Heading to a local Stop & Shop in Berlin, CT, I noticed that the signage at this location had been changed from the Ahold/Giant purple and yellow logo to a newer stylized version of the retro logo. Makes me wonder if other Ahold stores will follow suit and if it's an image update that went along with the Delhaize merger. Here is a shot:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1974/44272203914_9537b82fe4_n.jpg)
I work at Stop & Shop. A few things in the store still have the old logo, including the "mart carts" (hybrid wheelchairs/carriages for people who can't walk easily) and several items in the back where only workers are allowed.
I didn't realize that they were changing to an updated old logo; I thought they were just going back to the old one with no changes.
Also, I thought that every bank inside a Stop & Shop was a Citizens Bank. The Stop & Shop radio advertises that they have a Citizens Bank inside the store, and I thought the radio was standardized across stores.
Citizen's "footprint" in Connecticut is mainly in the southern three counties (New London, New Haven, and Fairfield.)
Good riddance to that old logo. I welcome the stoplight's return.
Quote from: 1 on September 29, 2018, 07:23:29 PM
I work at Stop & Shop. A few things in the store still have the old logo, including the "mart carts" (hybrid wheelchairs/carriages for people who can't walk easily) and several items in the back where only workers are allowed.
I didn't realize that they were changing to an updated old logo; I thought they were just going back to the old one with no changes.
Also, I thought that every bank inside a Stop & Shop was a Citizens Bank. The Stop & Shop radio advertises that they have a Citizens Bank inside the store, and I thought the radio was standardized across stores.
Do your supervisors treat you and your fellow employees kindly? Ours on the Cape seemed to need to be trained in that artform.
Quote from: CapeCodder on September 30, 2018, 06:21:29 PM
Quote from: 1 on September 29, 2018, 07:23:29 PM
I work at Stop & Shop. A few things in the store still have the old logo, including the "mart carts" (hybrid wheelchairs/carriages for people who can't walk easily) and several items in the back where only workers are allowed.
I didn't realize that they were changing to an updated old logo; I thought they were just going back to the old one with no changes.
Also, I thought that every bank inside a Stop & Shop was a Citizens Bank. The Stop & Shop radio advertises that they have a Citizens Bank inside the store, and I thought the radio was standardized across stores.
Do your supervisors treat you and your fellow employees kindly? Ours on the Cape seemed to need to be trained in that artform.
From my viewpoint, yes, but some other people have had a few problems with some of them.
Quote from: 1 on September 30, 2018, 09:28:15 PM
Quote from: CapeCodder on September 30, 2018, 06:21:29 PM
Quote from: 1 on September 29, 2018, 07:23:29 PM
I work at Stop & Shop. A few things in the store still have the old logo, including the "mart carts" (hybrid wheelchairs/carriages for people who can't walk easily) and several items in the back where only workers are allowed.
I didn't realize that they were changing to an updated old logo; I thought they were just going back to the old one with no changes.
Also, I thought that every bank inside a Stop & Shop was a Citizens Bank. The Stop & Shop radio advertises that they have a Citizens Bank inside the store, and I thought the radio was standardized across stores.
Do your supervisors treat you and your fellow employees kindly? Ours on the Cape seemed to need to be trained in that artform.
From my viewpoint, yes, but some other people have had a few problems with some of them.
I just remember most of the employees at my store were in sour moods. Two of the cardboard guys weren't allowed to be in the store while the other was there, as they would make the back room their personal boxing ring and fight each other. If it were up to me, I'd fire the lot and replace them with people who actually give a shit about their jobs. I worked front end. Courtesy clerk. That was an adventure in of itself.
Can they go retro on their prices? Stop and Shop is the most expensive grocery store in our area...
I don't shop at Ahold stores, but if the company is indeed switching to old signage for Stop & Shop, I have to wonder why. From what I've seen, Ahold seemed to have been standardizing many marketing and operating assets between the company's various brands over the past decade or so. Is this a sign that the new "common brand" lost some of the traction that the old standalone brands had?
Giant-Landover and Giant-Carlisle have kept their separate marquee logos, but I heard the following explanation for that: Giant-Landover's workforce is unionized whereas Giant-Carlisle's is not, and therefore Ahold needs to keep a very clear separation between these two subsidiaries to contain the unionization of the workforce. I don't know whether this is true or not (and not familiar enough with labor law to be certain that it's a relevant concern anyway). But the awkward clunkiness of both Giants' identities always made me suspect that Ahold had long-term plans to somehow combine the two into a single operating unit under the "fruitbowl" logo once all of the complications had been sorted out.
I worked in that Berlin, CT store until April. All that work wrapped up last week or so (the last being the paint job under the new sign). I don't know if the signs at the Farmington Avenue (CT Route 372) entrance were changed yet.
As for other locations, I could check on their store on Corbin Avenue in New Britain.
