Thought this would be a cool place to share many railroad crossings with traffic lights, here's one in St Marys WV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgQA_fySJ74
This one in Rochester, NY.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.139498,-77.7086922,3a,75y,175.26h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6MuFYLp3LuUdEoGhIMeHyQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en&authuser=0
Rogers/Lowell, AR
https://goo.gl/maps/HtsmHcJgHtR2
Right here in Auburn Hills, MI at Joslyn and Brown Roads just off I-75. The same tracks cross Joslyn two more times north of here.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7072075,-83.2851637,3a,75y,337.84h,94.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s21mF6eMet3CTmXXVssMZPQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Quote from: Flint1979 on February 09, 2019, 11:31:42 AM
Right here in Auburn Hills, MI at Joslyn and Brown Roads just off I-75. The same tracks cross Joslyn two more times north of here.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7072075,-83.2851637,3a,75y,337.84h,94.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s21mF6eMet3CTmXXVssMZPQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
That's an interesting set-up.
Madison WI: University Ave/Campus Dr/Babcock Dr (https://goo.gl/maps/s7gNkJ9YKuD2).
Since Babcock Dr is one way going away from the intersection (for motor vehicles), it's really a more complex signalized mid-block crossing/bike path intersection. Until the early 2000s, it was only controlled by traffic signals. The railroad signals were added ~15 years ago. It's been a while since I saw a train go through there, but the overhead traffic lights would wig-wag red (normal red ball on the far left, and there's another red ball on the far right side of the signal).
Quote from: US71 on February 09, 2019, 11:52:26 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on February 09, 2019, 11:31:42 AM
Right here in Auburn Hills, MI at Joslyn and Brown Roads just off I-75. The same tracks cross Joslyn two more times north of here.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7072075,-83.2851637,3a,75y,337.84h,94.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s21mF6eMet3CTmXXVssMZPQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
That's an interesting set-up.
I think I've had to stop for a train once there in all the time I've been driving and if I remember correctly the traffic lights flash red when the signals are activated.
Here's another intersection in Michigan. It's in Saginaw and isn't too complex. The train tracks cross Michigan, Fraser and Vermont on an angle and when there is a train present the traffic lights flash red in all directions.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4073187,-83.9768756,3a,75y,32.82h,89.71t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1s-qQZ9N8Ffwu5FvH1J9sSyQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D-qQZ9N8Ffwu5FvH1J9sSyQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D182.70222%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100
This one isn't at an intersection with a traffic light but I've had to wait for a train at this crossing before and the degree of the angle the tracks travel at compared to the street make the train pretty much right on top of you as you are waiting for the train to go through.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.408086,-83.9730268,3a,75y,26.88h,83.39t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1seujtynPm0Qp9Tqjcocto4w!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DeujtynPm0Qp9Tqjcocto4w%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D94.35492%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100
These two views are about two blocks apart.
This setup (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7669444,-84.3055156,3a,75y,107.75h,88.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s09E7v8TiGYvC4ffa8BC3MQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), part of what is effectively a 7-legged intersection with a set of railroad tracks and a pedestrian/bike path in the middle, has been known to be a local source of frustration and the city is currently looking at several alternatives to rework the whole thing.
Beaverton, Oregon (https://goo.gl/maps/sTiMq7mQbQF2) put a new rail line through town so commuter rail could serve a MAX station, and incorporates railroad signals into the normal traffic light mast. I thought I took a picture of this, but I can't find it.
There's a few of them along Gregg St. in Fayetteville, AR since the AR-MO RR runs right next to it. They use the same signals to prohibit turns (No Left/Right Turn) that the University of Arkansas uses at the main intersection on campus to prohibit right turns on red for certain crosswalk states. Too bad the very next crosswalk to the north of that intersection on campus claimed a life this past week because of a teen with a phone at the wheel.
