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Title: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: index on December 20, 2018, 12:38:28 PM
If this would be more appropriate under bridges, please move it - thanks.


Here in North Carolina, we have three inland ferries - The Elwell, Parker's, and Sans Souci.


Inspired by this thread, there doesn't seem to be one for the general topic.


https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=24097.0 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=24097.0)
Title: Re: Inland Ferries (Besides Great Lakes)
Post by: Brandon on December 20, 2018, 12:59:15 PM
There's many that cross the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers, as well as two that cross the Illinois River and one across the Wisconsin River.  There's also a bunch out west.

Examples:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrimac_Ferry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave-In-Rock_Ferry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorena%E2%80%93Hickman_Ferry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahkiakum_County_ferry
Title: Re: Inland Ferries (Besides Great Lakes)
Post by: oscar on December 20, 2018, 01:27:31 PM
Quote from: index on December 20, 2018, 12:38:28 PM
Here in North Carolina, we have three inland ferries - The Elwell, Parker's, and Sans Souci.

Which are where, and on which highways (if any)? I know there are two on NC 306, not sure if they include the three you named.

Puget Sound has lots of ferries, not sure you'd count them as "inland".

There are lots of others, probably too many to be of interest.

For some minor ones out west, there are the two ferries to Ryer Island in the Sacramento River delta (one on CA 84, the other on CA 220), discussed elsewhere on this forum.
Title: Re: Inland Ferries (Besides Great Lakes)
Post by: jeffandnicole on December 20, 2018, 01:37:33 PM
I guess what's an inland ferry vs. another type? 

The Cape May-Lewis Ferry is on the edge of NJ & DE just before you hit the Atlantic Ocean, for example.
Title: Re: Inland Ferries (Besides Great Lakes)
Post by: 1995hoo on December 20, 2018, 01:39:21 PM
Is there any sort of minimum distance involved to qualify? I can think of various very short ferry services that seem too trivial, whereas if there were a ferry across something like the Great Salt Lake that might seem more notable.
Title: Re: Inland Ferries (Besides Great Lakes)
Post by: paulthemapguy on December 20, 2018, 02:07:45 PM
I'll add the second ferry I've ever used--The Charlotte-Essex ferry across Lake Champlain, connecting Vermont and New York.

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.3034383,-73.3312214,14.04z

The two ferries in Illinois across the Illinois River are both along the lowest section of the river, bordering Calhoun County.  They are the Brussels Ferry, very close to the mouth of the river, and the Kampsville Ferry, carrying IL-108.
Title: Re: Inland Ferries (Besides Great Lakes)
Post by: briantroutman on December 20, 2018, 02:46:43 PM
Are you referring specifically to vehicle ferries or all ferries? Of course there are lots of passenger-only ferries in urban areas (Staten Island-Manhattan, Camden-Philadelphia, Sausalito-San Francisco)–most of which are arguably "inland" , even though they're near the coasts. And on the topic of inland vs non-inland: I assume the only non-inland ferries (of any type) would be those to islands off the coast of the mainland, like Nantucket.

Assuming we're talking about vehicle ferries only, I can think of a few specific examples offhand.

There's a seasonal ferry crossing of the Susquehanna River (https://goo.gl/maps/2RBKFwJr4bx) between Millersburg and US 11-15 on the opposite shore. Given the ferry's location near the terminus of US 209–and also that US 209 ends at PA 147 rather than another US route, I always liked to think of the ferry as being part of US 209, connecting it to 11-15.

I had occasion to ride a vehicular ferry near Houston (https://goo.gl/maps/cLsmQmRH8bo) once when visiting the Monument of San Jacinto. To my surprise it was operated free of charge. In the Northeast, the ride surely would have run at least $5-10.
Title: Re: Inland Ferries (Besides Great Lakes)
Post by: Max Rockatansky on December 20, 2018, 03:45:53 PM
The Real McCoy II on CA 84 and J-Mack on CA 220 in the Sacramento River Delta. 
Title: Re: Inland Ferries (Besides Great Lakes)
Post by: froggie on December 20, 2018, 04:06:10 PM
Quote from: oscar on December 20, 2018, 01:27:31 PM
Quote from: index on December 20, 2018, 12:38:28 PM
Here in North Carolina, we have three inland ferries - The Elwell, Parker's, and Sans Souci.