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on October 01, 2018, 03:27:12 PM
I worked in that Berlin, CT store until April. All that work wrapped up last week or so (the last being the paint job under the new sign). I don't know if the signs at the Farmington Avenue (CT Route 372) entrance were changed yet.
As for other locations, I could check on their store on Corbin Avenue in New Britain.
The Massirio Dr entrance signs were changed. Didn't check out the Farmington Ave sign. The store in Southington hasn't shown any outward signs of change, although I learned they are now a model store from when I was shopping in there a couple months ago and about 300 people were touring the place. Never saw the store so stocked and clean. But yeah, Stop & Shop's prices have gone way up. Feel like I'm in Fairfield County when I shop there. Shop Rite has lower prices now, but Big Y is usually the highest, even higher than Stop & Shop.
Market Baskets a decent alternative to Stop and Shop in Massachusetts.
To update on the Berlin, CT Stop & Shop (a.k.a. the Evil Ampersand)...the entrance signs for the Farmington Avenue entrance, along with the gas station price sign, are changed out. Also, they were adding some H&R Block-style lime green paint above the main entrance (bottle room side).
I always liked this old Stop & Shop logo (from 1963).
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Quote from: PHLBOS on October 04, 2018, 10:59:28 AM
I always liked this old Stop & Shop logo (from 1963).
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Screams 60's. It does look pretty cool.
It's too bad the the blog Pleasant Family Shopping is dead. It seems like it'd be pretty popular among us aa-roadsters.
Quote from: PHLBOS on October 04, 2018, 10:59:28 AM
I always liked this old Stop & Shop logo (from 1963).
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OK"š as a graphic designer, I can imagine sitting in a meeting with the client–about half a dozen people sitting around the boardroom table. The VP of marketing clears his throat:
"
Our name is "˜Stop & Shop', but it's the green light that's in the shopping cart. Our name isn't "˜Go & Shop'. Can you reverse the order of the lights so that the red is on the bottom?
Quote from: briantroutman on October 04, 2018, 07:08:57 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on October 04, 2018, 10:59:28 AM
I always liked this old Stop & Shop logo (from 1963).
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OK"š as a graphic designer, I can imagine sitting in a meeting with the client–about half a dozen people sitting around the boardroom table. The VP of marketing clears his throat:
"Our name is "˜Stop & Shop', but it's the green light that's in the shopping cart. Our name isn't "˜Go & Shop'. Can you reverse the order of the lights so that the red is on the bottom?
Red-yellow-green looks like stop-and-shop to me.
Quote from: jon daly on October 04, 2018, 06:53:07 PM
It's too bad the the blog Pleasant Family Shopping is dead. It seems like it'd be pretty popular among us aa-roadsters.
There's still a Pleasant Family Shopping page on Facebook. It's fairly active, especially these days, with so much retail (and store locations) closing and going away. IINM, right now the page's webmaster has the "funky P" (as they call it) from the pre-1970-1971 Penney's logo on the page's avatar.
Quote from: briantroutman on October 04, 2018, 07:08:57 PM
OK"š as a graphic designer, I can imagine sitting in a meeting with the client–about half a dozen people sitting around the boardroom table. The VP of marketing clears his throat:
"Our name is "˜Stop & Shop', but it's the green light that's in the shopping cart. Our name isn't "˜Go & Shop'. Can you reverse the order of the lights so that the red is on the bottom?
At which point someone explained to him that the logo should remain both MUTCD compliant and OCD compliant in order to maintain the road enthusiast customer base.
And I just saw my first TV ad with the updated logo.
What do stop & shops have? They seem to not reach the north east yet or maybe they closed down back in the day.
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Quote from: Tonytone on October 05, 2018, 12:41:41 PM
What do stop & shops have? They seem to not reach the north east yet or maybe they closed down back in the day.
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They're grocery stores, although there are a few miscellaneous items (pet supplies, soap/shampoo, books, etc.)
And they're
only in the northeast. You're too far south, although Giant, if there are any in your area, is pretty much identical to Stop & Shop.
https://www.supermarketnews.com/retail-financial/stop-shop-unveils-new-look
It turns out that greater Hartford is the first region being changed over to this look. The New England division is headquartered on Hancock Street in Quincy, MA. That covers MA, RI and CT. The New York division covers NY state and NJ. The New England division once had 6 stores in southern NH. They all closed in the fall a few years ago. They even had a store on US Route 1 in Kennebunk, ME. The locals rejected it. Safe to say that their sister chain, Hannaford, dominates northern New England (ME, NH and VT, along with parts of upstate NY and northeastern MA).
Giant is primarily PA, DE, MD and DC. Not sure if there are any in VA. I want to say that Giant is based in Carlisle, PA.
Quote from: 1 on October 05, 2018, 02:00:35 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on October 05, 2018, 12:41:41 PM
What do stop & shops have? They seem to not reach the north east yet or maybe they closed down back in the day.
