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Title: Entering a city
Post by: roadman65 on July 25, 2018, 12:03:36 AM
Most places use either entering X or X City or Town Limit or even City or Town Line like CT, but this one in Missouri is odd.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/29667655998/in/dateposted-public/

Any others that sign a town or city limit strangely?
Title: Re: Entering a city
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 25, 2018, 12:07:40 AM
I thought Bremerton, WA had a pretty unique way of letting you know that you entered the city:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/972/28135947708_ddaa502f27_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JSh61G)0 (https://flic.kr/p/JSh61G) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Entering a city
Post by: Hurricane Rex on July 25, 2018, 12:15:42 AM
Wilkomen (whatever to is in that language) Leavenworth, WA. Don't have a picture on file (and doing this on my phone so I don't want to search the web).

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Title: Re: Entering a city
Post by: Scott5114 on July 25, 2018, 12:56:56 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 25, 2018, 12:03:36 AM
Most places use either entering X or X City or Town Limit or even City or Town Line like CT, but this one in Missouri is odd.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/29667655998/in/dateposted-public/

That's MoDOT standard. Here's the example layout from their Engineering Policy Guide:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fepg.modot.org%2Ffiles%2Fthumb%2F4%2F4b%2FI4-2.jpg%2F678px-I4-2.jpg.png&hash=7934257dd1b9abec9038f0b95a0649682413fe09)

I don't know of any other state that "flips" the layout like this.
Title: Re: Entering a city
Post by: US 89 on July 25, 2018, 01:32:44 AM
Utah does the bare minimum. No population, no elevation, not even a "city limit" . Just the name.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/833/43067277191_62b3bae0d1_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28BH44V)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1769/28201533517_1ba8679504_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JY5eov)

Even this is inconsistent. You won't see too many of these in urban areas, for example. And don't expect to see anything on the interstates.
Title: Re: Entering a city
Post by: plain on July 25, 2018, 02:40:11 AM
Virginia normally uses "Whatever CITY LIMITS".

But sometimes you'll come across these instead, as if you're entering one county and leaving another, which also makes sense as no Virginia city is part of any county (independent cities).

This is on VA 150 NB approaching Forest Hill Ave. Image from GSV

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180725/065c7bca6f5f5f5fc8375ed0aed71f94.jpg)

SM-S820L

Title: Re: Entering a city
Post by: Brandon on July 25, 2018, 07:14:07 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 25, 2018, 12:03:36 AM
Most places use either entering X or X City or Town Limit or even City or Town Line like CT, but this one in Missouri is odd.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/29667655998/in/dateposted-public/

Any others that sign a town or city limit strangely?

That (as mentioned) is MoDOT standard.  IDOT typically signs them on all but freeways and for Chicago.

Municipality Name
Population

https://goo.gl/maps/seVtVZQ5n2A2
Title: Re: Entering a city
Post by: Big John on July 25, 2018, 03:23:31 PM
And IDOT rounds off the population, while states like Wisconsin gives the exact number.
Title: Re: Entering a city
Post by: myosh_tino on July 25, 2018, 03:51:22 PM
In Calfornia these type of signs read...

San Jose
CITY LIMIT

... with population and elevation located at the bottom of the sign.
Title: Re: Entering a city
Post by: Takumi on July 25, 2018, 04:15:06 PM
Quote from: plain on July 25, 2018, 02:40:11 AM
Virginia normally uses "Whatever CITY LIMITS".

But sometimes you'll come across these instead, as if you're entering one county and leaving another, which also makes sense as no Virginia city is part of any county (independent cities).
Richmond (specifically) also has those obelisks on several roads at the city limits.
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d1/01/9c/d1019cc72cb8ef53adc51b758d7b4d78---things-richmond-virginia.jpg)
Title: Re: Entering a city
Post by: plain on July 25, 2018, 04:39:24 PM
Quote from: Takumi on July 25, 2018, 04:15:06 PM
Quote from: plain on July 25, 2018, 02:40:11 AM
Virginia normally uses "Whatever CITY LIMITS".

But sometimes you'll come across these instead, as if you're entering one county and leaving another, which also makes sense as no Virginia city is part of any county (independent cities).
Richmond (specifically) also has those obelisks on several roads at the city limits.
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d1/01/9c/d1019cc72cb8ef53adc51b758d7b4d78---things-richmond-virginia.jpg)

Yep. You can chopt that up as a nod to the city's architecture.
Title: Re: Entering a city
Post by: jakeroot on July 25, 2018, 04:44:48 PM
Quote from: Hurricane Rex on July 25, 2018, 12:15:42 AM
Wilkomen (whatever to is in that language) Leavenworth, WA. Don't have a picture on file (and doing this on my phone so I don't want to search the web).

*Willkommen. It's German because the town is based on a Bavarian village.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-4mlPJ7s_bAk%2FTtRwqyO3kjI%2FAAAAAAAAAhw%2FtWokQoMGUzc%2Fs1600%2FPC270015%2B425x319.jpg&hash=73706b51f5384b306a7790e516c2a96bfbe4d37e)
Title: Re: Entering a city
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on July 25, 2018, 05:01:51 PM
Minnesota practice on state routes is just:

City Name
Population

Unincorporated places will omit the population.