https://goo.gl/maps/Gk5w4uhYREx (https://goo.gl/maps/Gk5w4uhYREx)
https://goo.gl/maps/mUSsFLYhqv62 (https://goo.gl/maps/mUSsFLYhqv62)
https://goo.gl/maps/HtaBmR82JV22 (https://goo.gl/maps/HtaBmR82JV22)
Quote from: steviep24 on February 09, 2019, 10:04:25 AM
This one in Rochester, NY.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.139498,-77.7086922,3a,75y,175.26h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6MuFYLp3LuUdEoGhIMeHyQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en&authuser=0
Interesting 3M tower signal
The signals in Renton, Washington also go into four way flashing mode when a train goes by, here right before it goes into street running. Several cars accelerated to run the yellow light, but other drivers didn't know what to do on a flashing yellow. The train is returning a frame that carried a 737 fuselage to a nearby Boeing factory. This is from 2007, before widespread LED installations.
https://youtu.be/pUyuZOIpMdM
A few more from Madison:
Along the John Nolen corridor
US 151 @ Williamson St (https://goo.gl/maps/nSdgCWTSdnu); very few railroad signals...mostly gates
US 151 @ Broom St (https://goo.gl/maps/T8PZ6kWb62x); a "Green-T" intersection layout
John Nolen at Olin Ave (https://goo.gl/maps/n5p2pdxYa3Q2); the shallow angle makes for some widely-spread signals
Along the Campus Dr/University Ave corridor
Highland Ave (https://goo.gl/maps/6PGdUpyhvYM2)
University Ave @ Ridge (https://goo.gl/maps/8XDTDYG88732); 3/4 access intersection
Whitney Way @ Old Middleton (https://goo.gl/maps/4aWgBjnS8TP2); the massive "stop gates" were replaced with conventional railroad signals in 2017
State St @ N 68th St, Wauwatosa (https://goo.gl/maps/CBixsbZogTL2); Amtrak line
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on February 09, 2019, 05:04:12 PM
The signals in Renton, Washington also go into four way flashing mode when a train goes by, here right before it goes into street running. Several cars accelerated to run the yellow light, but other drivers didn't know what to do on a flashing yellow. The train is returning a frame that carried a 737 fuselage to a nearby Boeing factory. This is from 2007, before widespread LED installations.
https://youtu.be/pUyuZOIpMdM
Yikes...that horn...sounds like a sick donkey :-o Hopefully it's just the microphone.
Quote from: DaBigE on February 09, 2019, 05:21:38 PM
US 151 @ Broom St (https://goo.gl/maps/T8PZ6kWb62x); a "Green-T" intersection layout
Oh, so we're counting Green-T's now (https://goo.gl/maps/PKCNb8XEwBD2)? :spin:
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on February 09, 2019, 05:04:12 PM
The signals in Renton, Washington also go into four way flashing mode when a train goes by, here right before it goes into street running. Several cars accelerated to run the yellow light, but other drivers didn't know what to do on a flashing yellow. The train is returning a frame that carried a 737 fuselage to a nearby Boeing factory. This is from 2007, before widespread LED installations.
https://youtu.be/pUyuZOIpMdM
Awesome clip Arthur. Thanks for sharing. Not sure I've seen a railroad signal operate like that in WA before. I can think of a ton of railroad-actuated signals all over Western Washington, but none that enter any sort of flash mode.
Two questions: Do trains still run down Houser? And if so, does that signal still enter flashing mode? Not sure where that rail line once went, or rather, if it changed following the construction of the Renton Landing development.
https://goo.gl/maps/SwgqH1GnLcp
Polk Street in Downtown Tampa has the CSX Line to Port Tampa running right down the center of the street. All signals regulate cross traffic when a train comes.
https://goo.gl/maps/1JrtFL7KZLM2
The second photo shows the RR signal on the side pole as even with the red signal, flashers still are present.
Here's a more unique one in Jackson, MO (https://goo.gl/maps/42P9o9qRBSy)
Sikeston, MO, used to have this one on US 61 with only traffic signals. (https://goo.gl/maps/yLdneZyju9F2)
Two in Janesville, WI to share:
US-14 (Humes Rd) @ Kennedy Rd:
https://goo.gl/maps/jBjkB5J2QN82 (https://goo.gl/maps/jBjkB5J2QN82)
The infamous Five Points intersection - US-51 (Center Ave, Centerway) @ W. Court St & W. Milwaukee St:
https://goo.gl/maps/f6HNDJuGzoP2 (https://goo.gl/maps/f6HNDJuGzoP2)
Britton Rd. & Western Ave. in Oklahoma City.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190210/018fef76a51ba160b2bf580f08e568d1.jpg)
SM-T580
https://goo.gl/maps/XzNPNnknSiL2
I have no idea how this crossing functions.
