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National Boards => General Highway Talk => Traffic Control => Topic started by: mapman1071 on July 22, 2018, 12:24:46 AM

Poll
Question: Who makes better Sheilds and BGS?
Option 1: State/Province votes: 11
Option 2: County/Parrish/Region votes: 1
Option 3: City votes: 0
Title: Who makes better Sheilds and BGS
Post by: mapman1071 on July 22, 2018, 12:24:46 AM
Who makes better Sheilds and BGS? I have Seen the worst from City Transportation Agencies.
Title: Re: Who makes better Sheilds and BGS
Post by: cjk374 on July 22, 2018, 10:15:02 AM
Louisiana was the only agency to make shields & BGSs until I discovered a contractor erecting their signs at the new roundabout near Homer. The contractor is Traffic Solutions out of NOLA. I will take pictures of their handy work & show them to y'all soon. Get your barf bags ready.
Title: Re: Who makes better Sheilds and BGS
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 22, 2018, 11:55:46 AM
Out in California the local agencies are far behind what Caltrans typically produces.  The local shields here in Fresno are awful and display hideous font in addition to substandard vinyl.
Title: Re: Who makes better Sheilds and BGS
Post by: freebrickproductions on July 22, 2018, 02:37:09 PM
State, usually. Occasionally you get a city or town who's competent in what they're doing, and the same could be said for counties, but from my observations here in the SE, they're much less common than one would think.
Title: Re: Who makes better Sheilds and BGS
Post by: vdeane on July 22, 2018, 07:55:26 PM
In general, states, though I'm curious if this holds true in Oklahoma.  If it does, the county/local signage would probably be downright horrific.
Title: Re: Who makes better Sheilds and BGS
Post by: jakeroot on July 22, 2018, 08:17:23 PM
Well, since Seattle still installs state-named interstate shields, I guess they get my shield vote. Though the shields are always on little green signs, so it's not particularly interesting.

In Washington, the best signed roads are state routes, so I guess the state does the best signs. Lots of guide signs all over the place, including at regular at-grade intersections. For a while, WSDOT was using bubble shields, which bothered me. But they've since moved on from that.

Counties and cities, generally, are on-par with one another. I prefer city-installed street blades, as they are often larger and, in quite a few cities, back-lit. BGS's are not common in most cities, but the state still does it better. Other than that, most things are the same from state, to county, to city.
Title: Re: Who makes better Sheilds and BGS
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on July 22, 2018, 10:34:45 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 22, 2018, 07:55:26 PM
In general, states, though I'm curious if this holds true in Oklahoma.  If it does, the county/local signage would probably be downright horrific.
What about OkDOT signing their exit with different spacing? Scott should have a photo. IIRC, the exit was 164 or something like that.
Title: Re: Who makes better Sheilds and BGS
Post by: Scott5114 on July 23, 2018, 03:38:05 AM
Quote from: vdeane on July 22, 2018, 07:55:26 PM
In general, states, though I'm curious if this holds true in Oklahoma.  If it does, the county/local signage would probably be downright horrific.

It varies from city to city. Oklahoma City is about as slapdash as ODOT is. Norman actually removed a mastarm sign and reinstalled the old one for a bit because the new sign's text was off-center by a few inches and they wanted to redo it.

Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on July 22, 2018, 10:34:45 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 22, 2018, 07:55:26 PM
In general, states, though I'm curious if this holds true in Oklahoma.  If it does, the county/local signage would probably be downright horrific.
What about OkDOT signing their exit with different spacing? Scott should have a photo. IIRC, the exit was 164 or something like that.

This one? The spacing isn't the problem, it's the fact they took Series B and stretched it to C width (and then put the X on upside down).

Quote from: Scott5114 on April 05, 2018, 10:26:07 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on April 05, 2018, 12:27:28 PM
For example, we no longer have a ban on using Series B for primary destination legend on freeway guide signs.  Most practitioners won't do it because they understand intuitively that Series B has far worse unit legibility than Series E Modified or even Series D, but even so the MUTCD technically allows Series B on freeway signs.  And while that is a pretty obvious no-no...

As you might have seen if you wander into the Signs With Design Errors thread, OkDOT appears to roll with more of a "hold my beer" approach to guide signing.
(https://i.imgur.com/5DgirqM.jpg)
Title: Re: Who makes better Sheilds and BGS
Post by: SSOWorld on July 23, 2018, 04:11:21 AM
Quote from: vdeane on July 22, 2018, 07:55:26 PM
In general, states, though I'm curious if this holds true in Oklahoma.  If it does, the county/local signage would probably be downright horrific.
No idea what agency made the CraIG COunTY sign and its opposing MaYES COunTY sign on US 69 (Both have been replaced)
Title: Re: Who makes better Sheilds and BGS
Post by: Scott5114 on July 23, 2018, 07:04:05 AM
Quote from: SSOWorld on July 23, 2018, 04:11:21 AM
Quote from: vdeane on July 22, 2018, 07:55:26 PM
In general, states, though I'm curious if this holds true in Oklahoma.  If it does, the county/local signage would probably be downright horrific.
No idea what agency made the CraIG COunTY sign and its opposing MaYES COunTY sign on US 69 (Both have been replaced)

It could have only been OkDOT.