Quote from: SP Cook on January 22, 2019, 12:30:10 PM
Super Sunday. Everybody, even people who don't like the NFL, watches the game, often at a party.
I haven't watched a Super Bowl since the last time the Bungles were in it, which was (I think) 1989. And you couldn't pay me to watch the NFL now until the commissioner grows a set and deals with the anti-Americanism emanating from the sidelines. I gave up the Bengals for NASCAR about 25 or so years ago, and quite honestly I'm getting ready to drop NASCAR for a Sunday afternoon nap unless they make a lot of changes to get the racing back as good as it used to be.
Quote from: SP Cook on January 22, 2019, 12:30:10 PM
Super Sunday. Everybody, even people who don't like the NFL, watches the game, often at a party.
Maybe in some parts of the country, but others couldn't care less about the game. I, for one, see no reason to watch it as my team has
never been to a Super Bowl (and probably won't until after the eventual heat death of the universe).
Quote from: Brandon on January 22, 2019, 03:01:10 PM
Quote from: SP Cook on January 22, 2019, 12:30:10 PM
Super Sunday. Everybody, even people who don't like the NFL, watches the game, often at a party.
Maybe in some parts of the country, but others couldn't care less about the game. I, for one, see no reason to watch it as my team has never been to a Super Bowl (and probably won't until after the eventual heat death of the universe).
People who smugly state "Oh, is there some sort of game today?" on Super Bowl Sunday are almost as insufferable as people who smugly state that they don't own a television or, once upon a time, would smugly state that they only watch PBS. Watch it or don't, who cares?
Quote from: Brandon on January 22, 2019, 03:01:10 PM
Quote from: SP Cook on January 22, 2019, 12:30:10 PM
Super Sunday. Everybody, even people who don't like the NFL, watches the game, often at a party.
Maybe in some parts of the country, but others couldn't care less about the game. I, for one, see no reason to watch it as my team has never been to a Super Bowl (and probably won't until after the eventual heat death of the universe).
The sb is more of an event than a game. People watch it who don't care about football because of the halftime show.
^^ there are those who watch the SB solely for its commercials.
Quote from: hbelkins on January 22, 2019, 02:47:24 PM
Quote from: SP Cook on January 22, 2019, 12:30:10 PM
Super Sunday. Everybody, even people who don't like the NFL, watches the game, often at a party.
I haven't watched a Super Bowl since the last time the Bungles were in it, which was (I think) 1989. And you couldn't pay me to watch the NFL now until the commissioner grows a set and deals with the anti-Americanism emanating from the sidelines.
Name what's happened this year on the sidelines.
That was an issue in 2017. In 2018, anyone still bugging about it is reflecting on 2017.
Quote from: Big John on January 22, 2019, 03:38:16 PM
^^ there are those who watch the SB solely for its commercials.
After a number of big years (thanks Budweiser, I think), notable commercials have really dropped in popularity. And I've enjoyed most of the halftime shows, even though people will always say "(whoever is playing) sucks, why don't they have (another performer that many other people will say sucks)".
Quote from: SP Cook on January 22, 2019, 12:30:10 PM
Super Sunday. Everybody, even people who don't like the NFL, watches the game, often at a party.
Hell. No.
I hate football, and I've only ever been to one football party, and I went into a different room where the game wasn't on.
Quote from: Big John on January 22, 2019, 03:38:16 PM
^^ there are those who watch the SB solely for its commercials.
Or for the National Anthem. Or so they can get offended at National Anthem protests. Or because it's what their friends are doing and they like to go to parties. People have many reasons to watch the Super Bowl.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 22, 2019, 03:41:40 PM
After a number of big years (thanks Budweiser, I think), notable commercials have really dropped in popularity. And I've enjoyed most of the halftime shows, even though people will always say "(whoever is playing) sucks, why don't they have (another performer that many other people will say sucks)".
The only way to even get me interested in the half time show would be to have Weird Al do it.
Quote from: inkyatari on January 22, 2019, 03:43:39 PM
The only way to even get me interested in the half time show would be to have Weird Al do it.
That would be freaking awesome!
Could sing about football injuries with "Living with a Hernia"
Quote from: kphoger on January 22, 2019, 03:46:07 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on January 22, 2019, 03:43:39 PM
The only way to even get me interested in the half time show would be to have Weird Al do it.
That would be freaking awesome!
It'd be cool if it was a medley of song parodies originally performed by artists that are former halftime show performers.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 22, 2019, 03:32:06 PM
Quote from: Brandon on January 22, 2019, 03:01:10 PM
Quote from: SP Cook on January 22, 2019, 12:30:10 PM
Super Sunday. Everybody, even people who don't like the NFL, watches the game, often at a party.
Maybe in some parts of the country, but others couldn't care less about the game. I, for one, see no reason to watch it as my team has never been to a Super Bowl (and probably won't until after the eventual heat death of the universe).
The sb is more of an event than a game. People watch it who don't care about football because of the halftime show.
Why would I want to watch a game, even the halftime show, with the deflatable Patriots in it?
Quote from: Brandon on January 22, 2019, 04:29:39 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 22, 2019, 03:32:06 PM
Quote from: Brandon on January 22, 2019, 03:01:10 PM
Quote from: SP Cook on January 22, 2019, 12:30:10 PM
Super Sunday. Everybody, even people who don't like the NFL, watches the game, often at a party.
Maybe in some parts of the country, but others couldn't care less about the game. I, for one, see no reason to watch it as my team has never been to a Super Bowl (and probably won't until after the eventual heat death of the universe).
The sb is more of an event than a game. People watch it who don't care about football because of the halftime show.
Why would I want to watch a game, even the halftime show, with the deflatable Patriots in it?
To root against the Pats. That's what I've done the past two years and what I'll do this year.
Quote from: abefroman329 on January 22, 2019, 04:30:48 PM
Quote from: Brandon on January 22, 2019, 04:29:39 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 22, 2019, 03:32:06 PM
Quote from: Brandon on January 22, 2019, 03:01:10 PM
Quote from: SP Cook on January 22, 2019, 12:30:10 PM
Super Sunday. Everybody, even people who don't like the NFL, watches the game, often at a party.
Maybe in some parts of the country, but others couldn't care less about the game. I, for one, see no reason to watch it as my team has never been to a Super Bowl (and probably won't until after the eventual heat death of the universe).
The sb is more of an event than a game. People watch it who don't care about football because of the halftime show.
Why would I want to watch a game, even the halftime show, with the deflatable Patriots in it?