For some reason, the Arbutus Rail Line crossing (https://goo.gl/maps/1iHY92TkXdP2) at Broadway in Vancouver BC was controlled by traffic lights instead of railroad crossing lights. It's a trail now with a crosswalk signal.
Quote from: jakeroot on February 09, 2019, 09:43:55 PM
Awesome clip Arthur. Thanks for sharing. Not sure I've seen a railroad signal operate like that in WA before. I can think of a ton of railroad-actuated signals all over Western Washington, but none that enter any sort of flash mode.
Two questions: Do trains still run down Houser? And if so, does that signal still enter flashing mode? Not sure where that rail line once went, or rather, if it changed following the construction of the Renton Landing development.
Trains still run down Houser, now serving just the Boeing factory. It used to go to Woodinville, and Sumas, to interchange with Canadian railroads. (Actually, before the Burlington Northern merger, this line connected with the Milwaukee Road line to Snoqualmie pass, or just went to an interchange yard near the future Gene Coluon Park.) These lights still flash, although others have more logical modes. The light at North 3rd and Sunset Blvd N. used to go into red four way flash mode, leading to chaos, especially as traffic backed by the train. Now Sunset is green the whole time a train goes by, leaving me as a pedestrian stranded on the other side wanting to cross for a closer look.
Quote from: jakeroot on February 09, 2019, 09:43:55 PM
Awesome clip Arthur. Thanks for sharing. Not sure I've seen a railroad signal operate like that in WA before. I can think of a ton of railroad-actuated signals all over Western Washington, but none that enter any sort of flash mode.
Two questions: Do trains still run down Houser? And if so, does that signal still enter flashing mode? Not sure where that rail line once went, or rather, if it changed following the construction of the Renton Landing development.
You can get a glimpse at how the lights still operate on this newer video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8svKXQ2eaM
Quote from: US71 on February 10, 2019, 02:19:40 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/XzNPNnknSiL2
I have no idea how this crossing functions.
They should have aligned the intersection like this... Right now, everyone except right turns from Tyler is screwed.
(https://i.imgur.com/7PbwQoR.png)
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on February 10, 2019, 02:28:44 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 09, 2019, 09:43:55 PM
Awesome clip Arthur. Thanks for sharing. Not sure I've seen a railroad signal operate like that in WA before. I can think of a ton of railroad-actuated signals all over Western Washington, but none that enter any sort of flash mode.
Two questions: Do trains still run down Houser? And if so, does that signal still enter flashing mode? Not sure where that rail line once went, or rather, if it changed following the construction of the Renton Landing development.
Trains still run down Houser, now serving just the Boeing factory. It used to go to Woodinville, and Sumas, to interchange with Canadian railroads. (Actually, before the Burlington Northern merger, this line connected with the Milwaukee Road line to Snoqualmie pass, or just went to an interchange yard near the future Gene Coluon Park.) These lights still flash, although others have more logical modes. The light at North 3rd and Sunset Blvd N. used to go into red four way flash mode, leading to chaos, especially as traffic backed by the train. Now Sunset is green the whole time a train goes by, leaving me as a pedestrian stranded on the other side wanting to cross for a closer look.
I would love to have seen that 3rd/Sunset intersection in flash mode, especially with that triple left turn. I'm laughing just thinking about it. Too bad the signal logic doesn't allow a pedestrian-exclusive phase during rail crossings. This signal in Puyallup (http://bit.ly/2thesJ4) is pretty smart. When the train approaches, the northern approach (from 5th) gets an exclusive green mode for about 10 seconds. After that, Stewart Ave stays green
except when someone approaches the left turn lane from the southern approach (from 4th), or when a pedestrian activates the walk signal for any direction. It does this with regular doghouse signals, which unfortunately results in some yellow traps on occasion.