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They're grocery stores, although there are a few miscellaneous items (pet supplies, soap/shampoo, books, etc.)
And they're only in the northeast. You're too far south, although Giant, if there are any in your area, is pretty much identical to Stop & Shop.
AFAIK, there are no Stop & Shops in Pennsylvania.
Don't pretty much all grocery stores (of a decent size anyway) carry pet supplies, soap/shampoo, books, etc.?
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on October 05, 2018, 10:12:27 PM
Giant is primarily PA, DE, MD and DC. Not sure if there are any in VA. I want to say that Giant is based in Carlisle, PA.
There are two separate and distinct Giant grocery store chains, although both are subsidiaries of Ahold-Delhaize (which also owns Stop & Shop among other chains)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/Giant-Carlisle_logo.svg/400px-Giant-Carlisle_logo.svg.png)
Giant-Carlisle (officially Giant Food Stores, LLC) is based in Carlisle, PA and operates Giant-branded supermarkets in central and eastern Pennsylvania. In addition, the company operates identical stores under the name "Martin's" (to avoid confusion and trademark disputes with the
other Giant as well as the unrelated Giant Eagle) in a few parts of western Pennsylvania plus the panhandles of Maryland and West Virginia as well as nearby rural northern Virginia (well outside the DC area)–and also an isolated cluster in the Richmond area that was previously the Ukrops chain of grocery stores.
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Giant-Landover (officially Giant Food of Maryland, LLC) is based in Landover, MD and operates Giant-branded stores in Maryland, Virginia, and Delaware (primarily in the Washington and Baltimore metro areas). When Giant-Landover expanded into Philadelphia market in the '90s, it was under the name "Super G" (for the same reason that Giant-Carlisle's MD/VA stores are called "Martin's" ).
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Giant_Food_logo.svg/1200px-Giant_Food_logo.svg.png)
Both chains use corporate parent Ahold's "fruitbowl" logo on store-branded products, but Giant-Landover stores have also been increasingly using that logo for store signage as well. To my knowledge, no Giant-Carlisle stores have ever featured the fruitbowl logo on store signage.
I remember a one-off Martins in Rising Sun, MD. I stopped at one once near Charles Town, WV, to fuel up and yes, they did accept my Stop & Shop gas points. But the one in Rising Sun is the only Giant-Carlisle store in the firmly established Giant-Landover footprint along or near the I-95 corridor.
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on October 06, 2018, 07:12:30 AM
I remember a one-off Martins in Rising Sun, MD. I stopped at one once near Charles Town, WV, to fuel up and yes, they did accept my Stop & Shop gas points. But the one in Rising Sun is the only Giant-Carlisle store in the firmly established Giant-Landover footprint along or near the I-95 corridor.
We stopped at a Giant in the Fredrick, MD area not too long ago. I looked them up and saw that their corporate parent was the same as Stop and Shop, for which I have a rarely used card dangling from my key chain. We would have saved a few bucks with the card, so I gave it to the cashier hoping it would work: Nope - Not accepted. My immediate thought was how appropriate the '
Ahold' name was....
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on October 06, 2018, 08:21:08 AM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on October 06, 2018, 07:12:30 AM
I remember a one-off Martins in Rising Sun, MD. I stopped at one once near Charles Town, WV, to fuel up and yes, they did accept my Stop & Shop gas points. But the one in Rising Sun is the only Giant-Carlisle store in the firmly established Giant-Landover footprint along or near the I-95 corridor.
We stopped at a Giant in the Fredrick, MD area not too long ago. I looked them up and saw that their corporate parent was the same as Stop and Shop, for which I have a rarely used card dangling from my key chain. We would have saved a few bucks with the card, so I gave it to the cashier hoping it would work: Nope - Not accepted. My immediate thought was how appropriate the 'Ahold' name was....
Sometimes it does work. I'm not sure if it's completely random, store-specific, or dependent on other information.
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on October 06, 2018, 08:21:08 AM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on October 06, 2018, 07:12:30 AM
I remember a one-off Martins in Rising Sun, MD. I stopped at one once near Charles Town, WV, to fuel up and yes, they did accept my Stop & Shop gas points. But the one in Rising Sun is the only Giant-Carlisle store in the firmly established Giant-Landover footprint along or near the I-95 corridor.
We stopped at a Giant in the Fredrick, MD area not too long ago. I looked them up and saw that their corporate parent was the same as Stop and Shop, for which I have a rarely used card dangling from my key chain. We would have saved a few bucks with the card, so I gave it to the cashier hoping it would work: Nope - Not accepted. My immediate thought was how appropriate the 'Ahold' name was....
Really? I used to be able to use my Safeway card at Dominick's - they were both owned by Albertson's.
