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Title: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Quillz on July 27, 2018, 05:27:38 AM
CA

0-9: I'd pick Interstate 5. Interstate 8 is a close second.
10-19: Again, the interstates. 10 or 15.
20-29: 22 is a heavily traveled Orange County freeway.
30-39: I'd go with 37, along the north side of San Pablo Bay.
40-49: Interstate 40, but 49 is a very scenic highway and quite important.
50-59: US 50, but 55 and 57 are two other SoCal freeways of importance.
60-69: Either 60 or 65.
70-79: Probably 74 or 78.
80-89: Quite a few. 80, 85, 87, 89 all come to mind.
90-99: 99
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: hotdogPi on July 27, 2018, 06:31:36 AM
Massachusetts:

0-9: US/MA 3. Picked over the others for being a freeway, and over MA 2 for going through more urban areas.
10-19: MA 12, a segment of the 4-state New England Route. Picked over 10 as 10 is overlapped with US 5 for a while. 16 is also a contender.
20-29: MA 24, a freeway. A case could be made for US 20 or MA 28, though.
30-39: MA 32, also a New England Route segment.
40-49: US 44.
50-59: MA 57, partially a freeway.
60-69: MA 62.
70-79: MA 79, partially a freeway.
80-89: I-84. While the segment in Massachusetts is short, so are the other routes in this range.
90-95: I-95, picked over the other Interstates for being mostly urban (unlike I-90), being in the Boston metro (unlike I-91), and traveling the entire state (unlike I-93).
100-109: MA 109, a surface road leading in and out of Boston.
110-119: MA 114. While shorter than some other options, it's extremely important for its length.
120-129: MA 128, for obvious reasons.
130-139: MA 138. Again, goes into Boston. (135 gets close.)
140-149: MA 146, a freeway.

Numbers get sparse after this.



New Hampshire, since nobody on this forum lives there:

0-9: US 3. Travels the entire length of the state, All single-digit routes in New Hampshire are relatively important, but US 3 is the most important.
10-19: NH 16, partially a freeway, and travels along the eastern edge of the state almost the entire way.
20-29: NH 28, going through the most populated parts of New Hampshire. Picked over New England Routes 25 and 26.
30-39: NH 33. They're all short (or they don't exist), but 33 serves a crucial role. 32 is part of a New England Route, but it ends at Keene.
40-49: NH 43. No good choices; the even numbers don't exist, and the odd numbers are fairly minor.
50-59: No routes in this range. If 51 didn't become 101, though, it would be important.
60-69: NH 63, the only option.
70-79: NH 77. Not important, but the only two other options are 75 and 78.
80-89: I-89. The only other options (84-88, and 86 being former) are all short routes in Rockingham County.
90-99: I-93.
100-109: NH 101. Partially a freeway, and its non-freeway segment is significant.
110-119: NH 112. A good tourist attraction, and connects both halves of the White Mountains.
120-129: NH 125, a good way to avoid I-95's tolls.
130-139: NH 135, on the New Hampshire side of the Connecticut River.
140-149: NH 140. No good choices.
150-159: NH 155. 153 is longer but overshadowed by NH 16.

Numbers get sparse after this.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: SP Cook on July 27, 2018, 10:12:22 AM
This is a new one.  I can do WV:

0-9: WV 2, paralleling the Ohio from the very top of the state to Huntington.  One of the few SRs that carry significant thru traffic.

10-19: US 19.   The part not irrelevanted by parallel interstates, is Corridor L, forming part of the route from Toronto-Buffalo-Pittsburgh to Florida.

20-29: WV 20.  Not that significant, but nothing else is either.

30-39: US 35, funneling truck traffic from the Midwest via Cincy, Dayton, Columbus onto 77 and thus the Piedmont Carolinas.

40-49: US 48, Corridor H, if ever completed.

50-59: US 50.  The western two-thirds is Corridor D, the remainder is a serviceable mountain route.

60-69: I-64

70-79: I-77

80-89:  none

90-99: WV 99.  Not that significant, but best of the range.  Unique construction.

100-199: US 119.  The part not irrelevanted by interstates is Corridor G, one of the few good roads in southern WV.

200-299: US 219:  Serviceable mountain route. US 220 close second. 

300-999: I-470.  One of the smallest towns to get a bypass, 470 forms a de facto part of I-70, which is of national significance if not much to WV.

Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: paulthemapguy on July 27, 2018, 12:03:08 PM
I really like this idea for a thread!

Illinois...

0-9: Probably US6.  If we're talking state routes, IL-1 is the longest state route we have.
10-19: Perhaps IL-13 across southern Illinois.  It's a very important route from Harrisburg to Murphysboro.  Or US12.
20-29: US20.  Maybe I-24.  Can't decide between IL-23 or IL-29 for state routes.
30-39: US30 or I-39.  IL-38 if we're talking state routes.
40-49: US45 covers more mileage than any other route in Illinois.  US41 is Lake Shore Drive though and that's neat IL-47 if we're talking state routes.
50-59: I-55.  IL-53 or IL-59 if we're talking state routes.
60-69: US67.  US66, historically.
70-79: I-70, though it may not be important to Illinoisans specfically.  IL-72 or IL-78 for state routes.
80-89: I-80.  Can't beat the first transcontinental highway. IL-83 or IL-84 for state routes.
90-99: I-90.  IL-92 for state routes.  Maaaaybe IL-97.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: US 89 on July 27, 2018, 01:51:19 PM
For Utah:

0-9: US 6
10-19: I-15
20-29: this is a tough one, but I’m going to say SR-24. It’s the longest state highway in Utah and pretty much the main drag for Wayne County (which lacks any US or Interstate routes). You could make an argument for SR-28 as well for an important connector from I-15 to US 89. SR-21 is one of only five routes to cross the west desert, but it sees so little traffic I don’t think it should be considered.
30-39: SR-36, Tooele’s only 4-lane connection to an interstate. SR-30 crosses the whole state, but it doesn’t see much traffic.
40-49: US 40
50-59: US 50, though really the only part that means a whole lot is between I-15 and I-70. You could argue for SR-52 as a major urban connector, or SR-56 as one of the few roads to actually cross the west desert.
60-69: it’s a tossup between SR-67 and SR-68. 67 is a freeway, but 68 is six times longer.
70-79: I-70
80-89: I-80, though I-84 and US-89 deserve some recognition
90-99: US 91, Logan’s four-lane connection to the Interstate system

100-109: none of these are all that important, but I’m going to say SR-108. That sees a lot of rush hour traffic.
110-119: same thing. I’ll give it to SR-114 as an alternative to the congested I-15.
120-129: 126 and 129 are the only routes in this group that serve any sizable population. I’ll give the edge to SR-126, because 129 has 74 as a close alternate, and 126 sees a lot of traffic (and much of it is also old US 91).
130-139: once it’s done, SR-131. Currently, I’ll say SR-132, which is an important connector route to the Sanpete Valley and Delta.
140-149: SR-145.
150-159: This was a debate, but I’ll have to go SR-151 for this one. I have never seen that road not crowded at rush hour, as it’s a key connecting route to the west side suburbs.
160-169: SR-167.
170-179: when it’s done, SR-179 (the Tooele Midvalley Highway). But at this point, I’ll have to go with 175 for the same reason as 151. Honorable mention to 171, 172, and 173.
180-189: US 189. Honorable mention to SR-186 though.
190-199: US 191. SR-193 definitely deserves a mention though, as does SR-190.

200-209: SR-201.
210-219: I-215.
220-229: SR-224.
230-239: only two exist, and 232 is more important than 235.
240-249: SR-248.
250-259: SR-252. That western bypass of Logan was definitely needed.
260-269: there are a lot of important urban connector highways in this group. I’ll say 265 is the most important, but 266 and 269 deserve a mention.
270-279: wow, none of these routes are that important. I’ll go with 274, since it’s the business loop to I-15 in Parowan.
280-289: here’s where we hit the state parks and institutions, very few of which are actually signed. I’ll go with 282 as most important, since it is a signed route serving the state's flagship university.
290-299: I don’t think any of the 29x routes are signed. I’ll have to go with 290 or 292, since those serve colleges as opposed to other random state institutions.

300-309: again, very few of these routes are signed. 302 is longest so I guess I'll go with that?
310-319: same thing. I’d say 313 because it’s more than 20 miles long and is the main access to Canyonlands. Honorable mention to 315 though, which is the only route of the 281-320 block signed from the interstate and has usefulness outside of its state park connection.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: hbelkins on July 27, 2018, 02:18:33 PM
OK, let's do Kentucky

0-9 -- KY 9. The AA highway and it's Grayson spur, links I-64 in the eastern part of the state to the greater Cincinnati area.

10-19 -- KY 15. The southern spur of the Mountain Parkway, also designated an Appalachian corridor, connects much of southeastern Kentucky to the interstate system and the central part of the state.

20-29 -- US 23. The major north-south route through the mountains, called "eastern Kentucky's interstate" by many. I choose it over I-24, which seems to serve more out-of-state traffic than in-state traffic.

30-39 -- US 31E.

40-49 -- US 45. Links the Purchase area to its biggest city, Paducah.

50-59 -- KY 55. Major route through the central part of the state with portions modernized.

60-69 -- I-64, because it connects Kentucky's two largest cities and its capital.

70-79 -- I-75.

80-89 -- KY 80. Kentucky's longest state route across the southern tier; supplanted by parkways along much of its length but improved in the non-parkway links.

90-99 -- KY 90. Major link in the south-central part of the state, an ARC corridor for part of its length.

Three-digit US routes -- US 127. Major north-south link in the central part of the state and will be mostly upgraded when the proposed construction around Lake Cumberland is done.

Three-digit state routes -- KY 114. Part of the Mountain Parkway corridor.

Three-digit interstates -- I-265.

Four-digit state routes -- KY 1747 in Louisville.




Quote from: SP Cook on July 27, 2018, 10:12:22 AM
This is a new one.  I can do WV:

0-9: WV 2, paralleling the Ohio from the very top of the state to Huntington.  One of the few SRs that carry significant thru traffic.

That would have been my choice.

Quote10-19: US 19.   The part not irrelevanted by parallel interstates, is Corridor L, forming part of the route from Toronto-Buffalo-Pittsburgh to Florida.

Either that, or WV 10, which funnels traffic from the southern part of the state up toward Huntington and is scheduled to get a bunch of improvements between Man and Princeton.

Quote20-29: WV 20.  Not that significant, but nothing else is either.

US 22?

Quote30-39: US 35, funneling truck traffic from the Midwest via Cincy, Dayton, Columbus onto 77 and thus the Piedmont Carolinas.

Honorable mentions, US 30 and US 33.

Quote40-49: US 48, Corridor H, if ever completed.

Now fully signed from Weston to Strasburg. Honorable mention, WV 43 (Mon-Fayette Expressway)

Quote50-59: US 50.  The western two-thirds is Corridor D, the remainder is a serviceable mountain route.

Honorable mention: US 52

Quote60-69: I-64

No-brainer.

Quote70-79: I-77

Honorable mentions: I-70 and I-79

Quote80-89:  none

I-81?

Quote90-99: WV 99.  Not that significant, but best of the range.  Unique construction.

I think a case could be made for WV 92, which runs all the way from I-64 at White Sulphur Springs nearly all the way to I-68 at Morgantown (and in some cases, is still signed along WV 7 from the route's signed terminus into downtown Morgantown). Also, WV 93, which is going to become a fairly important connector route from Corridor H to US 220, and thus on to Cumberland. And WV 97, linking several areas in southern West Virginia to the area's largest town, Beckley. Although I will grant you that WV 99 is an interesting drive.

Quote100-199: US 119.  The part not irrelevanted by interstates is Corridor G, one of the few good roads in southern WV.

200-299: US 219:  Serviceable mountain route. US 220 close second. 

300-999: I-470.  One of the smallest towns to get a bypass, 470 forms a de facto part of I-70, which is of national significance if not much to WV.

Not really much to choose from here, given the way West Virginia haphazardly numbers its three-digit state routes, but I'd nitpick and say that I-470 actually bypasses the tunnel and not Wheeling itself.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: dfilpus on July 27, 2018, 02:26:13 PM
North Carolina:

0-9: US 1.
10-19: US 17.
20-29: I-26.
30-39: NC 32, which continues as VA 32.
40-49: I-40.
50-59: US 52.
60-69: US 64.
70-79: I-77.
80-89: I-85.
90-99: I-95.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: jeffandnicole on July 27, 2018, 02:29:39 PM
I'm going to attempt NJ...

0-9: US 1
10-19: 18 may get the edge; 17 is pretty close
20-29: 21, 22, 24, 27 all maybe??!!  There's so many 2x routes near NYC that all are similarly important
30-39: 33, but again, see above.
40-49: US 46
50-59: 55
60-69: 66
70-79: I-78, but 70, 71, 72, 73 and I-76 could all easily come in 2nd.
80-89: I-80
90-99: I-95
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: hotdogPi on July 27, 2018, 02:31:23 PM
Quote from: dfilpus on July 27, 2018, 02:26:13 PM
North Carolina:

80-89: NC 87, which is longer than I 87.


I-85?
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: dfilpus on July 27, 2018, 02:37:38 PM
Quote from: 1 on July 27, 2018, 02:31:23 PM
Quote from: dfilpus on July 27, 2018, 02:26:13 PM
North Carolina:

80-89: NC 87, which is longer than I 87.


I-85?
Brain Fart.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: briantroutman on July 27, 2018, 03:15:51 PM
Here's my take on PA:

0-9: US 1
10-19: US 15
20-29: US 22
30-39: US 30
40-49:
50-59: PA 51
60-69: PA 61
70-79: I-76
80-89: I-81
90-99: I-95

Most of the decades have fairly clear winners. The 40s, 50s, 60s, and 80s are a bit more muddled.

I'm giving PA 51 the nod as a significant route into Pittsburgh that, with the northern routing of the Mon-Fayette now fixed to Monroeville and not Pittsburgh, will remain a major radial into the city for years to come.

If I was answering this question prior to 2009, I probably would have listed PA 60 as the most important route in the 60s because if its vital role in connecting Pittsburgh with its airport and western suburbs–as well as its role as PA Turnpike 60. But now having been truncated to being a local route merely connecting Crafton, Moon, and Robinson, I think the longer route of PA 61, being the transportation spine of Schuylkill County and connecting the Central Susquehanna Valley with Pottsville and Reading, is more important.

The 80s decade also presents a difficult decision. I originally picked I-80 but changed it to I-81. I-80 is clearly the longer of the two and has the fewest nearby alternate routes. Both I-80 and I-81 are significant corridors for cross-country trucking. But what I think tips the scales in I-81's favor is its significance in both the Harrisburg and Scranton/Wilkes-Barre metro areas.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Eth on July 27, 2018, 03:33:06 PM
Interesting exercise. Let's see what I can do with Georgia...

1-9: I'm going to say most of the single-digit state routes are disqualified; for instance, nobody actually thinks of GA 3 as being meaningful in any way, they think of the US routes it runs with. Therefore, it's US 1 pretty much by default.
10-19: I-16, though US 19 probably isn't that far behind.
20-29: I-20
30-39: Most significant ones (30, 31, 35, 38) are just US route companions. I'll give it to GA 32 for being an independent route that crosses almost the whole state.
40-49: Probably US 41, even if it is generally overshadowed by I-75.
50-59: Maybe GA 54, though that could be my metro Atlanta bias showing. Would maybe entertain an argument for 57 as well. I-59 really has no importance to Georgia itself.
60-69: I'll go with GA 61. About half of it just rides with US 411, but the rest is a decently important Carrollton-Cartersville link.
70-79: I-75
80-89: I-85
90-99: I-95
100-119: GA 112? It's pretty long, at least.
120-139: US 129
140-159: GA 141
160-179: GA 166
180-199: I-185
200-219: GA 212, with honorable mention to GA 204
220-239: US 221
240-259: GA 247 Connector, which links Robins AFB with I-75.
260-279: GA 260 (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/33.7401691,-84.3492307/33.7398296,-84.3278565/@33.7425229,-84.346589,15z/data=!4m2!4m1!5i1). No, I'm kidding, it's US 278.
280-299: I-285
300-319: I'm going with GA 300 because it's an independent route from I-75 all the way to Albany, whereas most of GA 316 is also US 29.
320-349: US 341
350-399: Not much to speak of, since GA 365 has no independent mileage. I guess US 378?
400-449: GA 400, but only if you include the part that's also US 19. If you're just looking at independent 400, then I'd give the nod to US 441.
450-499: I-475
500-599: Does GA 520 get top billing over US 82? If so, I'd probably go with that; otherwise I-575.
600-699: I-675, which is the only number in this range
700-899: no numbers in this range
900-999: I-985, which is the only number in this range
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: jemacedo9 on July 27, 2018, 03:43:53 PM
Quote from: briantroutman on July 27, 2018, 03:15:51 PM
Here's my take on PA:

0-9: US 1
10-19: US 15
20-29: US 22
30-39: US 30
40-49:
50-59: PA 51
60-69: PA 61
70-79: I-76
80-89: I-81
90-99: I-95

Most of the decades have fairly clear winners. The 40s, 50s, 60s, and 80s are a bit more muddled.

I'm giving PA 51 the nod as a significant route into Pittsburgh that, with the northern routing of the Mon-Fayette now fixed to Monroeville and not Pittsburgh, will remain a major radial into the city for years to come.

If I was answering this question prior to 2009, I probably would have listed PA 60 as the most important route in the 60s because if its vital role in connecting Pittsburgh with its airport and western suburbs–as well as its role as PA Turnpike 60. But now having been truncated to being a local route merely connecting Crafton, Moon, and Robinson, I think the longer route of PA 61, being the transportation spine of Schuylkill County and connecting the Central Susquehanna Valley with Pottsville and Reading, is more important.