Which are where, and on which highways (if any)? I know there are two on NC 306, not sure if they include the three you named.

All three of the ferries he mentioned are on secondary routes.  Elwell is on the Cape Fear River, upriver of NC 11.  Parker's is on the Meherrin River north of Winton, while Sans Souci is downriver of Windsor (before Albemarle Sound).

QuoteThere are lots of others, probably too many to be of interest.

Agreed.

Quote from: paulthemapguyI'll add the second ferry I've ever used--The Charlotte-Essex ferry across Lake Champlain, connecting Vermont and New York.

One of four such ferries across Lake Champlain.
Title: Re: Inland Ferries (Besides Great Lakes)
Post by: index on December 20, 2018, 04:37:11 PM
Quote from: oscar on December 20, 2018, 01:27:31 PM
Quote from: index on December 20, 2018, 12:38:28 PM
Here in North Carolina, we have three inland ferries - The Elwell, Parker's, and Sans Souci.

Which are where, and on which highways (if any)? I know there are two on NC 306, not sure if they include the three you named.

Puget Sound has lots of ferries, not sure you'd count them as "inland".

There are lots of others, probably too many to be of interest.

For some minor ones out west, there are the two ferries to Ryer Island in the Sacramento River delta (one on CA 84, the other on CA 220), discussed elsewhere on this forum.


For more specific secondary routes, you have these:


The Elwell Ferry carries NC Secondary Road 1730, the Sans Souci carries NC SR 1500, and the Parker's carries 1306. They've got some neat traffic control.


https://www.google.com/maps/@34.4734683,-78.3694724,3a,41.8y,61.16h,83.67t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s-asPdLToxN5OgPkhyI5Kjw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D-asPdLToxN5OgPkhyI5Kjw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D119.064026%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.4734683,-78.3694724,3a,41.8y,61.16h,83.67t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s-asPdLToxN5OgPkhyI5Kjw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D-asPdLToxN5OgPkhyI5Kjw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D119.064026%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656)


https://www.google.com/maps/@34.474957,-78.3683388,3a,37.3y,218.95h,85.38t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s0ESYU73t3ft5-iaUh3tqsg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D0ESYU73t3ft5-iaUh3tqsg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D68.45751%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.474957,-78.3683388,3a,37.3y,218.95h,85.38t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s0ESYU73t3ft5-iaUh3tqsg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D0ESYU73t3ft5-iaUh3tqsg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D68.45751%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656)


https://www.google.com/maps/@35.9107369,-76.8172563,3a,15y,343.6h,89.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbv4YvrISWXTP7n0v_TPxAw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.9107369,-76.8172563,3a,15y,343.6h,89.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbv4YvrISWXTP7n0v_TPxAw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)


Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 20, 2018, 01:37:33 PMI guess what's an inland ferry vs. another type? The Cape May-Lewis Ferry is on the edge of NJ & DE just before you hit the Atlantic Ocean, for example.


I suppose, for this, inland will be considered not an estuary in addition. Those are also pretty common locations for ferries, much more so than ferries that are well inland. Under this it appears that the Sans Souci ferry would barely make it. If it's interesting enough, I say go ahead and post it anyway, I don't think it'd hurt.


Quote from: 1995hoo on December 20, 2018, 01:39:21 PMIs there any sort of minimum distance involved to qualify? I can think of various very short ferry services that seem too trivial, whereas if there were a ferry across something like the Great Salt Lake that might seem more notable.


Any distance would be fine.






My bad on all this, I didn't expect there to be much ambiguity but I suppose my initial post was a bit too vague.
Title: Re: Inland Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: index on December 20, 2018, 04:42:28 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@50.9046561,-106.9178978,3a,75y,313.39h,84.69t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sSDHpGnZ_rquyOEbKwLwYfQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DSDHpGnZ_rquyOEbKwLwYfQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D42.850765%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656


Here's another inland ferry, this one is in Saskatchewan.


https://www.google.com/maps/@61.2583961,-117.5282037,3a,39.5y,355h,89.63t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1snFpDddOz8aAUdtKRRg8OVg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DnFpDddOz8aAUdtKRRg8OVg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D271.5%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656


And here's a ferry in the Northewest Territories. This one was replaced by the Deh Cho Bridge.
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: SectorZ on December 20, 2018, 05:21:18 PM
The Connecticut River has two ferry crossings in Connecticut, both below Hartford.
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: oscar on December 20, 2018, 05:59:36 PM
Quote from: index on December 20, 2018, 04:42:28 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@50.9046561,-106.9178978,3a,75y,313.39h,84.69t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sSDHpGnZ_rquyOEbKwLwYfQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DSDHpGnZ_rquyOEbKwLwYfQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D42.850765%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656

Here's another inland ferry, this one is in Saskatchewan.

