minnesota. Maps show it as a freeway north of the interstate but it's not a full freeway-to-freeway interchange.

Considering it is a full freeway until southbound US 52 traffic headed for I-90 encounters an at-grade, I think it counts. The Rochester MN area in general seems to be full of contenders (or almost-contenders).
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: mgk920 on May 06, 2018, 10:30:56 PM
Quote from: webny99 on May 06, 2018, 10:15:23 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 06, 2018, 10:08:12 PM
How about US 52 at I-90 in Minnesota. Maps show it as a freeway north of the interstate but it's not a full freeway-to-freeway interchange.

Considering it is a full freeway until southbound US 52 traffic headed for I-90 encounters an at-grade, I think it counts. The Rochester MN area in general seems to be full of contenders (or almost-contenders).

Someone else mentioned it upthread, too.

Mike
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: US 89 on May 06, 2018, 10:41:33 PM
Two more I just thought of: UT 7 at I-15, and NM 423 at I-25. IIRC, the Paseo del Norte and I-25 interchange was going to be a full freeway interchange, but NM ran out of money.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: bassoon1986 on May 06, 2018, 11:19:15 PM
Toll 49 at I-20 near Tyler, TX

Chisholm Trail Toll at US 67 in Cleburne, TX appears to be one, but I can't completely tell.


iPhone
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: wxfree on May 07, 2018, 04:07:06 PM
Quote from: bassoon1986 on May 06, 2018, 11:19:15 PM
Toll 49 at I-20 near Tyler, TX

Chisholm Trail Toll at US 67 in Cleburne, TX appears to be one, but I can't completely tell.


iPhone

The southern mile of Chisholm Trail Parkway is a freeway (for miles north of there it's a "two-lane freeway," which is something I don't believe in), that narrows into a two-lane road that ends at the US 67 freeway frontage road.  There's one at-grade intersection with a county road about 250 feet before the frontage road.  (I think CTP technically ends at that intersection and the rest of the way to the frontage road is the county road, which pre-dates the toll road, but is maintained by TxDOT because it's within the right-of-way of the freeway.)  Because it has two lanes and an intersection, I don't think it fits this category, but it's close.  Eventually, it will be expanded to a four-lane divided highway.  Whether the planned direct connectors to US 67 are built at the same time will determine whether it fits this category at all.

Since I don't believe in two-lane freeways, I won't disagree with the Toll 49 example but will say that it depends on your definition of "freeway."
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: bzakharin on May 07, 2018, 05:20:12 PM
NJ 15 ends at US 206 at grade. Both of them have freeway segments, but neither is a freeway at the terminus.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: Mr_Northside on May 07, 2018, 05:47:53 PM
Quote from: briantroutman on May 06, 2018, 01:28:33 PM
And I don't think it's been mentioned yet, but once the US 219 freeway is completed into Maryland, wouldn't the at-grade roundabouts at the I-68 interchange qualify?

I would think so.  And I'm not sure if it was already mentioned, but some miles west of there along I-68 @ Cheat Lake the WV-43 freeway (Toll-43 from PA) ends at a diamond @ I-68.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: mgk920 on May 07, 2018, 08:26:48 PM
Another two for Wisconsin, one currently under construction - US 18/151 (Verona Rd) at the Madison Beltline (US 12/14/18/151) freeway in Madison. The re-engineered diamond interchange there includes signals on Verona Rd for traffic to and from the US 18/151 Verona Rd freeway to the southwest.

:verymad:

Also, US 14 (Park St) at the Madison Beltline (US 12/14/18/151) - US 14 to the south is a full freeway.

Mike
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: PHLBOS on May 08, 2018, 01:52:24 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 06, 2018, 10:31:05 AM
Quote from: sbeaver44 on May 06, 2018, 10:26:25 AMUS 1 at I-476 near Media, PA
Do volleyball's count?  Considering that under I-476 US 1 is still free moving it really is a freeway there until after the interchange.

Though technically us 1 transforms from freeway to arterial at that point, there are no lights or at grades within the line of travel through it.  Plus I-476 was built after US 1, and it was by coincidence that the Blue Route happened to interchange where the US 1 at grade part transformed into the Media Bypass Freeway.
No to split hairs here but the freeway-arterial change for US 1 occurs just east/north of the I-476 interchange (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Springfield,+PA/@39.9370299,-75.3577177,441m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c6c2096d54f3f5:0xc541a0faed13a6c7!8m2!3d39.9306677!4d-75.3201878) at the Collins Dr./Marple Crossroads Shopping Center (signalized) intersection.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: cl94 on May 08, 2018, 02:14:51 PM
- SR 315 used to have an at-grade at I-270 on the north side of Columbus, OH. SB-WB traffic used to have to make a left onto the loop. This was remedied 15 or so years ago.
- Not too far from there, SR 161 had an at-grade on the northeast side at I-270 when that was being reconstructed ~10 years ago. WB-SB traffic had to make a left.

