In this map of Mountain View, CA (https://goo.gl/maps/1eWwGQEQXv72), Mercy Street takes a dogleg of about 120 feet on Anza Street. It's signed like a pair of 3-way intersections, but it's technically an overlap.
The question: are there any longer overlaps of named roads (no route numbers), especially those that might be signed with both road names? Something like (fictional example) Aylesbury Pike and Whateley Road snaking through a mile of Massachusetts hills together?
Shreveport, LA has a pretty big jaunt where Ockley Dr is disconnected. My screenshot below shows where in the upper left Ockely comes to Gilbert Dr, then further south, it continues east of Monrovia over the bridge. Gilbert Dr is only signed as Gilbert, not both. On Ockley westbound, after crossing Fern, there are instructions to turn right ahead to continue on Ockley.
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Greensboro, NC sees Elm St and Eugene St merge together to become Elm-Eugene St (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0534158,-79.7937567,17.05z), with both names remaining in use until the road ends.
the Bay Area example that comes to mind easily is the 3-block stretch of Martin Luther King Jr. Way that hops on Adeline Street in Berkeley:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Adeline+St+%26+Martin+Luther+King+Jr+Way,+Berkeley,+CA+94703/@37.8507706,-122.2725922,17z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x80857e7eac59a3d5:0x5c03ddb2fcf96c19!8m2!3d37.8512069!4d-122.2706381
Edina, MN has a comparatively lengthy Blake Road/Interlachen Blvd overlap, with street blades indicating both roads.
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9139136,-93.3835089,3a,75y,198.4h,88.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sviGqOrs-oNlcGayEvxATiw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
The first one of these I ever saw was Briggs St in Syracuse (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0769526,-76.1395944,18z) in 1999. My mom was going to look at a car, and we couldn't find the house number on the western half of the street. After pulling onto Wadsworth St, we saw a sign for the eastern half of the street. At the time, the western half of the street wasn't one way like it is now.
An example in San Francisco:
A portion of Diamond Heights Boulevard connects the two segments of Diamond Street (which I think predated Diamond Heights Boulevard being constructed in the 50s) -
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Diamond+Heights+Blvd+%26+Addison+St,+San+Francisco,+CA+94131/@37.7401485,-122.4373935,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x808f7e7025be7c89:0xefe0e33d123283bd!8m2!3d37.7401455!4d-122.4358392
Osborne Road and Sand Creek Road in Albany, NY. Has some fun signage, too, to follow Osborne.
Don't know how I forgot the overlap of Stone Road and Tobey Road (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0774037,-77.5304663,289m/data=!3m1!1e3) in Pittsford, NY.
This one is unique in that Stone ends at Tobey... and then Tobey continues as Stone.
In northeast Mason County, MI, Campbell Road hops on Free Soil Road for about 2/3 mile: https://www.google.com/maps/@44.1057957,-86.1052867,15.9z.
Piscataway, NJ has both Washington Avenue and Stelton Road share pavement across the former Reading Rail Line.
Market Street and Raymond Blvd do it in Ironbound, Newark, New Jersey.
The best example that I can think of is Jefferson and Sepulveda in Culver City, CA. Two major streets and the joining is more than a mere dogleg. The combined section is only referred to as Sepulveda.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Culver+City,+CA/@33.9886115,-118.3978401,16z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c2ba1edb77739d:0x3185e9d14beb59fe!8m2!3d34.0211224!4d-118.3964665
We have streets and roads like that here in Michigan. During the overlap it's not considered the cross street though like in your example you wouldn't have it be Anza/Mercy. Mercy just takes a jog is all.
This would be a Michigan example
Steel and Grobowski Roads in Saginaw County.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.3184554,-84.2905579,17.15z
Quote from: webny99 on July 23, 2018, 09:20:56 AM
Don't know how I forgot the overlap of Stone Road and Tobey Road (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0774037,-77.5304663,289m/data=!3m1!1e3) in Pittsford, NY.