Saskatchewan has a dozen more ferries, on either the secondary system (600-799) or on northern provincial roads (9xx). Some are replaced by ice bridges in the winter.

Quote
https://www.google.com/maps/@61.2583961,-117.5282037,3a,39.5y,355h,89.63t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1snFpDddOz8aAUdtKRRg8OVg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DnFpDddOz8aAUdtKRRg8OVg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D271.5%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656

And here's a ferry in the Northewest Territories. This one was replaced by the Deh Cho Bridge.

There are four river ferries, two each on NT 1 and NT 8, that have not been replaced by bridges. They are replaced by ice bridges in the winter, as was the one since replaced by the Deh Cho Bridge. There are usually gaps between the operating seasons of the ferries and the ice bridges, while the river ice solidifies in the autumn and breaks up in the spring.

Yukon Territory has two river ferries, one between YT 2 in Dawson and YT 9 to the U.S. border, the other carrying YT 6 across the river at Ross River. Unlike the ones in NT, Yukon's river ferry crossings close in the winter, with no ice bridge replacements.
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: 1995hoo on December 20, 2018, 06:16:26 PM
The Potomac has White's Ferry near Leesburg, Virginia. No doubt it'll be closed again tomorrow due to flooding. The James River in Virginia has two–the Jamestown—Scotland Ferry is well-known, and west of Scottsville there's the little-known Hatton Ferry, which is said to be the last poled ferry remaining in the 48 contiguous states. Virginia also has VDOT-operated ferries on Route 644 in Northumberland County across the Little Wicomico River and on Route 604 in Lancaster County across the Corrotoman River; both of those ferries have only one operator and close for half an hour at midday for their lunch breaks.

Going much further afield, the St. Lawrence River has a ferry near Sorel and another longer one from Rivière-du-Loop to Saint-Siméon. Not too far from the latter, a ferry crosses the mouth of the Saguenay at Tadoussac.

Nova Scotia has at least two cable ferries. One is at LaHave and the other is on Cape Breton Island near Englishtown.


(Edited to fix a misspelling)
Title: Re: Inland Ferries (Besides Great Lakes)
Post by: skluth on December 20, 2018, 07:08:41 PM
Quote from: Brandon on December 20, 2018, 12:59:15 PM
There's many that cross the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers, as well as two that cross the Illinois River and one across the Wisconsin River.  There's also a bunch out west.

Examples:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrimac_Ferry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave-In-Rock_Ferry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorena%E2%80%93Hickman_Ferry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahkiakum_County_ferry

Plus the Badger, carrying traffic across Lake Michigan.
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: US 89 on December 20, 2018, 07:13:28 PM
Utah has the Charles Hall Ferry, which carries UT 276 across Lake Powell (although not officially). It runs in the daytime during summer, and Thursday-Saturday in winter.

This is probably one of the highest-elevation car ferries out there, which varies from 3600 to 3700 feet depending on the height of Lake Powell. I'd be curious if there are any higher-elevation ferries.
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: index on December 20, 2018, 07:24:44 PM
Quote from: US 89 on December 20, 2018, 07:13:28 PM
Utah has the Charles Hall Ferry, which carries UT 276 across Lake Powell (although not officially). It runs in the daytime during summer, and Thursday-Saturday in winter.

This is probably one of the highest-elevation car ferries out there, which varies from 3600 to 3700 feet depending on the height of Lake Powell. I'd be curious if there are any higher-elevation ferries.


