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Title: Seattle Tunnel entrance using ramp metering?
Post by: Amtrakprod on February 05, 2019, 08:03:17 PM
I just noticed this King 5 clip with a ramp metering sign right above the tunnel entrance, thoughts? Start video at 56
https://youtu.be/VkhSU6PFFhI?t=56
Title: Re: Seattle Tunnel entrance using ramp metering?
Post by: ErmineNotyours on February 05, 2019, 10:30:25 PM
Northbound, the tunnel has two entrances: the mainline, and this entrance ramp.  It's just the entrance ramp that is metered.  I didn't realize this when I rode a bus through it, twice!  I should have been looking for an in-tunnel ramp merge.  I hopefully won't miss it when I finally drive the thing and I'm facing forwards.

(Jakeroot pointed out that the lights do not have backplates.  They don't need them here for sun blockage, but they could use them to look more authoritative.)
Title: Re: Seattle Tunnel entrance using ramp metering?
Post by: ErmineNotyours on February 05, 2019, 10:34:33 PM
I noticed the north end of the tunnel had an optimistic "2015" date stamped on it.  It looks like the same date is stamped on the entrance here.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7926/33125912088_cd9220f871_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/StdXzj)New SR-99 Tunnel entrance ramp (https://flic.kr/p/StdXzj) by Arthur Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116988743@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Seattle Tunnel entrance using ramp metering?
Post by: jakeroot on February 05, 2019, 10:36:12 PM
Drove it today.

Can confirm that none of the ramps or mainline entrances have meters, except the northbound on-ramp from Colorado Ave S.

The 6th Ave N on-ramp is extremely short, plus it's near many streets with RIRO connections to 99; wouldn't have been worth it to design it for meters, I'm thinking.
Title: Re: Seattle Tunnel entrance using ramp metering?
Post by: Amtrakprod on February 06, 2019, 06:59:54 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 05, 2019, 10:36:12 PM
Drove it today.

Can confirm that none of the ramps or mainline entrances have meters, except the northbound on-ramp from Colorado Ave S.

The 6th Ave N on-ramp is extremely short, plus it's near many streets with RIRO connections to 99; wouldn't have been worth it to design it for meters, I'm thinking.
How was the new tunnel?


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Title: Re: Seattle Tunnel entrance using ramp metering?
Post by: jakeroot on February 06, 2019, 08:46:30 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on February 06, 2019, 06:59:54 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 05, 2019, 10:36:12 PM
Drove it today.

Can confirm that none of the ramps or mainline entrances have meters, except the northbound on-ramp from Colorado Ave S.

The 6th Ave N on-ramp is extremely short, plus it's near many streets with RIRO connections to 99; wouldn't have been worth it to design it for meters, I'm thinking.
How was the new tunnel?

I thought it was great. The concrete was slightly bumpier than I expected, but overall, I I think it's wonderful. Traffic levels today were more normal than Monday and Tuesday, due to snow. As a result there was a pretty significant northbound back-up today. I assume this is partially related to the lack of a northbound off ramp at Dearborn.
Title: Re: Seattle Tunnel entrance using ramp metering?
Post by: Amtrakprod on February 06, 2019, 09:37:45 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 06, 2019, 08:46:30 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on February 06, 2019, 06:59:54 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 05, 2019, 10:36:12 PM
Drove it today.

Can confirm that none of the ramps or mainline entrances have meters, except the northbound on-ramp from Colorado Ave S.

The 6th Ave N on-ramp is extremely short, plus it's near many streets with RIRO connections to 99; wouldn't have been worth it to design it for meters, I'm thinking.
How was the new tunnel?

I thought it was great. The concrete was slightly bumpier than I expected, but overall, I I think it's wonderful. Traffic levels today were more normal than Monday and Tuesday, due to snow. As a result there was a pretty significant northbound back-up today. I assume this is partially related to the lack of a northbound off ramp at Dearborn.

I'd love to see what message appears when the Ramp Metering is on
Title: Re: Seattle Tunnel entrance using ramp metering?
Post by: Bruce on February 06, 2019, 10:56:06 PM
Even with today's traffic jam, the message and meters weren't active.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXM4UzDOwfw
Title: Re: Seattle Tunnel entrance using ramp metering?
Post by: Amtrakprod on February 07, 2019, 06:50:49 AM
Quote from: Bruce on February 06, 2019, 10:56:06 PM
Even with today's traffic jam, the message and meters weren't active.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXM4UzDOwfw
The place you entered doesn't use Ramp Metering