To root against the Pats. That's what I've done the past two years and what I'll do this year.
Why would I want to root for an LA team?
Quote from: Brandon on January 22, 2019, 04:32:04 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on January 22, 2019, 04:30:48 PM
Quote from: Brandon on January 22, 2019, 04:29:39 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 22, 2019, 03:32:06 PM
Quote from: Brandon on January 22, 2019, 03:01:10 PM
Quote from: SP Cook on January 22, 2019, 12:30:10 PM
Super Sunday. Everybody, even people who don't like the NFL, watches the game, often at a party.
Maybe in some parts of the country, but others couldn't care less about the game. I, for one, see no reason to watch it as my team has never been to a Super Bowl (and probably won't until after the eventual heat death of the universe).
The sb is more of an event than a game. People watch it who don't care about football because of the halftime show.
Why would I want to watch a game, even the halftime show, with the deflatable Patriots in it?
To root against the Pats. That's what I've done the past two years and what I'll do this year.
Why would I want to root for an LA team?
Because they're playing the Pats.
Quote from: ftballfan on January 23, 2019, 09:18:45 AM
Brandon, I take it you're a Lions fan. Forward down the field!
Got the paper bag with the holes cut out for the eyes.
Quote from: Big John on January 22, 2019, 03:38:16 PM
^^ there are those who watch the SB solely for its commercials.
With the exception of Super Bowls XX and XLI, that would be me.
Quote from: slorydn1 on January 28, 2019, 02:02:28 PM
Quote from: Big John on January 22, 2019, 03:38:16 PM
^^ there are those who watch the SB solely for its commercials.
With the exception of Super Bowls XX and XLI, that would be me.
Bears fan in North Carolina?
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 28, 2019, 02:46:20 PM
Quote from: slorydn1 on January 28, 2019, 02:02:28 PM
Quote from: Big John on January 22, 2019, 03:38:16 PM
^^ there are those who watch the SB solely for its commercials.
With the exception of Super Bowls XX and XLI, that would be me.
Bears fan in North Carolina?
A former co-worker of mine, who's lived in Kentucky all his life, was a Bears fan.
And don't get me started on all the Dallas Cowgirls fans that aren't in Texas.
Quote from: hbelkins on January 28, 2019, 07:34:14 PM
And don't get me started on all the Dallas Cowgirls fans that aren't in Texas.
We have many of them in the D.C. area, such as Justice Thomas. For many, it's their way of rooting against their division rival the R*dsk*ns. For some, it goes waaay back to an openly racist former owner of that team.
Quote from: hbelkins on January 28, 2019, 07:34:14 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 28, 2019, 02:46:20 PM
Quote from: slorydn1 on January 28, 2019, 02:02:28 PM
Quote from: Big John on January 22, 2019, 03:38:16 PM
^^ there are those who watch the SB solely for its commercials.
With the exception of Super Bowls XX and XLI, that would be me.
Bears fan in North Carolina?
A former co-worker of mine, who's lived in Kentucky all his life, was a Bears fan.
And don't get me started on all the Dallas Cowgirls fans that aren't in Texas.
Well Kentucky doesn't have a team.
Cowboys and Steelers fans have a nationwide presence.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 28, 2019, 09:28:01 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 28, 2019, 07:34:14 PM
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Quote from: slorydn1 on January 28, 2019, 02:02:28 PM
Quote from: Big John on January 22, 2019, 03:38:16 PM
^^ there are those who watch the SB solely for its commercials.
With the exception of Super Bowls XX and XLI, that would be me.
Bears fan in North Carolina?
A former co-worker of mine, who's lived in Kentucky all his life, was a Bears fan.
And don't get me started on all the Dallas Cowgirls fans that aren't in Texas.
Well Kentucky doesn't have a team.
For most of Kentucky, the natural geographical team to support would be the Bungles. I'm told that before the Bungles came along, the Browns were very popular in eastern and central Kentucky. For the western part of the state, it was traditionally St. Louis when that city had an NFL team. The Tennessee Titans have siphoned some of the fans away, though, because of Nashville's proximity to much of western and west-central and south-central Kentucky. There are also a few Indianapolis Colts fan pockets along the Ohio River.
For baseball, most of Kentucky was Reds country for decades, with the western parts of the state gravitating to the Cardinals and/or Cubs. But when WTBS, Channel 17 out of Atlanta, got on so many cable systems with their Braves games, a lot of younger folks abandoned the Reds for the Braves. And the Cubs have gained a lot of bandwagon fans in the past few years in this area.
But the number of Kentuckians who are Alabama Crimson Tide football fans just astonishes me.
Quote from: hbelkins on January 29, 2019, 10:51:42 AM
For most of Kentucky, the natural geographical team to support would be the Bungles. I'm told that before the Bungles came along, the Browns were very popular in eastern and central Kentucky. For the western part of the state, it was traditionally St. Louis when that city had an NFL team. The Tennessee Titans have siphoned some of the fans away, though, because of Nashville's proximity to much of western and west-central and south-central Kentucky. There are also a few Indianapolis Colts fan pockets along the Ohio River.
Relative to the Browns, back in the day, before the AFL-NFL merger, the NFL teams had a highly regionalized system where you pretty much got "your" team for the one and only game, and the entire Ohio Valley (outside Pittsburgh, of course) was considered Browns
territory.
Similarly, the Redskins claimed the entire south. You still find Redskins fans 1000s of miles from DC.
RANT: In my TV market, which includes parts of WV, OH, and KY, the Bengals are, by FAR, the home team. But the local CBS station, which was owned by a Steelers fan until recently and is now corporate, carries the f***ing bandwagoners' team, the vile and repugnant Steelers, every week.
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For baseball, most of Kentucky was Reds country for decades, with the western parts of the state gravitating to the Cardinals and/or Cubs. But when WTBS, Channel 17 out of Atlanta, got on so many cable systems with their Braves games, a lot of younger folks abandoned the Reds for the Braves. And the Cubs have gained a lot of bandwagon fans in the past few years in this area.
You describe my part of WV as well. But the Braves fandom is a particular group, people who were in their youth during the WTBS era. No one younger or older, and the fandom is falling away as the Braves special situation is long over, the Reds are reclaiming their status as the universal team.
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But the number of Kentuckians who are Alabama Crimson Tide football fans just astonishes me.
I see that as a unique to the SEC thing. Unlike other conferences, after their team is out, they root for the champions (Alabama football - Kentucky basketball in most years) against the rest of the nation.