That's a neat one. I don't believe you typically see ferries in that kind of landscape. UDOT has this short video on it:





This ferry on the Columbia is called the Wahkiakum County Ferry.


https://www.google.com/maps/@46.1538613,-123.3776541,3a,42.6y,149.05h,85.23t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipN3QUJekX2SB11oOEfeFWCb97vYL8Rt75SjUVXB!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipN3QUJekX2SB11oOEfeFWCb97vYL8Rt75SjUVXB%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi0-ya317.1963-ro-0-fo100!7i5760!8i2880 (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.1538613,-123.3776541,3a,42.6y,149.05h,85.23t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipN3QUJekX2SB11oOEfeFWCb97vYL8Rt75SjUVXB!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipN3QUJekX2SB11oOEfeFWCb97vYL8Rt75SjUVXB%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi0-ya317.1963-ro-0-fo100!7i5760!8i2880)



Oop. That was already mentioned...
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: GaryV on December 20, 2018, 09:25:00 PM
OK, you said beside Great Lakes, but how about the connecting waters of the Great Lakes?  There's 3 on the St. Clair River (to Harsen's Island, Algonac to Walpole Island, and Marine City to Sombra).  Also 3 on the St. Marys River (to Sugar, Neebish and Drummond Islands).

In the northern Lower Peninsula, there's a ferry across the southern arm of Lake Charlevoix at Ironton.

In Mammoth Cave National Park, there's a ferry across the Green River.

Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: ipeters61 on December 20, 2018, 09:48:14 PM
Quote from: SectorZ on December 20, 2018, 05:21:18 PM
The Connecticut River has two ferry crossings in Connecticut, both below Hartford.
Yup, the Chester/Hadlyme Ferry (CT-148) and Rocky Hill/Glastonbury Ferry (CT-160).

In Delaware, there's a bizarre one, the Woodland Ferry near Laurel (over the Nanticoke River): https://www.google.com/maps/@38.5999712,-75.6559727,16.79z
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: TheOneKEA on December 21, 2018, 06:44:09 AM
There is a ferry on Maryland's Eastern Shore, between the towns of Oxford and Bellevue. The ferry crosses the Tred Avon River.
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: MNHighwayMan on December 21, 2018, 09:15:58 AM
Quote from: index on December 20, 2018, 07:24:44 PM
Quote from: US 89 on December 20, 2018, 07:13:28 PM
Utah has the Charles Hall Ferry, which carries UT 276 across Lake Powell (although not officially). It runs in the daytime during summer, and Thursday-Saturday in winter.
That's a neat one. I don't believe you typically see ferries in that kind of landscape. UDOT has this short video on it:


Must be recognized in some official capacity if they have a UT-276 sign right on the ramp.
Title: Re: Inland Ferries (Besides Great Lakes)
Post by: Paulinator66 on December 21, 2018, 10:52:40 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on December 20, 2018, 02:07:45 PM
The two ferries in Illinois across the Illinois River are both along the lowest section of the river, bordering Calhoun County.  They are the Brussels Ferry, very close to the mouth of the river, and the Kampsville Ferry, carrying IL-108.

I've been on both of those -- sometimes in the same day -- usually coinciding with a leisurely day trip to Grafton.  Oh, and that reminds me of the Grafton Ferry.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grafton+Ferry/@38.9577483,-90.4364812,15z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x2f1eee0cd6f2b69c?ved=2ahUKEwjhzcCGo7HfAhUpzoMKHaNMAPcQ_BIwE3oECAYQCA (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grafton+Ferry/@38.9577483,-90.4364812,15z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x2f1eee0cd6f2b69c?ved=2ahUKEwjhzcCGo7HfAhUpzoMKHaNMAPcQ_BIwE3oECAYQCA)
Title: Re: Inland Ferries (Besides Great Lakes)
Post by: inkyatari on December 21, 2018, 12:44:08 PM
Quote from: Brandon on December 20, 2018, 12:59:15 PM
There's many that cross the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers, as well as two that cross the Illinois River and one across the Wisconsin River.  There's also a bunch out west.