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on February 10, 2019, 04:40:23 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 09, 2019, 09:43:55 PM
Awesome clip Arthur. Thanks for sharing. Not sure I've seen a railroad signal operate like that in WA before. I can think of a ton of railroad-actuated signals all over Western Washington, but none that enter any sort of flash mode.
Two questions: Do trains still run down Houser? And if so, does that signal still enter flashing mode? Not sure where that rail line once went, or rather, if it changed following the construction of the Renton Landing development.
You can get a glimpse at how the lights still operate on this newer video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8svKXQ2eaM
I would take a day off work to see that.
What confuses me about the Houser Way tracks is where they connect to the Boeing facility. Looks to me like it has to go towards Gene Coulon Park before reversing.
Quote from: jakeroot on February 10, 2019, 04:41:31 PM
Quote from: US71 on February 10, 2019, 02:19:40 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/XzNPNnknSiL2
I have no idea how this crossing functions.
They should have aligned the intersection like this... Right now, everyone except right turns from Tyler is screwed.
(https://i.imgur.com/7PbwQoR.png)
Honestly, I think how it is now is fine, I would add some quad arms so left turns and right turns on Tyler can occur while the train is coming
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on February 10, 2019, 02:28:44 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 09, 2019, 09:43:55 PM
Awesome clip Arthur. Thanks for sharing. Not sure I've seen a railroad signal operate like that in WA before. I can think of a ton of railroad-actuated signals all over Western Washington, but none that enter any sort of flash mode.
Two questions: Do trains still run down Houser? And if so, does that signal still enter flashing mode? Not sure where that rail line once went, or rather, if it changed following the construction of the Renton Landing development.
Trains still run down Houser, now serving just the Boeing factory. It used to go to Woodinville, and Sumas, to interchange with Canadian railroads. (Actually, before the Burlington Northern merger, this line connected with the Milwaukee Road line to Snoqualmie pass, or just went to an interchange yard near the future Gene Coluon Park.) These lights still flash, although others have more logical modes. The light at North 3rd and Sunset Blvd N. used to go into red four way flash mode, leading to chaos, especially as traffic backed by the train. Now Sunset is green the whole time a train goes by, leaving me as a pedestrian stranded on the other side wanting to cross for a closer look.
I would love to have seen that 3rd/Sunset intersection in flash mode, especially with that triple left turn. I'm laughing just thinking about it. Too bad the signal logic doesn't allow a pedestrian-exclusive phase during rail crossings. This signal in Puyallup (http://bit.ly/2thesJ4) is pretty smart. When the train approaches, the northern approach (from 5th) gets an exclusive green mode for about 10 seconds. After that, Stewart Ave stays green except when someone approaches the left turn lane from the southern approach (from 4th), or when a pedestrian activates the walk signal for any direction. It does this with regular doghouse signals, which unfortunately results in some yellow traps on occasion.
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on February 10, 2019, 04:40:23 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 09, 2019, 09:43:55 PM
Awesome clip Arthur. Thanks for sharing. Not sure I've seen a railroad signal operate like that in WA before. I can think of a ton of railroad-actuated signals all over Western Washington, but none that enter any sort of flash mode.
Two questions: Do trains still run down Houser? And if so, does that signal still enter flashing mode? Not sure where that rail line once went, or rather, if it changed following the construction of the Renton Landing development.
You can get a glimpse at how the lights still operate on this newer video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8svKXQ2eaM
I would take a day off work to see that.
What confuses me about the Houser Way tracks is where they connect to the Boeing facility. Looks to me like it has to go towards Gene Coulon Park before reversing.
Very common to tie the signals to the rail crossing signals in Illinois, whether the rails go through the intersection or next to it.
Just a few examples:
LaGrange Road (https://goo.gl/maps/uePYsR5bgFz), Downtown LaGrange.
Irving Park Road & Wood Dale Road (https://goo.gl/maps/wjtMwMfQRp52), Wood Dale.
Ashland Avenue, Blue Island Avenue, & Cermak Road (https://goo.gl/maps/BSYUaATxX2m), Chicago.