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 28, 2019, 09:28:01 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 28, 2019, 07:34:14 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 28, 2019, 02:46:20 PM
Quote from: slorydn1 on January 28, 2019, 02:02:28 PM
Quote from: Big John on January 22, 2019, 03:38:16 PM
^^ there are those who watch the SB solely for its commercials.
With the exception of Super Bowls XX and XLI, that would be me.
Bears fan in North Carolina?
A former co-worker of mine, who's lived in Kentucky all his life, was a Bears fan.
And don't get me started on all the Dallas Cowgirls fans that aren't in Texas.
Well Kentucky doesn't have a team.
For most of Kentucky, the natural geographical team to support would be the Bungles. I'm told that before the Bungles came along, the Browns were very popular in eastern and central Kentucky. For the western part of the state, it was traditionally St. Louis when that city had an NFL team. The Tennessee Titans have siphoned some of the fans away, though, because of Nashville's proximity to much of western and west-central and south-central Kentucky. There are also a few Indianapolis Colts fan pockets along the Ohio River.
For baseball, most of Kentucky was Reds country for decades, with the western parts of the state gravitating to the Cardinals and/or Cubs. But when WTBS, Channel 17 out of Atlanta, got on so many cable systems with their Braves games, a lot of younger folks abandoned the Reds for the Braves. And the Cubs have gained a lot of bandwagon fans in the past few years in this area.
But the number of Kentuckians who are Alabama Crimson Tide football fans just astonishes me.
The Bengals are so bad that I'm sure that fans only really extend into the Cinci suburbs.
The fact that their games are/were carried by superstation WGN for decades is also the reason why Cubs fandom outstrips White Sox fandom.
This may be the only football-related post I've made on here (I don't really care about sports), but...
Being a Cowboys fan is a lifestyle choice.
Quote from: SP Cook on January 29, 2019, 12:32:46 PM
Similarly, the Redskins claimed the entire south. You still find Redskins fans 1000s of miles from DC.
Not thousands of miles, but I can think of one pretty prominent North Carolinian who's a 'Skins fan. Dale Jr.
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Quote from: SP Cook on January 29, 2019, 12:32:46 PM
Similarly, the Redskins claimed the entire south. You still find Redskins fans 1000s of miles from DC.
Not thousands of miles, but I can think of one pretty prominent North Carolinian who's a 'Skins fan. Dale Jr.
The Redskins barely have DC anymore.
In general, NFL fandom has lagged behind college football fandom in the South for decades. Has to do with the fact that the NFL was forced to integrate before college football was.
Quote from: abefroman329 on January 30, 2019, 07:14:57 AM
In general, NFL fandom has lagged behind college football fandom in the South for decades. Has to do with the fact that the NFL was forced to integrate before college football was.
(https://thecomeback.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Football-electoral-map-2.png)
Link to article: https://thecomeback.com/nfl/the-electoral-map-of-football-the-nfl-vs-college-football.html
Here, red means college football is more popular, and blue means the NFL is more popular. The person who wrote the article received enough feedback to say that he probably used the wrong color for SD (he said there are no nearby major teams in either NFL or college football, so he defaulted to NFL) and MO. NV is blue due to the betting markets.
Only a few states are the "incorrect" color.
Race has exactly nothing to do with the relative popularity of NFL vs. NCAA football.
Quote from: abefroman329 on January 30, 2019, 07:14:57 AM
In general, NFL fandom has lagged behind college football fandom in the South for decades. Has to do with the fact that the NFL was forced to integrate before college football was.
There's other reasons that take precedent: NFL's popularity in rural markets didn't start up until the 1970s-1980s (if at all, in some markets), some people aren't going to identify with a city/team that's hundreds of miles away, and some folks are just going to be fans of only one team. Their favorite college team has been around for decades longer, and that's how it stays. Players are less likely to change college teams, and players don't feel the same allegiance to their professional teams. Race has to be so far down the list by this point in the 21st century...in that case, maybe they should just stick to watching downhill skiing and call it an afternoon.
In your smaller markets, there wasn't as much fuss over the threat of the 2011 NFL lockout/strike, so as long as college football wasn't affected.
Quote from: 1 on January 30, 2019, 08:15:19 AM
Quote from: abefroman329 on January 30, 2019, 07:14:57 AM
In general, NFL fandom has lagged behind college football fandom in the South for decades. Has to do with the fact that the NFL was forced to integrate before college football was.
(https://thecomeback.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Football-electoral-map-2.png)
Link to article: https://thecomeback.com/nfl/the-electoral-map-of-football-the-nfl-vs-college-football.html
Here, red means college football is more popular, and blue means the NFL is more popular. The person who wrote the article received enough feedback to say that he probably used the wrong color for SD (he said there are no nearby major teams in either NFL or college football, so he defaulted to NFL) and MO. NV is blue due to the betting markets.
Only a few states are the "incorrect" color.
Surprised that NM is blue.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 30, 2019, 10:55:58 AM
Surprised that NM is blue.
I'm not. No major college teams of its own, and near several NFL teams (Broncos to the north, Cardinals to the west, to a lesser extent Cowboys and Texans to the southeast).
Quote from: oscar on January 30, 2019, 11:09:30 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 30, 2019, 10:55:58 AM
Surprised that NM is blue.
I'm not. No major college teams of its own, and near several NFL teams (Broncos to the north, Cardinals to the west, to a lesser extent Cowboys and Texans to the southeast).
I feel like LA could go blue too because of the rukus after the call.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 30, 2019, 12:02:11 PM
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 30, 2019, 10:55:58 AM
Surprised that NM is blue.
I'm not. No major college teams of its own, and near several NFL teams (Broncos to the north, Cardinals to the west, to a lesser extent Cowboys and Texans to the southeast).
I feel like LA could go blue too because of the rukus after the call.
Louisiana is a toss up between the Saints and the LSU Tigers. In NOLA, it's the Saints first, followed by the Tigers. The rest of the state is the other way 'round.
Wisconsin is an interesting one. On Saturday, it's all red for the Badgers. On Sunday, it's all green and yellow for the Packers. Not really much one instead of the other (except for the guy here who roots for the Colts for some odd reason, despite being Wisconsin born and bred, and living there currently).
In Michigan, it's green and white (MSU) or toilet blue and piss yellow (um). While the Lie-Downs..er..Lions are there, the Honolulu blue and silver really hasn't done much since the 1950s.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 30, 2019, 12:02:11 PM
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 30, 2019, 10:55:58 AM
Surprised that NM is blue.