Some city streets entering Minneapolis have a unique, small blue city limits sign.


https://goo.gl/maps/xPnXtxZaP1r (https://goo.gl/maps/xPnXtxZaP1r)
Title: Re: Entering a city
Post by: bzakharin on July 25, 2018, 05:03:02 PM
NJDOT uses "Entering [municipality type] of [municipality name]" on state maintained roads. Like this:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.872311,-75.0229596,3a,37.5y,273.56h,92.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxyVJEeYrRpKjsZoIe_EcMA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1

Some municipalities provide their own signs either in addition to or instead of the NJDOT ones. County names in NJ are rarely signed and if they are, it's a county-provided custom sign. One exception is the Garden State Parkway, which signs county lines in blue pentagons. It doesn't sign municipality boundaries. Here is an example:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6069838,-74.3132034,3a,15y,42.9h,88t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sYSYHzedNpPfcoiTZR52_cw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DYSYHzedNpPfcoiTZR52_cw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D108.38994%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1

One exception is this sign. I have no idea who installed it and who the intended audience is:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2953417,-74.7521877,3a,75y,106.69h,84.05t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sfoMdPATxN3Y6IzUR4-2jag!2e0!5s20151001T000000!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
Title: Re: Entering a city
Post by: roadman65 on July 25, 2018, 07:59:26 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on July 25, 2018, 05:03:02 PM
NJDOT uses "Entering [municipality type] of [municipality name]" on state maintained roads. Like this:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.872311,-75.0229596,3a,37.5y,273.56h,92.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxyVJEeYrRpKjsZoIe_EcMA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1

Some municipalities provide their own signs either in addition to or instead of the NJDOT ones. County names in NJ are rarely signed and if they are, it's a county-provided custom sign. One exception is the Garden State Parkway, which signs county lines in blue pentagons. It doesn't sign municipality boundaries. Here is an example:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6069838,-74.3132034,3a,15y,42.9h,88t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sYSYHzedNpPfcoiTZR52_cw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DYSYHzedNpPfcoiTZR52_cw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D108.38994%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1

One exception is this sign. I have no idea who installed it and who the intended audience is:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2953417,-74.7521877,3a,75y,106.69h,84.05t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sfoMdPATxN3Y6IzUR4-2jag!2e0!5s20151001T000000!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
Going NB the Middlesex County Line sign does include a green placecard for Old Bridge Twp.   That is the only place a municipal place is at all mentioned.
Title: Re: Entering a city
Post by: Bruce on July 25, 2018, 11:01:50 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 25, 2018, 04:44:48 PM
Quote from: Hurricane Rex on July 25, 2018, 12:15:42 AM
Wilkomen (whatever to is in that language) Leavenworth, WA. Don't have a picture on file (and doing this on my phone so I don't want to search the web).

*Willkommen. It's German because the town is based on a Bavarian village.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-4mlPJ7s_bAk%2FTtRwqyO3kjI%2FAAAAAAAAAhw%2FtWokQoMGUzc%2Fs1600%2FPC270015%2B425x319.jpg&hash=73706b51f5384b306a7790e516c2a96bfbe4d37e)

Note that it is all fake, since Leavenworth had no real German connection until a couple of businessmen decided to turn it into a themed town.

Stanwood has a pretty nice sign that references its authentic Scandinavian heritage:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Welcome_sign_in_Stanwood%2C_WA_%2823349070612%29.jpg/1024px-Welcome_sign_in_Stanwood%2C_WA_%2823349070612%29.jpg)
Title: Re: Entering a city
Post by: jakeroot on July 25, 2018, 11:23:01 PM
Quote from: Bruce on July 25, 2018, 11:01:50 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 25, 2018, 04:44:48 PM
Quote from: Hurricane Rex on July 25, 2018, 12:15:42 AM
Wilkomen (whatever to is in that language) Leavenworth, WA. Don't have a picture on file (and doing this on my phone so I don't want to search the web).

*Willkommen. It's German because the town is based on a Bavarian village.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4mlPJ7s_bAk/TtRwqyO3kjI/AAAAAAAAAhw/tWokQoMGUzc/s1600/PC270015+425x319.jpg

Note that it is all fake, since Leavenworth had no real German connection until a couple of businessmen decided to turn it into a themed town.

Well, it's the best you can hope for. There are no authentic German (or Scandinavian) villages in the US because...well we aren't one of those countries. The US has its own distinct history, and the best we can do is replicate that which we see abroad.

All told, Leavenworth does a pretty damn good job replicating a Bavarian village. And judging by all the crowds they get, it must be working.
Title: Re: Entering a city
Post by: Flint1979 on July 26, 2018, 01:45:28 AM
This is how Michigan's are.

      Detroit
    CITY LIMIT

      Wayne
      County

           An
Automation Alley
        County

or like it looks here

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4477212,-83.0950127,3a,15y,196.69h,93.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5RfP6twkcdnNEQOkD_t2Pg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Entering a city
Post by: Flint1979 on July 26, 2018, 01:46:47 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 25, 2018, 04:44:48 PM
Quote from: Hurricane Rex on July 25, 2018, 12:15:42 AM
Wilkomen (whatever to is in that language) Leavenworth, WA. Don't have a picture on file (and doing this on my phone so I don't want to search the web).

*Willkommen. It's German because the town is based on a Bavarian village.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-4mlPJ7s_bAk%2FTtRwqyO3kjI%2FAAAAAAAAAhw%2FtWokQoMGUzc%2Fs1600%2FPC270015%2B425x319.jpg&hash=73706b51f5384b306a7790e516c2a96bfbe4d37e)
For a minute I thought that was from Frankenmuth, Michigan.
Title: Re: Entering a city
Post by: bzakharin on July 26, 2018, 11:43:53 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 25, 2018, 11:23:01 PM
Well, it's the best you can hope for. There are no authentic German (or Scandinavian) villages in the US because...well we aren't one of those countries. The US has its own distinct history, and the best we can do is replicate that which we see abroad.
Well, we have settlements from those countries, like the Pennsylvania Dutch, and traces of New Sweden in the Philly Area, as well as, of course, later immigrants who assimilated for the most part.