Examples:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrimac_Ferry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave-In-Rock_Ferry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorena%E2%80%93Hickman_Ferry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahkiakum_County_ferry

IMHO, there should be a ferry across the Illinois river between Morris and I-55 for emergency services usage should something hamper the IL-47 and I-55 bridges.  A bridge across there would be preferable, but I don't see that ever happening.
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: US 89 on December 21, 2018, 12:46:16 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on December 21, 2018, 09:15:58 AM
Quote from: index on December 20, 2018, 07:24:44 PM
Quote from: US 89 on December 20, 2018, 07:13:28 PM
Utah has the Charles Hall Ferry, which carries UT 276 across Lake Powell (although not officially). It runs in the daytime during summer, and Thursday-Saturday in winter.
That's a neat one. I don't believe you typically see ferries in that kind of landscape. UDOT has this short video on it:


Must be recognized in some official capacity if they have a UT-276 sign right on the ramp.

It’s a UDOT-run ferry, but the interesting thing is that the legislative description for SR-276 does not include anything within the boundaries of Glen Canyon Recreation Area, nor does it mention a ferry (see resolution (https://www.udot.utah.gov/main/uconowner.gf?n=200609201406221)). But looking at the reference (https://www.udot.utah.gov/main/uconowner.gf?n=7140921265783134), it appears the ferry is included as a 0.000-mile segment of SR-276, though that doesn’t show up in the interactive map.

I’d say the ferry would be required to clinch 276, but some may disagree with that based on the official legislative description.
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: kphoger on December 21, 2018, 01:44:12 PM
Quote from: skluth on December 20, 2018, 07:08:41 PM
Plus the Badger, carrying traffic across Lake Michigan.

[Did not read the thread title]
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: westerninterloper on December 21, 2018, 02:50:32 PM
The only remaining ferry on the Wabash River in Indiana was recently sold, and I'm not sure whether it is still operating. It started in 1818, just after the end of the War of 1812, and paused in 2018, 200 years.

http://www.marshall.k12.il.us/data/webcontent/449/file/realname/files/ferry.pdf

Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: epzik8 on December 21, 2018, 03:33:36 PM
That one ferry across the Susquehanna River in Pennsylvania.
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: GreenLanternCorps on December 21, 2018, 03:35:30 PM
Anderson Ferry, crosses the Ohio River between I-275 and I-75 in Cincinnati.

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0734213,-84.6333948,14.96z

Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: Max Rockatansky on December 21, 2018, 06:33:15 PM
Just featured the CA 84/Real McCoy II and CA 220/J-Mack ferry routes on Surewhynotnow:

https://surewhynotnow.blogspot.com/2018/12/california-ferry-routes-ca-84-over-real.html
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: Roadgeekteen on December 21, 2018, 08:57:11 PM
I took one on Quebec route 138.
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: bassoon1986 on December 21, 2018, 09:40:16 PM
Louisiana has 6 currently in service. 4 along the Mississippi River.


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Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: ipeters61 on December 22, 2018, 06:29:05 AM
Quote from: epzik8 on December 21, 2018, 03:33:36 PM
That one ferry across the Susquehanna River in Pennsylvania.
Is that this one?  I vaguely remember riding it with my grandparents several years ago.  https://www.ridehiawatha.com/
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: froggie on December 22, 2018, 08:08:33 AM
^ Not that one.  He's referring to the Millersburg Ferry (http://www.millersburgferry.org/) which connects Millersburg (end of US 209) to US 11/15 near Liverpool.
Title: Re: Inland Ferries (Besides Great Lakes)
Post by: webny99 on December 22, 2018, 11:22:46 AM
Quote from: froggie
Quote from: paulthemapguyI'll add the second ferry I've ever used--The Charlotte-Essex ferry across Lake Champlain, connecting Vermont and New York.
One of four such ferries across Lake Champlain.

Exactly what I clicked on this thread to say.

I also took the Charlotte-Essex ferry this past August, thereby entering Vermont for the first time!
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: webny99 on December 22, 2018, 11:26:47 AM
The Wolfe Island, ON - Cape Vincent, NY ferry, which I've taken several times, crosses an international border.

Any others that do this? and if so, which side is the checkpoint on? In the above example, customs are cleared on the US side.
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: oscar on December 22, 2018, 11:55:28 AM
Quote from: webny99 on December 22, 2018, 11:26:47 AM
The Wolfe Island, ON - Cape Vincent, NY ferry, which I've taken several times, crosses an international border.

Any others that do this? and if so, which side is the checkpoint on? In the above example, customs are cleared on the US side.