I'm not. No major college teams of its own, and near several NFL teams (Broncos to the north, Cardinals to the west, to a lesser extent Cowboys and Texans to the southeast).
I feel like LA could go blue too because of the rukus after the call.
New Orleans might be the strongest overall NFL market. Any listing of primetime game ratings generally features it as the highest rated neutral market (markets of teams not participating in the game).
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 30, 2019, 12:02:11 PM
I feel like LA could go blue too because of the rukus after the call.
You think people who don't care about the NFL will suddenly care about the NFL because of a bad call having negatively affected a team they didn't care about to begin with?
Quote from: 1 on January 30, 2019, 08:15:19 AM
Quote from: abefroman329 on January 30, 2019, 07:14:57 AM
In general, NFL fandom has lagged behind college football fandom in the South for decades. Has to do with the fact that the NFL was forced to integrate before college football was.
(https://thecomeback.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Football-electoral-map-2.png)
Link to article: https://thecomeback.com/nfl/the-electoral-map-of-football-the-nfl-vs-college-football.html
Here, red means college football is more popular, and blue means the NFL is more popular. The person who wrote the article received enough feedback to say that he probably used the wrong color for SD (he said there are no nearby major teams in either NFL or college football, so he defaulted to NFL) and MO. NV is blue due to the betting markets.
Only a few states are the "incorrect" color.
I think it's less a function of race and more a function of the population distribution across the US. Almost all large population centers lean heavily Democratic. Guess where most NFL teams are located.
To be clear, I'm talking about the knock-on effects of the spread between when the NFL integrated and when college sports integrated (and, consequently, the period of time when pro-segregation football fans could enjoy segregated college football but not segregated pro football), not modern attitudes towards race as exhibited by football fans. The NFL didn't really gain mass appeal until the 1980s in any part of the country.
^^ I would argue that pro football became popular in the 1960s and earlier in home markets.
Quote from: abefroman329 on January 30, 2019, 02:23:07 PM
To be clear, I'm talking about the knock-on effects of the spread between when the NFL integrated and when college sports integrated (and, consequently, the period of time when pro-segregation football fans could enjoy segregated college football but not segregated pro football), not modern attitudes towards race as exhibited by football fans. The NFL didn't really gain mass appeal until the 1980s in any part of the country.
1980s? Meh that seems late.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 30, 2019, 04:15:39 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on January 30, 2019, 02:23:07 PM
To be clear, I'm talking about the knock-on effects of the spread between when the NFL integrated and when college sports integrated (and, consequently, the period of time when pro-segregation football fans could enjoy segregated college football but not segregated pro football), not modern attitudes towards race as exhibited by football fans. The NFL didn't really gain mass appeal until the 1980s in any part of the country.
1980s? Meh that seems late.
Seems late to me too. I was born in 1981, and one of my very early memories was Super Bowl XX–during which my family and bunch of their friends got together for a party. I won the spread bet at 4 years old, but my parents didn't let me take the pot.
Ken Burns' documentary Baseball put it around the 60s as well.
This thread needs a new name.
I'm an ex-Lions fan, as I get older, I don't really have a team anymore, as I am more interested in playing the sports video games than I am keeping track of what is going on in the real life league. I do a home brew fantasy style sports league where I take one team, create a schedule for them and then play those games on the video game. I do the post season games at random. Games I can't get to are put into a simulator at whatifsports.com and the first score that comes up is the one that is taken.
I still will pay to see baseball, hockey, and college/minor league sports in person. You couldn't pay me to go to an NFL or NBA game. I believe that the NFL and NBA are rigged to a certain extent, as I believe the referees are instructed to call certain games, certain ways.
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Super Sunday. Everybody, even people who don't like the NFL, watches the game, often at a party.
Maybe in some parts of the country, but others couldn't care less about the game. I, for one, see no reason to watch it as my team has never been to a Super Bowl (and probably won't until after the eventual heat death of the universe).
People who smugly state "Oh, is there some sort of game today?" on Super Bowl Sunday are almost as insufferable...Watch it or don't, who cares?
There's also the folks who call it "hand-egg" or Superb Owl who think their joke is unique.
My team hasn't been in it for over 30 years, but I still like to see the best two (well, usually) teams play.
I don't know about making Super Bowl a holiday; it's already on a Sunday. There's no reason to air the game at 6:00 pm Eastern Time. Nobody's doing all that much on an early-February afternoon, and 10:00 pm is too late for a sporting event to end when there is work and school the following day. Obviously, this isn't as big a deal for those in Mountain and Pacific time zones, but it is for 2/3 of the United States. Put it back to 3:00 pm so families can watch the whole thing as a family or just have it on Saturday night so the over-zealous celebrants can be fresh for Monday. There's already a 14-day gap between games, and taking away one day isn't going to matter.
Quote from: ce929wax on January 30, 2019, 05:50:16 PM
I'm an ex-Lions fan, as I get older, I don't really have a team anymore, as I am more interested in playing the sports video games than I am keeping track of what is going on in the real life league. I do a home brew fantasy style sports league where I take one team, create a schedule for them and then play those games on the video game. I do the post season games at random. Games I can't get to are put into a simulator at whatifsports.com and the first score that comes up is the one that is taken.
I still will pay to see baseball, hockey, and college/minor league sports in person. You couldn't pay me to go to an NFL or NBA game. I believe that the NFL and NBA are rigged to a certain extent, as I believe the referees are instructed to call certain games, certain ways.
Of course you think the NFL is rigged. You are a Lions fan.
Quote from: formulanone on January 30, 2019, 06:06:10 PM
I don't know about making Super Bowl a holiday; it's already on a Sunday.
I think the more common suggestion is to make the following Monday a holiday. I think that idea is offensive. As you say, the NFL can move the game back a few hours on Sunday afternoon (like 3pm EST, when the conference championships start), or to Saturday evening, so people can celebrate as much as they like and still make it into work Monday morning. I've seen the NFL's explanations of why it has to be on Sunday evening, but they still leave me convinced that the NFL is being inconsiderate of working people and their employers, to the benefit mainly of the few domestic fans in the Alaska and Hawaii time zones.
I regularly attend Super Bowl-watching parties, which include people who aren't football fans but are there to socialize or watch the commercials. People who don't have a strong rooting interest in the game start drifting away after the halftime show (at the risk of missing a great third-quarter commercial -- my favorite one ever aired only once, in the third quarter). It's worse still for party hosts who have to go to work the following morning, especially if the game goes into overtime, and if people want to watch the trophy presentation (after Super Bowl LI, also to see Roger Goodell booed off the stage).