Quote from: abefroman329 on October 06, 2018, 09:55:01 AM
Really? I used to be able to use my Safeway card at Dominick's - they were both owned by Albertson's.
I think the landscape is complicated by a number of other factors beyond corporate ownership–such as when in the company's history the loyalty program was established, when (if) key IT systems had been upgraded since, etc.
I've used my Bay Area Safeway shopper card successfully at Safeways in Maryland, Vons/Pavillions stores in Southern California, and Randall's in Texas. But on the other hand, I tried using a Giant-Carlisle card at both Giant-Landover and Stop & Shop–a decade or more after all companies had been under the Ahold umbrella–with no success. I seem to have encountered issues with Kroger-owned stores, too...trying to use a Ralph's card at Kroger with no luck.
I find one thing funny about Hannaford being connected to Stop & Shop by way of their respective corporate parents: Hannaford doesn't use club cards. Stop & Shop does. I never needed a card at the last two Hannaford stores I was in. They would be by Back Cove in Portland, ME and on US Route 5 in Brattleboro, VT.
As for Giant, I went past one in Washington DC on May 30, 2015. It had Ahold's fruit basket logo. It was a few blocks northeast of Union Station, if I remember right. :hmmm:
Yes.. It's at 300 H Street NE
Quote from: briantroutman on October 06, 2018, 11:49:48 AM
Quote from: abefroman329 on October 06, 2018, 09:55:01 AM
Really? I used to be able to use my Safeway card at Dominick's - they were both owned by Albertson's.
I think the landscape is complicated by a number of other factors beyond corporate ownership–such as when in the company's history the loyalty program was established, when (if) key IT systems had been upgraded since, etc.
I've used my Bay Area Safeway shopper card successfully at Safeways in Maryland, Vons/Pavillions stores in Southern California, and Randall's in Texas. But on the other hand, I tried using a Giant-Carlisle card at both Giant-Landover and Stop & Shop–a decade or more after all companies had been under the Ahold umbrella–with no success. I seem to have encountered issues with Kroger-owned stores, too...trying to use a Ralph's card at Kroger with no luck.
I also once tried to use my Safeway card at a Safeway in England and got nowhere with it.
I use a loyalty card for the Big Y but I'm a bit uneasy exchanging data with them in exchange for discounts.
Does anyone recall Finast? I worked in a deli for them after school and it was my favorite job I ever held for the longest time. (I'd do it again if they paid $25/hr.) I forget if this was before or after Ahold bought them, but they became Edward's Food Warehouse for a while before they were phased out.
Quote from: jon daly on October 06, 2018, 01:27:10 PM
Does anyone recall Finast?
I never encountered a Finast store, but I most definitely remember Finast-labeled products (with the same logo as Finast stores apparently used in their final days) being the in-house brand at Giant-Carlisle stores.
When I first encountered Finast products at other people's homes as a young child (we were strictly a Weis Markets family), I assumed the name was pronounced FYE-nest (like the word
finest). But I recall a discussion with a high school friend in which he assured me it was fih-NAST. Then when I later found out that the name was a contraction of FIrst NAtional STores, fih-NAST made perfect sense...basically the same sounds that those letters would have made in the original name. But in recent years, I looked up "finast commercial" on YouTube and found out that the company used FYE-nest anyway.
Did any other Ahold stores get Finast products?
Indeed it was First National but the name probably got shortened by madmen marketers in the swinging 60's. My dad still referred to them by their old name. It made it sound like it was a bank.
I remember a couple of Finast/Edwards locations. The Finast in Newbrite Plaza in New Britain, CT had a huge liquor store next to it (Liquor Depot) that moved to in front of Stop & Shop on West Main St once Finast got out of there. The space is now occupied by Save-a-Lot and Ocean State Job Lot. Also remember a Finast on Route 5 in Wallingford that is now Big Lots in the same plaza where the original KMart (now the movie theater) was. The Shop Rite in Southington was once an Edwards but was sold off to Shaws in the merger then closed shortly before Albertsons left CT (they've since dipped a toe in the water once again by purchasing a couple of former A&P's in lower Fairfield County and rebranding them as Acme locations.)
Saw another renovated Stop & Shop location in Newington on Kitts Lane. I also hear Unionville was one of the stores. Wouldn't be surprised if the one on Route 6 in Bristol is one as well. Says there's about 20 locations.
Quote from: briantroutman on October 05, 2018, 11:14:08 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on October 05, 2018, 10:12:27 PM
Giant is primarily PA, DE, MD and DC. Not sure if there are any in VA. I want to say that Giant is based in Carlisle, PA.