Pulaski Road & 87th Street (https://goo.gl/maps/2RWMMtxnTkz), Evergreen Park, next to Southwest Highway.
Of course, tying the signals to the tracks is no guarantee that you'll avoid grade crossing collisions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Fox_River_Grove_bus%E2%80%93train_collision).
Quote from: jakeroot on February 10, 2019, 04:41:31 PM
I would love to have seen that 3rd/Sunset intersection in flash mode, especially with that triple left turn. I'm laughing just thinking about it. Too bad the signal logic doesn't allow a pedestrian-exclusive phase during rail crossings. This signal in Puyallup (http://bit.ly/2thesJ4) is pretty smart. When the train approaches, the northern approach (from 5th) gets an exclusive green mode for about 10 seconds. After that, Stewart Ave stays green except when someone approaches the left turn lane from the southern approach (from 4th), or when a pedestrian activates the walk signal for any direction. It does this with regular doghouse signals, which unfortunately results in some yellow traps on occasion.
The flashing mode was when it was a two lane turn. Now that it's a three lane turn (two plus a split) it would be even more useful for that direction to have a green light on long trains. But it's those pesky few cars that want to go forward towards the train that's the problem.
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I would take a day off work to see that.
What confuses me about the Houser Way tracks is where they connect to the Boeing facility. Looks to me like it has to go towards Gene Coulon Park before reversing.
It has to switch in, which is awkward for it being the only train movement there, but it's cheaper than constructing a direct connection.
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on February 10, 2019, 05:54:41 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 10, 2019, 04:41:31 PM
I would love to have seen that 3rd/Sunset intersection in flash mode, especially with that triple left turn. I'm laughing just thinking about it. Too bad the signal logic doesn't allow a pedestrian-exclusive phase during rail crossings. This signal in Puyallup (http://bit.ly/2thesJ4) is pretty smart. When the train approaches, the northern approach (from 5th) gets an exclusive green mode for about 10 seconds. After that, Stewart Ave stays green except when someone approaches the left turn lane from the southern approach (from 4th), or when a pedestrian activates the walk signal for any direction. It does this with regular doghouse signals, which unfortunately results in some yellow traps on occasion.
The flashing mode was when it was a two lane turn. Now that it's a three lane turn (two plus a split) it would be even more useful for that direction to have a green light on long trains. But it's those pesky few cars that want to go forward towards the train that's the problem.
I had no idea how new that triple-left turn was. As usual, Renton forgot to install an extra through head when the second one was removed from the central signal.
Seems to me that they could still allow that triple left to operate, with the understanding that through traffic would quickly run out of room and would be required to wait. The installation of a "don't block the box" sign could help if they went that route.
Quote from: US71 on February 09, 2019, 11:52:26 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on February 09, 2019, 11:31:42 AM
Right here in Auburn Hills, MI at Joslyn and Brown Roads just off I-75. The same tracks cross Joslyn two more times north of here.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7072075,-83.2851637,3a,75y,337.84h,94.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s21mF6eMet3CTmXXVssMZPQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
That's an interesting set-up.
A similar setup at the Wixom Road/Pontiac Trail intersection in Wixom, MI. As in the Auburn Hills example, the mast arms are all on the near side entering the intersection.
https://goo.gl/maps/EFF9Dk5aZpx
Here's one on US-65 in Albert Lea, MN (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.6438388,-93.3687714,3a,73.3y,1.27h,92.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sD79CVv9j0ogVZffBq0m6YQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). I don't know how it works, exactly, since the few times I've been through there hasn't been a train.