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Quote from: formulanone on January 30, 2019, 06:06:10 PM
I don't know about making Super Bowl a holiday; it's already on a Sunday.
I think the more common suggestion is to make the following Monday a holiday.
I've heard it too, and the idea of creating a holiday out of a TV event borders on ludicrous. I don't think catering to poor decision-making is a good angle, and few businesses are going to go along with that.
I get the idea that for many of the attendees (and hangers-on) at the actual Super Bowl event, post-game traffic and other happenings probably make things even more difficult for trying to get to work the next day. I would think that those who make an event out of going to that game would take off the next day, unless they happen to live in close proximity to the event. That's an even better reason to put it on Saturday.
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I don't know about making Super Bowl a holiday; it's already on a Sunday.
I think the more common suggestion is to make the following Monday a holiday.
I've heard it too, and the idea of creating a holiday out of a TV event borders on ludicrous.
Not even that, a holiday out of a TV event for the benefit of a for-profit corporation. If we do that, can I have a holiday to celebrate the next sale my business runs?
Take out brady's knees and end his career. Fitting punishment for being a cheater.
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Quote from: SP Cook on January 22, 2019, 12:30:10 PM
Super Sunday. Everybody, even people who don't like the NFL, watches the game, often at a party.
Maybe in some parts of the country, but others couldn't care less about the game. I, for one, see no reason to watch it as my team has never been to a Super Bowl (and probably won't until after the eventual heat death of the universe).
People who smugly state "Oh, is there some sort of game today?" on Super Bowl Sunday are almost as insufferable...Watch it or don't, who cares?
There's also the folks who call it "hand-egg" or Superb Owl who think their joke is unique.
My team hasn't been in it for over 30 years, but I still like to see the best two (well, usually) teams play.
I don't know about making Super Bowl a holiday; it's already on a Sunday. There's no reason to air the game at 6:00 pm Eastern Time. Nobody's doing all that much on an early-February afternoon, and 10:00 pm is too late for a sporting event to end when there is work and school the following day. Obviously, this isn't as big a deal for those in Mountain and Pacific time zones, but it is for 2/3 of the United States. Put it back to 3:00 pm so families can watch the whole thing as a family or just have it on Saturday night so the over-zealous celebrants can be fresh for Monday. There's already a 14-day gap between games, and taking away one day isn't going to matter.
3 pm ET is 12 noon PT, which is too early of a start. They need to find a block of time where they can maximize viewership nationwide, and 6 pm ET/3 pm PT must be it.
Quote from: renegade on January 31, 2019, 12:00:08 AM
Take out brady's knees and end his career. Fitting punishment for being a cheater.
Let the hate flow through you.
Quote from: renegade on January 31, 2019, 12:00:08 AM
Take out brady's knees and end his career. Fitting punishment for being a cheater.
What's your problem?
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 31, 2019, 12:00:39 PM
Quote from: renegade on January 31, 2019, 12:00:08 AM
Take out brady's knees and end his career. Fitting punishment for being a cheater.
What's your problem?
That should be obvious.
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 31, 2019, 12:00:39 PM
Quote from: renegade on January 31, 2019, 12:00:08 AM
Take out brady's knees and end his career. Fitting punishment for being a cheater.
What's your problem?
That should be obvious.
When did we hurt the Lions? Or are you a Jets fan?
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 30, 2019, 06:13:56 PM
Quote from: ce929wax on January 30, 2019, 05:50:16 PM
I'm an ex-Lions fan, as I get older, I don't really have a team anymore, as I am more interested in playing the sports video games than I am keeping track of what is going on in the real life league. I do a home brew fantasy style sports league where I take one team, create a schedule for them and then play those games on the video game. I do the post season games at random. Games I can't get to are put into a simulator at whatifsports.com and the first score that comes up is the one that is taken.
I still will pay to see baseball, hockey, and college/minor league sports in person. You couldn't pay me to go to an NFL or NBA game. I believe that the NFL and NBA are rigged to a certain extent, as I believe the referees are instructed to call certain games, certain ways.
Of course you think the NFL is rigged. You are a Lions fan.
Fans or former fans of 31 teams seem to agree. Blinders off.
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I'm an ex-Lions fan, as I get older, I don't really have a team anymore, as I am more interested in playing the sports video games than I am keeping track of what is going on in the real life league. I do a home brew fantasy style sports league where I take one team, create a schedule for them and then play those games on the video game. I do the post season games at random. Games I can't get to are put into a simulator at whatifsports.com and the first score that comes up is the one that is taken.
I still will pay to see baseball, hockey, and college/minor league sports in person. You couldn't pay me to go to an NFL or NBA game. I believe that the NFL and NBA are rigged to a certain extent, as I believe the referees are instructed to call certain games, certain ways.
Of course you think the NFL is rigged. You are a Lions fan.
Fans or former fans of 31 teams seem to agree. Blinders off.
Rams fans? LOL if all other 31 teams think that the league is rigged than the Patriots think so to.
Quote from: oscar on January 30, 2019, 07:24:34 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 30, 2019, 06:06:10 PM
I don't know about making Super Bowl a holiday; it's already on a Sunday.
I think the more common suggestion is to make the following Monday a holiday. I think that idea is offensive. As you say, the NFL can move the game back a few hours on Sunday afternoon (like 3pm EST, when the conference championships start), or to Saturday evening, so people can celebrate as much as they like and still make it into work Monday morning. I've seen the NFL's explanations of why it has to be on Sunday evening, but they still leave me convinced that the NFL is being inconsiderate of working people and their employers, to the benefit mainly of the few domestic fans in the Alaska and Hawaii time zones.
It could be worse. They keep putting the college football championship game at 8 PM EST on a Monday, which is just outright hostile to pretty much all fans. Move it to Saturday where it belongs.
There's a total of 1 game that starts the entire regular season around 6pm on a Sunday: One of the Conference Championship games. So if that time slot is so great, why not have more games with that time slot during the regular season?
Quote from: Eth on January 31, 2019, 06:28:43 PM
It could be worse. They keep putting the college football championship game at 8 PM EST on a Monday, which is just outright hostile to pretty much all fans. Move it to Saturday where it belongs.
I have never understood the reason, logic and/or obsession with having both the football AND basketball college national championship games on a Monday night, especially since there is typically no holiday the day after.