There are two separate and distinct Giant grocery store chains, although both are subsidiaries of Ahold-Delhaize (which also owns Stop & Shop among other chains)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/Giant-Carlisle_logo.svg/400px-Giant-Carlisle_logo.svg.png)
Giant-Carlisle (officially Giant Food Stores, LLC) is based in Carlisle, PA and operates Giant-branded supermarkets in central and eastern Pennsylvania. In addition, the company operates identical stores under the name "Martin's" (to avoid confusion and trademark disputes with the other Giant as well as the unrelated Giant Eagle) in a few parts of western Pennsylvania plus the panhandles of Maryland and West Virginia as well as nearby rural northern Virginia (well outside the DC area)–and also an isolated cluster in the Richmond area that was previously the Ukrops chain of grocery stores.
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Giant-Landover (officially Giant Food of Maryland, LLC) is based in Landover, MD and operates Giant-branded stores in Maryland, Virginia, and Delaware (primarily in the Washington and Baltimore metro areas). When Giant-Landover expanded into Philadelphia market in the '90s, it was under the name "Super G" (for the same reason that Giant-Carlisle's MD/VA stores are called "Martin's" ).
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Giant_Food_logo.svg/1200px-Giant_Food_logo.svg.png)
Both chains use corporate parent Ahold's "fruitbowl" logo on store-branded products, but Giant-Landover stores have also been increasingly using that logo for store signage as well. To my knowledge, no Giant-Carlisle stores have ever featured the fruitbowl logo on store signage.
Martin's pulled out of the Richmond market last year. Some of the stores were sold to Publix, and others simply closed. Ahold Delhaize decided Food Lion was the better brand to keep here for whatever reason. The other markets where Ahold and Delhaize overlapped, Food Lions closed.
Quote from: briantroutman on October 05, 2018, 11:14:08 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on October 05, 2018, 10:12:27 PM
Giant is primarily PA, DE, MD and DC. Not sure if there are any in VA. I want to say that Giant is based in Carlisle, PA.
There are two separate and distinct Giant grocery store chains, although both are subsidiaries of Ahold-Delhaize (which also owns Stop & Shop among other chains)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/Giant-Carlisle_logo.svg/400px-Giant-Carlisle_logo.svg.png)
Giant-Carlisle (officially Giant Food Stores, LLC) is based in Carlisle, PA and operates Giant-branded supermarkets in central and eastern Pennsylvania. In addition, the company operates identical stores under the name "Martin's" (to avoid confusion and trademark disputes with the other Giant as well as the unrelated Giant Eagle) in a few parts of western Pennsylvania plus the panhandles of Maryland and West Virginia as well as nearby rural northern Virginia (well outside the DC area)–and also an isolated cluster in the Richmond area that was previously the Ukrops chain of grocery stores.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F3%2F35%2FOld_Giant_Food_Logo.svg%2F400px-Old_Giant_Food_Logo.svg.png&hash=9bf6a382d65b9fd4f9d987c96575f91566233185)
Giant-Landover (officially Giant Food of Maryland, LLC) is based in Landover, MD and operates Giant-branded stores in Maryland, Virginia, and Delaware (primarily in the Washington and Baltimore metro areas). When Giant-Landover expanded into Philadelphia market in the '90s, it was under the name "Super G" (for the same reason that Giant-Carlisle's MD/VA stores are called "Martin's" ).
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Giant_Food_logo.svg/1200px-Giant_Food_logo.svg.png)
Both chains use corporate parent Ahold's "fruitbowl" logo on store-branded products, but Giant-Landover stores have also been increasingly using that logo for store signage as well. To my knowledge, no Giant-Carlisle stores have ever featured the fruitbowl logo on store signage.
I've seen that "fruitbowl" logo on other stores, but I can't think of where right now.
Quote from: D-Dey65 on October 07, 2018, 12:26:09 PM
I've seen that "fruitbowl" logo on other stores, but I can't think of where right now.
The current Stop & Shop logo (before the change a few weeks ago) is the fruitbowl one.
Would you believe they had a DJ spinning tunes inside today? No, I'm NOT kidding. :paranoid:
(https://preview.ibb.co/kueRZU/1007181428_3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cfqpop)
The receipt doesn't replicate the logo very well. X-(
Food is taxed in Connecticut?
Quote from: 1 on October 07, 2018, 03:04:07 PM
Food is taxed in Connecticut?
Generally, no. Soda, candy, and many single serve items are taxed. And it depends on whether a store is classified as a supermarket or a convenience store. For example: a 2 pack of Twinkies is not taxable in a supermarket, but in a convenience store is taxable because it is considered to be ready to eat and for immediate consumption. However, a box of Twinkies is not taxable in any store because it is a family pack. Fruit is not taxable, but put it in a gift basket and it becomes taxable. Plain water is not taxable, but put some cO2 in it and Uncle Danny takes a cut. Single serve bags of chips are taxable, but a big bag of chips is not.
6.35% goes to Dannell...none for you! :(
Quote from: abefroman329 on October 06, 2018, 09:55:01 AM
Really? I used to be able to use my Safeway card at Dominick's - they were both owned by Albertson's.