Delaware County, PA has a few:
Intersection of Providence Rd/North Ave./South Ave. and SEPTA's Media-Elwyn Regional Rail Line at the Secane Station in Secane (Upper Darby Twp.) (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9155013,-75.3099631,3a,75y,257.01h,79.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2FXqAgzXdDU4LbREcLk82Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
PA 420 (Kedron Ave.)/Morton Ave./Yale Ave. and SEPTA's Media-Elwyn Regional Rail Line at the Morton Station in Morton (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9080444,-75.327228,3a,75y,299.66h,80.63t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sRweZBOKfSGWVUbqyG5d0Vg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DRweZBOKfSGWVUbqyG5d0Vg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D0.47636968%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656)
Springfield Rd./Brookside Rd. and SEPTA' s Route 101 (Media) trolley in Springfield (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9341633,-75.3295124,3a,75y,319.33h,75.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqEZ9HjwaIXaX7C1b4AvDXw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Baltimore Ave. and SEPTA's Route 102 (Sharon Hill) trolley crossing in Clifton Heights - Baltimore Pike Station (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9312086,-75.292583,3a,75y,239.58h,82.57t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1snfpqjAZdqb6zIm6CqBzKAQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DnfpqjAZdqb6zIm6CqBzKAQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D61.160557%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656)
PA 3 (West Chester Pike)/Garrett Rd./Bywood Ave./Terminal Sq. and SEPTA's Route 101 (Media) & 102 (Sharon Hill) trolleys in Upper Darby Twp. near the 69th St. Transportation Center (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.961979,-75.2608919,3a,75y,300.6h,76.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sxvFqn8d1sDzWNyksT1dl-w!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DxvFqn8d1sDzWNyksT1dl-w%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D245.81036%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656)
Quote from: Flint1979 on February 09, 2019, 12:19:26 PM
Here's another intersection in Michigan. It's in Saginaw and isn't too complex. The train tracks cross Michigan, Fraser and Vermont on an angle and when there is a train present the traffic lights flash red in all directions.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4073187,-83.9768756,3a,75y,32.82h,89.71t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1s-qQZ9N8Ffwu5FvH1J9sSyQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D-qQZ9N8Ffwu5FvH1J9sSyQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D182.70222%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100
This one isn't at an intersection with a traffic light but I've had to wait for a train at this crossing before and the degree of the angle the tracks travel at compared to the street make the train pretty much right on top of you as you are waiting for the train to go through.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.408086,-83.9730268,3a,75y,26.88h,83.39t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1seujtynPm0Qp9Tqjcocto4w!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DeujtynPm0Qp9Tqjcocto4w%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D94.35492%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100
These two views are about two blocks apart.
I grew up in Saginaw and I don't recall them always doing that. I wonder how recently the change was made.
Here's one I pass regularly on my way to work near Fort Worth/Hurst, Texas: https://goo.gl/maps/QXSpgPBayUG2
The lights flash red when the train is coming through. I'm interested to see if/how the configuration changes as the intersection and connection of Texas 121 with I-820 just east of it are under construction. I believe they're redoing the entire contraption adding express lanes on 820 and fixing the odd ramp to 820 South.
Some Maine examples...
- Commercial and Washington Streets in Bath. (https://goo.gl/maps/mvBtP54wuxF2)
- State Street (Business ME 15) at Penobscot Street in Brewer. (https://goo.gl/maps/xtsGJLyu5662)
- US 2 at the Bangor Water Works in Bangor. (https://goo.gl/maps/MqLKH767GPB2)
- US 2 at ME 178 in Milford. (https://goo.gl/maps/fqux75vMqzp)
Here's one at VA 147 & SR 675/711 in Chesterfield County, VA
https://goo.gl/maps/mm42dhUzHhy
Now that we're posting trolley signal pictures: at the south end of the South Lake Union Trolley in Seattle, they recently (a few years ago?) filled in a street to enlarge McGraw Square and make the area more pedestrian-friendly. However, on one side of the closure, they left the pedestrian signal where it was, WAY past the other side of the new narrow cross walk, which now only crosses the trolley line. Always obey the walk sign!
Street View (https://goo.gl/maps/nQUF3ofXzeT2)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7822/46355302924_dd9c6d27a7_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dCg3yL)Distant ped signal on recently narrowed crossing (https://flic.kr/p/2dCg3yL) by Arthur Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116988743@N07/), on Flickr
A couple in my area:
67th St. and Carter (https://goo.gl/maps/Ms7qmNAb7mx) in Merriam, KS.
Pflumm Rd. and Santa Fe Trail Dr. (https://goo.gl/maps/AoQtwc76Z8J2) in Lenexa, KS. It's the only one I've seen of this type (tracks only cross one leg) where the traffic signal is beyond the tracks instead of before.