Ohio has several others (that haven't been mentioned) that come damn close, but end just short. See US 33 at I-70.

How about a FREEWAY ending at an EXPRESSWAY? Ohio has that, too. US 35 has a freeway segment that ends with at-grades at SR 32 (https://goo.gl/maps/RfbzVsVGsaE2).
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: Max Rockatansky on May 10, 2018, 12:08:33 AM
WA 303 at WA 3.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: ftballfan on May 10, 2018, 12:15:27 PM
BL I-49 (a freeway) ends at a diamond interchange with I-49 in Carthage, MO
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: TheStranger on May 10, 2018, 04:19:36 PM
Some California examples not previously mentioned:

Route 84 freeway in Fremont at I-880
Route 237 at I-880 to a degree (major movements from eastbound 237 to 880 north and southbound 880 to 237 west are all via ramps, but traffic from northbound 880 must use part of a parclo interchange to go onto the westbound 237 freeway)
Similar setup to 237/880 occurs at the southernmost portion of Route 1 (in Capistrano Beach) at I-5
Route 154 at US 101/Route 1 in Santa Barbara (though technically the freeway intersects Calle Real first before 101 - Calle Real is a frontage road used as part of the access from northbound 101)
Route 126 in Valencia at I-5, if the interchange at Commerce Center Drive makes the easternmost segment of the route a freeway. 

Route 103/47 at Route 47 & I-710 in Terminal Island (Route 47 exits off the Seaside Freeway on a diamond interchange and then heads north onto the Terminal Island Freeway, with Route 103's terminus occurring at the interchange)

Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: lepidopteran on May 10, 2018, 08:46:19 PM
In the "almost" category, there's VA-28 at I-66.

VA-28 has only one of its I-66 movements controlled by a traffic signal.  Another signal is there for a right turn off 66, which allows motorists to safely get over for a nearby at-grade left turn.  Of the other movements, two are actually missing since they are just as easily made on the nearby I-29 exit.

The reason for the "almost" qualifier is that VA-28 has two at-grade intersections just north of I-66; one is at Braddock Rd./Walney Rd., and the other is a T-intersection serving a park.  Other than that, VA-28 was, over the last 15 years or so, upgraded to full freeway all the way to its northern terminus at VA-7.  There used to be a (signalized?) RIRO at the historic Sullly Plantation, but that was worked into a new interchange serving the Udvar-Hazy Air and Space Museum.  What's more, a folded diamond interchange was built just south of VA-28's interchange with I-66, at US-29, giving 28 the through route. However, there's a signalized intersection just a few hundred feet south of there (the acceleration lane becomes a turn lane).

Will the at-grade with I-66 be eliminated with the HOT lanes project underway?  At least one of the alternatives showed it as such.  Not sure about the at-grades on 28 north of there, though.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: froggie on May 10, 2018, 09:08:46 PM
^ All of the at-grades at and north of 66 will be eliminated along 28 as part of the 66 HO/T lanes project.  The park access will be replaced by an access road along the west side of 28.  The park access road will connect to an extension of Stonecroft Blvd across 28 that will tie into Poplar Tree Rd.  Braddock Rd/Walney Rd will bridge over 28 with access to/from the south and 66.

Upon completion of construction, the 28 freeway will effectively begin/end at the Upperridge Dr/Old Centreville Rd intersection south of 29.
Title: Re: Freeways that end at at-grade interchanges with cross freeways
Post by: roadman65 on May 13, 2018, 12:47:43 AM
Quote from: froggie on May 10, 2018, 09:08:46 PM
^ All of the at-grades at and north of 66 will be eliminated along 28 as part of the 66 HO/T lanes project.  The park access will be replaced by an access road along the west side of 28.  The park access road will connect to an extension of Stonecroft Blvd across 28 that will tie into Poplar Tree Rd.  Braddock Rd/Walney Rd will bridge over 28 with access to/from the south and 66.

Upon completion of construction, the 28 freeway will effectively begin/end at the Upperridge Dr/Old Centreville Rd intersection south of 29.

You mean we are going to get I-366?  The Ethanman Highway with an 85 mph speed limit? :-D :-D :-D