The 80s decade also presents a difficult decision. I originally picked I-80 but changed it to I-81. I-80 is clearly the longer of the two and has the fewest nearby alternate routes. Both I-80 and I-81 are significant corridors for cross-country trucking. But what I think tips the scales in I-81's favor is its significance in both the Harrisburg and Scranton/Wilkes-Barre metro areas.

I agree with all of the above. 
I struggled a little with 0-9, as PA 8 is pretty important for a Pittsburgh-Butler connection, and a I-80 to Franklin/Oil City connection, but I think US 1 is slightly more important.
40-49: I'd go with PA 43 since it's a freeway/tollway.
50-59: I thought about PA 56 because for the Johnstown area, but I think PA 51 wins out.
I had the same struggle w/ I-80 vs I-81 and had picked I-81 before I saw your post, for the same reasons.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: briantroutman on July 27, 2018, 03:52:12 PM
Quote from: jemacedo9 on July 27, 2018, 03:43:53 PM
40-49: I'd go with PA 43 since it's a freeway/tollway.

I didn't realize until now that I had just skipped the 40s. But yes, I agree: PA 43.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 27, 2018, 03:58:37 PM
Quote from: Quillz on July 27, 2018, 05:27:38 AM
CA

0-9: I'd pick Interstate 5. Interstate 8 is a close second.
10-19: Again, the interstates. 10 or 15.
20-29: 22 is a heavily traveled Orange County freeway.
30-39: I'd go with 37, along the north side of San Pablo Bay.
40-49: Interstate 40, but 49 is a very scenic highway and quite important.
50-59: US 50, but 55 and 57 are two other SoCal freeways of importance.
60-69: Either 60 or 65.
70-79: Probably 74 or 78.
80-89: Quite a few. 80, 85, 87, 89 all come to mind.
90-99: 99

You have me intrigued with this one.  I'll probably do the whole state tonight but I don't know if I would agree in all circumstances that an Interstate/Freeway would trump the importance of a major rural corridor line 25 or 33.  Personally I think I-8 and I-40 are way over valued and don't serve much of an in-state purpose.  I would definitely pick 58 over 50 or 57 given that it is a way more serviceable all year pass in the Sierras. 
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on July 27, 2018, 04:02:56 PM
MN:
1-9: Tough call between US 2 and MN 5, because 5 gets the airport and downtown St. Paul.
10-19: US 10
20-29: MN 23
30-39: I-35
40-49: MN 47
50-59: US 52
60-69: Toughest group with three candidates. Probably MN 62.
70-79: MN 77, edging out 71 and 75
80-89: Hard because none in this group are overly significant. MN 89 by default.
90-99: I-94
100-109: MN 100
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: froggie on July 27, 2018, 04:07:14 PM
I'll bite...

Vermont

0-9:  This is probably the most difficult one, as cases could be made for both US 2 and US 7.  Given that what had previously been the main part of US 2 got superceded by I-89, I'll say US 7.
10-19:  I'd give the edge to VT 15.
20-29:  VT 22A.
30-39:  VT 30 by far.
40-49:  VT 44 is the only one that exists.
50-59:  VT 58 is the only one that exists as a state-maintained route (there's also VT 53, but it's entirely town-maintained).
60-69:  VT 62.
70-79:  VT 73.
Last two categories don't apply...there are no VT state routes between 78 and 100.

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Minnesota

0-9:  To me, it's a toss-up between US 2 and MN 7.  I'd personally go with MN 7. (EDIT:  I didn't go with MN 5 because that's largely local to the Twin Cities area.  MN 7 both serves the Metro and western Minnesota)
10-19:  I'd go with US 10.
20-29:  Definitely MN 23.
30-39:  I-35
40-49:  I'd go with MN 47.  It's the longest of the ten and serves the Twin Cities Metro.
50-59:  A case could be made for US 52, MN 55, or US 59.  I'd go with US 52, as it's the main route between the Twin Cities and Rochester (largest MN city outside the Twin Cities).
60-69:  Cases could be made for MN 60, US 61, or MN 65.  From a historical perspective, definitely US 61.  I'd stick with that today. (EDIT:  didn't go with MN 62 because it's DEFINITELY local to the Metro)
70-79:  US 71.  Though US 75 is longer, US 71 hits higher-population municipalities. (EDIT:  same situation here with MN 77...specifically local to the Metro and not really even in the top 10 within the Metro)
80-89:  MN 89.  None of the other MN 8x routes really amount to anything.
90-99:  I-94
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: GaryV on July 27, 2018, 04:25:29 PM
Michigan:

0-9: M-1 Woodward Avenue
10-19: US-10 (an edge over M-10 for me)
20-29: US-23
30-39: US-31
40-49: US-41
50-59: M-55 (I guess)
69-69: I-69
70-79: I-75
80-89: M-81 (tough to choose)
90-99: I-94 (I-96 would also be a good choice)
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on July 27, 2018, 05:09:15 PM
Indiana

0-9: US 6
10-19: IN 18 (not a lot of good choices here)
20-29: US 20
30-39: US 31 (US 30 a close second)
40-49: US 41
50-59: US 50
60-69: I-65
70-79: I-70
80-89: I-80
90-99: I-94 (since I-90 is mostly duplexed with I-80)

100-199: IN 135
200-299: US 231
300-399: IN 331
400-499: I-465
500-599: IN 550 (western)
600-699: IN 641
700-799: IN 727 (by default)
800-899: I-865
900-999: IN 930 (until 912 is connected again)
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Flint1979 on July 27, 2018, 05:16:52 PM
Michigan

0-9: M-1
10-19: M-10
20-29: M-28
30-39: M-37
40-49: M-46
50-59: M-55
60-69: I-69
70-79: I-75
80-89: M-85
90-99: Probably a tie between I-94 and I-96
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: jp the roadgeek on July 27, 2018, 05:23:16 PM
I'll take a shot at CT:

0-9: 3-way tie between 2, 8, and 9.  All serve essentially the same function: getting traffic from inland cities to the CT shore via expressway

10-19:  CT 15.  The Merritt/Wilbur Cross is an important alternate to I-95 and I-91.

20-29: A slight edge to CT 20 over CT 25 based solely on the significance of the Bradley Connector.   The latter would win if it were a full expressway to I-84, and most would just assume that its designation be eliminated along the 8/25 duplex.


30-39: CT 34.  Important link from upper Fairfield County to the New Haven area

40-49: US 44.  Pretty much by default.  CT 40 is an insignificant expressway and the rest are pretty rural.

50-59: CT 53, with 57, 58, and 59 slightly behind.  Tie goes to the longest length, and they're all Fairfield County North-South arterials.

60-69: CT 63.  Arterial linking New Haven area with the Waterbury/Naugatuck Valley and Litchfield County.  Slight edge over CT 66 and CT 68 (66 would have won in the pre I-691 days)

70-79: CT 72  The expressway between New Britain and Bristol gives it the edge over CT 71 and CT 74

80-89: I-84 (of course).  CT 85 is second based solely on the non-completion of CT 11.

90-99: I-95.  The Main Street of the East Coast.  I-91 is second, CT 99 a distant 3rd, and the rest off the radar

100-109: CT 101.  Part of the most direct link between Hartford and Providence.

110-119: I suppose CT 110 by default, followed by CT 114.  Most of these are rural roads

120-129: None really that major here.  I supposed CT 123 gets the nod over CT 124 because it extends into NY state.

130-139: CT 137.  Serves downtown Stamford.  CT 138, though it's part of an MSR with RI and MA, serves very little function in CT.

140-149: None serve much purpose other than minor arterials or coastal loops, but give me CT 148 if only for the Chester-Hadlyme ferry.

150-159: I'll give it to CT 154 based on length.  While CT 159 is an important link to Six Flags across the MA border, CT 154 gets the nod as a coastal loop and a scenic alternate  (and former routing) to CT 9.

160-169: CT 167 gets a slight edge over CT 160.  Both are arterials in the Hartford area.

170-179: CT 175 slightly over CT 173.  CT 175 is part of a southern bypass of Hartford that I use often when I-84 is clogged.

180-189: CT 187 by a nose over CT 189.  Both serve the same purpose, but the businesses along Blue Hills Ave give 187 the edge.

190-199: CT 190.  Northern tier alternate that can act as a shumpike to the Mass Pike for those going from the Enfield area to eastern MA.  CT 195 is second only because it connects I-84 to the UConn campus.

200-209: I'm going to hold my nose here because of it's frequent redundancy with other routes, but US 202.  The rest of the routes here are out in the sticks.

210-219: CT 218.  The de-facto northwest quadrant of the I-291 beltway

220-229: CT 229.  The road to ESPN and Lake Compounce amusement park from I-84, plus it's becoming an alternate in Southington to the often jammed CT 10 (Queen St.).  CT 220 is multi state and serves Enfield Mall and a prison, but is pretty rural away from the mall.

230-239: CT 234 by default.  No others exist.

240-249: CT 243.  An alternate to CT 34 connecting New Haven with the Naugatuck Valley.

250-259: CT 254 by default. No others exist.

260-264: CT 262, only because it has an interchange with CT 8 and is signed better than the other option, CT 263

270-279: CT 272 over CT 275 based on length.  Neither is significant

280-289:  CT 287, based on it being in a slightly more urban area than CT 286 and CT 289

290-299: I-291 by default.  No others exist.

300-309: CT 305.  Although shorter than CT 302, it has an interchange with I-91 and businesses along it.

310-319: All serve very little purpose, but I'll go with CT 314 as it is a nothern extension of the Berlin Turnpike, and Jordan Lane serves a couple of CT state offices.

320-329: CT 322.  Was CT 320 until CT 322 took over CT 66 through Southington/Cheshire.  Both have truck stops along their paths, but CT 322 has more retail.

330-339: CT 337, only because it connects I-95 with Tweed-New Haven airport

340-349: CT 349, as it serves Groton-New London Airport and Groton City.  CT 341 is longer but rural, and CT 343 is a stub end to NY 343

350-359: CT 354 by default.  No others exist

360-364:  CT 364.  CT 361 is the other choice and would have won if NY hadn't decommissioned its route.  Both are glorified town roads, and CT 361 is intratown.

370-379: CT 372 by default.  No others exist 

380-389: I-384 by default.  No others exist.

390-399: None

NOT DOING SSR's and SR's so none for 400-679

680-689: I-684 by default (even though it's only accessible from NY)  No others exist.

690-699: I-691 by default.  No others exist
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Thing 342 on July 27, 2018, 06:22:25 PM
Here's my take on Virginia:

0-9: US-1 (Also considered: VA-3, VA-6, VA-7)
10-19: US-13 (Also considered: US-11, US-17)
20-29: US-29
30-39: US-33 (Also considered: VA-33)
40-49: US-48 (Also considered: VA-40, VA-48)
50-59: US-58 (Also considered: US-50)
60-69: I-64
70-79: I-77
80-89: I-85
90-99: I-95
100-199: VA-168 (Also: VA-150, VA-164, I-195)
200-299: I-295 (Also: I-264, VA-286)
300-399: I-395
400-499: I-495 (Also: US-460)
500-599: I-564
600-699: I-664
700-799: VA-785 (Also: various secondary routes in Northern Virginia)
800-899: VA-895
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: KeithE4Phx on July 27, 2018, 06:34:53 PM
Arizona
0-9:  I-8, by default, since it's the only single-digit Federal or state highway in Arizona.
10-19:  I-10, the only cross-country highway in the state.
20-24:  AZ 24, our most important off-ramp (Loop 202 to Ellsworth Rd. in Mesa).  :)  Also the only AZ 2x.
30-39:  None exist yet, although AZ 30 will be the only one so far, once it's built.
40-49:  I-40, another default.
50-59:  AZ 51, the Piestewa Freeway in Phoenix. Again the only one.
60-69:  US 60, the only non-Interstate that completely crosses Arizona.
70-79:  US 70, because all state highways in this range are essentially secondary roads.
80-89:  AZ 87, the Beeline Highway.  The main road to the NE from the Valley.
90-99:  US 93, at least for the time being.  It'll eventually become I-11.
1xx:  AZ Loop 101, the freeway around Phoenix.  Honorable mention:  US 191, the former US 666.
2xx:  AZ Loop 202, the freeway around the SE Valley. Honorable mention:  AZ 260, the road on the Mogollon Rim.
3xx:  AZ Loop 303, which isn't a loop at all.

All numbered highways above 400 (what few there are) are secondary roads.  Not worth mentioning here.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Hurricane Rex on July 27, 2018, 06:37:50 PM
Oregon:
1-10: I-5
11-20: US 20
21-30: US 26
31-40: OR 35 but you could easily say OR 38
41-50:  OR 42
51-60: OR 58
61-70: OR 62
71-80: OR 74
81-90: I-84
91-100: tie: OR 99(W) and US 97
101-110: US 101
111-130: OR 126
131-140: OR 138
OR 141
151-200: US 197
201-210: I-205
210-220: OR 217
220-230: OR 224
231-240: OR 237
241-250: OR 242
250-300: OR 260
301-399: OR 380
401-499: OR 402
500-599: OR 569

LG-TP260

Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: oscar on July 27, 2018, 07:00:51 PM
Alaska's list is really short.

1-10: AK 1
11-20: AK 11 (only route in that range)
91-100: AK 98 (only route in that range)

Nothing 21-90, or over 100 unless you count forest service roads

Hawaii:

1-10: Interstate H-1
11-20: HI 11
21-30: HI 30
31-40: HI 37
41-50: HI 50
51-60: HI 56
61-70: tie between HI 61 and HI 63
71-80: HI 76
81-90: HI 83
91-100: HI 99
100s: HI 130
200s: HI 200 across the Big Island, though Interstate H-201 on Oahu carries much more traffic
300s: HI 360
400s: HI 450
500s: HI 560
600s: no routes
700s: HI 750 (only route in range)
800s: no routes
900s: HI 930
1000s: short, unsigned HI 1370 (service road for Hilo airport; only one other HI 1xxx, which is also unimportant)
2000s: HI 2000
3000s: HI 3000
4000s: no routes
5000s: unsigned 5600 (only route in range)
6000s: no routes
7000s: HI 7101
8000s: HI 8930 (only signed route in range)
9000s and above: no routes
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: webny99 on July 27, 2018, 07:25:49 PM
A humble stab at New York:

Single digits: Toss-up between NY 5 and US 9.
Tens: Could be NY 14/NY 15, but US 11 has the edge.
Twenties: US 20. NY 28 is definitely a competitor.
Thirties: NY 30
Forties: NY 49. Maybe US 44.
Fifties: NY 53
Sixties: US 62
Seventies: I'll go with NY 78 for now. Up for debate.
Eighties: (:popcorn:) I-81
Nineties: I-99, because why not?

We could go further, but let's stop there.  :D
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: jon daly on July 27, 2018, 07:41:54 PM
Jp, you're not going with one of the US highways for the MIH in the single digit range? I suppose that they've all been superceded by an interstate; except US-7.

I'd go with  2 or 8 over 9.

Also, thanks for taking on Connecticut. I didn't have the time to give it serious thought.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: mrcmc888 on July 27, 2018, 07:48:26 PM
Tennessee:

1-9: TN-1, concurrent with US 70 and runs cross state
10-19: US-11, runs from Bristol to Chattanooga
20-29: I-24, connects Nashville with Chattanooga and St. Louis
30-39: US-31, major Nashville arterial
40-49: I-40, runs across the state from Memphis all the way to the Smoky Mountains
50-59: US-51, the way most rural West TN counties get to Memphis
60-69: I-65, Chicago one way, Mobile the other, and runs right through Nashville
70-79: I-75, connects Knoxville, Chattanooga and the Tri-Cities with Atlanta and Detroit
80-89: I-81, rises just outside of Knoxville and is the way most travelers use to get to the ski resorts in West Virginia as well as DC, Baltimore, Philly and NYC
90-99: TN-96, long bypass of Nashville and major arterial for farming communities just south of it
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: SCtoKC on July 27, 2018, 08:19:16 PM
I'm going to do my home state of South Carolina.

1-9: SC 9
10-19: US 17
20-29: I-26
30-39: SC 31 - Potential future I-74.
40-49: SC 41
50-59: US 52
60-69: SC 65 - Tough one, because none in this range stand out.  SC 65 is Ocean Boulevard in North Myrtle Beach.
70-79: US 76 (or I-77)
80-89: I-85
90-99: I-95
100s: US 178
200s: US 278
300s: I-385
400s: US 401
500s: US 501
600s: US 601
700s: US 701
800s: SC 823
900s: SC 917
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: jemacedo9 on July 27, 2018, 08:28:40 PM
Quote from: webny99 on July 27, 2018, 07:25:49 PM
A humble stab at New York:

Single digits: Toss-up between NY 5 and US 9.
Tens: Could be NY 14/NY 15, but US 11 has the edge.
Twenties: US 20. NY 28 is definitely a competitor.
Thirties: NY 30
Forties: NY 49. Maybe US 44.
Fifties: NY 53
Sixties: US 62
Seventies: I'll go with NY 78 for now. Up for debate.
Eighties: (:popcorn:) I-81
Nineties: I-99, because why not?

