http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280456520721&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
"THSES SIGNS CAN AND DO FOOL THE EXPERTS!!. I AM THE ONLY ONE IN THE WORLD TO MY KNOWLEDGE THAT MAKES THESE STYLE SIGNS AT ALL, MUCH LESS WITH THE DEGREE OF QUALITY AND REALISM SHOWN."
Obviously, he's not met Jake or seen his authentic replicas ;)
I'm not familiar with old sign specs, but every old US shield I've seen has the "US" legend above the number. This reproduction doesn't. The font of the word "California" doesn't look quite right either.
Well, the lack of the 'US" legend isnt necessarily a tip...several states did not use the "US" legend on their shields....North Carolina, Illinois, Kansas, Washington were some of the states that didnt always use the 'US'...
HOWEVER....
*leaving aside Robert Edgar's horselaughs every time he sees this guy's eBay ads...* there are several things wrong with this shield....wrong shape, wrong fonts, and for the Calaifornia, lack of issuing agency on hte bottom of the shields...
Jake could go on for hours and show you his replicas which are far more authentic in appearance
I really hate that most of the route sign listings on ebay are fake US 66 shields, and very little are actual authentic used shields that are worth bidding on. Just my opinion.
Quote from: PennDOTFan on January 26, 2010, 09:58:00 PM
I really hate that most of the route sign listings on ebay are fake US 66 shields, and very little are actual authentic used shields that are worth bidding on. Just my opinion.
I find it funny (in sort of a twisted way) that the seller claims they are authentic and will "fool the experts". I think someone on MTR wrote the guy once, and he laughed off any notion these were fake.
Quote from: US71 on January 26, 2010, 10:12:09 PM
Quote from: PennDOTFan on January 26, 2010, 09:58:00 PM
I really hate that most of the route sign listings on ebay are fake US 66 shields, and very little are actual authentic used shields that are worth bidding on. Just my opinion.
I find it funny (in sort of a twisted way) that the seller claims they are authentic and will "fool the experts". I think someone on MTR wrote the guy once, and he laughed off any notion these were fake.
Yea it is annoying, but it is funny, especially when the 66 shields don't look anything like the real thing.
MY authentic fake US 66 shield
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi166.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu102%2Fctsignguy%2Fillus66.jpg&hash=035d506894e3e77ec41d8b3a32e2968929a3c9bc)
Can you tell it from the real thing?
Yes: It's not beat up and weathered!
That aside, it looks authentic enough ;)
Newer generation design (non-square font), but it looks like any other old US shield I've seen. If it were beaten up and weathered, I'd probably mistake it for the real thing.
Quote from: ctsignguy on January 26, 2010, 11:09:22 PM
MY authentic fake US 66 shield
That's quite an oxymoron. :hmmm:
Quote from: mightyace on January 28, 2010, 06:30:42 PM
A better term would be...
[Historically] Accurate Replica
That's a mouthful. How about we write "this is a fake" on the back of each of them with a red felt tip pen ;)
Well, it is an 'authentic fake' in part because it was made by ILLDOT back when US 66 was decommissioned (hence the authentic), but was on slightly thinner than standard aluminum as opposed to the steel Illy used on their US cutouts (hence the fake)
Clear as mud?
Quote from: US71 on January 26, 2010, 11:19:35 AM
"THSES SIGNS CAN AND DO FOOL THE EXPERTS!!. I AM THE ONLY ONE IN THE WORLD TO MY KNOWLEDGE THAT MAKES THESE STYLE SIGNS AT ALL, MUCH LESS WITH THE DEGREE OF QUALITY AND REALISM SHOWN."
"thses" guy is an authentic moron. I've excreted higher quality materials than what he has for sale.
there is a very good reason why he can't get 15 bucks for the hideous products he attempts to unleash upon the masses:
http://cgi.ebay.com/C-1927-ARIZONA-ROAD-MARKER-SIGN-W-NATIVE-AMER-SWAZTIKA_W0QQitemZ280453148336QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item414c4f6eb0
yep, 14.99 and didn't sell... what a joker, scanning in the 1927 Rand McNally atlas and passing it off as an actual highway marker.
Quote from: ctsignguy on January 29, 2010, 12:57:45 AM
was on slightly thinner than standard aluminum as opposed to the steel Illy used on their US cutouts
Illy did use aluminum for their cutouts in the late 50s and early 60s (I believe they switched away from cutouts once and for all in '62 or so) - the difference between the real signs intended for field use, and the ones made in 1976 as a commemoration, is that the real signs have reflective sheeting, while the 1976 edition is all non-reflective.