The one time I took the Wolfe Island crossing, Canada-bound traffic got its customs check on the Canadian side.

It seemed that every time that ferry vessel stops on the Canada side, the border guards will pick out one vehicle for a search. Since the vessel holds only a few cars, odds are high you will be selected, as happened to me. Fortunately, service is frequent enough for that short crossing that the search has to be done quickly, so the guards can get ready for their next victim when the vessel returns to the Canada side.

For international ferry crossings from BC to Alaska, or to the San Juan Islands of Washington state, the US customs check is done in BC. For the auto ferry from Yarmouth NS to Portland ME, the US customs check is done on the US side. I don't know how Canada-bound traffic is checked, other than for traffic from Alaska to BC, the customs check is done in BC. None of those crossings are "inland".
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: kphoger on December 22, 2018, 03:44:45 PM
Quote from: webny99 on December 22, 2018, 11:26:47 AM
The Wolfe Island, ON - Cape Vincent, NY ferry, which I've taken several times, crosses an international border.

Any others that do this? and if so, which side is the checkpoint on? In the above example, customs are cleared on the US side.

The only one I've taken is from Port Angeles (WA) to Victoria (BC), but that probably shouldn't be considered "inland".
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: Max Rockatansky on December 22, 2018, 04:18:42 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 22, 2018, 03:44:45 PM
Quote from: webny99 on December 22, 2018, 11:26:47 AM
The Wolfe Island, ON - Cape Vincent, NY ferry, which I've taken several times, crosses an international border.

Any others that do this? and if so, which side is the checkpoint on? In the above example, customs are cleared on the US side.

The only one I've taken is from Port Angeles (WA) to Victoria (BC), but that probably shouldn't be considered "inland".

But what about ferries like the Bremerton-Seattle Ferry which are on Puget Sound?
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: US 89 on December 22, 2018, 04:38:44 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 22, 2018, 04:18:42 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 22, 2018, 03:44:45 PM
Quote from: webny99 on December 22, 2018, 11:26:47 AM
The Wolfe Island, ON - Cape Vincent, NY ferry, which I've taken several times, crosses an international border.

Any others that do this? and if so, which side is the checkpoint on? In the above example, customs are cleared on the US side.

The only one I've taken is from Port Angeles (WA) to Victoria (BC), but that probably shouldn't be considered "inland".

But what about ferries like the Bremerton-Seattle Ferry which are on Puget Sound?

In my opinion, if it's at sea level, it's not inland.
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: ErmineNotyours on December 22, 2018, 11:17:05 PM
Keller Ferry in Washington State, SR 21: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keller_Ferry

Google Street View (https://goo.gl/maps/Zno9WqUMqzt)
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: Brandon on December 23, 2018, 07:26:42 AM
Quote from: US 89 on December 22, 2018, 04:38:44 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 22, 2018, 04:18:42 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 22, 2018, 03:44:45 PM
Quote from: webny99 on December 22, 2018, 11:26:47 AM
The Wolfe Island, ON - Cape Vincent, NY ferry, which I've taken several times, crosses an international border.

Any others that do this? and if so, which side is the checkpoint on? In the above example, customs are cleared on the US side.

The only one I've taken is from Port Angeles (WA) to Victoria (BC), but that probably shouldn't be considered "inland".

But what about ferries like the Bremerton-Seattle Ferry which are on Puget Sound?

In my opinion, if it's at sea level, it's not inland.

How about these?  They're near enough sea level, but distinctly inland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canal_Street_Ferry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalmette%E2%80%93Lower_Algiers_Ferry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belle_Chasse%E2%80%93Scarsdale_Ferry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointe_%C3%A0_la_Hache_Ferry
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: Beltway on December 23, 2018, 07:41:12 AM
Quote from: Brandon on December 23, 2018, 07:26:42 AM
Quote from: US 89 on December 22, 2018, 04:38:44 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 22, 2018, 04:18:42 PM
But what about ferries like the Bremerton-Seattle Ferry which are on Puget Sound?
In my opinion, if it's at sea level, it's not inland.
How about these?  They're near enough sea level, but distinctly inland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canal_Street_Ferry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalmette%E2%80%93Lower_Algiers_Ferry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belle_Chasse%E2%80%93Scarsdale_Ferry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointe_%C3%A0_la_Hache_Ferry

The Jamestown-Scotland Ferry is at sea level and is at least 60 miles by water from the Atlantic Ocean.