My Safeway card (from a Safeway in Maryland) worked fine at a Vons store in Los Angeles County.
Quote from: briantroutman on October 05, 2018, 11:14:08 PM
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Giant-Landover (officially Giant Food of Maryland, LLC) is based in Landover, MD and operates Giant-branded stores in Maryland, Virginia, and Delaware (primarily in the Washington and Baltimore metro areas). When Giant-Landover expanded into Philadelphia market in the '90s, it was under the name "Super G" (for the same reason that Giant-Carlisle's MD/VA stores are called "Martin's" ).
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Giant_Food_logo.svg/1200px-Giant_Food_logo.svg.png)
Both chains use corporate parent Ahold's "fruitbowl" logo on store-branded products, but Giant-Landover stores have also been increasingly using that logo for store signage as well. To my knowledge, no Giant-Carlisle stores have ever featured the fruitbowl logo on store signage.
I have not seen any of the Giant-Landover stores reverting to one of the several old Giant Food logos that can still be seen on some stores (there are several different logos).
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on October 07, 2018, 03:13:41 PM
Quote from: 1 on October 07, 2018, 03:04:07 PM
Food is taxed in Connecticut?
Generally, no. Soda, candy, and many single serve items are taxed. And it depends on whether a store is classified as a supermarket or a convenience store. For example: a 2 pack of Twinkies is not taxable in a supermarket, but in a convenience store is taxable because it is considered to be ready to eat and for immediate consumption. However, a box of Twinkies is not taxable in any store because it is a family pack. Fruit is not taxable, but put it in a gift basket and it becomes taxable. Plain water is not taxable, but put some cO2 in it and Uncle Danny takes a cut. Single serve bags of chips are taxable, but a big bag of chips is not.
OTOH, you can buy a soda or a beer in Rhody without paying a deposit and redeem it in CT for a nickel.
I was curious why on Earth a company would own two completely different stores called Giant without merging the branding, and apparently it's because one is unionized and one isn't. So to keep the union from taking over all of the Giants, they have to keep them separate. Lame.
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on October 07, 2018, 03:13:41 PM
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Food is taxed in Connecticut?
Generally, no. Soda, candy, and many single serve items are taxed. And it depends on whether a store is classified as a supermarket or a convenience store. For example: a 2 pack of Twinkies is not taxable in a supermarket, but in a convenience store is taxable because it is considered to be ready to eat and for immediate consumption. However, a box of Twinkies is not taxable in any store because it is a family pack. Fruit is not taxable, but put it in a gift basket and it becomes taxable. Plain water is not taxable, but put some cO2 in it and Uncle Danny takes a cut. Single serve bags of chips are taxable, but a big bag of chips is not.
In Oklahoma, all food is taxed at whatever the usual tax rate is. Newcastle residents pay 9%, for instance.
Quote from: jon daly on October 07, 2018, 06:34:18 PMOTOH, you can buy a soda or a beer in Rhody without paying a deposit and redeem it in CT for a nickel.
Provided that such is
marked for deposit. I've done similar with soda can & bottles I bought in PA and redeemed them during one of my visits/trips to MA. Such only works if such bottles & can are marked.
Quote from: PHLBOS on October 09, 2018, 09:06:57 AM
Quote from: jon daly on October 07, 2018, 06:34:18 PMOTOH, you can buy a soda or a beer in Rhody without paying a deposit and redeem it in CT for a nickel.
Provided that such is marked for deposit. I've done similar with soda can & bottles I bought in PA and redeemed them during one of my visits/trips to MA. Such only works if such bottles & can are marked.
And of course, MA doesn't accept all containers that are marked as deposit in other states. Specifically, water bottles are redeemable in most states, but not MA. The exception is sparkling water containers, which are redeemable in MA.
Quote from: jon daly on October 06, 2018, 01:27:10 PM
I use a loyalty card for the Big Y but I'm a bit uneasy exchanging data with them in exchange for discounts.
Does anyone recall Finast? I worked in a deli for them after school and it was my favorite job I ever held for the longest time. (I'd do it again if they paid $25/hr.) I forget if this was before or after Ahold bought them, but they became Edward's Food Warehouse for a while before they were phased out.
I remember them well. I went to one in Bridgeport with my grandfather quite often to get stuff for our weekly Sunday brunch. There was a nice deli called Fortuna's next door that made really good sandwiches, or I thought so as a child.
Quote from: roadman on October 09, 2018, 09:49:46 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on October 09, 2018, 09:06:57 AM
Quote from: jon daly on October 07, 2018, 06:34:18 PMOTOH, you can buy a soda or a beer in Rhody without paying a deposit and redeem it in CT for a nickel.
Provided that such is marked for deposit. I've done similar with soda can & bottles I bought in PA and redeemed them during one of my visits/trips to MA. Such only works if such bottles & can are marked.