You are quite right.....i forgot about that detail....my bad....
And another fake trying to pass itself off as legit:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Real-US-Route-66-Scorched-Road-Sign-from-New-Mexico_W0QQitemZ130365996532QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1e5a6b3df4
Quote from: US71 on February 10, 2010, 04:48:37 PM
And another fake trying to pass itself off as legit:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Real-US-Route-66-Scorched-Road-Sign-from-New-Mexico_W0QQitemZ130365996532QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1e5a6b3df4
Geeze, that's such an obvious fake. No US-66 sign ever had the word "Route" on it in the field.
Where do these folks come from trying to pass this stuff off as genuine?
Quote from: Brandon on February 10, 2010, 04:52:59 PM
No US-66 sign ever had the word "Route" on it in the field.
I have seen one. A Mojave County Highway Department issue from the early 1960s.
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/AZ/AZ19620661i1.jpg)
But that one is not printed cheaply on .04 aluminum with garish clown fonts. The eBay one is indeed hideously fake.
He's at it again:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280576347689&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
"EACH BUYER IS PLEASANTLY SURPRISED BY THE QUALITY, CONSTRUCTION, SIZE, WEIGHT AND REALISM OF THESE SIGN REPROS!!!."
"ONE BUYER TOOK HIS SIGN TO THE PRESTIGIOUS LEMAY MUSEUM IN TACOMA, WA (LOOK IT UP, IT IS THE LARGEST AUTOMOBILE/ TRANSPORTATION, ETC MUSEUM IN THE WORLD), TO HAVE IT LOOKED AT AND APPRAISED BY THEIR PROFESSIONAL RESTORATION STAFF. THEY ADVISED HIM THE SIGN WAS MOST CERTAINLY FROM THE 1930'S ERA. THERE WERE A LOT OF RED FACES WHEN HE TOLD THEM IT WAS ONLY A FEW WEEKS OLD!!!"
---
PT Barnum: "There's a sucker born every minute"
"THEY AR 24''X24'' AS PER THE ORIGINALS." 24x24 shields weren't introduced until 1948!
That looks sooo real! :pan:
That's so absurd- it's like a sign sales troll.
I mean, even if that sign is horribly fake, it still looks like it took a moderate amount of effort- if you're going to put any amount of time into something it seems like you should at least be able to get it sort of right. I feel like this guy knows his signs suck and gets off on selling bad ones.
I'm really trying to figure out who actually buys a sign like that- I'd assume that most people who 'pay $80 for a road sign are sign enthusiasts on some level, and it seems like they would at least be able to recognize a correct shield shape!
I like THIS one. I've never seen one like it , but it looks legit. I'll have to make a photoshop of it ;)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIG-south-dakota-US-16-ROAD-SIGN-embossed-shield-nice_W0QQitemZ140464068258QQcategoryZ14048QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m8QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DMW%26its%3DC%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D4900470085245501753
I'm sure one of the Forum denizens will get this one.
Quote from: corco on October 17, 2010, 09:53:27 PM
I'm really trying to figure out who actually buys a sign like that- I'd assume that most people who 'pay $80 for a road sign are sign enthusiasts on some level, and it seems like they would at least be able to recognize a correct shield shape!
...or the fact that US route shields never actually said "ROUTE" on them.
Quote from: US71 on October 18, 2010, 11:10:50 AM
I like THIS one. I've never seen one like it , but it looks legit. I'll have to make a photoshop of it ;)
it
is legit. Some sign collector, likely not anyone on this forum, will get it.
How about THIS loverly gem of....erm, something or other....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400164628734&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
Quote from: ctsignguy on October 19, 2010, 08:08:32 PM
How about THIS loverly gem of....erm, something or other....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400164628734&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
And it got a bid :pan:
Quote from: ctsignguy on October 19, 2010, 08:08:32 PM
How about THIS loverly gem of....erm, something or other....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400164628734&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
All I can say is: "WTF?!?!?!"
a bid? O_o!
*goes to look*
Oh fer cryin' out loud....
I'd pay $35 for it (Yeah, I know it has a bid for $50). But I'd know full well it's not a "legit" highway shield. It might be signage for some business for all we know.