I don't see how Jamestown could not be considered as 'inland'.

http://www.virginiadot.org/travel/ferry-jamestown.asp

The James River is wide and deep enough all the way to Richmond that it is not above sea level until the rapids in downtown Richmond.
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: 1995hoo on December 23, 2018, 08:22:54 AM
Quote from: oscar on December 22, 2018, 11:55:28 AM
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For international ferry crossings from BC to Alaska, or to the San Juan Islands of Washington state, the US customs check is done in BC. For the auto ferry from Yarmouth NS to Portland ME, the US customs check is done on the US side. I don't know how Canada-bound traffic is checked, other than for traffic from Alaska to BC, the customs check is done in BC. None of those crossings are "inland".

Canada Customs has a location in Yarmouth when you disembark. Much bigger than the one in Portland with more lanes, so it's a shorter wait if you're not amongvfhe first few cars ofc.

There is an international ferry from Eastport, Maine, to Deer Island, New Brunswick. Short ride. I've never used it (I've used the two domestic ferries from Letete, NB, to Deer Island and from Deer Island to Campobello Island; I then took the bridge from Campobello Islabd to Lubec, Maine). I don't know what the Customs setup is. I also doubt I'd consider it an "inland"  ferry because it's very close to the mouth of the Bay of Fundy.
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: webny99 on December 23, 2018, 06:18:22 PM
Quote from: oscar on December 22, 2018, 11:55:28 AM
Quote from: webny99 on December 22, 2018, 11:26:47 AM
The Wolfe Island, ON - Cape Vincent, NY ferry, which I've taken several times, crosses an international border.

Any others that do this? and if so, which side is the checkpoint on? In the above example, customs are cleared on the US side.
The one time I took the Wolfe Island crossing, Canada-bound traffic got its customs check on the Canadian side.

My bad! Thus far, we've only done it heading the other direction, so I never paid much attention to (or maybe just never had an opportunity to see) what happens for traffic heading to Canada. Good to know.
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: Bruce on December 23, 2018, 06:40:22 PM
The Willamette River has one of the few remaining cable ferries in the Northwest: Buena Vista, OR.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DH164mSVoAU9gpa.jpg)

There used to be dozens along the Willamette and Columbia rivers, but they were replaced with bridges in the 1960s/1970s.
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: tchafe1978 on December 25, 2018, 08:32:13 PM
http://cassville.org/cassville_car_ferry

Cassville, WI has a ferry across the Mississippi River, connecting to Turkey River, IA.
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: OCGuy81 on December 26, 2018, 12:05:10 PM
Quote from: Bruce on December 23, 2018, 06:40:22 PM
The Willamette River has one of the few remaining cable ferries in the Northwest: Buena Vista, OR.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DH164mSVoAU9gpa.jpg)

There used to be dozens along the Willamette and Columbia rivers, but they were replaced with bridges in the 1960s/1970s.

I wasn't aware that was a cable ferry, I'll have to check it out sometime!

I know Oregon also has Willamette River ferries north of Salem (Wheatland) and there's one near Canby, OR as well. 
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: Bruce on December 27, 2018, 02:02:19 AM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on December 26, 2018, 12:05:10 PM
Quote from: Bruce on December 23, 2018, 06:40:22 PM
The Willamette River has one of the few remaining cable ferries in the Northwest: Buena Vista, OR.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DH164mSVoAU9gpa.jpg)

There used to be dozens along the Willamette and Columbia rivers, but they were replaced with bridges in the 1960s/1970s.

I wasn't aware that was a cable ferry, I'll have to check it out sometime!

I know Oregon also has Willamette River ferries north of Salem (Wheatland) and there's one near Canby, OR as well. 

Best part is that it's free for walk-on passengers and they sell pre-packaged ice cream bars on board. Was a life-saver when I was camped out with friends at Buena Vista for the eclipse.
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: cpzilliacus on December 27, 2018, 02:54:02 AM
Do the ferries on the Chesapeake Bay count?  Passenger-only operations, usually one or sometimes two round-trips per day.