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Quote from: Eth on January 31, 2019, 06:28:43 PM
It could be worse. They keep putting the college football championship game at 8 PM EST on a Monday, which is just outright hostile to pretty much all fans. Move it to Saturday where it belongs.
I have never understood the reason, logic and/or obsession with having both the football AND basketball college national championship games on a Monday night, especially since there is typically no holiday the day after.
Maybe it has to do with universities being closed on Sundays. (The one I go to is mostly open with a few things closed, but I don't know if that's the case everywhere.)
Quote from: tdindy88 on January 31, 2019, 08:03:52 PM
Quote from: Eth on January 31, 2019, 06:28:43 PM
It could be worse. They keep putting the college football championship game at 8 PM EST on a Monday, which is just outright hostile to pretty much all fans. Move it to Saturday where it belongs.
I have never understood the reason, logic and/or obsession with having both the football AND basketball college national championship games on a Monday night, especially since there is typically no holiday the day after.
Well, with basketball, the tournament games are either Thursday-Saturday, or Friday-Sunday for the first rounds, so if you wanted to play the finals on a weekend, you'd have to have the semis on a weekday. The big issue with basketball to me is the late start time. The game doesn't tip off until around 9:20. Factor in a normal two-hour window for a college basketball game, and you're looking at the game being over around 11:20. The omnipresent media timeouts add even more time, as they certainly feel long than a normal 60-second timeout. (The NCAA really should make a rule that if a team calls a timeout within a one-minute window of the every-four-minute TV timeouts, there will be no extra TV timeout.) If there are lots of clock stoppages for fouls or turnovers, it goes longer. And overtime? It's usually after midnight by the time they play "One Shining Moment." You could move the game up to 8 p.m., but that means a 5 p.m. start on the west coast. Perhaps there should be a compromise and start at 8 unless a Pacific Time Zone team's in the finals.
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Take out brady's knees and end his career. Fitting punishment for being a cheater.
What's your problem?
That should be obvious.
When did we hurt the Lions? Or are you a Jets fan?
I guess dislike of the Patriots is kinda deflating?
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Quote from: renegade on January 31, 2019, 12:00:08 AM
Take out brady's knees and end his career. Fitting punishment for being a cheater.
What's your problem?
That should be obvious.
When did we hurt the Lions? Or are you a Jets fan?
I guess dislike of the Patriots is kinda deflating?
I think that we will retire this discussion early.
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 31, 2019, 12:00:39 PM
Quote from: renegade on January 31, 2019, 12:00:08 AM
Take out brady's knees and end his career. Fitting punishment for being a cheater.
What's your problem?
That should be obvious.
When did we hurt the Lions? Or are you a Jets fan?
I guess dislike of the Patriots is kinda deflating?
I think that we will retire this discussion early.
It's obviously been recorded.
New England - Cheats. Because they have been caught twice, it is reasonable to assume they have done it 1000s of time in all sorts of schemes. As such, it is really impossible to compare the things they have done to other teams which follow the rules. It is like a good student who cribs the test. Maybe he was smart enough to get As fairly, but we can never know that.
Game times - All finals in every sport start far too late. 77% of people in the USA live in the Eastern or Central time zones. (If you include Canada, which has teams in every sport except the NCAA and the NFL, the %age is yet more skewed eastward). No game of national significance should start after 8 ET. If someone chooses to live in the west, they need to take off early. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. (Star Trek reference there).
To me, the dumbest start time is the NFL's regular season Sunday Night game. Again, it is Sunday Night, so work is not an issue for most people. The late game starts at 4:25 ET, so it should be over in 3 hours, 7:25. So a very long game is certainly done by 7:45. And then they sit around and wait until 8:25 to start the next game. Why?
This seems like a good opportunity to remind everyone why the Mountain time zone is the best. :sombrero:
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 31, 2019, 12:00:39 PM
Quote from: renegade on January 31, 2019, 12:00:08 AM
Take out brady's knees and end his career. Fitting punishment for being a cheater.
What's your problem?
That should be obvious.
When did we hurt the Lions? Or are you a Jets fan?
I guess dislike of the Patriots is kinda deflating?
I think that we will retire this discussion early.
It's obviously been recorded.
Yeah, and they will see you padding the discussion with talk at the wrong time.
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 31, 2019, 12:00:39 PM
Quote from: renegade on January 31, 2019, 12:00:08 AM
Take out brady's knees and end his career. Fitting punishment for being a cheater.
What's your problem?
That should be obvious.
When did we hurt the Lions? Or are you a Jets fan?
I guess dislike of the Patriots is kinda deflating?
I think that we will retire this discussion early.
It's obviously been recorded.
Yeah, and they will see you padding the discussion with talk at the wrong time.
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Quote from: renegade on January 31, 2019, 12:28:57 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 31, 2019, 12:00:39 PM
Quote from: renegade on January 31, 2019, 12:00:08 AM
Take out brady's knees and end his career. Fitting punishment for being a cheater.
What's your problem?
That should be obvious.
When did we hurt the Lions? Or are you a Jets fan?
I guess dislike of the Patriots is kinda deflating?
I think that we will retire this discussion early.
It's obviously been recorded.
Yeah, and they will see you padding the discussion with talk at the wrong time.
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I was continuing the joke.
Sometimes with my home brew sports leagues I wish is was in Mountain Time or at least Central. When I have games on the west coast they start at 10 or 10:30 and I am up until 12:30 (sometimes 1) playing the game.
Quote from: SP Cook on February 01, 2019, 03:34:55 PM
New England - Cheats. Because they have been caught twice, it is reasonable to assume they have done it 1000s of time in all sorts of schemes. As such, it is really impossible to compare the things they have done to other teams which follow the rules. It is like a good student who cribs the test. Maybe he was smart enough to get As fairly, but we can never know that.
You probably saw the story. Some kid in Lexington won a science fair by proving that Brady is a cheater.
And then there was the TV producer in Pittsburgh who got fired for putting up a "Known Cheater" graphic beneath a picture of Brady.
And from what I hear, Patriots fans are in danger of getting kicked out of the chat room just for that simple reason.
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Quote from: Big John on January 22, 2019, 03:38:16 PM
^^ there are those who watch the SB solely for its commercials.
With the exception of Super Bowls XX and XLI, that would be me.
Bears fan in North Carolina?
I moved here from Chicago in 1991.
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^^ there are those who watch the SB solely for its commercials.
With the exception of Super Bowls XX and XLI, that would be me.
Bears fan in North Carolina?
I moved here from Chicago in 1991.