Quote from: Adam Smith on October 20, 2010, 12:39:11 AM
I'd pay $35 for it (Yeah, I know it has a bid for $50). But I'd know full well it's not a "legit" highway shield. It might be signage for some business for all we know.
Or a Hollyweird prop....
Quote from: ctsignguy on October 19, 2010, 08:08:32 PM
How about THIS loverly gem of....erm, something or other....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400164628734&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
My best guess is a business or some kind of advertising. I found a Bistro Americana as well as an Americana Inn, but nothing that referred to "6700"
Quote from: ctsignguy on October 19, 2010, 08:08:32 PM
How about THIS loverly gem of....erm, something or other....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400164628734&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
Sold for $62
Here's one that again seems to be passing itself off as a genuine article:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Route-66-Directional-Sign-/290551652448?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a63a6060#ht_500wt_1159
Quote from: US71 on April 03, 2011, 02:18:19 PM
Here's one that again seems to be passing itself off as a genuine article:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Route-66-Directional-Sign-/290551652448?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a63a6060#ht_500wt_1159
The arrow is genuine.
*wonders what lurks beneath the tinplate fake.....
Quote from: ctsignguy on April 03, 2011, 03:13:40 PM
*wonders what lurks beneath the tinplate fake.....
or maybe you should have phrased it "wonders what is
barried beneath the tinplate fake" :-P
QuoteThis is the real deal,I live 1/4 mile off old Route 66 in New Mexico and found this sign half barried in dirt one day about 5 yrs ago.It is still on its original backing and you can see where it was attached to the sign post. A real piece of Ol' 66. This sign is not the Highway sign,this sign is a directional sign that pointed the way to U.S.66.It is a harder find because they were tossed away out of hand when the signs came down.This sign was found on the shoulder of Old 66.
After a number of complaints from people on the Route 66 e-list, the sign has been removed from e-bay.
Is it always the same person putting all of these on e-bay, or different ones?
Quote from: cjk374 on April 03, 2011, 11:19:16 PM
Is it always the same person putting all of these on e-bay, or different ones?
This was somebody new to e-bay, but there's another guy who pops up every couple months with artificially aged fake signs. He's been notified he's selling bogus goods, but never replies. He has been reported to e-bay, but they've never done anything.
I'm wondering about this one. I wonder if he has any pictures that don't look like they were taken by a third grader
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXTREMELY-RARE-ROUTE-66-ROAD-SIGN-ARIZONA-CIRCA-1940s-Pre-WWII-Wooden-sign-/220937839801?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3370ebe4b9
Quote from: RJ145 on January 27, 2012, 09:40:45 PM
I'm wondering about this one. I wonder if he has any pictures that don't look like they were taken by a third grader
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXTREMELY-RARE-ROUTE-66-ROAD-SIGN-ARIZONA-CIRCA-1940s-Pre-WWII-Wooden-sign-/220937839801?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3370ebe4b9
It
appears legit... or at least more legit that some of the other stuff out there.
Quote from: RJ145 on January 27, 2012, 09:40:45 PM
I'm wondering about this one. I wonder if he has any pictures that don't look like they were taken by a third grader
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXTREMELY-RARE-ROUTE-66-ROAD-SIGN-ARIZONA-CIRCA-1940s-Pre-WWII-Wooden-sign-/220937839801?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3370ebe4b9
Yeah I think it's legit. I also think the guy only has a cell phone, no actual camera, and it doesn't possess flash.
I think it is legit too, but it isnt as old as he thinks it is....
Quote from: Upside down frog in a triangle on January 28, 2012, 06:28:58 AM
Yeah I think it's legit. I also think the guy only has a cell phone, no actual camera, and it doesn't possess flash.
For listing something for $6600, one would hope that the seller would at least borrow a camera that would produce better pictures. Strange. At least the sign does appear a lot more legit than some of the other entries in the thread.
Quote from: PurdueBill on January 28, 2012, 11:00:34 AM
Quote from: Upside down frog in a triangle on January 28, 2012, 06:28:58 AM
Yeah I think it's legit. I also think the guy only has a cell phone, no actual camera, and it doesn't possess flash.
For listing something for $6600, one would hope that the seller would at least borrow a camera that would produce better pictures. Strange. At least the sign does appear a lot more legit than some of the other entries in the thread.
If he listed it starting at $660 he may actually get a bite.