This one is unique in that Stone ends at Tobey... and then Tobey continues as Stone.
I've seen streets and roads like this in Michigan too.
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County Line runs down center line
Hook Creek Blvd Rosedale, Queens County & Ocean Ave Valley Stream, Nassau County
Former:
County Line runs down center line
Jamaica Avenue Floral Park, Queens County & Jericho Turnpike Floral Park, Nassau County
A few years back New York City renamed Jamaica Avenue East of Cross Island Parkway and extended Jericho Turnpike West of 256th Street to Cross Island Parkway.
Kings Highway in Minneapolis. Its entire length is dual-signed with more mundane streets.
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9203223,-93.2934868,247m/data=!3m1!1e3
Kings Highway is divided, and follows Dupont south from S 36th St to S 46th St, then follows 46th west from Dupont to the Harriet Parkway. Throughout its entire length, the streets are signed with both designations.
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9195477,-93.2935269,3a,75y,221.33h,72.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBpJvO2XxFaSTQm7FRBa6Ww!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Fayetteville Street and Cornwallis Road in Durham, NC for a little under a mile.
https://goo.gl/maps/pkv8h48vCbU2 (https://goo.gl/maps/pkv8h48vCbU2)
Knoxville has Westland Drive doglegging onto Ebenezer Road.
Mabry Hood Road exists as a tiny section near the I-40/I-140 interchange, and as a much longer one north of I-40. The two sections used to be connected but were separated when I-140 was built. There was a big NIMBY uproar about that section of the highway...a historic plantation house had to be torn down to make room for it.
There's one a block and a half north of my office; the street I'm located on, Little Orchard Street, jogs east (heading northbound) on San Jose Ave. for a block, then resumes north parallel to the southern section. However, curiously, the northern section continues south of San Jose Ave. for about 50 yards so as to provide access for a couple of storage yards and roll-up doors in the adjoining industrial buildings. From the design and age of the area, it looks as if San Jose Ave. separates newer development to the south from the older mixed (commercial & housing) type to the north; the southern extension of Little Orchard (where my office is) is considerably wider (although retaining a 2-lane format, but with a center turning lane) -- and, unfortunately, is used for drag racing in off-hours.
Quote from: mrsman on September 07, 2018, 11:48:58 AM
The best example that I can think of is Jefferson and Sepulveda in Culver City, CA. Two major streets and the joining is more than a mere dogleg. The combined section is only referred to as Sepulveda.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Culver+City,+CA/@33.9886115,-118.3978401,16z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c2ba1edb77739d:0x3185e9d14beb59fe!8m2!3d34.0211224!4d-118.3964665
The northern intersection of Jefferson & Sepulveda is the location of one of the best kosher delis in the L.A. area: Roll & Rye, in a strip mall on the east side of the junction itself. Worth a visit for their lean corned beef alone!
Queen Anne Boulevard in Seattle basically overlays on top of normally named/numbered streets, but is more of a scenic designation than a commonly used name.
DE-8 near Downtown Dover, where it is simultaneously Kings Highway East and East Division Street (approximately between Pennsylvania Avenue and Park Drive): https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1626357,-75.5218021,17.5z
A few indicators that it is a multiplexed street name:
- The two (opposing) bus stops on this multiplex refer to Division Street
- Street signs west of the St. Jones River (the body of water pictured to the east) refer to Kings Highway East
- The street sign on the west side of the intersection between DE-8 and Park Drive/Kings Highway NE refers to DE-8 as East Division Street, as does the street sign on the east side of the intersection
Also, just searched on the USPS website, and it looks like 42 Kings Highway East and 42 East Division Street are both valid addresses and refer to the same place (Google shows the school on Kings Highway on the north side of the street, but the Division Street address on the south side of the street, but they're both part of the same school - the north side I believe is the school itself, the south side is its administration building).
Parker Street and Woodbridge Street overlap for a little more than a block in Manchester, Conn..