Cool. And the Bears have sucked mostly ever since. You needed to stay, and by leaving you cursed them.
You are aware that for the most part the Shitriots sucked until Tom Brady and Bill Belicheck (sp?) took over, right?
Until then, their claim to fame was a sexual harassment scandal in 1990 and losing to the Bears in SB XX and the Packers in SB XXXI. When Brady retires and Belicheck gives it up, I imagine they will go back to instant mediocrity. I'd be more proud of the Red Sox and Celtics if I were you.
Quote from: ce929wax on February 03, 2019, 10:23:47 PM
You are aware that for the most part the Shitriots sucked until Tom Brady and Bill Belicheck (sp?) took over, right?
Until then, their claim to fame was a sexual harassment scandal in 1990 and losing to the Bears in SB XX and the Packers in SB XXXI. When Brady retires and Belicheck gives it up, I imagine they will go back to instant mediocrity. I'd be more proud of the Red Sox and Celtics if I were you.
As a former New Yorker I'm with you on that one.
I'm not going to argue against the well-known fact that the Pats cheated in 2014, but . . .
a. nobody would care if Pete Carroll hadn't royally screwed up in the Super Bowl.
b. Tom Brady didn't have a Tom Brady game with the deflated balls: 23-35, 226 yards, one interception.
c. Legarrette Blount ran it 30 times for 148 yards. The deflated balls only help in the passing game, but NE ran it more times than they threw it.
d. The Patriots won 45-7. Andrew Luck and the Colts, one of the best offenses in the league that year, didn't do anything when they had the ball.
Quote from: thspfc on March 31, 2019, 04:29:23 PM
I'm not going to argue against the well-known fact that the Pats cheated in 2014, but . . .
a. nobody would care if Pete Carroll hadn't royally screwed up in the Super Bowl.
b. Tom Brady didn't have a Tom Brady game with the deflated balls: 23-35, 226 yards, one interception.
c. Legarrette Blount ran it 30 times for 148 yards. The deflated balls only help in the passing game, but NE ran it more times than they threw it.
d. The Patriots won 45-7. Andrew Luck and the Colts, one of the best offenses in the league that year, didn't do anything when they had the ball.
So what? Also, why did you bother changing the thread title?
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 04:53:15 PM
Quote from: thspfc on March 31, 2019, 04:29:23 PM
I'm not going to argue against the well-known fact that the Pats cheated in 2014, but . . .
a. nobody would care if Pete Carroll hadn't royally screwed up in the Super Bowl.
b. Tom Brady didn't have a Tom Brady game with the deflated balls: 23-35, 226 yards, one interception.
c. Legarrette Blount ran it 30 times for 148 yards. The deflated balls only help in the passing game, but NE ran it more times than they threw it.
d. The Patriots won 45-7. Andrew Luck and the Colts, one of the best offenses in the league that year, didn't do anything when they had the ball.
So what? Also, why did you bother changing the thread title?
The OP did.
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Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 04:53:15 PM
Quote from: thspfc on March 31, 2019, 04:29:23 PM
I'm not going to argue against the well-known fact that the Pats cheated in 2014, but . . .
a. nobody would care if Pete Carroll hadn't royally screwed up in the Super Bowl.
b. Tom Brady didn't have a Tom Brady game with the deflated balls: 23-35, 226 yards, one interception.
c. Legarrette Blount ran it 30 times for 148 yards. The deflated balls only help in the passing game, but NE ran it more times than they threw it.
d. The Patriots won 45-7. Andrew Luck and the Colts, one of the best offenses in the league that year, didn't do anything when they had the ball.
So what? Also, why did you bother changing the thread title?
The OP did.
I gotcha now.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 04:53:15 PM
Quote from: thspfc on March 31, 2019, 04:29:23 PM
I'm not going to argue against the well-known fact that the Pats cheated in 2014, but . . .
a. nobody would care if Pete Carroll hadn't royally screwed up in the Super Bowl.
b. Tom Brady didn't have a Tom Brady game with the deflated balls: 23-35, 226 yards, one interception.
c. Legarrette Blount ran it 30 times for 148 yards. The deflated balls only help in the passing game, but NE ran it more times than they threw it.
d. The Patriots won 45-7. Andrew Luck and the Colts, one of the best offenses in the league that year, didn't do anything when they had the ball.
So what? Also, why did you bother changing the thread title?
I didn't change the thread title, that was my first post in this thread. And my point is, the Pats may have deflated the balls, but it doesn't change the fact that they're a great team who knows how to win, and you have to respect them for that. This is coming from somebody who's favorite NFL team is their current fantasy football team.
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Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 04:53:15 PM
Quote from: thspfc on March 31, 2019, 04:29:23 PM
I'm not going to argue against the well-known fact that the Pats cheated in 2014, but . . .
a. nobody would care if Pete Carroll hadn't royally screwed up in the Super Bowl.
b. Tom Brady didn't have a Tom Brady game with the deflated balls: 23-35, 226 yards, one interception.
c. Legarrette Blount ran it 30 times for 148 yards. The deflated balls only help in the passing game, but NE ran it more times than they threw it.
d. The Patriots won 45-7. Andrew Luck and the Colts, one of the best offenses in the league that year, didn't do anything when they had the ball.
So what? Also, why did you bother changing the thread title?
I didn't change the thread title, that was my first post in this thread. And my point is, the Pats may have deflated the balls, but it doesn't change the fact that they're a great team who knows how to win, and you have to respect them for that. This is coming from somebody who's favorite NFL team is their current fantasy football team.
I already replied about that. Your opinion is your opinion sir. I don't play fantasy football so I've got no comment on that.
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Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 04:53:15 PM
Quote from: thspfc on March 31, 2019, 04:29:23 PM
I'm not going to argue against the well-known fact that the Pats cheated in 2014, but . . .
a. nobody would care if Pete Carroll hadn't royally screwed up in the Super Bowl.
b. Tom Brady didn't have a Tom Brady game with the deflated balls: 23-35, 226 yards, one interception.
c. Legarrette Blount ran it 30 times for 148 yards. The deflated balls only help in the passing game, but NE ran it more times than they threw it.
d. The Patriots won 45-7. Andrew Luck and the Colts, one of the best offenses in the league that year, didn't do anything when they had the ball.
So what? Also, why did you bother changing the thread title?
I didn't change the thread title, that was my first post in this thread. And my point is, the Pats may have deflated the balls, but it doesn't change the fact that they're a great team who knows how to win, and you have to respect them for that. This is coming from somebody who's favorite NFL team is their current fantasy football team.