Does this fit the spirit of the thread?
https://goo.gl/maps/GRuMweimRR52 (https://goo.gl/maps/GRuMweimRR52)
29th Street North @ Broadway in Wichita, KS
29th crosses a 14-track freight yard that parallels Broadway, so a stoplight and signs instruct drivers to stop before the tracks when Broadway turns red.
Here (https://goo.gl/maps/kC9MwjqLU732) is a view looking the other way, so you can see how little space there is between the railroad r/o/w and Broadway.
There is this crossing in Alexander City, AL. Two parallel roads with a railroad track running down the middle. this intersection comes with right turn protected turns.
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.9428364,-85.9571351,3a,37.5y,79.72h,87.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shS-DcQyYbCmbSn7j_bPJXg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
I forgot I had a video of one in Columbus. Lockbourne and Refugee Roads. Apologies for the shaky shot; I was in a rough running diesel that day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n23h8Qmq2LM
On a semi-relevant note, this crossing appears to be controlled by signals. I suppose you could say it's tied in.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.0398955,-85.2824015,3a,49.6y,44.99h,91.14t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sfExTOqX3kab_sAYzFUA0fg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DfExTOqX3kab_sAYzFUA0fg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D330.4194%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656
Quote from: index on February 21, 2019, 04:26:42 PM
On a semi-relevant note, this crossing appears to be controlled by signals. I suppose you could say it's tied in.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.0398955,-85.2824015,3a,49.6y,44.99h,91.14t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sfExTOqX3kab_sAYzFUA0fg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DfExTOqX3kab_sAYzFUA0fg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D330.4194%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656
Very interesting! I wonder why they don't just install a crossing system, it seems it would be cheaper
NJ 129 in Trenton has a parallel line that is mostly used by NJ Transit's Riverline light rail line. The 3 intersections on 129 all have tie-ins with the railroad, so that 129 traffic can go straight while the train comes by.
As Cass Street, the northbound train activates the crossing prior to getting to the train station, so traffic on Cass St. is stopped while the train is still in the station.
An oddity at these 3 crossings: After the train clears the crossing, the gates start going up, and the light starts to cycle. By the time the cross street gets the green light, the gates are about 2 seconds from being fully up, and the railroad signals are still flashing red. Technically, a confliction of signals!
Here's the 3 intersections:
Lalor St: https://goo.gl/maps/Zo54PUJQ9uy
Cass St: https://goo.gl/maps/VLeLTCX1nLF2
Hamilton Ave: https://goo.gl/maps/1tyS5tYMNBA2
This intersection in Saginaw, MI (corner of W. Genesee and N. Michigan) has the train crossing just east of the intersection not really tied into the intersection but whenever there is a train going through there the traffic gets backed up beyond the intersection. Trains go through this crossing pretty often too. It got so bad that Saginaw's bus system (STARS) had to redesign their bus routes to avoid this train crossing. Instead of using W. Genesee or Johnson like they use to the west side bus routes now use the I-675 overpass in both directions to get between downtown and the west side of the city.
Here's a Google view of it.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4349712,-83.9484852,111m/data=!3m1!1e3
Quote from: Flint1979 on February 22, 2019, 05:19:21 PM
This intersection in Saginaw, MI (corner of W. Genesee and N. Michigan) has the train crossing just east of the intersection not really tied into the intersection but whenever there is a train going through there the traffic gets backed up beyond the intersection. Trains go through this crossing pretty often too. It got so bad that Saginaw's bus system (STARS) had to redesign their bus routes to avoid this train crossing. Instead of using W. Genesee or Johnson like they use to the west side bus routes now use the I-675 overpass in both directions to get between downtown and the west side of the city.
Here's a Google view of it.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4349712,-83.9484852,111m/data=!3m1!1e3
Honestly, try to bring it up at some point because that's awful because they are very close and they should be synced.