We could go further, but let's stop there.  :D

10's I'd go with NY 17 as long as it's mainly co-signed w/ I-86, and especially the Quickway portion, over US 11 or NY 14 or NY 15
80's I'd go with I-87 over I-81, because NY City - Albany - Northway > Binghamton - Syracuse
90's I'd go with I-90
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: vdeane on July 27, 2018, 08:50:03 PM
I'd go with US 9 for single digits.  It's the primary arterial east of the Hudson, whereas NY 5 is close to the Thruway for its entire length.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: wriddle082 on July 27, 2018, 09:39:45 PM
South Carolina

1-9:  I’m really struggling between US 1 and SC 9, but I’m thinking 9 has the edge since it’s not supplanted by any interstates and it stays close to most of the northern border.
10-19:  US 17
20-29:  I-26
30-39:  I’d say SC 34 since it’s fairly long going from Greenwood to Dillon.  But also SC 31 because it’s an important freeway bypass of a bypass of Myrtle Beach, which could one day be an interstate.
40-49:  Either SC 41 because it’s long or SC 49 because it serves suburban Charlotte.  SC 48 is also important since it runs along Columbia’s Assembly Street and passes by the SC State House and USC.
50-59:  US 52
60-69:  I’ll go with SC 64.
70-79:  I-77, but SC 72 gets honorable mention due to its improvements b/w GA and Clinton.
80-89:  I-85, duh!
90-99:  I-95, also duh!
100s: either US 123 because it goes through Clemson, or SC 151 since it’s all four lanes from Pageland to Darlington and is an important piece of an improved link b/w Charlotte and Florence.
200s:  going with US 278 because it connects I-95 with Hilton Head Island.
300s:  IMO it’s literally a three way tie b/w US 301, US 321, and I-385.
400s:  This one is tough.  I really don’t think it’s US 401 so I’m going with SC 460 since it’s a new route and bypasses Fort Mill.
500s:  pretty sure it’s US 501, but I-526 is also important.  Hmmm...
600s:  All I can think of is US 601 but I’m thinking there could be a better one?
700s:  I guess US 701, but maybe SC 768 because it’s a shortcut from I-77 to US 76/378 towards Sumter.  Or SC 703 going from the foot of the Ravenel Bridge through Mt. Pleasant to Sullivan’s Island.
800s:  wow, I can’t even think of any SC primary routes in the 800s
900s:  SC 901, which is an underrated alternate route to I-77 from northern Fairfield County to the outskirts of Rock Hill.

I’ll try to do Tennessee later.


Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 27, 2018, 10:15:29 PM
Starting California:

1-9

-  I'd say probably I-5 given the length traveled and through route from San Diego to L.A.  I'd argue that 1 is pretty up there as well given the tourism value in segments like Big Sur, the Devil's Slide, and North Shore Highway.  I-8 is important but that drops off considerably east of San Diego given the routing through the low parts of the Sonoran Desert.

10-19

-  Really it's hard to argue I-15 with the San Diego-Inland Empire-Las Vegas Connection, I-10 is close with the Los Angeles-Phoenix connection.  14 being part of the old US 6 corridor is important in terms of a desert connector.  17 spawned various 3d Interstates and still is an important Bay Area Highway.

20-29

-  I'd say 25 given it is essentially the main through road for the majority of San Benito County along the Airline Highway.  CA 25 has a National Park connection with Pinnacles at CA 146.  20 is a pretty lengthy route but isn't essential in terms of getting over the Sierras.  24 probably would have won this one before it was butchered by 3d Interstates.

30-39

-  I was originally going to say 33 but I decided on 36 instead.  36 essentially traverses some the length of the state in some really rural regions and is an all-year pass at the boundary of the Cascades/Sierras. 

40-49

-  I-40 is the cliche pick but 41 is more important to California as a whole.  41 is a major freeway in the Fresno Area and the most common access point for Yosemite National Park.  41 also is a major connector to the coast via the Diablo Range.  I-40 is surprisingly light on traffic and doesn't connect to much except ghost towns in-state wise.  46 is a major Central Valley-Coastal connector as part of the former US 466 corridor.  49 is an all-year pass of the Sierras and traverses much of the traditional California Gold Country as a tourism route.

50-59

-  US 50 is an all-year pass in the Sierras but 58 is way more practical for said purpose which is reflected in the traffic count.  58 east of 99 to I-15 pretty soon will be at least a four-lane expressway all the way which will make it even more of a favored route for commerce and travel.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Alps on July 27, 2018, 10:52:31 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 27, 2018, 02:29:39 PM
I'm going to attempt NJ...

0-9: US 1
10-19: 18 may get the edge; 17 is pretty close
20-29: 21, 22, 24, 27 all maybe??!!  There's so many 2x routes near NYC that all are similarly important
30-39: 33, but again, see above.
40-49: US 46
50-59: 55
60-69: 66
70-79: I-78, but 70, 71, 72, 73 and I-76 could all easily come in 2nd.
80-89: I-80
90-99: I-95
1-9: Concur
10-19: I would argue 17 is more essential to Bergen County than 18 is to Monmouth.
20-29: Definitely not 27. I'm leaning 24 based on overall usage - 21 would win if it stayed a freeway through Newark.
30-39: I would select 31. It serves a major role in a corridor with no other roads. 33 is close, but parts of it are less important. You could also argue 35...
40-49: Concur, though 40 and 47 are close.
50-59: Concur
60-69: Concur
70-79: I would almost rank 70 over 78 just because of how important it is. If 78 goes down, you have 22 (or at least 173). If 70 goes down, there's nothing.
80-89: Concur
90-99: Concur
100-199: Just for fun. 139 earns my nod over I-195 because of how crucial a link it is.
200-299: A lot of important 2xx routes, but I'd vote for I-287. So congested all over.
300-399: US 322
400-499: NJ 444 (Garden State Parkway)
500-599: (NJ county system) A lot of good choices... I vote 501 but you could argue 508, 510, 517, 535, 539, or many others. A lot are just out nowhere despite being long and useful.
600-699: There is only I-676.
700-799: There is only NJ 700.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: roadman65 on July 27, 2018, 10:54:58 PM
Florida
0-9 I-4 but US 1 a close second being its the main road in the Keys
10-19 SR 15 (mostly cause its the secret number for US 17 north of Orlando)
20-29 US 27
30-39 SR 33
40-49 US 41
50-59 SR 50
60-69 SR 60
70-79 SR 70
80-89 SR 80
90-99 I-95
100-109 SR 105
110-119 SR 112
120-129 SR 121
130-139 N/A
140-149 N/A
150-159 N/A
160-169 N/A
170-179 N/A
180-189 N/A
190-191 N/A
200-209 SR 200
210-219 SR 212 ( US 90 east of I-95)
220-229 US 221
230-239 US 231
240-249 N/A
250-259 N/A
260-269 N/A
270-279 N/A
280-289 N/A
290-299 N/A
300-309 US 301
310-319 US 319
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Alps on July 27, 2018, 11:01:00 PM
Bending rules for Rhode Island due to New England numbering conventions:
0-9 and 100-109: US 1, over 6 (because 101 and 6 split traffic)
10-19 and 110-119: RI 114, over 10
20-29 and 120-129: RI 122
30-39 and 130-139: RI 138
40-49 and 140-149: RI 146
50-59 and 150-159: RI 51 wins by default over RI 152, but neither is a great choice
60-69 and 160-169: RI 165 is the only one
70-79 and 170-179: RI 77
80-89 and 180-189: RI 81 is the only one, but at least it's decent
90-99 and 190-199: I-95
200+: I-295
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Alps on July 27, 2018, 11:07:53 PM
Delaware (oh boy):
1-9: DE 1
10-19: US 13
20-29: DE 20; 24 a close second
30-39: DE 30
40-49: US 40
50-59: DE 54
60-69: DE 62 is the only choice
70-79: DE 71
80-89: DE 82 is the only choice
90-99: I-95
100+: US 301, with honorable mentions to I-295, US 113, and DE 896
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 27, 2018, 11:24:45 PM
California continued:

60-69

-  Traditionally this would have been US 66 for obvious reasons.  Today CA 60 serves a completely viable alternate to I-10 in Metro L.A. and really should have remained US 60.  65 would have been pretty up there if the segments were ever connected together.  62 is a solid alternate to I-10 through the desert to Arizona but doesn't connect to much east of 29 Palms.

70-79

-  By far CA 70 through the Feather River Canyon which is a fairly easy all-year pass of the Sierras.  Previously CA 70 was part of US 40a and CA 24 prior to that.  74 and 78 merit some consideration due to their length.

80-89

-  I-80 is unquestionably the most important 2d Interstate in California with the Bay Area connection east over Donner Summit to Nevada.  85 is a fairly important freeway but 88 I think ranks up there higher due to it being an all-year pass in the Sierras via Carson Pass and an alternate to US 50.  89 is a great tourism route with Lassen Volcanic National Park, Lake Tahoe, Mount Shasta, and Monitor Pass.

90-99

-  99 takes the win by far and still should be a US Route.  CA 99's freeway segment is the longest in the country that isn't park of the Interstate system.  Surprisingly US 95 doesn't really offer all that much in terms of being important to California as a whole due to the rural desert alignment, I'd say AZ 95 carries more weight.  US 97 connects to some important eastern areas in Oregon but not much in California.  91 still carries a lot of weight as a limited access facility.  96 and 94 are important regional routes that have substantial length.

100-109

-  By far US 101 considering it's length and importance as a travel corridor between Los Angeles to San Francisco.  Said segment of US 101 doesn't even have a traffic light between Los Angeles and San Francisco anymore.  I-105 doesn't do much for me and I tend to look as short routes no matter what type as not all that important on a state-wide scale.  CA 108 is a pass of the Sierras but is seasonal and not very practical with 26% grades.

110-119

-  CA 110/I-110 is a pretty important route between Pasadena and Long Beach...doesn't hurt it was part of US 66.  CA 111 connects some significant regions in the Sonoran Desert.  =

120-129

-  I'd say CA 120 given the connection to Yosemite and a seasonal pass of the Sierras on the implied Tioga Pass route.  CA 126 has a major impact connecting the Ventura to the Los Angeles area but it can't outweigh a Trans-Sierran route to a National Park IMO.  CA 127 connects some really rural parts of the Mojave Desert near the Nevada State Line and essentially is a connector to Death Valley National Park. CA 128 has a huge length in some really rural mountain areas north of the Bay Area.

130-139

-  I'm going to go with CA 132 given the corridor connects I-5 to CA 99.  It doesn't hurt CA 132 can be used as a way to reach CA 132 heading east towards Yosemite.  CA 134 is an important freeway in the Los Angeles area.  CA 138 is continually touted as some future corridor of importance in the Mojave but really parts of it should be CA 2 still.  CA 139 connects some really rural areas to major routes in the Cascades.

140-149

-  I'm going to give this one to 145 given the connection between the I-5 and CA 99 corridors.  CA 140 probably would beat it in my book if the Fergusson Slide in the Merced River Canyon ever gets fixed, personally this is my favored route out of Yosemite.  CA 146 exists in two segments connecting Pinnacles National Park.

150-159

-  CA 152 over Pacheco Pass is a huge connector from the Central Valley to the Bay Area.  CA 150 connects some rural areas north of Ventura that don't have much access otherwise.  CA 156 essentially is the primary route from the Monterey Peninsula to US 101 and Pacheco Pass.

160-169

-  CA 168 is an important freeway in Fresno which connects to really nice tourist areas in the western Sierras.  Eastern CA 168 is a rural connector to some derelict parts of Nevada.  CA 160 is an important corridor in the Delta Area and CA 163 is a major freeway connecting downtown San Diego to I-8.  CA 166 connects the Central Valley to the coast on a beautiful routing through the Cuyama Valley.  CA 167 has become a favored trucking route from US 395. 

170-179

-  CA 178 takes this one considering Walker Pass is a viable all-year pass in the Sierras.  CA 58 west of Bakerfield used to part of CA 178, really it should be a state-wide route.

180-189

-  CA 180 is a major freeway in Fresno and connects to Kings Canyon National Park.   180 would even be more important if it had a completed connection to CA 25.

190-199

-  Really I'd say CA 198 given it connects US 101, I-5, CA 99 and Sequoia National Park.  CA 190 would have more weight if the Trans-Sierran Pass was completed but it is the primary route through Death Valley National Park.  US 199 connects US 101 to I-5 but really is extremely rural.


Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 28, 2018, 12:15:37 AM
Continuing with California:

200-209

-  Not much in this ban, so pretty much I-205 by default.

210-219

-  Really I think I-210 over I-215 probably would take the win here considering it absorbed CA 30.

220-229

-  CA 223 is the most substantial route in this ban and connects some major corridors like; I-5, CA 99, and CA 58.  The climb up to CA 58 is actually pretty scenic.

230-239

- CA 237 is a major freeway I personally would pick it over I/CA 238.  CA 236 connects CA 9 to Big Basin State Park which is among the higher tier in the state. 

240-249

-  245 personally is among my favorite drives in the state and essentially is an alternate between Kings Canyon and Sequoia National Parks over the Generals Highway.  CA 241 is an important limited access facility but doesn't serve much outside of Metro Los Angeles.  CA 243 connects some mountainous routes to I-10.  CA 247 connects I-40 to CA 62 and is part of a Interstate bypass route I take to Arizona.

250-259

-  CA 254 because its the Avenue of the Giants and a former segment of US 101.

260-269

-  CA 262 connects a couple Interstate routes.  CA 261 is a toll road in the Los Angeles area.  CA 267 connects I-80 directly south to Lake Tahoe.

270-279

-  I'd take CA 270 given it connects US 395 to Bodie State Park.

280-980

-  US 395 wins this one given it is the major north/south route on the eastern flank of the Sierras and Mojave Desert.  I-280 probably would take the win in terms of 3d Interstates given it essentially the twin-connecting route from San Jose to San Francisco.  CA 299 connects numerous US Routes and traverses the state.  I-580 is hugely important connecting the Central Valley to the Bay Area.  I-405 is up there but personally I don't think it really has a much purpose beyond being traffic jam hell in the Los Angeles area.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: jon daly on July 28, 2018, 08:25:53 AM
Steve or anyone else, I should probably know this, but what is different about New England numbering conventions?
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: pianocello on July 28, 2018, 11:49:59 AM
Iowa:

1-9: IA 5. It's the only single-digit state route that has significant expressway sections, although IA 2, IA 3, US 6, and IA 9 go across the entire state.
10-19: US 18?
20-29: US 20
30-39: I-35, although honorable mentions can be given to US 30 and US 34
40-49: IA 44. Not much to choose from here.
50-59: IA 58
60-69: US 61
70-79: US 71
80-89: I-80
90-99: IA 92

The state highway numbers get kinda sparse past 100.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: webny99 on July 28, 2018, 12:58:01 PM
Quote from: jemacedo9 on July 27, 2018, 08:28:40 PM
Quote from: webny99 on July 27, 2018, 07:25:49 PM
A humble stab at New York:
Single digits: Toss-up between NY 5 and US 9.
Tens: Could be NY 14/NY 15, but US 11 has the edge.
Twenties: US 20. NY 28 is definitely a competitor.
Thirties: NY 30
Forties: NY 49. Maybe US 44.
Fifties: NY 53
Sixties: US 62
Seventies: I'll go with NY 78 for now. Up for debate.
Eighties: (:popcorn:) I-81
Nineties: I-99, because why not?
10's I'd go with NY 17 as long as it's mainly co-signed w/ I-86, and especially the Quickway portion, over US 11 or NY 14 or NY 15

Whoops. I tend to think of it exclusively as I-86 west of Binghamton. Including just Binghamton to I-87, despite it's status as an expressway, I think a case could still be made for US 11.

Quote80's I'd go with I-87 over I-81, because NY City - Albany - Northway > Binghamton - Syracuse

Yeah, probably true, although I'd rather be biased towards upstate than downstate.  :-P

Quote90's I'd go with I-90

Knew somebody would catch that one.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: plain on July 28, 2018, 01:16:14 PM
Quote from: Thing 342 on July 27, 2018, 06:22:25 PM
40-49: US-48 (Also considered: VA-40, VA-48)

I think VA 40 is waaaaaayy more important to Virginia than US 48 is
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: froggie on July 28, 2018, 05:14:16 PM
^ Agreed.  US 48 in Virginia is basically an afterthought.  Though one could make an argument that VA 42 has more import than VA 40.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: ftballfan on July 28, 2018, 08:31:47 PM
I've seen two for Michigan, but I decided to do my own (mostly the same).

0-9: M-1, but an argument could also be made for M-6
10-19: US-10 and M-10 share, since they once were the same route
20-29: US-23, especially considering it's quicker than I-75 from Flint to Toledo (that puts it ahead of M-25 or M-28)
30-39: US-31
40-49: M-46, just slightly ahead of US-41
50-59: M-55, ahead of M-50 (pre-freeway, M-50 would have won)
60-69: I-69
70-79: I-75
80-89: M-85 (very tough to decide between M-85 or M-89)
90-99: I-94, just ahead of I-96
100-119: M-117
120-139: M-120
140-159: M-153
160-179: M-179 by default (despite it having multiple four-way stops with local roads)
180-199: I-196
200-249: M-231 (while a little out of the way, it does serve as a Grand Haven bypass whenever traffic is backed up on US-31, which is common)
250-299: I-275
300-499: I-496, ahead of I-475 due to Lansing being the state capital and not the wasteland that Flint is
500+: I-696
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: DandyDan on July 28, 2018, 09:34:44 PM
Quote from: pianocello on July 28, 2018, 11:49:59 AM
Iowa:

1-9: IA 5. It's the only single-digit state route that has significant expressway sections, although IA 2, IA 3, US 6, and IA 9 go across the entire state.
10-19: US 18?
20-29: US 20
30-39: I-35, although honorable mentions can be given to US 30 and US 34
40-49: IA 44. Not much to choose from here.
50-59: IA 58
60-69: US 61
70-79: US 71
80-89: I-80
90-99: IA 92

The state highway numbers get kinda sparse past 100.
I can agree with most of your selections. I-29 can be it for the 20's if you consider the national scheme of things. The 40's and 50's don't offer much, but I can see IA 57 outranking IA 58, if only for length and the fact it used to be US 20.