I already replied about that. Your opinion is your opinion sir. I don't play fantasy football so I've got no comment on that.
You asked me to state my reasons. At least that's what I got by "so what".
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Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 05:10:23 PM
Quote from: thspfc on March 31, 2019, 05:08:54 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 04:53:15 PM
Quote from: thspfc on March 31, 2019, 04:29:23 PM
I'm not going to argue against the well-known fact that the Pats cheated in 2014, but . . .
a. nobody would care if Pete Carroll hadn't royally screwed up in the Super Bowl.
b. Tom Brady didn't have a Tom Brady game with the deflated balls: 23-35, 226 yards, one interception.
c. Legarrette Blount ran it 30 times for 148 yards. The deflated balls only help in the passing game, but NE ran it more times than they threw it.
d. The Patriots won 45-7. Andrew Luck and the Colts, one of the best offenses in the league that year, didn't do anything when they had the ball.
So what? Also, why did you bother changing the thread title?
I didn't change the thread title, that was my first post in this thread. And my point is, the Pats may have deflated the balls, but it doesn't change the fact that they're a great team who knows how to win, and you have to respect them for that. This is coming from somebody who's favorite NFL team is their current fantasy football team.
I already replied about that. Your opinion is your opinion sir. I don't play fantasy football so I've got no comment on that.
You asked me to state my reasons. At least that's what I got by "so what".
I already replied to someone else about that. Quit replying so I can quit replying. Thank you.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 05:34:49 PM
I already replied to someone else about that. Quit replying so I can quit replying. Thank you.
No.
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Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 05:34:49 PM
I already replied to someone else about that. Quit replying so I can quit replying. Thank you.
No.
Should I reply now?
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Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 05:34:49 PM
I already replied to someone else about that. Quit replying so I can quit replying. Thank you.
No.
I wasn't even talking to you. Geez.
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Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 05:34:49 PM
I already replied to someone else about that. Quit replying so I can quit replying. Thank you.
No.
I wasn't even talking to you. Geez.
You are now.
Yeah but that's besides the point. What are we even supposed to be talking about now? This thread is going to be locked in no time.
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Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 05:34:49 PM
I already replied to someone else about that. Quit replying so I can quit replying. Thank you.
No.
I wasn't even talking to you. Geez.
You are now.
Yeah but that's besides the point. What are we even supposed to be talking about now? This thread is going to be locked in no time.
We're talking about the inability to stop talking.
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Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 31, 2019, 07:06:47 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 05:34:49 PM
I already replied to someone else about that. Quit replying so I can quit replying. Thank you.
No.
I wasn't even talking to you. Geez.
You are now.
Yeah but that's besides the point. What are we even supposed to be talking about now? This thread is going to be locked in no time.
We're talking about the inability to stop talking.
Yeah good point, I guess this thread will be locked in no time.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 07:24:45 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 31, 2019, 07:24:02 PM
We're talking about the inability to stop talking.
Yeah good point, I guess this thread will be locked in no time.
Maybe, maybe not.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 07:28:37 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 31, 2019, 07:26:10 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 07:24:45 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 31, 2019, 07:24:02 PM
We're talking about the inability to stop talking.
Yeah good point, I guess this thread will be locked in no time.
Maybe, maybe not.
We shall see.
I dunno. We haven't descended that far into silliness.
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 31, 2019, 07:30:42 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 07:28:37 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 31, 2019, 07:26:10 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 07:24:45 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 31, 2019, 07:24:02 PM
We're talking about the inability to stop talking.
Yeah good point, I guess this thread will be locked in no time.
Maybe, maybe not.
We shall see.
I dunno. We haven't descended that far into silliness.
Neither do I.
Indeed.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 07:32:07 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 31, 2019, 07:30:42 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 07:28:37 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 31, 2019, 07:26:10 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 07:24:45 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 31, 2019, 07:24:02 PM
We're talking about the inability to stop talking.
Yeah good point, I guess this thread will be locked in no time.
Maybe, maybe not.
We shall see.
I dunno. We haven't descended that far into silliness.
Neither do I.
Indeed.
Now we have.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on March 31, 2019, 07:33:36 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 07:32:07 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 31, 2019, 07:30:42 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 07:28:37 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 31, 2019, 07:26:10 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 07:24:45 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 31, 2019, 07:24:02 PM
We're talking about the inability to stop talking.
Yeah good point, I guess this thread will be locked in no time.
Maybe, maybe not.
We shall see.
I dunno. We haven't descended that far into silliness.
Neither do I.
Indeed.
Now we have.
I guess so.
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 31, 2019, 07:39:31 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 07:34:31 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on March 31, 2019, 07:33:36 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 07:32:07 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 31, 2019, 07:30:42 PM
I dunno. We haven't descended that far into silliness.
Neither do I.
Indeed.
Now we have.
I guess so.
Maybe.
Maybe not, I don't know.
Fuck pooing.
Quote from: NE2 on March 31, 2019, 07:44:05 PM
Fuck pooing.
Ok now this thread is going to be locked.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 07:34:31 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on March 31, 2019, 07:33:36 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 07:32:07 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 31, 2019, 07:30:42 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 07:28:37 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 31, 2019, 07:26:10 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 07:24:45 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 31, 2019, 07:24:02 PM
We're talking about the inability to stop talking.
Yeah good point, I guess this thread will be locked in no time.
Maybe, maybe not.
We shall see.
I dunno. We haven't descended that far into silliness.
Neither do I.
Indeed.
Now we have.
I guess so.
wow, a lot has happened in a few hours.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 07:55:41 PM
Quote from: NE2 on March 31, 2019, 07:44:05 PM
Fuck pooing.
Ok now this thread is going to be locked.
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
Quote from: thspfc on March 31, 2019, 09:32:56 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 07:34:31 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on March 31, 2019, 07:33:36 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 07:32:07 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 31, 2019, 07:30:42 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 07:28:37 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 31, 2019, 07:26:10 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 07:24:45 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 31, 2019, 07:24:02 PM
We're talking about the inability to stop talking.
Yeah good point, I guess this thread will be locked in no time.
Maybe, maybe not.
We shall see.
I dunno. We haven't descended that far into silliness.
Neither do I.
Indeed.
Now we have.
I guess so.
wow, a lot has happened in a few hours.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 07:55:41 PM
Quote from: NE2 on March 31, 2019, 07:44:05 PM
Fuck pooing.
Ok now this thread is going to be locked.
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
I know, right?