In particular the ferries from Crisfield, Maryland to Smith Island, Maryland and to Tangier, Virginia.

There are also warm-season ferries from Onancock, Virginia to Tangier; from Reedville, Virginia (Western Shore) to Tangier; and from Point Lookout, Maryland (also Western Shore) to Smith Island.
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: Dougtone on January 03, 2019, 06:10:55 AM
I'll mention the Whitehaven Ferry, which is the oldest continuous operating ferry in the United States. It crosses the Wicomico River on Maryland's Eastern Shore.
https://www.visitmaryland.org/listing/attraction/whitehaven-ferry (https://www.visitmaryland.org/listing/attraction/whitehaven-ferry)

There's also the Glenora Ferry, which crosses the Bay of Quinte in the Prince Edward Peninsula of Ontario. This is part of the scenic Loyalist Parkway that runs from Kingston to Trenton, Ontario through the Prince Edward Peninsula.
http://prince-edward-county.com/item/glenora-ferry/ (http://prince-edward-county.com/item/glenora-ferry/)

Nova Scotia's Cape Breton Island has a couple of ferries that you may consider inland as well, the Englishtown and Little Narrow ferries.
https://novascotia.ca/tran/hottopics/ferries.asp (https://novascotia.ca/tran/hottopics/ferries.asp)
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: inkyatari on January 03, 2019, 08:48:53 AM
Isn't the ferry at Fort Ticonderoga a cable ferry?

https://www.forttiferry.com/
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: MikieTimT on January 05, 2019, 08:20:03 PM
Peel Ferry that carries AR 125 after it was flooded when the White River was dammed to make Bull Shoals Lake from Arkansas over to a mile shy of the Missouri border.  It's a free ferry run by ARDOT and in the summer has more motorcycles than cars on it.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.4940396,-92.7795831,3a,75y,313.16h,73.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUwOrQNtrLOIRi2dLUZyAUg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.4940396,-92.7795831,3a,75y,313.16h,73.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUwOrQNtrLOIRi2dLUZyAUg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: CardInLex on January 05, 2019, 08:24:33 PM
The Valley View Ferry is Kentucky's oldest continuously run business. It is a free ferry funded by the Kentucky Transportation Cabinet, Madison County Fiscal Court, Jessamine County Fiscal Court and the Lexington Fayette Urban County Government. It crosses the Kentucky River connecting Madison County south of the river to Jessamine County and Lexington-Fayette County north of the river.

https://goo.gl/maps/XLSEQjUYh1v
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: theline on January 05, 2020, 12:49:03 AM
Sorry for reviving such an old topic, but I have a legitimate addition. I don't think anyone mentioned the Saugatuck chain ferry (passengers only) across the Kalamazoo River. I've used it several times.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6582167,-86.2065397,279m/data=!3m1!1e3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6582167,-86.2065397,279m/data=!3m1!1e3)
Street view: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6583191,-86.2071255,3a,75y,109.7h,89.53t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sYQ7thajhxodCooOS0w2xKA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DYQ7thajhxodCooOS0w2xKA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D171.97318%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6583191,-86.2071255,3a,75y,109.7h,89.53t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sYQ7thajhxodCooOS0w2xKA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DYQ7thajhxodCooOS0w2xKA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D171.97318%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: SteveG1988 on January 05, 2020, 05:52:26 AM
Passenger only, riverlink between camden and philly.
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: amroad17 on January 05, 2020, 07:27:06 AM
There is the Brown-Augusta Ferry that travels from US 52 west of Higginsport, OH to Augusta, KY.
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: US 89 on January 06, 2020, 12:50:47 AM
Utah's SR 95 used a privately run ferry to cross the Colorado River all the way until 1966, when the Hite Crossing Bridge was completed.
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: Max Rockatansky on January 06, 2020, 08:06:41 AM
US 40 used to cross the Martinez-Benicia Ferry.  After US 40 was moved to the Carquinez Bridge the ferry route was used by CA 21:

https://www.gribblenation.org/2019/11/the-original-alignment-of-us-route-40.html?m=1
Title: Re: Inland/River Ferries (Besides Great Lakes, Estuaries)
Post by: davewiecking on December 28, 2020, 10:49:13 AM
White's Ferry closing: https://twitter.com/mymcmedia/status/1343583052736425986