As for 100+ highways, I will go with US 218, but if you want to make it I-380 or I-235, so be it.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: vdeane on July 28, 2018, 10:23:45 PM
Quote from: webny99 on July 28, 2018, 12:58:01 PM
Quote from: jemacedo9 on July 27, 2018, 08:28:40 PM
80's I'd go with I-87 over I-81, because NY City - Albany - Northway > Binghamton - Syracuse
Yeah, probably true, although I'd rather be biased towards upstate than downstate.  :-P
Albany is upstate!  And yeah, the Northway gets a LOT more traffic than I-81, especially in tourist season; it has one of the longest continuous 6+ lane sections of road in the state (55 miles from I-90 through Lake George) for a reason.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: hbelkins on July 28, 2018, 10:41:52 PM
Quote from: froggie on July 28, 2018, 05:14:16 PM
^ Agreed.  US 48 in Virginia is basically an afterthought.  Though one could make an argument that VA 42 has more import than VA 40.

I wouldn't exactly say 42 has "import," although it is a scenic drive (I've clinched all three segments).
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Sctvhound on July 28, 2018, 10:57:39 PM
Quote from: wriddle082 on July 27, 2018, 09:39:45 PM
South Carolina

1-9:  I'm really struggling between US 1 and SC 9, but I'm thinking 9 has the edge since it's not supplanted by any interstates and it stays close to most of the northern border.
10-19:  US 17
20-29:  I-26
30-39:  I'd say SC 34 since it's fairly long going from Greenwood to Dillon.  But also SC 31 because it's an important freeway bypass of a bypass of Myrtle Beach, which could one day be an interstate.
40-49:  Either SC 41 because it's long or SC 49 because it serves suburban Charlotte.  SC 48 is also important since it runs along Columbia's Assembly Street and passes by the SC State House and USC.
50-59:  US 52
60-69:  I'll go with SC 64.
70-79:  I-77, but SC 72 gets honorable mention due to its improvements b/w GA and Clinton.
80-89:  I-85, duh!
90-99:  I-95, also duh!
100s: either US 123 because it goes through Clemson, or SC 151 since it's all four lanes from Pageland to Darlington and is an important piece of an improved link b/w Charlotte and Florence.
200s:  going with US 278 because it connects I-95 with Hilton Head Island.
300s:  IMO it's literally a three way tie b/w US 301, US 321, and I-385.
400s:  This one is tough.  I really don't think it's US 401 so I'm going with SC 460 since it's a new route and bypasses Fort Mill.
500s:  pretty sure it's US 501, but I-526 is also important.  Hmmm...
600s:  All I can think of is US 601 but I'm thinking there could be a better one?
700s:  I guess US 701, but maybe SC 768 because it's a shortcut from I-77 to US 76/378 towards Sumter.  Or SC 703 going from the foot of the Ravenel Bridge through Mt. Pleasant to Sullivan's Island.
800s:  wow, I can't even think of any SC primary routes in the 800s
900s:  SC 901, which is an underrated alternate route to I-77 from northern Fairfield County to the outskirts of Rock Hill.

I'll try to do Tennessee later.

Agree with most of yours. SC 61 could also be the most important in the 60s, since it connects all the historical plantations and is a major route in Charleston.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Quillz on July 29, 2018, 02:16:21 AM
CA, Pt. 2

100-109: Easy choice here, it's the 101. The longest highway in the state, connects LA to the Bay Area, historically also went to San Diego.

110-119: Both 110 and 118 are important within the Greater LA Area. 110 is one of the oldest freeways and closest to Downtown LA, while 118 is an important Oxnard-San Fernando connector, with the eastern half a freeway through the Simi and San Fernando Valleys. I'd rank 113 as important, too. A short freeway segment between Davis and Woodland and can be used as a bypass of Sacramento (although the 505 is generally better).

120-129: 120 would be my pick. A freeway through a portion of the Central Valley, then climbs the Sierra foothills and eventually Tioga Pass through Yosemite. Then has a segment through the Eastern Sierra, finally ending at US-6 near the Nevada border. But other important regional highways would include 126, 127, and 128.

130-139: 134, 138, 139 seem equally important to me. 138 isn't very long, but is an all-freeway connection between 101 and 210 (i.e. the Ventura and Foothill Freeways). Burbank, Glendale, Pasadena are all directly on the freeway's alignment. 138 is an important corridor for the high desert area, mainly Palmdale, and is often utilized as a way to either get to Vegas (via I-15 at Cajon Pass) or into the San Bernardino Mountains (beyond Cajon Pass). It's probably used more for diverting traffic onto the 15 or 18, but is still very well traveled. And 139 connects Susanville, CA to Klamath Falls, OR. Other than taking US-97 directly, 139 is the only California route that leads directly into Central Oregon and ultimately its larger cities (such as Bend).

140-149: 140 is really the only significant route I can think of (several numbers in this range aren't even assigned). Like 120, 140 leads into Yosemite, although its probably used less than either the 41 or 120. Beyond that, it is another route across the San Joaquin Valley and provides access to I-5.

150-159: 154 would be my pick. Originally part of a longer 150, 154 is the San Marcos Pass Road and is often used as an alternate to 101. It skips the Gaviota coast entirely and gives alternate access to Solvang (a popular tourist town) and direct access to Los Olivos (one of the important Santa Barbara Wine Country towns). It would be more useful if it could bypass Santa Barbara entirely (doing this requires taking 192 in addition).

160-169: Everything in this range is pretty regional in nature. I'd probably pick 168 only because both non-contiguous portions lead to popular spots in the Sierra. And in theory, if the two portions were connected, would provide a very nice trans-Sierra route that would provide alternate access to Bishop and the Mammoth Mountain Ski Area. But there is also 166, historically one of the earlier connections between the Central Coast and the Central Valley. But today, it's more of a scenic alternate than anything else, following the Cuyama River.

170-179: 178 is a pretty easy choice here. Historically, nearly crossed the entire state from the Central Coast to east of Ridgecrest. Has a second segment in Death Valley that crosses into Nevada, so a theoretical connection between the portions would make it one of the few west-east state routes to cross a border. Of course, nowadays it begins in Bakersfield, but it isn't any less important. It's generally considered the southernmost Sierra pass, and while fairly low, also makes it open year-round. Most motorists from the LA area would just use the 14 -> 395 to reach the Sierra, but for Central Valley motorists, 178 is a good choice.

180-189: Another range of mainly regionally-important routes. 180 is probably my pick, being a freeway through Fresno and also giving access to both Sequoia and Kings Nat'l Parks (the former via 198/Generals Highway, the latter directly). 186 and 188 are very short routes (maybe a mile at most), but they reach the international border with Mexico and thus are significant for that reason alone (both border stations are very busy).

190-199: The eastern half of 190 would probably be my pick. It is generally how most LA motorists would reach Death Valley, since it lets them avoid the Inland Empire traffic on I-15, followed by frequent backups near Barstow and Baker. The wester half is less significant, and while there is no official connection between the two, there is a series of forest routes that make an unofficial connection and are open through the winter. 198 is another important route, but its mainly used to reach Sequoia Nat'l Park, so only the segment east of Visalia will generally see much traffic. And finally, 199 is a US highway, but itself is pretty little traveled, although its probably the best connection from the North Coast to Central Oregon between CA-299 and OR-42.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: webny99 on July 29, 2018, 12:10:13 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 28, 2018, 10:23:45 PM
Quote from: webny99 on July 28, 2018, 12:58:01 PM
Quote from: jemacedo9 on July 27, 2018, 08:28:40 PM
80's I'd go with I-87 over I-81, because NY City - Albany - Northway > Binghamton - Syracuse
Yeah, probably true, although I'd rather be biased towards upstate than downstate.  :-P
Albany is upstate!

Of course, but an argument for I-87 requires factoring in downstate. Without NYC and vicinity, it's pretty much a toss-up.

QuoteAnd yeah, the Northway gets a LOT more traffic than I-81, especially in tourist season; it has one of the longest continuous 6+ lane sections of road in the state (55 miles from I-90 through Lake George) for a reason.

Very true. No disputing I-87 wins based on traffic volume, although I-81 passes through two upstate metros to I-87's one, and serves as the primary route from central and western NY to NYC.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Flint1979 on July 29, 2018, 03:25:46 PM
Quote from: webny99 on July 29, 2018, 12:10:13 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 28, 2018, 10:23:45 PM
Quote from: webny99 on July 28, 2018, 12:58:01 PM
Quote from: jemacedo9 on July 27, 2018, 08:28:40 PM
80's I'd go with I-87 over I-81, because NY City - Albany - Northway > Binghamton - Syracuse
Yeah, probably true, although I'd rather be biased towards upstate than downstate.  :-P
Albany is upstate!

Of course, but an argument for I-87 requires factoring in downstate. Without NYC and vicinity, it's pretty much a toss-up.

QuoteAnd yeah, the Northway gets a LOT more traffic than I-81, especially in tourist season; it has one of the longest continuous 6+ lane sections of road in the state (55 miles from I-90 through Lake George) for a reason.

Very true. No disputing I-87 wins based on traffic volume, although I-81 passes through two upstate metros to I-87's one, and serves as the primary route from central and western NY to NYC.
I-75 in Michigan is a lot like I-87 is in New York. Both serve the largest city in the state and are used for the same type of travel. However I-75 goes down to four lanes north of Bay City and doesn't resume anything more than than four lanes north of that point. At the M-13 connector it goes from eight lanes down to four. I wouldn't say it needs to be six lanes for the rest of the state but at least to Gaylord and doesn't need anymore than four lanes in the U.P.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: vdeane on July 29, 2018, 04:39:31 PM
Quote from: webny99 on July 29, 2018, 12:10:13 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 28, 2018, 10:23:45 PM
Quote from: webny99 on July 28, 2018, 12:58:01 PM
Quote from: jemacedo9 on July 27, 2018, 08:28:40 PM
80's I'd go with I-87 over I-81, because NY City - Albany - Northway > Binghamton - Syracuse
Yeah, probably true, although I'd rather be biased towards upstate than downstate.  :-P
Albany is upstate!

Of course, but an argument for I-87 requires factoring in downstate. Without NYC and vicinity, it's pretty much a toss-up.

QuoteAnd yeah, the Northway gets a LOT more traffic than I-81, especially in tourist season; it has one of the longest continuous 6+ lane sections of road in the state (55 miles from I-90 through Lake George) for a reason.

Very true. No disputing I-87 wins based on traffic volume, although I-81 passes through two upstate metros to I-87's one, and serves as the primary route from central and western NY to NYC.
That's the great thing about I-87: it includes both.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: SD Mapman on July 29, 2018, 05:20:57 PM
SD:
1-10: SD 10 because SD doesn't do single digit routes
11-20: Probably US 14, as it hits Pierre and several other population centers (including Spearfish, which is obviously the most important)
21-30: I-29. No explanation necessary.
31-40: SD 34, the only EW cross-state state highway (SD 37 is a close second with the Mitchell to Huron 4-lane)
41-50: SD 43. Obviously. (but really SD 50 with the Yankton-I 29 4-lane)
51-60: SD 53. This one isn't a joke (there isn't anything else to choose from)
61-70: Coin flip between SD 63 and SD 65... and 63 wins.
71-80: SD 79 because Heartland Expressway
81-90: I-90. Again no explanation necessary.
91-100: these don't exist yet
101-110: SD 109 cause it's the longest
111-120: SD 115 because Sioux Falls
121-130: SD 127... a cross-state 3 digit route!
131-140: These have all died horrible deaths
141-150: SD 144! Akaska! Excitement!
151-160: SD 158 I think is actually signed properly
161-170: SD 168 in the middle of nowhere
171-180: I don't think they exist
181-190: US 183 finally something somewhat important (I-190 is sadly pointless)
191-200: Could not compute
201-210: SD 204, the Oahe Dam is scenic
211-220: US 212... I guess Watertown is interesting?
221-230: I-229 is flat
231-240: SD 240 ooh look tourists
241-250: SD 244. 'Murica.
251-260: SD 253?????????
261-270: SD 262 diagonals are fun
271-280: SD 273 because West River is better than East River
281-290: US 281 there's nothing else here
291-300: the Army requisitioned this one
301-310: Never existed ever
311-320: SD 314 has no competition
321-330: SD 324. Fun fact, I clinched this route on my bicycle.
331-340: nothing
341-350: still nothing
351-360: yup still nothing
361-370: I might see something on the horizon
371-380: SD 377. Don't get stuck in the gumbo
381-390: US 385... ATVs! RVs! Giant rocks!
391-400: SD 391, Pointless link #1
401-410: SD 407, Pointless link #2
411-420: back to nothing
421-430: there is nothing here go back to California
431-440: nothing here either
441-450: SD 445, Pete Lien to Blood Services
451-460: why did I make this section there's nothing here
461-470: see above
471-480: SD 473 because Lawrence County is better than Fall River County

The only other routes are the "River Roads", 1804 and 1806, but neither of those are important at all.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: wriddle082 on July 29, 2018, 05:28:10 PM
Quote from: Sctvhound on July 28, 2018, 10:57:39 PM
Quote from: wriddle082 on July 27, 2018, 09:39:45 PM
South Carolina

1-9:  I'm really struggling between US 1 and SC 9, but I'm thinking 9 has the edge since it's not supplanted by any interstates and it stays close to most of the northern border.
10-19:  US 17
20-29:  I-26
30-39:  I'd say SC 34 since it's fairly long going from Greenwood to Dillon.  But also SC 31 because it's an important freeway bypass of a bypass of Myrtle Beach, which could one day be an interstate.
40-49:  Either SC 41 because it's long or SC 49 because it serves suburban Charlotte.  SC 48 is also important since it runs along Columbia's Assembly Street and passes by the SC State House and USC.
50-59:  US 52
60-69:  I'll go with SC 64.
70-79:  I-77, but SC 72 gets honorable mention due to its improvements b/w GA and Clinton.
80-89:  I-85, duh!
90-99:  I-95, also duh!
100s: either US 123 because it goes through Clemson, or SC 151 since it's all four lanes from Pageland to Darlington and is an important piece of an improved link b/w Charlotte and Florence.
200s:  going with US 278 because it connects I-95 with Hilton Head Island.
300s:  IMO it's literally a three way tie b/w US 301, US 321, and I-385.
400s:  This one is tough.  I really don't think it's US 401 so I'm going with SC 460 since it's a new route and bypasses Fort Mill.
500s:  pretty sure it's US 501, but I-526 is also important.  Hmmm...
600s:  All I can think of is US 601 but I'm thinking there could be a better one?
700s:  I guess US 701, but maybe SC 768 because it's a shortcut from I-77 to US 76/378 towards Sumter.  Or SC 703 going from the foot of the Ravenel Bridge through Mt. Pleasant to Sullivan's Island.
800s:  wow, I can't even think of any SC primary routes in the 800s
900s:  SC 901, which is an underrated alternate route to I-77 from northern Fairfield County to the outskirts of Rock Hill.

I'll try to do Tennessee later.

Agree with most of yours. SC 61 could also be the most important in the 60s, since it connects all the historical plantations and is a major route in Charleston.

Ok I'll buy that!  I've had to go across most of 64 before and found it to be convenient, but 61's in Charleston so it gets more attention.

I thought of a better one for the 100's: US 176.  It more or less follows I-26 though it only gets close to it in the Columbia area, but I would consider it to be a good alternative to it, especially between St. Matthews and Goose Creek, where it skips just about everything, most notably the traffic!
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: SSOWorld on July 29, 2018, 08:15:09 PM
Taking a shot at WI:
0-9: TIE!!!: 2 and 8 cover important links well as the only two single-digit routes in WI (No state routes under 11).  2 bridges the UP with MN and 8 is a link with MSP to the UP.
10-19: 10 without a doubt.  takes central and western WI traffic to Appleton/Oshkosh (with US-45's help).
20-29: 29 is a major 4-lane expressway connecting MSP via Chippewa Falls with Green Bay and Wausau and a major E-W route.
30-39: 35 is quite the tourist line for running the rivers.  I-39 doesn't count - more later.
40-49: 41, both of them are self-explanatory as the city-side connection to 43's "express" to Green Bay
50-59: 51, Choosing 51 because 39 doesn't go beyond Wausau, but the route connects the UP with Illinois and beyond and links the tourist traps Manitowish and Minocqua
60-69: tough one.  67 connects many links to the Kettle Moraine scenic route.
70-79: 73 is a diagonal route that links major roads to back-road towns like Wis Rapids and Marshfield.
80-89: 83 is a nice local route in the southeast part of the state
90-99: 94, nuff said.
100-above: they're all short routes.  100 is a "belt" around Milwaukee. 441 is a SE belt around Appleton, 172 plays a shortcut south of GB.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Charles2 on July 29, 2018, 10:30:53 PM
Taking a stab at Alabama:

0-9: By default, it has to be AL-5.  All other single digit routes in Alabama are "hidden" designations for U.S. routes.

10-19: I-10, as it passes through the state's second largest metro area, Mobile.  Again, most routes numbered between 10-19 are hidden designations for U.S. routes.  The only significant routes in this range are AL-10, which goes from the Mississippi border to the Georgia border, but doesn't pass through any significant cities or towns.

20-29: I-20, since it passes through two of the state's largest metro areas, Tuscaloosa (200K+) and Birmingham (1.3M+), and serves as the route connecting Dallas and Atlanta.

30-39: U.S. 31.  Replaced in significance by I-65, but in Birmingham it's an important surface route connecting Birmingham with its southern and northern suburbs.