Quote from: Flint1979 on September 07, 2018, 12:10:32 PM
During the overlap it's not considered the cross street
This is what I'm thinking for every single example out there. For numbered state highways, there are official logs to document what
is and what
isn't a particular route. Unless anyone can provide such a log for a named street or road with an overlap that officially designates the same stretch of pavement as two different street names, then I'm just going to assume all street blades signing the cross-street along the thoroughfare are mere wayfinders–similar to how a [43] sign without a [TO] banner doesn't actually make a road "Hwy 43".
Quote from: kphoger on November 01, 2018, 11:45:35 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on September 07, 2018, 12:10:32 PM
During the overlap it's not considered the cross street
This is what I'm thinking for every single example out there. For numbered state highways, there are official logs to document what is and what isn't a particular route. Unless anyone can provide such a log for a named street or road with an overlap that officially designates the same stretch of pavement as two different street names, then I'm just going to assume all street blades signing the cross-street along the thoroughfare are mere wayfinders–similar to how a [43] sign without a [TO] banner doesn't actually make a road "Hwy 43".
Looking at my example in Dover, DE-8 is officially designated as Kings Highway along the "overlap" (based on DelDOT's AADT documentation and FirstMap's Road Inventory). I also checked the Kent County Levy Court GIS map on all the properties there and Kent County lists their addresses as Kings Highway. The only official source referring to it as Division Street is the DelDOT/DART bus stop located there.
What's weird about it though is that Division Street/DE-8, which is the "through route" there takes the cross street's (Kings Highway) name, which is why it baffles me so much.
How about Avenue of the Americas / 6th Ave in NYC? Or Avenue of the Arts / Broad Street in Philadelphia?
Quote from: bzakharin on November 01, 2018, 04:19:48 PM
How about Avenue of the Americas / 6th Ave in NYC? Or Avenue of the Arts / Broad Street in Philadelphia?
Those Streets are Dual Named and do not count
There are a bunch of examples of this in NYC, particularly around 1) the west village, 2) midtown at broadway's sharp angled intersections with avenues, and 3) where the elevation of NY is uneven. No streets are double named but there are some examples of them effectively merging for stretches.
Heck before the closure to road traffic Times Square was sort of an example of this although divided
Quote from: mapman1071 on November 01, 2018, 10:37:55 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on November 01, 2018, 04:19:48 PM
How about Avenue of the Americas / 6th Ave in NYC? Or Avenue of the Arts / Broad Street in Philadelphia?
Those Streets are Dual Named and do not count
Cermak Rd/22nd St in Chicago would also be in the Dual Named club
I did think of something that I think is dual named over Thanksgiving, when I was visiting my father in Portland ME: https://goo.gl/maps/sG8SBBayvck
Both Capisic Street and Frost Street are signed at this intersection, heading in the same direction.
Quote from: ipeters61 on January 01, 2019, 10:42:21 AM
I did think of something that I think is dual named over Thanksgiving, when I was visiting my father in Portland ME: https://goo.gl/maps/sG8SBBayvck
Both Capisic Street and Frost Street are signed at this intersection, heading in the same direction.
Interestingly, according to Google Maps, houses on the north side of the street have Capisic Street addresses, and those on the south side have Frost Street addresses.
Quote from: Roadsguy on January 01, 2019, 12:55:53 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on January 01, 2019, 10:42:21 AM
I did think of something that I think is dual named over Thanksgiving, when I was visiting my father in Portland ME: https://goo.gl/maps/sG8SBBayvck
Both Capisic Street and Frost Street are signed at this intersection, heading in the same direction.
Interestingly, according to Google Maps, houses on the north side of the street have Capisic Street addresses, and those on the south side have Frost Street addresses.
Then, in my opinion, this really does qualify as two different streets sharing the same pavement.