Quote from: Amtrakprod on February 22, 2019, 09:13:43 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on February 22, 2019, 05:19:21 PM
This intersection in Saginaw, MI (corner of W. Genesee and N. Michigan) has the train crossing just east of the intersection not really tied into the intersection but whenever there is a train going through there the traffic gets backed up beyond the intersection. Trains go through this crossing pretty often too. It got so bad that Saginaw's bus system (STARS) had to redesign their bus routes to avoid this train crossing. Instead of using W. Genesee or Johnson like they use to the west side bus routes now use the I-675 overpass in both directions to get between downtown and the west side of the city.
Here's a Google view of it.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4349712,-83.9484852,111m/data=!3m1!1e3
Honestly, try to bring it up at some point because that's awful because they are very close and they should be synced.
That intersection was reconstructed a few years ago. The tracks should go through an underpass at both W. Genesee and Johnson. Actually what I'm calling Johnson is really Davenport but it gets called Johnson instead because the bridge is the Johnson Street bridge. It's actually signed as Davenport and everything too but what people around here know as Davenport is the westbound one way of M-58.
Another interesting setup:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1588828,-77.0919209,3a,40.8y,226.09h,94.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFAslP-rV0074wyWVb-xB2w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1588828,-77.0919209,3a,40.8y,226.09h,94.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFAslP-rV0074wyWVb-xB2w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
This intersection is signalized, but not for the intersection, it's for the crossing only. Traffic from the opposing road is controlled with beacons, while the main road is controlled by the signals in a flasher mode. I would assume they go red when a train comes through. By the looks of this, this would make the green phase at this setup unused. Crossbuck is also mounted on a mast arm which is kind of uncommon.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5339401,-78.4241482,3a,60y,82.28h,88.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swwddpDELuiKlJ18fwQyDbQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
And another signal-controlled railroad crossing, in NYS as well. I've found a few of them in this state before.
Quote from: index on February 23, 2019, 05:32:06 AM
Another interesting setup:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1588828,-77.0919209,3a,40.8y,226.09h,94.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFAslP-rV0074wyWVb-xB2w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1588828,-77.0919209,3a,40.8y,226.09h,94.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFAslP-rV0074wyWVb-xB2w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
This intersection is signalized, but not for the intersection, it's for the crossing only. Traffic from the opposing road is controlled with beacons, while the main road is controlled by the signals in a flasher mode. I would assume they go red when a train comes through. By the looks of this, this would make the green phase at this setup unused. Crossbuck is also mounted on a mast arm which is kind of uncommon.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5339401,-78.4241482,3a,60y,82.28h,88.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swwddpDELuiKlJ18fwQyDbQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
And another signal-controlled railroad crossing, in NYS as well. I've found a few of them in this state before.
A while ago I visited a crossing like that but it also had gates, here is the video, and here is google maps link:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9478071,-74.209307,3a,75y,247.79h,84.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQnPCAIo4U1pBFpJO29k1BQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Video: https://youtu.be/8jeJB7tpt7A?t=120
skip to 2:00 in the video for the crossing view
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2929548,-83.1121253,3a,75y,81.68h,97.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sM-eX0JupVhP8YQ3_1u8XUw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
This crossing in Detroit, near Zug Island, appears to be controlled with HAWK signals. Interesting.
Quote from: index on March 01, 2019, 11:14:12 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2929548,-83.1121253,3a,75y,81.68h,97.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sM-eX0JupVhP8YQ3_1u8XUw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
This crossing in Detroit, near Zug Island, appears to be controlled with HAWK signals. Interesting.
Very strange, I saw another one like that but with Signals too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8vagx2yLJA
If you skip to 1:29 you can see what occurs.
Here's the old street view: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.2971376,-122.6664116,3a,75y,331.06h,87.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sH7pjrfCMmUWQwJkFdcx6Lw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Quote from: Amtrakprod on March 01, 2019, 11:26:17 PM
Very strange, I saw another one like that but with Signals too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8vagx2yLJA
If you skip to 1:29 you can see what occurs.
These HAWK/emergency beacons seem completely unnecessary. They only seem to operate up until right after the gate arms come down, and the phasing does not seem to align with what is typical of these types of signal beacons (HAWK-style red flash means each car must stop and can proceed when clear, but this was displayed briefly with the crossing gates down).