40-49: U.S. 43, almost by default.  It runs the length of the state along and near the Mississippi border, and is the shortest (though not quickest) route between Mobile and Tuscaloosa, then between Tuscaloosa and Florence.

50-59: I-59

60-69: I-65

70-79: U.S. 72

80-89: U.S. 84, by default

90-99: U.S. 98

Most three digit state routes in Alabama are minor connecting routes and have no true significance.

100-109: Nothing to see here

110-119: AL-119 - major connecting route in Birmingham's south suburbs

120-129: No major routes

130-139: AL-133 - connects Muscle Shoals and Florence

140-149: No major routes

150-159: AL-150 - connects the Birmingham suburbs of Bessemer and Hoover

160-167: I-165

170-179: No major routes

180-189: AL-180 & AL-182-routes along the beaches

190-199: AL-195: connecting route between Jasper and Florence/Muscle Shoals

200-209: AL-202: bypass route around Anniston between I-20 and US-431 north

210-219: AL-216: comes in handy on game days when Alabama is playing at Bryant-Denny.  This route parallels I-20/59.

220-229: No routes of importance come to mind

230-239: U.S. 231

240-249

250-259: AL-255: bypass around Huntsville

260-269: AL-261: connecting route between the Birmingham suburb of Helena and U.S. 31 and then I-65

270-279: U.S. 278 (by default)

280-289: U.S. 280

290-299

300-399: Very few choices, but probably U.S. 331

400-499: Very few choices, but I-459 is the obvious one

500-599: I-565

600-699: no routes, unless county roads count

700-799: I-759...it's the only route in the state with a 7xx number.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Eth on July 30, 2018, 08:31:40 AM
Quote from: Charles2 on July 29, 2018, 10:30:53 PM
Taking a stab at Alabama:

[...]

80-89: U.S. 84, by default

I'm admittedly not quite as familiar with Alabama as I am with Georgia, but I feel like US 82 could also be a contender, if only for the Montgomery-to-Tuscaloosa connection. Or maybe I-85, though it admittedly doesn't cross the whole state.

Quote600-699: no routes, unless county roads count

There are a couple. I probably wouldn't call, say, AL 605 (https://www.google.com/maps/@31.002549,-85.4076858,3a,75y,356.77h,94.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjFDv_lIaYLLh9CCPkdL9rA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) major or anything, but it exists.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: ipeters61 on July 30, 2018, 12:19:40 PM
Quote from: Alps on July 27, 2018, 11:07:53 PM
Delaware (oh boy):
1-9: DE 1
10-19: US 13
20-29: DE 20; 24 a close second
30-39: DE 30
40-49: US 40, honorable mention to DE-41 since it serves Wilmington-Lancaster traffic and seems to be a major truck route
50-59: DE 54
60-69: DE 62 is the only choice
70-79: DE 71
80-89: DE 82 is the only choice
90-99: I-95
100+: US 301, with honorable mentions to I-295, US 113, and DE 896

1-9: Concur, obviously
10-19: Concur, obviously
20-29: I'd say 24 is more important than 20, but that's based on what my coworkers have told me about Sussex County.
30-39: Concur
40-49: Concur
50-59: Concur
60-69: No choice but to concur  :-P
70-79: I'd argue for DE-72 since it serves Newark which, I think, is a more significant town than Middletown (which DE-71 serves).  Further, it provides the most direct link between Newark/Bear and DE-1 for Dover/beach-Newark traffic.  DE-71 doesn't really serve as significant of a purpose, in my opinion.  Prior to the opening of DE-1 and the population boom in Middletown, however, I would place DE-71 in first place in this regard, since it would have been the most direct link between Newark and Middletown to Dover and the beaches.
80-89: No choice but to concur
90-99: Concur, obviously
100+: Concur on US-301, I-295, DE-896 (though the significance of DE-896 might dwindle after the construction of the US-301 expressway - I think 896 is important now because it not only provides an alternative Middletown-DE-1 link, but also provides an alternative Dover/beach-Newark link), but I think I-495 deserves an honorable mention as well since it's a heavily traveled bypass of Wilmington and serves the Port of Wilmington.

EDIT: However, there are very few 100+ roads in DE.  202 and 141 are both very important regionally because they connect Wilmington's western suburbs to Philly's western suburbs.  This might not seem like a big deal but they carry very heavy commuter traffic.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: TXtoNJ on July 30, 2018, 02:01:08 PM
TX:

1-9: Loop 1, MoPac Expressway
10-19: I-10
20-29: I-20
30-39: I-35
40-49: I-45
50-59: US 59
60-69: Will be I-69 once done, but until then, US 67
70-79: US 75
80-89: US 87
90-99: US 90

100s: SH 121
200s: US 290
300s: SH 360
400s: I-410
500s: FM 529
600s: I-610
700s: FM 734
800s: I-820
900s: Not many of importantce
1000+: Loop 1604
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: hotdogPi on July 30, 2018, 02:06:50 PM
Quote from: TXtoNJ on July 30, 2018, 02:01:08 PM
600s: RM 620

I-635
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: TXtoNJ on July 30, 2018, 03:13:52 PM
Quote from: 1 on July 30, 2018, 02:06:50 PM
Quote from: TXtoNJ on July 30, 2018, 02:01:08 PM
600s: RM 620

I-635

Updated.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Super Mateo on July 30, 2018, 06:10:22 PM
I know reply #3 already covers IL, but I'm going to do my own list, plus a market specific list.

Illinois:

0-9:  IL 9.  Goes border to border, but doesn't shadow an Interstate like US 6.
10-19:  IL 17.  A "weak" category as it wins by default.
20-29:  US 20, which is the only route that runs from Chicago to the NW corner of IL.
30-39:  US 30, because of its history, but honorable mention to US 34.
40-49:  IL 47, a growing corridor that's getting expanded.
50-59:  I-55, narrowly beating out I-57 as it hits more major areas, even though I-57 is longer in the state.
60-69:  US 67, the road that perfectly shows what western IL has to offer.
70-79:  I-70, because I can't think of others...
80-89:  I-80, the road I practically got my driver's license on.
90-99:  I-90, Chicago's major link to Rockford.

Chicagoland:

0-9:  US 6, running through quite a few suburbs south of the city.
10-19:  US 12, a busy corridor that needs an expansion at the north end.
20-29:  US 20, which covers a wide range of Chicago suburbs.
30-39:  US 30, I guess.  The only other routes are IL 31 and 38.
40-49:  US 41, going right through downtown Chicago.
50-59:  I-55, but I-57 and IL 53 are quality honorable mentions.
60-69:  I-65, an absolutely vital link between Chicagoland and Indianapolis.
70-79:  IL 72 is the only route I can think of...
80-89:  IL 83, connects the north and south suburbs.  I-80 is more important to through traffic.
90-99:  I-94, including the Edens, a large portion of the Kennedy, the Dan Ryan, the Calumet, the Kingery, and the Borman Expressways, and carries more traffic than any road I've traveled.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: ilpt4u on July 30, 2018, 07:46:45 PM
Quote from: Super Mateo on July 30, 2018, 06:10:22 PM
I know reply #3 already covers IL, but I'm going to do my own list, plus a market specific list.

Illinois:

0-9:  IL 9.  Goes border to border, but doesn't shadow an Interstate like US 6.
10-19:  IL 17.  A "weak" category as it wins by default.
20-29:  US 20, which is the only route that runs from Chicago to the NW corner of IL.
30-39:  US 30, because of its history, but honorable mention to US 34.
40-49:  IL 47, a growing corridor that's getting expanded.
50-59:  I-55, narrowly beating out I-57 as it hits more major areas, even though I-57 is longer in the state.
60-69:  US 67, the road that perfectly shows what western IL has to offer.
70-79:  I-70, because I can't think of others...
80-89:  I-80, the road I practically got my driver's license on.
90-99:  I-90, Chicago's major link to Rockford.

Chicagoland:

0-9:  US 6, running through quite a few suburbs south of the city.
10-19:  US 12, a busy corridor that needs an expansion at the north end.
20-29:  US 20, which covers a wide range of Chicago suburbs.
30-39:  US 30, I guess.  The only other routes are IL 31 and 38.
40-49:  US 41, going right through downtown Chicago.
50-59:  I-55, but I-57 and IL 53 are quality honorable mentions.
60-69:  I-65, an absolutely vital link between Chicagoland and Indianapolis.
70-79:  IL 72 is the only route I can think of...
80-89:  IL 83, connects the north and south suburbs.  I-80 is more important to through traffic.
90-99:  I-94, including the Edens, a large portion of the Kennedy, the Dan Ryan, the Calumet, the Kingery, and the Borman Expressways, and carries more traffic than any road I've traveled.
I'm going to do the Out-State/non-Chicagoland IL list
0-9: IL 1
10-19: IL 13. IL 17 is an interesting competitor, but 13 is more important to Southern IL vs 17 for Northern Central IL. IL 15 is also a contender, but it tends to parallel I-64, mostly.
20-29: US 24 - Giving Western IL some love, linking Peoria to Quincy. Also East out if Peoria, is used as a route to get to I-55 and Chicago. US 20 almost - while existing in Chicagoland, it is a major route across the whole of Northern IL
30-39: US 36
40-49: IL 47. Possibly outer fringe of Chicagoland, but far enough out here. US 45 is my other thought. IL 40 is a major route in Peoria and also considered
50-59: I-55. I really want to answer US 51, but it is hard to make the claim it is more important than I-55 or I-57 with a straight face. If the US 51/I-39 freeway were extended from Bloomington-Normal to Salem, then maybe, but still probably not.
60-69: I-64. Giving Southern IL the love on this one, over US 67 for Western IL
70-79: I-70. I-74 is probably more important for Intrastate travel, as well as major IL Employers like State Farm, Caterpillar, and John Deere, as well as Universities including Univ of IL, IL St Univ, and Western IL Univ
80-89: I-80. Does exist in Chicagoland, but is a vital trans-IL link, in addition to transcontinental
90-99: IL 92. Hard choice here, staying away from I-90 and I-94. Picked IL 92, since it serves Downtown Moline-Rock Island, and also John Deere. IL 94 or 96 were considered, serving Western IL Mississippi River Communities
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: myosh_tino on July 31, 2018, 03:44:02 AM
Quote from: Quillz on July 29, 2018, 02:16:21 AM
CA, Pt. 2

150-159: 154 would be my pick. Originally part of a longer 150, 154 is the San Marcos Pass Road and is often used as an alternate to 101. It skips the Gaviota coast entirely and gives alternate access to Solvang (a popular tourist town) and direct access to Los Olivos (one of the important Santa Barbara Wine Country towns). It would be more useful if it could bypass Santa Barbara entirely (doing this requires taking 192 in addition).

I would offer up CA-152 which runs from Watsonville to CA-99 north of Madera via Gilroy and Los Banos.  It is also a vital corridor that connects Silicon Valley/Santa Clara County to I-5 which Caltrans has gradually been upgrading to expressway standards between 101 and I-5.  CA-152 is also one of 3 routes that connect southern Santa Clara County to the coast (129 and 156 are the others).
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 31, 2018, 09:45:31 AM
Quote from: myosh_tino on July 31, 2018, 03:44:02 AM
Quote from: Quillz on July 29, 2018, 02:16:21 AM
CA, Pt. 2

150-159: 154 would be my pick. Originally part of a longer 150, 154 is the San Marcos Pass Road and is often used as an alternate to 101. It skips the Gaviota coast entirely and gives alternate access to Solvang (a popular tourist town) and direct access to Los Olivos (one of the important Santa Barbara Wine Country towns). It would be more useful if it could bypass Santa Barbara entirely (doing this requires taking 192 in addition).

I would offer up CA-152 which runs from Watsonville to CA-99 north of Madera via Gilroy and Los Banos.  It is also a vital corridor that connects Silicon Valley/Santa Clara County to I-5 which Caltrans has gradually been upgrading to expressway standards between 101 and I-5.  CA-152 is also one of 3 routes that connect southern Santa Clara County to the coast (129 and 156 are the others).

I had 152 on mine, Pacheco Pass is the most used pass in the Diablos until 46 to the south and I-580 to the north. 
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: froggie on July 31, 2018, 11:37:59 AM
Quote from: hbelkinsI wouldn't exactly say 42 has "import," although it is a scenic drive (I've clinched all three segments).

Farther away from you, it does.  The northern segment can and is a useful (and less stressful) alternative to the I-81/US 11 corridor.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: bzakharin on August 01, 2018, 09:28:23 AM
Quote from: Alps on July 27, 2018, 10:52:31 PM
30-39: I would select 31. It serves a major role in a corridor with no other roads. 33 is close, but parts of it are less important. You could also argue 35...
NJ 38 seems to be the canonical way to get from Philly to the NJ Turnpike
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40-49: Concur, though 40 and 47 are close.
There is no route paralleling US 40 up until it joins in with 322 and gets close to the AC Expressway. US 46 is paralleled closely by I-80 the entire way
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700-799: There is only NJ 700.
There are 700 series county routes as well and those are signed (unlike NJ 700)
CR 706 in Camden and Gloucester counties wins on sheer length (13.1 miles) since most of the 700 series roads are only 1-2 miles.

Middlesex County also has CR 807 which would be the only contender for 800-899
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: ipeters61 on August 01, 2018, 09:31:09 AM
Quote from: bzakharin on August 01, 2018, 09:28:23 AM
Quote from: Alps on July 27, 2018, 10:52:31 PM
30-39: I would select 31. It serves a major role in a corridor with no other roads. 33 is close, but parts of it are less important. You could also argue 35...
NJ 38 seems to be the canonical way to get from Philly to the NJ Turnpike
At least until the I-95/PA Turnpike interchange is complete.  But I agree on NJ-31 being a major route.

EDIT Plus, there are other ways to get to the NJ Turnpike from Philly, bearing in mind that people are slaves to the GPS nowadays.  Typing into Google now, it suggests taking NJ-90 to NJ-73 (96 miles, 116 minutes for Philly to NYC), even though NJ-38 is a slightly shorter route when heading north to the NJ Turnpike (94 miles, 116 minutes for Philly to NYC)...plus 38 is more direct, avoiding 95 in PA entirely.  I know when taking Greyhound from Philly to NYC, they've always taken NJ-38 to the NJ Turnpike, if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: jeffandnicole on August 01, 2018, 10:06:17 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on August 01, 2018, 09:31:09 AM
Quote from: bzakharin on August 01, 2018, 09:28:23 AM
Quote from: Alps on July 27, 2018, 10:52:31 PM
30-39: I would select 31. It serves a major role in a corridor with no other roads. 33 is close, but parts of it are less important. You could also argue 35...
NJ 38 seems to be the canonical way to get from Philly to the NJ Turnpike
At least until the I-95/PA Turnpike interchange is complete.  But I agree on NJ-31 being a major route.

EDIT Plus, there are other ways to get to the NJ Turnpike from Philly, bearing in mind that people are slaves to the GPS nowadays.  Typing into Google now, it suggests taking NJ-90 to NJ-73 (96 miles, 116 minutes for Philly to NYC), even though NJ-38 is a slightly shorter route when heading north to the NJ Turnpike (94 miles, 116 minutes for Philly to NYC)...plus 38 is more direct, avoiding 95 in PA entirely.  I know when taking Greyhound from Philly to NYC, they've always taken NJ-38 to the NJ Turnpike, if I remember correctly.

Rt. 38 doesn't connect directly with the NJ Turnpike, so that route alone doesn't work.  Most likely, if leaving Philly on the Ben Franklin Bridge, they may have taken Rt. 30 to Rt. 38 to Rt. 73, which connects with Exit 4 of the NJ Turnpike.  The bus could also stay on Rt. 38 until I-295, then take that north to Exit 47A (Rt. 541 to NJ Turnpike Exit 5), Exit 56 (NJT Exit 7) or Exit 60 (195 to NJ Turnpike Exit 7A).  The choice probably largely is based on starting/ending points in the city, congestion, other stops, etc. 

Of course, it greatly depends where you are in Philly.  In most cases, it makes sense to stay off of I-95, unless the driver needs to connect to 76 or 676.  Bus drivers using the Walt Whitman Bridge may I-76 East to I-295 North to Exit 28 (Rt. 168 to NJ Turnpike's Exit 3, or stay on I-295 North to Exit 36A (Rt. 73 to NJ Turnpike Exit 4), or any of the exits listed above.

As for Rt. 31 being more important than 33, I'll give some credit to that one. It was on my radar, but knowing how much traffic 33 gets I gave it to them (traffic counts seem to be similar or slightly favor 31 though).
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: bzakharin on August 01, 2018, 10:35:37 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 01, 2018, 10:06:17 AM
Rt. 38 doesn't connect directly with the NJ Turnpike, so that route alone doesn't work.  Most likely, if leaving Philly on the Ben Franklin Bridge, they may have taken Rt. 30 to Rt. 38 to Rt. 73, which connects with Exit 4 of the NJ Turnpike. 
Oh, I know. I was just simplifying. NJ 38 is the bulk of that distance, and in the 30-39 range. US 30 is too, but it comprises a much shorter portion of the route.
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The bus could also stay on Rt. 38 until I-295, then take that north to Exit 47A (Rt. 541 to NJ Turnpike Exit 5), Exit 56 (NJT Exit 7) or Exit 60 (195 to NJ Turnpike Exit 7A).  The choice probably largely is based on starting/ending points in the city, congestion, other stops, etc. 
Greyhound has a major bus stop right at Exit 4 which influences the route. Bolt bus from Philly to NYC stops right on NJ 38 near the Cherry Hill Mall, though I think the existence of that stop is a happy coincidence of being a fairly useful point on the already fastest route.
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Of course, it greatly depends where you are in Philly.  In most cases, it makes sense to stay off of I-95, unless the driver needs to connect to 76 or 676.  Bus drivers using the Walt Whitman Bridge may I-76 East to I-295 North to Exit 28 (Rt. 168 to NJ Turnpike's Exit 3, or stay on I-295 North to Exit 36A (Rt. 73 to NJ Turnpike Exit 4), or any of the exits listed above.
Or they can use NJ 90 to NJ 73 if they are coming from Northeast Philly. I am not aware of any major carriers doing so, however.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Henry on August 01, 2018, 10:45:17 AM
Since IL and CA were already covered, I'll do WA.