Quote from: kphoger on January 01, 2019, 04:08:22 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on January 01, 2019, 12:55:53 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on January 01, 2019, 10:42:21 AM
I did think of something that I think is dual named over Thanksgiving, when I was visiting my father in Portland ME: https://goo.gl/maps/sG8SBBayvck
Both Capisic Street and Frost Street are signed at this intersection, heading in the same direction.
Interestingly, according to Google Maps, houses on the north side of the street have Capisic Street addresses, and those on the south side have Frost Street addresses.
Then, in my opinion, this really does qualify as two different streets sharing the same pavement.
I just tried testing this on the USPS "ZIP Code Lookup" tool: https://tools.usps.com/zip-code-lookup.htm?byaddress
Using 19 Capisic Street and 20 Frost Street, it appears that the odd numbered houses are on Capisic Street and the even numbered houses are on Frost Street. USPS will give a ZIP+4 code for addresses following that specification, testing "19 Frost Street" and "20 Capisic Street" gives a 04102 ZIP code, but no +4. So I think USPS
officially recognizes the specification that Google Maps is following.
Maybe westbound is Capisic Street and eastbound is Frost Street?
Found one in the Sacramento area I have driven on before, but hadn't been on in ages:
the section of Rio Linda Boulevard that links the southern portion of Marysville Boulevard in Robla with the southern edge of Rio Linda:
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/38.6734436,-121.4562016/38.6620924,-121.4477136/@38.6689205,-121.4563364,1746m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m2!4m1!3e0
The overlap is nearly a mile long.
Quote from: TheStranger on January 15, 2020, 01:41:28 PM
Found one in the Sacramento area I have driven on before, but hadn't been on in ages:
the section of Rio Linda Boulevard that links the southern portion of Marysville Boulevard in Robla with the southern edge of Rio Linda:
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/38.6734436,-121.4562016/38.6620924,-121.4477136/@38.6689205,-121.4563364,1746m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m2!4m1!3e0
The overlap is nearly a mile long.
Based on what evidence are you asserting that the road carries both names? All the signs I'm seeing on GSV only show it being Rio Linda Blvd.
Quote from: kphoger on January 15, 2020, 02:06:52 PM
Quote from: TheStranger on January 15, 2020, 01:41:28 PM
Found one in the Sacramento area I have driven on before, but hadn't been on in ages:
the section of Rio Linda Boulevard that links the southern portion of Marysville Boulevard in Robla with the southern edge of Rio Linda:
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/38.6734436,-121.4562016/38.6620924,-121.4477136/@38.6689205,-121.4563364,1746m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m2!4m1!3e0
The overlap is nearly a mile long.
Based on what evidence are you asserting that the road carries both names? All the signs I'm seeing on GSV only show it being Rio Linda Blvd.
I was just following all the other examples of a thread (street stops for a few blocks then restarts on the other end with same name, same trajectory, etc). Based on your earlier post I guess none of these examples count at all.
From 1947-1966 (via HistoricAerials shots) Marysville Boulevard more directly continued into the northwest trajectory that crosses Dry Creek; I'm not sure if the road joining the two was Marysville Boulevard or the current name Rio Linda Boulevard in that time period.
Quote from: webny99 on July 23, 2018, 09:20:56 AM
Don't know how I forgot the overlap of Stone Road and Tobey Road (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0774037,-77.5304663,289m/data=!3m1!1e3) in Pittsford, NY.
This one is unique in that Stone ends at Tobey... and then Tobey continues as Stone.
That happens all the time
Quote from: roadman65 on July 25, 2018, 12:13:52 AM
Piscataway, NJ has both Washington Avenue and Stelton Road share pavement across the former Reading Rail Line.
Market Street and Raymond Blvd do it in Ironbound, Newark, New Jersey.
Another NJ example: Clinton Pl and Nye Ave are multiplexed on an overpass over I-78. What's interested about that one is that the little green label on the overpass used to say Clinton Pl, but now says Nye Ave (which makes more sense, since Nye Ave is the more major thoroughfare).