And of course, MA doesn't accept all containers that are marked as deposit in other states. Specifically, water bottles are redeemable in most states, but not MA. The exception is sparkling water containers, which are redeemable in MA.
If memory serves, MA's bottle/can deposit only applies towards
carbonated beverages. Sparkling water would be considered such (carbonated) whereas spring-water, for example, would not.
Quote from: abefroman329 on October 06, 2018, 01:09:32 PM
I also once tried to use my Safeway card at a Safeway in England and got nowhere with it.
My Safeway card also didn't work at a Safeway in western Canada. I was told that the store was in Canada's Air Miles loyalty program, rather than Safeway's U.S. program.
Quote from: PHLBOS on October 09, 2018, 11:27:18 AM
Quote from: roadman on October 09, 2018, 09:49:46 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on October 09, 2018, 09:06:57 AM
Quote from: jon daly on October 07, 2018, 06:34:18 PMOTOH, you can buy a soda or a beer in Rhody without paying a deposit and redeem it in CT for a nickel.
Provided that such is marked for deposit. I've done similar with soda can & bottles I bought in PA and redeemed them during one of my visits/trips to MA. Such only works if such bottles & can are marked.
And of course, MA doesn't accept all containers that are marked as deposit in other states. Specifically, water bottles are redeemable in most states, but not MA. The exception is sparkling water containers, which are redeemable in MA.
If memory serves, MA's bottle/can deposit only applies towards carbonated beverages. Sparkling water would be considered such (carbonated) whereas spring-water, for example, would not.
That is correct. Couldn't think of the correct term (carbonated). Of course, it's just plain silly that carbonated beverages are subject to a container deposit, but non-carbonated ones are not. Even sillier was the fact that changing this so that the container deposit applies to ALL beverage containers - regardless of contents - was the subject of an initiative petition last year, and was defeated by the voters.
Quote from: roadman on October 09, 2018, 12:49:51 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on October 09, 2018, 11:27:18 AM
Quote from: roadman on October 09, 2018, 09:49:46 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on October 09, 2018, 09:06:57 AM
Quote from: jon daly on October 07, 2018, 06:34:18 PMOTOH, you can buy a soda or a beer in Rhody without paying a deposit and redeem it in CT for a nickel.
Provided that such is marked for deposit. I've done similar with soda can & bottles I bought in PA and redeemed them during one of my visits/trips to MA. Such only works if such bottles & can are marked.
And of course, MA doesn't accept all containers that are marked as deposit in other states. Specifically, water bottles are redeemable in most states, but not MA. The exception is sparkling water containers, which are redeemable in MA.
If memory serves, MA's bottle/can deposit only applies towards carbonated beverages. Sparkling water would be considered such (carbonated) whereas spring-water, for example, would not.
That is correct. Couldn't think of the correct term (carbonated). Of course, it's just plain silly that carbonated beverages are subject to a container deposit, but non-carbonated ones are not.
Back when
that bottle bill took effect (early 80s); the number/variety of non-carbonated beverages sold in bottles/cans was much less. That bill essentially reinstated a bottle/can deposit that likely existed decades earlier (then at 2 cents) and the only non-carbonated beverages sold at the time (& in larger sizes) were fruit juices.
Quote from: roadman on October 09, 2018, 09:49:46 AMEven sillier was the fact that changing this so that the container deposit applies to ALL beverage containers - regardless of contents - was the subject of an initiative petition last year, and was defeated by the voters.
You may recall that prior to the current bottle bill becoming law via referendum vote; such was initially defeated at least once by the voters in previous elections.
I live at the east edge of Giant-Landover's Baltimore-Washington territory and love their current logo, and how they share it with Stop & Shop. That said, this storefront looks nice.
Quote from: roadman on October 09, 2018, 12:49:51 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on October 09, 2018, 11:27:18 AM
Quote from: roadman on October 09, 2018, 09:49:46 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on October 09, 2018, 09:06:57 AM
Quote from: jon daly on October 07, 2018, 06:34:18 PMOTOH, you can buy a soda or a beer in Rhody without paying a deposit and redeem it in CT for a nickel.
Provided that such is marked for deposit. I've done similar with soda can & bottles I bought in PA and redeemed them during one of my visits/trips to MA. Such only works if such bottles & can are marked.
And of course, MA doesn't accept all containers that are marked as deposit in other states. Specifically, water bottles are redeemable in most states, but not MA. The exception is sparkling water containers, which are redeemable in MA.
If memory serves, MA's bottle/can deposit only applies towards carbonated beverages. Sparkling water would be considered such (carbonated) whereas spring-water, for example, would not.
That is correct. Couldn't think of the correct term (carbonated). Of course, it's just plain silly that carbonated beverages are subject to a container deposit, but non-carbonated ones are not. Even sillier was the fact that changing this so that the container deposit applies to ALL beverage containers - regardless of contents - was the subject of an initiative petition last year, and was defeated by the voters.