0-9: I-5 or US 2
10-19: US 12 or SR 16
20-29: SR 20
30-39: SR 31
40-49: SR 41
50-59: N/A
60-69: N/A
70-79: N/A
80-89: I-82
90-99: I-90 or SR 99

100s: US 101 or SR 167
200s: SR 290
300s: SR 397
400s: I-405 or SR 410
500s: SR 520
600s: N/A
700s: I-705
800s: N/A
900s: SR 904
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: djlynch on August 01, 2018, 03:55:10 PM
Quote from: TXtoNJ on July 30, 2018, 02:01:08 PM
TX:

1-9: Loop 1, MoPac Expressway

You know you're from Austin when it doesn't even come to mind when you're trying to think of numbered highways :D. I was going to go for SH 6 as the only state highway to go from one edge of the state to the other via the long way.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: plain on August 01, 2018, 06:15:41 PM
For the 20's in New Jersey, NJ 29 should get an honorable mention.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: dvferyance on August 01, 2018, 07:17:07 PM
Here is my take on Wisconsin
1-9 US 8 covers more ground than US 2 no single digit state highways
10-19 US 10 although WI 11 US 12 and WI 13 are quite major as well
20-29 WI-29 hands down
30-39 WI-35 it's the longest state highway WI-32 and WI-33 also cross the state
40-49 I-41 or US-41 For state highways WI-42 becasue it serves Door County
50-59 On this one I will pick WI 54 becasue US 51 is a minor route south of Portage
60-69 Tie between WI-60 and WI-64 both cross the state
70-79 WI-70
80-89 Tie between WI-80 and WI-81
90-99 I-94 For state highways WI-95
100-109 WI-100 Milwaukee County beltline
110-119 WI-110 although none of them are major
120-129 WI-120 continuation of IL-47
130-139 WI-131
140-149 US-141
150-159 US-151 hands down
160-169 WI-164 major N-S route in the west Milwaukee suburbs
170-179 WI-172 Not very long but major route in the Green Bay area
180-189 WI-181 Not much to pick from here but this one is a major route in the Milwaukee area
190-199 WI-190 Also known as Capitol Dr.
Not many routes above 200 most major of them WI-441
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: hotdogPi on August 01, 2018, 10:00:23 PM
Greyhound uses NJ 73, not NJ 38.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Flint1979 on August 01, 2018, 10:45:08 PM
Extended on mine for Michigan since I only did routes 0-99. I'll go above that now.

101-110: I'll go with M-102. It's 8 Mile Road on the Detroit border and runs between I-94 in Harper Woods and M-5 on the Livonia/Farmington Hills border.

111-120: I really would like to say M-119 it's the Tunnel of Trees north of Harbor Springs but I think M-117 in the U.P. which is one of the connections between US-2 and M-28 is above that. There are 10 routes in the U.P. that connect US-2 and M-28.

121-130: I'll go with M-123. It serves the Tahquamenon Falls area. There really isn't another good choice.

131-140: M-134. Doesn't really serve a very populated area but it's basically the only highway running east and west in the very eastern part of the U.P.

141-150: I'd have to go with M-142. It's a short cut across the thumb with a terminus at M-25 on both ends.

151-160: M-153 by far. This is the actual continuation of 0 Mile Road in the Detroit mile road system. It's called Ford Road and east of McGraw at the Dearborn-Detroit city line the 0 Mile continuation is Michigan Avenue (US-12).

161-170: There aren't any routes in Michigan between these numbers.

171-180: There is only one route (M-179) so obviously that's the winner. It serves the Yankee Springs area and runs between US-131 and M-37/M-43.

181-190: M-185. The loop around Mackinac Island and the only state highway in the U.S. to have a ban on automobiles.

191-200: I-196 by far. Connects the Grand Rapids area to I-94 near Benton Harbor.

201-210: This one is hard. M-203 is the longest highway in this range and only 17 miles long connecting Hancock to McLain State Park. M-204 is part of the Leelanau Scenic Heritage Route.

211-220: This range includes Michigan's shortest state highway M-212 and there isn't a significant route in this range.

221-230: Really none of them. M-221, M-222, M-227 are the only three. I would say M-222 connecting Allegan to US-131.

231-240: M-231 is the newest state highway unless another one has opened since 2015 and it is basically a scaled down version of a bypass route for US-31. M-239 would also get some votes for this one though as it connects I-94 to the Michigan/Indiana state line and connects to Indiana State Route 39 just outside of La Porte, Indiana.

241-250: M-247 is the only route in this range. It was once a part of M-47 but is now scaled down to this and M-47 uses US-10's old routing between Saginaw and Midland. M-13 and M-84 are also former parts of M-47. M-247 connects Bay City State Park to M-13.

271-280: I-275 by default.

291-300: M-294 in the Battle Creek area.

311-320: M-311 is the only route in this range. It's in the Battle Creek area.

331-340: M-331 is the only one in this range and it's an unsigned highway in Kalamazoo. At one time this route was a part of US-131.

371-380: I-375 I guess. I hate that highway though because it's one of the freeways that isolates downtown Detroit from the rest of the city.

471-480: I-475 being the only one and serving the Flint area.

491-500: I-496 being the only one and serving the Capital Area.

551-560: M-553 is the only highway in this range formerly a county road serving the Marquette area in the U.P. there use to be a M-554 that ended at M-553 it was less than a mile long and only lasted about 7 years before being turned back to local control.

671-680: I-675 in the Saginaw area is the only highway within this range. It's main purpose for being built was to bypass the old Zilwaukee Bridge which was a drawbridge. When the drawbridge was in the up position it would back traffic up on I-75 for miles. The longest backup that I know of from this bridge being in the up position was backed up all the way to Birch Run, a distance of about 17 miles so I-675 was an important highway serving as a freeway connection to downtown Saginaw and also as a bypass of the old bridge. The new Zilwaukee Bridge is 125 feet high and is a fixed span, this bridge had a major construction accident when it was being built and is now 30 years old.

691-700: I-696, an east-west northern beltline of Detroit. At one time this highway had two sections with the middle section still needing to be completed but now it's one of the busiest highways in the state.








Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 01, 2018, 11:16:29 PM
Quote from: webny99 on July 27, 2018, 07:25:49 PM
Twenties: US 20. NY 28 is definitely a competitor.
As much as I might be biased towards Long Island, I'd really have to go with NY 22 as the competitor with US 20.

Quote from: webny99 on July 27, 2018, 07:25:49 PM
Nineties: I-99, because why not?
Is it finished within New York yet? Because I'm still leaning towards I-95.


Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: wxfree on August 02, 2018, 01:36:59 AM
Texas will be fun to write an answer for.

What's the most important FM road in the range of 2870 through 2879?

It would take 350 10-point ranges, plus one to decide between 3550 and 3551.  FMs 4000 and 7550 would win by default because for some reason they're isolated on the numbering system.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: webny99 on August 02, 2018, 08:35:32 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 01, 2018, 11:16:29 PM
Quote from: webny99 on July 27, 2018, 07:25:49 PM
Nineties: I-99, because why not?
Is it finished within New York yet? Because I'm still leaning towards I-95.

I-99 is complete and designated from I-86 south to the PA line.
However, my response of I-99 was made completely in jest. I-90 definitely takes the cake, and I-95 is a distant second. I-99 probably isn't even third - that honor goes to NY 96. Even NY 98 is much longer - though not necessarily more important - than I-99.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: doorknob60 on August 02, 2018, 04:30:35 PM
Guess I can try Idaho

0-9: US-2
10-19: I-15
20-29: US-20
30-39: ID-33 (US-30 honorable mention)
40-49: ID-41
50-59: ID-55
60-69: ID-69 or ID-67 (can't pick; 69 is an important suburban commuter route, 67 provides access to Mountain Home AFB)
70-79: ID-75
80-89: I-84
90-99: US-95. Sorry I-90, you're too short in Idaho.

There's only 5 highways 100-200 (6 if you count US-195, which I guess technically counts). Out of them, I-184 wins.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: MantyMadTown on August 07, 2018, 11:32:40 PM
Quote from: SSOWorld on July 29, 2018, 08:15:09 PM
Taking a shot at WI:
0-9: TIE!!!: 2 and 8 cover important links well as the only two single-digit routes in WI (No state routes under 11).  2 bridges the UP with MN and 8 is a link with MSP to the UP.
10-19: 10 without a doubt.  takes central and western WI traffic to Appleton/Oshkosh (with US-45's help).
20-29: 29 is a major 4-lane expressway connecting MSP via Chippewa Falls with Green Bay and Wausau and a major E-W route.
30-39: 35 is quite the tourist line for running the rivers.  I-39 doesn't count - more later.
40-49: 41, both of them are self-explanatory as the city-side connection to 43's "express" to Green Bay
50-59: 51, Choosing 51 because 39 doesn't go beyond Wausau, but the route connects the UP with Illinois and beyond and links the tourist traps Manitowish and Minocqua
60-69: tough one.  67 connects many links to the Kettle Moraine scenic route.
70-79: 73 is a diagonal route that links major roads to back-road towns like Wis Rapids and Marshfield.
80-89: 83 is a nice local route in the southeast part of the state
90-99: 94, nuff said.
100-above: they're all short routes.  100 is a "belt" around Milwaukee. 441 is a SE belt around Appleton, 172 plays a shortcut south of GB.

South of Portage US 51 is separated from I-39 pretty much the entire route from Portage to Illinois. I would just use I-39 for that entire route.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Flint1979 on August 08, 2018, 12:30:06 PM
Quote from: MantyMadTown on August 07, 2018, 11:32:40 PM
Quote from: SSOWorld on July 29, 2018, 08:15:09 PM
Taking a shot at WI:
0-9: TIE!!!: 2 and 8 cover important links well as the only two single-digit routes in WI (No state routes under 11).  2 bridges the UP with MN and 8 is a link with MSP to the UP.
10-19: 10 without a doubt.  takes central and western WI traffic to Appleton/Oshkosh (with US-45's help).
20-29: 29 is a major 4-lane expressway connecting MSP via Chippewa Falls with Green Bay and Wausau and a major E-W route.
30-39: 35 is quite the tourist line for running the rivers.  I-39 doesn't count - more later.
40-49: 41, both of them are self-explanatory as the city-side connection to 43's "express" to Green Bay
50-59: 51, Choosing 51 because 39 doesn't go beyond Wausau, but the route connects the UP with Illinois and beyond and links the tourist traps Manitowish and Minocqua
60-69: tough one.  67 connects many links to the Kettle Moraine scenic route.
70-79: 73 is a diagonal route that links major roads to back-road towns like Wis Rapids and Marshfield.
80-89: 83 is a nice local route in the southeast part of the state
90-99: 94, nuff said.
100-above: they're all short routes.  100 is a "belt" around Milwaukee. 441 is a SE belt around Appleton, 172 plays a shortcut south of GB.

South of Portage US 51 is separated from I-39 pretty much the entire route from Portage to Illinois. I would just use I-39 for that entire route.
Then south of where it breaks from US-51 it only has about 10-15 miles before it starts it's multiplex with I-90 and I-94.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: MantyMadTown on August 08, 2018, 04:23:28 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on August 08, 2018, 12:30:06 PM
Quote from: MantyMadTown on August 07, 2018, 11:32:40 PM
Quote from: SSOWorld on July 29, 2018, 08:15:09 PM
Taking a shot at WI:
0-9: TIE!!!: 2 and 8 cover important links well as the only two single-digit routes in WI (No state routes under 11).  2 bridges the UP with MN and 8 is a link with MSP to the UP.
10-19: 10 without a doubt.  takes central and western WI traffic to Appleton/Oshkosh (with US-45's help).
20-29: 29 is a major 4-lane expressway connecting MSP via Chippewa Falls with Green Bay and Wausau and a major E-W route.
30-39: 35 is quite the tourist line for running the rivers.  I-39 doesn't count - more later.
40-49: 41, both of them are self-explanatory as the city-side connection to 43's "express" to Green Bay
50-59: 51, Choosing 51 because 39 doesn't go beyond Wausau, but the route connects the UP with Illinois and beyond and links the tourist traps Manitowish and Minocqua
60-69: tough one.  67 connects many links to the Kettle Moraine scenic route.
70-79: 73 is a diagonal route that links major roads to back-road towns like Wis Rapids and Marshfield.
80-89: 83 is a nice local route in the southeast part of the state
90-99: 94, nuff said.
100-above: they're all short routes.  100 is a "belt" around Milwaukee. 441 is a SE belt around Appleton, 172 plays a shortcut south of GB.

South of Portage US 51 is separated from I-39 pretty much the entire route from Portage to Illinois. I would just use I-39 for that entire route.
Then south of where it breaks from US-51 it only has about 10-15 miles before it starts it's multiplex with I-90 and I-94.

But would you consider it to be the same route because of it? I think that the split of US 51 is important enough for it to be a separate route. If it was merged with I-39 all the way I would make the case for it to be the same route and the most important route in that range. But people take I-39 from Beloit all the way to Wausau, not 51.

As for the part of I-39 where it merges with I-90 and 94, I would still consider those separate interstates and it doesn't make I-39 "part" of those two interstates. They just share the same route. Doesn't make I-39 any less important. If anything it should make I-39 more important because it also carries traffic from those two routes.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: sparker on August 08, 2018, 05:27:08 PM
Max and Quillz did such a good and extensive job of covering CA; don't have any major additions or modifications.  The only thing I'd offer is to elevate I-15's ranking over I-10 for the following reasons:  I-15 functions as a regional collector from L.A.'s port region as well as the various industrial/distribution centers scattered around the area to the west; it collects traffic from CA 91, CA 60, I-10, and I/CA-210 and shoots it over Cajon Pass to both I-40 and its own northern reaches.  And a case could be made for I-15 and I-40 as part of the principal commercial route from L.A. and its ports to all points east except the very southern tier.  I-10 obviously retains 2nd place in the grouping, but its value as a commercial conduit is largely confined to that tier.  And west of I-15, as mentioned earlier, there are three other major corridors delivering traffic to I-15 from the west besides I-10.  Once it has distributed WB traffic to CA 60, CA 91 (via I-215 south) or CA 210, I-10 is just another E-W L.A. metro freeway. 
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Flint1979 on August 08, 2018, 11:15:56 PM
Quote from: MantyMadTown on August 08, 2018, 04:23:28 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on August 08, 2018, 12:30:06 PM
Quote from: MantyMadTown on August 07, 2018, 11:32:40 PM
Quote from: SSOWorld on July 29, 2018, 08:15:09 PM
Taking a shot at WI:
0-9: TIE!!!: 2 and 8 cover important links well as the only two single-digit routes in WI (No state routes under 11).  2 bridges the UP with MN and 8 is a link with MSP to the UP.
10-19: 10 without a doubt.  takes central and western WI traffic to Appleton/Oshkosh (with US-45's help).
20-29: 29 is a major 4-lane expressway connecting MSP via Chippewa Falls with Green Bay and Wausau and a major E-W route.
30-39: 35 is quite the tourist line for running the rivers.  I-39 doesn't count - more later.
40-49: 41, both of them are self-explanatory as the city-side connection to 43's "express" to Green Bay
50-59: 51, Choosing 51 because 39 doesn't go beyond Wausau, but the route connects the UP with Illinois and beyond and links the tourist traps Manitowish and Minocqua
60-69: tough one.  67 connects many links to the Kettle Moraine scenic route.
70-79: 73 is a diagonal route that links major roads to back-road towns like Wis Rapids and Marshfield.
80-89: 83 is a nice local route in the southeast part of the state
90-99: 94, nuff said.
100-above: they're all short routes.  100 is a "belt" around Milwaukee. 441 is a SE belt around Appleton, 172 plays a shortcut south of GB.

South of Portage US 51 is separated from I-39 pretty much the entire route from Portage to Illinois. I would just use I-39 for that entire route.
Then south of where it breaks from US-51 it only has about 10-15 miles before it starts it's multiplex with I-90 and I-94.

But would you consider it to be the same route because of it? I think that the split of US 51 is important enough for it to be a separate route. If it was merged with I-39 all the way I would make the case for it to be the same route and the most important route in that range. But people take I-39 from Beloit all the way to Wausau, not 51.

As for the part of I-39 where it merges with I-90 and 94, I would still consider those separate interstates and it doesn't make I-39 "part" of those two interstates. They just share the same route. Doesn't make I-39 any less important. If anything it should make I-39 more important because it also carries traffic from those two routes.
Honestly, south of Rockford I don't see any reason to have it called I-39 over US-51 since it's the same route. The route of I-39 being an Interstate doesn't make much sense, you could have the whole thing called US-51, at Rockford you have I-90 than I-94 at Madison so US-51 wouldn't need to follow those routes and north of Beloit it could follow it's current route and have the stretch between I-90/94 and where US-51 and I-39 split north of Portage called an I-x90 or I-x94 odd number to that split then US-51 north of it. You get to Wassau and the freeway just stops being I-39 and continues as the same type of freeway north of there as US-51. So I'm saying the entire route of I-39 except for the short stretch between I-90/94 and the US-51 split north of Portage should be US-51. What's funny is that I-39, I-41 and I-43 are all east of much of I-55's routing, the only part of I-55 that isn't east of them is between Springfield and Chicago.

I like US-51 it follows I-55 for a long time too and goes through some run down cities.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: MantyMadTown on August 08, 2018, 11:39:09 PM
Yeah that pretty brings up the point that the interstate numbering is very weird in lots of areas. There should be a renumbering scheme in place to make sure the interstates are numbered in their proper location.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Flint1979 on August 09, 2018, 12:21:26 AM
Quote from: MantyMadTown on August 08, 2018, 11:39:09 PM
Yeah that pretty brings up the point that the interstate numbering is very weird in lots of areas. There should be a renumbering scheme in place to make sure the interstates are numbered in their proper location.
You could but that would bring up a lot of confusion I think. Actually with the exception of the stretch around Portage, I-39 shares a route with at least one other route number in it's entirety. Another thing, north of Portage where does it get it's exit numbers from because they are not based on the mileage of I-39, the first exit north of the split is 84 and it's at I-39's mile 79 in the state.

I guess I just don't understand why a highway is signed as an Interstate for 100 miles then just stops being an Interstate when the routing of a US highway multiplexes it for the entire length except for the 8 mile stretch around Portage. It seems more like one of the longer 3-di's than a mainline Interstate. The freeway keeps going for another 50 miles to just north of US-8 and I wouldn't have it be a freeway all the way to Hurley but I still think it should just be US-51 and not I-39 at all but keep the freeway.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on August 09, 2018, 12:32:30 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on August 09, 2018, 12:21:26 AM
Another thing, north of Portage where does it get it's exit numbers from because they are not based on the mileage of I-39, the first exit north of the split is 84 and it's at I-39's mile 79 in the state.

US 51?
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Flint1979 on August 09, 2018, 12:38:06 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on August 09, 2018, 12:32:30 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on August 09, 2018, 12:21:26 AM
Another thing, north of Portage where does it get it's exit numbers from because they are not based on the mileage of I-39, the first exit north of the split is 84 and it's at I-39's mile 79 in the state.

US 51?
Really? This is on a stretch where it's not multiplexed with US-51.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: froggie on August 09, 2018, 06:55:05 AM
If it's not concurrent with US 51, it's not north of Portage.  Are you referring to where 39 is adjacent to or south of Portage?  In that case, they'd be based off of WI 78, as that's what it was between 90/94 and 51 on the north side of Portage before I-39 was extended.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on August 09, 2018, 11:37:17 AM
Quote from: froggie on August 09, 2018, 06:55:05 AM
If it's not concurrent with US 51, it's not north of Portage.  Are you referring to where 39 is adjacent to or south of Portage?  In that case, they'd be based off of WI 78, as that's what it was between 90/94 and 51 on the north side of Portage before I-39 was extended.

I'm not sure WIS 78 fits either, as it's 92 miles in length and the first I-39 exit beyond the Cascade is Exit 84.

Maybe it's just another US 10-type hackjob.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Flint1979 on August 09, 2018, 01:17:24 PM
Ok I did some further reading up on I-39 and it's mileage is indeed based on US-51 north of Portage. Wisconsin SR-78 is 92 miles long and the first exit is 84 so I'm not thinking it was based on that highway's mileage.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: tribar on August 09, 2018, 01:36:46 PM
Quote from: MantyMadTown on August 08, 2018, 11:39:09 PM
Yeah that pretty brings up the point that the interstate numbering is very weird in lots of areas. There should be a renumbering scheme in place to make sure the interstates are numbered in their proper location.

No they shouldn't. Why waste the time and money to change countless signs and potentially confuse locals by changing roads they're familiar with just so the grid can be perfect? It's never going to be perfect.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Flint1979 on August 09, 2018, 01:53:26 PM
Quote from: tribar on August 09, 2018, 01:36:46 PM
Quote from: MantyMadTown on August 08, 2018, 11:39:09 PM
Yeah that pretty brings up the point that the interstate numbering is very weird in lots of areas. There should be a renumbering scheme in place to make sure the interstates are numbered in their proper location.

No they shouldn't. Why waste the time and money to change countless signs and potentially confuse locals by changing roads they're familiar with just so the grid can be perfect? It's never going to be perfect.
Creating I-41 was equally as time wasting.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Flint1979 on August 09, 2018, 04:39:46 PM
I can't remember what post this was in but either yesterday or the day before I noticed that upon entering Illinois from Indiana on I-80/94 exit 160 appears before 161 does and we all know that the exit numbers increase as you are going east so the last exit in Illinois should have the highest number. However exit 160 appears before 161 does and looking at the sign I thought to myself I bet the exit ramp for 160 is before 161 and sure enough that's the case. So why are the numbers backwards there? This is obviously I-80's mileage in the state since I-80 is 163 miles in Illinois to I-94's 77 miles. And then for some odd reason it uses I-294's mileage along the I-80/294 multiplex.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on August 09, 2018, 08:38:13 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on August 09, 2018, 01:17:24 PM
Ok I did some further reading up on I-39 and it's mileage is indeed based on US-51 north of Portage. Wisconsin SR-78 is 92 miles long and the first exit is 84 so I'm not thinking it was based on that highway's mileage.

I think this was a sensible move so you don't suddenly have mileposts shifting by about 5, which could cause confusion with regard to road safety.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: stchuckroadgeek on August 14, 2018, 10:04:46 PM
For Missouri here is my take(although slightly St. Louis centric).

0-9 - MO 5 -  Lake of Ozarks enough said
10 - 19 - MO 19
20 - 29 - I-29
30 - 39 - I-35
40 - 49 - Statewide I-44, St. Louis - Highway Farty
50 - 59 - I-55
60 - 69 - US 63
70 - 79 - I-70 - KC to STL enough said
80 - 89 - Nothing that I know
90 to 99 - MO 94 - Major Suburban Route in St. Louis Area
100 to 109 - MO 100 - Manchester Road and also parts of old US 66
110 to 169 - MO 115
170 to 179 - I-170
180 to 199 - MO 180
200 to 299 - I-270
300 to 399 - MO 370
400 to 499 - I-435
500 to 599 - None
600 to 699 - I-670



Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: hotdogPi on August 14, 2018, 10:06:33 PM
Quote from: stchuckroadgeek on August 14, 2018, 10:04:46 PM
100 to 109 - MO 100 - Manchester Road and also parts of old US 66
110 to 169 - MO 115
170 to 179 - I-170
180 to 199 - MO 180

That's not how ranges work.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: apeman33 on August 15, 2018, 06:23:52 PM
I guess I can try Kansas:

1-9: None of the routes that exist go through an especially important town except K-4, which goes through Topeka. So I guess that by default.
10-19: K-10 without a doubt.
20-29: U.S. 24
30-39: I-35
40-49: The parts of U.S. 40 that aren't concurrent with I-70.
50-59: The part of U.S. 50 that aren't concurrent with I-35 or I-435
60-69: U.S. 69
70-79: I-70
80-89: U.S. 83 since U.S. 81 is mostly concurrent with I-135.
90-99: The part of K-96 that remains because the only place of importance K-99 passes through is Emporia.
100-109: None of these routes are very long. I'm picking K-105 over K-102 or K-103 but they are probably of equal importance.
110-119: K-113 due to its function as a bypass of Manhattan.
120-129: K-126, the pick in a range without a really important route.
130-139: I-135
140-149: K-140
150-159: K-156
160-169: A close call but I'm going with U.S. 169
170-179: K-177
180-189: U.S. 183
190-199: K-196
200-209: K-204 (the only other one is K-209)
210-219: None of the routes in this range is longer than two miles and they're all spurs that lead into small towns. Therefore, K-211, K-214, K-215, K-216 and K-218 (the ones that currently exist) are all tied.
220-229: K-223 and K-228, the only ones that currently exist, are tied.
230-239: I-235
240-249: Like most of the 200s so far, all these routes are extremely short. The longest is 6 miles. However, K-249 wins because of its function as a shortcut between K-99 and K-58 in Madison.
250-259: K-254
260-269: More K-spurs, the longest about 8 miles. Tie for K-260, K-261, K-264, K-266, K-267 and K-268.
270-279: U.S. 270 has no real importance since it only exists in Kansas because Oklahoma won't truncate the redundant part of it in the northwest part of the state. K-276, K-278 and K-279 are short spurs, so a 3-way tie with those.
280-289: Tough call between U.S 281 and U.S. 283. The edge might go to 281 because it goes through a couple of more important towns.
290-299: There were only ever two and they don't exist anymore.
300-399: I-335
400-499: There is U.S. 400, I-435 and I-470. That's it. And I'd argue they're equally important because of their functions. However, even though I don't have anything against the number, U.S. 400 west of Wichita is a joke. That leaves I-435 and I-470 and in that case, I'd argue I-435 is much, much more important.
And the rest: The only numbers higher than 470 in Kansas are I-635 and I-670. I-670 is very short on the Kansas side, so it's 635 by default.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: SCtoKC on August 15, 2018, 07:27:24 PM
Quote from: apeman33 on August 15, 2018, 06:23:52 PM
I guess I can try Kansas:

1-9: None of the routes that exist go through an especially important town except K-4, which goes through Topeka. So I guess that by default.

K-7 goes through Kansas City and the surrounding suburbs of the Metro.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: mgk920 on August 16, 2018, 10:55:14 AM
Quote from: SSOWorld on July 29, 2018, 08:15:09 PM
Taking a shot at WI:
0-9: TIE!!!: 2 and 8 cover important links well as the only two single-digit routes in WI (No state routes under 11).  2 bridges the UP with MN and 8 is a link with MSP to the UP.
10-19: 10 without a doubt.  takes central and western WI traffic to Appleton/Oshkosh (with US-45's help).
20-29: 29 is a major 4-lane expressway connecting MSP via Chippewa Falls with Green Bay and Wausau and a major E-W route.
30-39: 35 is quite the tourist line for running the rivers.  I-39 doesn't count - more later.
40-49: 41, both of them are self-explanatory as the city-side connection to 43's "express" to Green Bay
50-59: 51, Choosing 51 because 39 doesn't go beyond Wausau, but the route connects the UP with Illinois and beyond and links the tourist traps Manitowish and Minocqua
60-69: tough one.  67 connects many links to the Kettle Moraine scenic route.
70-79: 73 is a diagonal route that links major roads to back-road towns like Wis Rapids and Marshfield.
80-89: 83 is a nice local route in the southeast part of the state
90-99: 94, nuff said.
100-above: they're all short routes.  100 is a "belt" around Milwaukee. 441 is a SE belt around Appleton, 172 plays a shortcut south of GB.

My list for Wisconsin:

0-9 - US 8 has a very long presence in the state, it gets my nod.  US 2 is almost an afterthought.
10-19 - There are several pretty important routes in this range, but US 10 gets the nod, it's the most major of them.
20-29 - Again, there are many important routes here, but I agree, WI 29 hands down.
30-39 - WI 30 used to be the major road between Milwaukee and Madison, but it was supplanted by I-94 in the 1950s and 1960s.  I-39 is the most important now.
40-49 - I-41, no contest.
50-59 - US 53 gets my vote here, as US 51 has largely been supplanted.
60-69 - US 61 is the major north-south route in the southwestern part of the state and gets a slight edge from me over cross-state WI 64.
70-79 - There are not many important routes in this range, but WI 70 stands out for me.
80-89 - WI 81 is the most major in this range.
90-99 - I-94.  Gobs and gobs of traffic on its entire length in the state.
100-150 - US 141 is the biggest here.
151-199 - US 151 is a very important inter-regional route over most of its length in the state.
200-499 - WI 441 is a major freeway over its entire length.
500 and higher - I-894.  Yes, it is paired with other I-routes on its entire length, but many people still use it to navigate.
Lettered county highways - Dodge County 'A'.  IMHO, the part between US 151 and WI 26 just east of Beaver Dam is the very best two-lane highway in the entire state and I have no doubt that it has aspirations of being much more than it is now.  It serves as a bypass for an old, raggy, substandard part of WI 26 to carry through traffic between the I-39/90 corridor at the Illinois state line and the Fox Valley/NE Wisconsin.

Mike
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: mvak36 on August 28, 2018, 01:07:53 PM
My try at Nebraska

0-9: US6 (although NE2 (both segments) comes close)
10-19: NE15
20-29: US20
30-39: US30 (east of Grand Island. It's pretty close to I-80 West of there)
40-49: NE41
50-59: NE50
60-69: NE61
70-79: (tie) US75 and US77
80-89: I-80
90-99: NE92
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: pianocello on August 29, 2018, 08:07:41 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on August 09, 2018, 04:39:46 PM
I can't remember what post this was in but either yesterday or the day before I noticed that upon entering Illinois from Indiana on I-80/94 exit 160 appears before 161 does and we all know that the exit numbers increase as you are going east so the last exit in Illinois should have the highest number. However exit 160 appears before 161 does and looking at the sign I thought to myself I bet the exit ramp for 160 is before 161 and sure enough that's the case. So why are the numbers backwards there? This is obviously I-80's mileage in the state since I-80 is 163 miles in Illinois to I-94's 77 miles. And then for some odd reason it uses I-294's mileage along the I-80/294 multiplex.

This is off-topic, but I can answer your question, since I've gone through this stretch countless times over the last 20 years. You're right that exits 160 and 161 are following I-80's mileage, the westbound off-ramp for 160 just happens to be before the off-ramp for 161 because of a reconstruction that happened in the early- to mid-00's to cut down on weaving. IDOT still wanted to keep the interchanges consistent (160 to I-94/IL-394 and 161 to Torrence Ave). To your other point, I'm pretty sure I-294's mileage is only used in its multiplex with I-80 because that's what ISTHA wanted to do.

But yeah, this is way off-topic. If someone needs to move this elsewhere, go for it.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: apeman33 on August 29, 2018, 10:21:22 PM
Quote from: SCtoKC on August 15, 2018, 07:27:24 PM
Quote from: apeman33 on August 15, 2018, 06:23:52 PM
I guess I can try Kansas:

1-9: None of the routes that exist go through an especially important town except K-4, which goes through Topeka. So I guess that by default.

K-7 goes through Kansas City and the surrounding suburbs of the Metro.

I caught myself in a trap. K-7 down here is either concurrent with U.S. 69 or a glorified cow path. I forget that it goes through the metro.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Laplace on October 09, 2018, 12:49:46 PM
My attempt at Arizona:

0-9: I-8 (Only contender, but still an important freeway nonetheless. Serves traffic from San Diego to I-10)
10-19: I-10 (Obvious choice, since it serves both Phoenix and Tucson)
20-29: SR 24 (tiny, but it's the only one)
30-39: I don't believe we have one, although there is a proposed SR 30
40-49: I-40 (Again, obvious choice)
50-59: AZ 51 (Major Phoenix Freeway)
60-69: US 60 (Major transcontinental highway in central part of the state)
70-79: AZ 77 (Serves much of the eastern part of AZ)
80-89: US 89 or AZ 80 (tie)
90-99: US 95/AZ 95 (The only major north/south road in Western AZ, US 93 is a close second)

Above 100: Loop 101, Loop 202 (Major Phoenix freeways), US 191 (serves much of eastern AZ)
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: riiga on October 09, 2018, 05:31:21 PM
For Sweden

0-9: E 4 (The most important road, the backbone of Sweden that connects the north with the south, including most coastal cities north of Stockholm)
10-19: E 18 (Important East-West connection)
20-29: E 22 (Connects the entire east coast south of Norrköping where it joins the E 4)
30-39: 34 (Inlands north-south route in the southern parts)
40-49: 40 (Can be seen as an extension of the E 4 connecting Gothenburg (second largest city) with it)
50-59: 50 (Inlands backbone with lots of freight traffic, also connects with the E 4)
60-69: 66 (Inlands connection with Norway)
70-79: 70 (Another inlands connection with Norway)
80-89: 84 (Yet another connection with Norway)
90-99: 95 (Connection with Norway)
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: MantyMadTown on October 10, 2018, 05:30:40 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on August 16, 2018, 10:55:14 AM
Quote from: SSOWorld on July 29, 2018, 08:15:09 PM
Taking a shot at WI:
0-9: TIE!!!: 2 and 8 cover important links well as the only two single-digit routes in WI (No state routes under 11).  2 bridges the UP with MN and 8 is a link with MSP to the UP.
10-19: 10 without a doubt.  takes central and western WI traffic to Appleton/Oshkosh (with US-45's help).
20-29: 29 is a major 4-lane expressway connecting MSP via Chippewa Falls with Green Bay and Wausau and a major E-W route.
30-39: 35 is quite the tourist line for running the rivers.  I-39 doesn't count - more later.
40-49: 41, both of them are self-explanatory as the city-side connection to 43's "express" to Green Bay
50-59: 51, Choosing 51 because 39 doesn't go beyond Wausau, but the route connects the UP with Illinois and beyond and links the tourist traps Manitowish and Minocqua
60-69: tough one.  67 connects many links to the Kettle Moraine scenic route.
70-79: 73 is a diagonal route that links major roads to back-road towns like Wis Rapids and Marshfield.
80-89: 83 is a nice local route in the southeast part of the state
90-99: 94, nuff said.
100-above: they're all short routes.  100 is a "belt" around Milwaukee. 441 is a SE belt around Appleton, 172 plays a shortcut south of GB.