CT originally had the same bottle bill as MA, but added bottled water in 2010. However, it is only the smaller bottles of water that have the deposit; the 3 liter bottles and gallons do not have a deposit on them. To show that they are hip to the bill, companies have put a red ring on the label of bottles in MA, RI, and other states that do not have a deposit on water so that the machine will see that no deposit was paid. As far as buying soda not labeled for deposit and trying to cash them in deposit states: I once did find a killer sale on 12 packs of Coke in MD (3/$5, which came to $5.25 with tax). MD doesn't have a bottle bill, but I brought the cans back to CT, and the machines accepted them, so I got $3.60 back. Ended up paying $1.65 for 3 12-packs, which breaks down to under a nickel a can. Still wasn't my best score though. I bought a couple of 12 packs at a CVS in NY state that were $1.99 each, plus they had $1.00 off coupons on them, so I got them for 99 cents, and there was no tax, plus I wasn't charged the deposit. After I redeemed them, I paid 39 cents a 12 pack, which is a little over 3 cents a can.
Very true about the whole deposit thing! Some states have bottles of Poland Spring water with a distinct red border around the UPC/bar code. I brought some back once from New Hampshire and the Trenton area this summer. None of them were accepted here in Connecticut. In each case, the bottles were marked as "CT/MA/NY - 5 cents" Some will also say "CA - CRV". What is CRV? Container Retail Value?
What else is strange is how sometimes the bottle return machine at a local Walmart (Connecticut) will take the 2 liter bottle of soda and the Acadia bottled water from Stop & Shop. :)
Getting back to Stop & Shop again...I have no idea how many other locations in greater Hartford have had the renovations done. The Berlin, CT store (store #614) just had their "grand reopening" this weekend, as they called it. A TV ad here mentions the changes. At the end of the ad, the existing fruit basket logo spins around and slowly morphs into the new retro "traffic light" logo.
They say about 20 different ones were updated. The 3 I've actually seen are Berlin, Kitts Lane in Newington, and West Middle Turnpike in Manchester (evidenced by the gas station canopy; can't see the store from the pumps, though). Read from the comments on a FB sponsored ad that Unionville, a couple in Glastonbury, and one in Vernon were among them.
I'm going to be in the North Shore part of MA this weekend. I can easily check out whether or not the one in Vinnin Square/Swampscott has been updated. This one was originally signed as a Super Stop & Shop when it first opened in the 1990s and replaced the nearby Salem S&S.
Probably not. Supermarket News said that greater Hartford was the first area being done over.
As for Kitts Lane in Newington, CT? No disguising that flaming turd which was once a Shaw's!
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on October 10, 2018, 01:32:03 PM
Probably not. Supermarket News said that greater Hartford was the first area being done over.
As for Kitts Lane in Newington, CT? No disguising that flaming turd which was once a Shaw's!
I love how the old Shaw's in New Britain is now an indoor storage facility, and the one in Bristol is vacant once again after Walmart failed with Neighborhood Market. Ironically, the crappiest Shaw's of all in Southington (once an Edwards) has been nicely refurbished as a Shop Rite.
And the one at West Main and Corbin Avenue in New Britain does have the new signage as of this afternoon.
They should be at a good clip in greater Hartford. One of the CT Transit busses in New Britain had a bus wrap ad with the newer retro logo and all. I have yet to walk past (or be on the bus past) any other locations. After Kitts Lane (off the Berlin Turnpike in Newington), Berlin and New Britain, the next locations are on CT Route 372 in Cromwell and then the Elmwood section of West Hartford.
Pretty sure I found a list of those that weren't converted yet. Looked at the bottom of the weekly flyer and the stores listed probably haven't. Southington, both Bristol stores (Route 6 and Forestville), Cheshire, and Granby were among those that haven't. I can confirm Southington and the Forestville location haven't, and I'm sure the one on West Main in Meriden (a converted Edwards that is pretty much 1980's vintage except for updated signage), and on Farmington Ave in West Hartford (which was never a Super Stop & Shop when almost all stores were branded as such) are among those that aren't.
I was told that New Britain (Corbin Avenue by West Main Street) was changed over. A youtube video clip surfaced with a few employees of converted stores more or less giving shoutouts about the new look, etc. Store #614 of Berlin was included.
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Quote from: PHLBOS on October 04, 2018, 10:59:28 AM
I always liked this old Stop & Shop logo (from 1963).
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OK"š as a graphic designer, I can imagine sitting in a meeting with the client–about half a dozen people sitting around the boardroom table. The VP of marketing clears his throat:
"Our name is "˜Stop & Shop', but it's the green light that's in the shopping cart. Our name isn't "˜Go & Shop'. Can you reverse the order of the lights so that the red is on the bottom?
When I was a tot I called it "Red-Green."