My list for Wisconsin:

0-9 - US 8 has a very long presence in the state, it gets my nod.  US 2 is almost an afterthought.
10-19 - There are several pretty important routes in this range, but US 10 gets the nod, it's the most major of them.
20-29 - Again, there are many important routes here, but I agree, WI 29 hands down.
30-39 - WI 30 used to be the major road between Milwaukee and Madison, but it was supplanted by I-94 in the 1950s and 1960s.  I-39 is the most important now.
40-49 - I-41, no contest.
50-59 - US 53 gets my vote here, as US 51 has largely been supplanted.
60-69 - US 61 is the major north-south route in the southwestern part of the state and gets a slight edge from me over cross-state WI 64.
70-79 - There are not many important routes in this range, but WI 70 stands out for me.
80-89 - WI 81 is the most major in this range.
90-99 - I-94.  Gobs and gobs of traffic on its entire length in the state.
100-150 - US 141 is the biggest here.
151-199 - US 151 is a very important inter-regional route over most of its length in the state.
200-499 - WI 441 is a major freeway over its entire length.
500 and higher - I-894.  Yes, it is paired with other I-routes on its entire length, but many people still use it to navigate.
Lettered county highways - Dodge County 'A'.  IMHO, the part between US 151 and WI 26 just east of Beaver Dam is the very best two-lane highway in the entire state and I have no doubt that it has aspirations of being much more than it is now.  It serves as a bypass for an old, raggy, substandard part of WI 26 to carry through traffic between the I-39/90 corridor at the Illinois state line and the Fox Valley/NE Wisconsin.

Mike

I wonder if Dodge County A could be a new routing of WIS 26. Like if WIS 26 becomes a 4-lane expressway, it could be upgraded along highway A instead of the current routing of 26. We could take this over to the Wisconsin thread or the fictional highways board if you wanna talk more about this.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: epzik8 on October 10, 2018, 06:28:53 PM
Someone probably did Maryland already, but here's my version:

0-9: U.S. 1, Washington-Baltimore-Pennsylvania state line.
10-19: U.S. 13, on the lower Eastern Shore.
20-29: MD-26, a Frederick-Baltimore connector.
30-39: MD-32, Westminster-Millersville; a freeway in the Columbia-Odenton corridor.
40-49: U.S. 40, goes across the entire length of the state, Garrett-Cecil County.
50-59: U.S. 50, Washington-Annapolis-Kent Island-Easton-Salisbury-Ocean City.
60-69: I-68, the National Freeway, an alternate counterpart to the Pennsylvania Turnpike.
70-79: I-70, Hancock-Hagerstown-Frederick-Baltimore.
80-89: I-83, the connector between Baltimore and Harrisburg, PA.
90-99: I-95 by a mile. Probably Maryland's busiest highway; connects Washington to Baltimore and Baltimore to Wilmington, DE.
100-149: MD-100, an important freeway through Howard and Anne Arundel counties.
150-199: I-195, the connector between UMBC and BWI.
200-249: MD-200, the Inter-County Connector, roughly connecting Gaithersburg and Laurel.
250-299: MD-295, as the Baltimore-Washington Parkway is designated from I-95 exit 52 to the MD-175 interchange at Jessup.
300-349: U.S. 301, covering southern Maryland, Annapolis-Bay Bridge-Kent Island, and the Upper Eastern Shore.
350-399: MD-355, the business route parallel to I-270, connecting Frederick with Washington, DC.
400-449: MD-404, the route to the Delaware beaches and an alternate for U.S. 50 to Ocean City.
450-499: MD-450, the parallel business route to U.S. 50/301/unsigned I-595, between about Bladensburg and the Naval Academy in Annapolis.
500 and up: I-695, the Baltimore Beltway.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Eth on October 10, 2018, 07:18:00 PM
Quote from: epzik8 on October 10, 2018, 06:28:53 PM
450-499: MD-450, the parallel business route to U.S. 50/301/unsigned I-595, between about Bladensburg and the Naval Academy in Annapolis.

Surely it's got to be I-495?
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: SSOWorld on October 10, 2018, 07:51:33 PM
 :sombrero: :sombrero:
Quote from: mgk920 on August 16, 2018, 10:55:14 AM

...

My list for Wisconsin:

40-49 - HWY-41, no contest.

...

Mike
FTFY!!!  :) :sombrero: :sombrero:
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: Mark68 on October 11, 2018, 06:10:17 PM
I'll give CO a whirl:

0-9:          US 6 (467 miles from UT to NE, connecting Grand Jct, Eagle/Vail, Denver, NE Colorado)
10-19:      CO 14 (237 miles from US 40 to Ft Collins and Sterling)
20-29:      I-25 (Duh!)
30-39:      Pretty much a tie between US 34 & US 36. 34 begins at US 40 in Granby, crosses the Continental Divide in Rocky Mtn NP on its way to Estes Park, Loveland, Greeley, Ft Morgan and Nebraska. US 36 begins at 34 in Estes, down to Boulder, Denver, and east to Kansas. Very heavily traveled from Boulder to Aurora.
40-49:      US 40 (Colfax Ave is the main street in Denver), but US 40 also connects to Utah, Steamboat, Limon, & Kansas.
50-59:      US 50 (Grand Jct, Montrose, Gunnison, Canon City, Pueblo, Las Animas, Lamar)
60-69:      CO 62 (The best route between Ouray & Telluride). I would have said CO 67 if it weren't in 3 segments.
70-79:      I-70 (Double duh!)
80-89:      US 87 (j/k). US 85
90-99:      CO 96
100-109:  CO 105 (I guess--even though it's split in two--Douglas County Rd 105 connects the two segments.
110-119:  CO 119 (The southern 7 miles is the heavily traveled main route to the casinos in Black Hawk, the rest is a scenic drive thru the Front Range mountains to Boulder, then the heavily traveled Diagonal to Longmont & I-25).
120-129:  CO 121 Wadsworth Blvd/Pkwy thru the western Denver suburbs
130-139:  (tie) CO 135 (the only paved road to Crested Butte) & CO 131 (the most direct route between I-70 & Steamboat Springs). There is US 138, which parallels I-76 in the NE corner of Colorado.
140-149:  (tie) CO 141 (the best route from Grand Jct to the south) & CO 145 (short cut from CO 141 to Cortez/Mesa Verde NP)
150-159:  CO 157 (Boulder's eastern bypass--Foothills Pkwy)
160-169:  US 160 (Four Corners, Cortez, Mesa Verde, Durango, Alamosa, Walsenburg, Trinidad, Springfield)
170-199:  CO 177 (South Broadway in Denver Metro)
200-299:  (tie) US 285 & US 287 US 285 heads SW from I-25 in Denver thru the foothill suburbs, South Park, the San Luis Valley, and into NM. US 287 heads SW from Laramie, WY through Ft Collins, Loveland, Longmont, metro Denver before heading SE toward Limon (concurrent with I-70) then south toward Lamar, Springfield, and the Oklahoma panhandle.
300-399:  US 385 (parallels the eastern border from Julesburg to the OK border)
400-499:  (tie) CO 470 (SW loop of Denver, continues as E-470 toll road that forms the eastern half of the loop) & US 491 (former US 666--cuts thru the SW corner of Colorado, passes thru Cortez)
500+:      US 550 (The scenic "Million Dollar Highway: from Montrose south thru Ouray, Silverton, Durango to the NM border. Also known as a major portion of the San Juan Scenic Byway).
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: SkyPesos on February 01, 2021, 12:45:36 PM
Old thread, but Ohio hasn't been done yet, so I'll contribute.

1-9: OH 2 (Honorable mentions: OH 7 and OH 8)
10-19: OH 16 (Honorable mention: OH 11)
20-29: US 23
30-39: US 35 (Difficult choice since most of the state's expressway routes are in this range. US 30, US 33 and OH 32 would be next in that order after US 30)
40-49: US 42
50-59: US 50
60-69: US 62
70-79: I-71 (Like with the 30s, difficult choice since most of the state's 2di are in this range. I-75, I-70 and I-77 would be next in that order after I-71)
80-89: I-80 (OH 83 if I-80 and I-90 can't both be picked due to their long concurrency)
90-99: I-90

For the rest of the numbers, I'll do them in ranges of 50. Blank spots are ones I currently don't have a choice for yet, and will fill it in later.
100-149: OH 126
150-199: OH 161
200-249: US 223224
250-299: I-270 (Honorable mention: I-275)
300-349: OH 315
350-399:
400-449: US 422
450-499: I-480 (Honorable mention: I-475)
500-549:
550-599: OH 562
600-649:
650-699: I-675 (Honorable mention: I-670)
700-749: OH 741
750-799:
800-872:
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: JCinSummerfield on February 01, 2021, 02:05:36 PM
I won't re-hash Michigan's, but some left off the 3 Michigan lists include US-2, M-37, M-52, M-57 & M-66.  There were some tough choices to be made there.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: zzcarp on February 01, 2021, 04:38:53 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on February 01, 2021, 12:45:36 PM
Old thread, but Ohio hasn't been done yet, so I'll contribute.

1-9: OH 2 (Honorable mentions: OH 7 and OH 8)
10-19: OH 16 (Honorable mention: OH 11)
20-29: US 23
30-39: US 35 (Difficult choice since most of the state's expressway routes are in this range. US 30, US 33 and OH 32 would be next in that order after US 30)
40-49: US 42
50-59: US 50
60-69: US 62
70-79: I-71 (Like with the 30s, difficult choice since most of the state's 2di are in this range. I-75, I-70 and I-77 would be next in that order after I-71)
80-89: I-80 (OH 83 if I-80 and I-90 can't both be picked due to their long concurrency)
90-99: I-90

For the rest of the numbers, I'll do them in ranges of 50. Blank spots are ones I currently don't have a choice for yet, and will fill it in later.
100-149: OH 126
150-199: OH 161
200-249: US 223224
250-299: I-270 (Honorable mention: I-275)
300-349: OH 315
350-399:
400-449: US 422
450-499: I-480 (Honorable mention: I-475)
500-549:
550-599: OH 562
600-649:
650-699: I-675 (Honorable mention: I-670)
700-749: OH 741
750-799:
800-872:

For your blanks:
350-399: OH 357. The only state highway on South Bass Island (Put-in-Bay)
500-549: OH 511. Runs from Oberlin through Ashland to near Perrysville.
600-649: OH 613. Runs from the Indiana line to Fostoria (former OH 113).
750-799: OH 795. It's an expressway between I-75 and I-280 and a popular local shunpiking route between the two freeways.
800-872: OH 800. It's old Ohio 8 from Canton to the Ohio River.

For consideration:
10-19: OH 18 - Indiana line through Akron, OH 14 Cleveland to PA on the way to Pittsburgh, OH 13 Lake Erie to Athens. It's tough to narrow this one down.
20-29: US 20 should be in the running as well as US 22. OH 21 and US 24 as honorable mentions. Lots of good choices in this category.
60-69: OH 60 could be an honorable mention: Vermilion on Lake Erie to Marietta on the Ohio River
250-299: US 250 should be in consideration. It runs from Sandusky to the Ohio River across from Wheeling.  I-271, the eastern bypass of Cleveland, should also get an honorable mention.
300-349: OH 309 should get an honorable mention. It's former US 30S between Lima and Mansfield and quite well-traveled.
550-599: OH 550 should have its hat in the ring. It's former US 50A and runs from Athens to OH 7 at the river.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: CoreySamson on February 01, 2021, 07:17:31 PM
Texas up to 1000:
1-9: SH-6
10-19: I-10
20-29: I-20
30-39: I-35
40-49: I-45
50-59: US-59
60-69: I-69
70-79: US 77
80-89: US 83
90-99: US 90
100-109: SH-105
110-119: I-110
120-129: SH-121
130-139: SH-130
140-149: SH-146
150-159: SH-155
160-169: SH-161
170-179: US 175
180-189: US 183
190-199: US 190
200-249: SH-249
250-299: US 281
300-349: I-345
350-399: US 377
400-449: I-410
450-499: SH 495
500-599: SH 550
600-699: I-610
700-799: FM 730
800-899: I-820
900-999: FM-922
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: JayhawkCO on February 01, 2021, 07:17:49 PM
No one ever does Wyoming, so here goes:

1-9: Does not exist
10-19: US14 - The eastern gateway to Yellowstone
20-29: I-25 - The spine of Wyoming
30-39: US30 - Although concurrent with I-80 for a long way, it provides a shortcut to the PNW through Kemmerer
40-49: Does not exist (Although, similar to another thread we have, you could say US40 is important although it doesn't enter the state)
50-59: WYO59 - Second longest state highway which serves Douglas & Gillette
60-69: Does not exist
70-79: WYO70 - Connection in southern Wyoming over Battle Pass and barely crosses into Colorado at one point
80-89: I-80 - 18-Wheeler central
90-99: I-90 - The grand daddy of interstates
100-109: Does not exist
110-119: WYO110 - The shortest in this range, but it's the road that takes you to Devil's Tower
120-129: WYO120 - Third longest state highway connecting Themopolis to Montana
130-139: WYO130 - Snowy Range road.  One of the prettiest drives in the state
140-149: Does not exist
150-159: WYO151 - One of the few in this range that doesn't look "gerrymandered".  Connects to NE88
160-169: WYO160 - Again, the shortest in the range, but provides entry to the Fort Laramie Historic Site
170-179: WYO175 - Not a ton to choose from in this range, but provides access to a city (Kirby, pop. 57) whereas all the others end nowhere in particular
180-189: US189 - Basically the western alternative to US191 (sorry I-180)
190-199: US191 - The other southern gateway to Yellowstone
200-209: Does not exist
210-219: US212 - Darn near the prettiest drive in the U.S. (Beartooth Highway)
220-229: WYO220 - Connect Casper with US287
230-239: WYO230 - Connects Saratoga and Laramie with points in western Colorado
240-249: WYO240 - A quick shortcut between US30 West and US189 North
250-259: WYO257 - A western loop of Casper
260-269: Does not exist
270-279: WYO270 - Seventh longest state highway.  Provides access to Guernsey State Park.
280-289: US287 - Is concurrent with other routes for a lot of its time in Wyoming, but is part of the quickest way from Denver to Yellowstone
290-299: WYO296 - Chief Joseph Highway.  Gorgeous drive connecting Cody to the Beartooth Highway.
300-309: Does not exist
310-319: US310 - Provides non-mountain grade access from north-central Wyoming towards Billings
320-329: WYO321 - BL25 in Chugwater
330-339: WYO336 - Is one of the exits for Sheridan
340-349: WYO345 - Formerly US87 and this was the last piece of US87 decommissioned when it was moved to I-90
350-359: WYO351 - Connects the Big Piney-Rock Springs corridor
360-369: Does not exist
370-379: WYO372 - Connects the Big Piney-Rock Springs corridor
380-389: WYO387 - Quickest way between Casper and Gillette
390-399: WYO390 - Quickest way from Jackson to Teton Village
400-409: Does not exist
410-419: WYO414 - Western entrance to the Flaming Gorge area
420-429: Does not exist
430-439: WYO430 - Connects western Colorado to Rock Springs
440-449: Does not exist
450-459: WYO450 - Connects Newcastle to points west through the Thunder Basin Grassland
460-469: Does not exist
470-479: Does not exist
480-489: WYO487 - Fastest way from Laramie to Casper
490-499: Does not exist
...
520-529: Does not exist
530-539: WYO530 - Route between Green River and Flaming Gorge
540-549: Does not exist
...
570-579: Does not exist
580-589: WYO585 - Fastest route for those heading east on I-90 to the southern part of the Black Hills
590-599: Does not exist
...
770-779: Does not exist
780-789: WYO789 - Longest state highway, although largely redundant with concurrencies everywhere

Wow.  I just got through that.

Chris
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: hotdogPi on February 01, 2021, 07:25:35 PM
Quote from: jayhawkco on February 01, 2021, 07:17:49 PM
<sic>

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: JayhawkCO on February 01, 2021, 08:35:13 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 01, 2021, 07:25:35 PM
Quote from: jayhawkco on February 01, 2021, 07:17:49 PM
<sic>

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Inconceivable.  I'll edit to ... :)

Chris
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on February 01, 2021, 09:00:21 PM
Aww hell, let's keep going on MN.

110-119: MN 115 serves Camp Ripley, that's all I got since MN 110 is gone.
120-129: MN 120 with Century Avenue being a well-known local arterial.
130-139: MN 135 by default.
140-149: MN 149 by default.
150-159: MN 156 by default.
160-169: US 169
170-179: MN 171, as it's the de facto north end of US 75.
180-189: no routes
190-199: MN 194 beats out MN 197 by being a major arterial in a bigger city.
200-209: MN 200
210-219: US 212
220-229: MN 220
230-239: MN 238 just for being the longest in the bracket.
240-249: MN 241 by default.
250-259: MN 252
260-269: boy we're really scraping here, MN 263
270-279: they all suck
280-289: MN 280
290-299: F
300-309: U
310-319: MN 316
320-329: C
330:339: MN 336
340-349: K
350-359: I
360-369: N
370-379: MN 371
390-389: G
390-399: I-394
490-499: I-494
610-619: MN 610
690-699: I-694
Title: Re: Your state’s most important highway in each range?
Post by: ahj2000 on February 01, 2021, 10:21:47 PM
Virginia:
1-9: US 1. Of course. (Although perhaps something could be said for VA 7, connecting the most Northern VA)
10-19: US 15. 13 only matters to the Delmarva and 17 is of less import the the function of the state as a whole.
20-29: US 29.
30-39: US 33 kind of acts as a slightly more northern I 64.
40-49: I guess VA 40. VA doesn't have anything TOO significant in here, 40, which passes through not a lot, is the longest stage route.
50-59. I'd argue US 58 here. Much more useful for the state as a whole than US 50, which kind of isn't that necessary when VA 7 and I-66 with either US 17 or I 81 makes it a little unnecessary for that NOVA-Winchester flow
60-69: I-64. Connects the 2nd and 3rd largest
70-79. I suppose I 77, although if we're only counting utility within the state and not to other states, it'd probably be VA 76.
80-89: I 85
90-99: 95.

I'll add 3 digit routes sometime later.