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Title: Highways in Chile
Post by: Chris on February 23, 2010, 01:06:07 PM
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Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: Bickendan on February 23, 2010, 01:59:38 PM
Is there a map of the network handy?
Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: Chris on February 23, 2010, 04:56:35 PM
This is the network in Santiago de Chile:
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There are some long-distance Autopistas, mostly the Ruta 5 which runs north-south through the country, but it not a freeway throughout all of the country. As you know Chile is a country that spans over 2,500 miles north-south.
Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: realjd on February 24, 2010, 09:00:12 AM
Much of that terrain looks astonishingly similar to Southern California.
Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: agentsteel53 on February 24, 2010, 12:47:14 PM
what does "solo televia o sistema complementario" mean?
Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: Chris on February 24, 2010, 01:01:55 PM
"only Televía or compatible systems"? Televía is an electronic toll collection.
Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: agentsteel53 on February 24, 2010, 01:38:24 PM
Quote from: Chris on February 24, 2010, 01:01:55 PM
"only Televía or compatible systems"? Televía is an electronic toll collection.

gotcha.  I figured the literal translation but the key bit of information I was missing was that Televia is the electronic toll transponder.
Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: yacoded on February 24, 2010, 07:35:12 PM
On a somewhat random note, they have some really great traffic lights, it reminds me of New South Wales, Australia for some reason. 
Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: mapman on February 25, 2010, 02:48:02 AM
Australia also has roundabout interchanges like the one mid-way through the pictures (although, obviously, the Australian roundabouts would circulate in the opposite direction). 
Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: Stephane Dumas on February 25, 2010, 07:39:27 AM
thanks for posting these pictures Chris :)
Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: xcellntbuy on February 25, 2010, 05:07:44 PM
Excellent photos! :clap:
Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: FLRoads on February 27, 2010, 09:15:14 AM
I am wondering how the highways fared after the 8.8 earthquake. I just heard from CNN that one of the main highways into Santiago (Highway 5) is closed (assuming do to damage).

Plus, an image from the Associated Press shows the collapse of a portion of one of their freeways (looks like an overpass):

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Vehicles-that-were-driving-along-highway-that-collapsed-during-earthquake/photo//100227/481/9d09b8c21fc14b79b96840446f5faef0//s:/ap/lt_chile_earthquake (http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Vehicles-that-were-driving-along-highway-that-collapsed-during-earthquake/photo//100227/481/9d09b8c21fc14b79b96840446f5faef0//s:/ap/lt_chile_earthquake)

Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: Bickendan on February 27, 2010, 12:00:30 PM
From my understanding, the freeway outright collapsed.
Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: Chris on February 27, 2010, 12:23:08 PM
I saw a freeway in Santiago collapsed with several cars on their roofs. That is over 300 kilometers away from the hardest-hit area, so we may see some more widespread destruction if more becomes available.

Keep in mind Chile has a lot of experience with megathrust earthquakes and has adequate building codes just like other developed earthquake-prone areas. Damage doesn't seem to be so widespread like we saw in Haiti last month, but is still significant.
Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: agentsteel53 on February 27, 2010, 12:27:37 PM
the Hell's up with all the earthquakes recently?

at least Chile is a modern country and will get back on its feet quickly and efficiently.  Maybe fly down a few engineers from Los Angeles or Oakland with collapsed-freeway expertise?
Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: Stephane Dumas on February 27, 2010, 01:46:12 PM
Quote from: Chris on February 27, 2010, 12:23:08 PM
I saw a freeway in Santiago collapsed with several cars on their roofs. That is over 300 kilometers away from the hardest-hit area, so we may see some more widespread destruction if more becomes available.

Keep in mind Chile has a lot of experience with megathrust earthquakes and has adequate building codes just like other developed earthquake-prone areas. Damage doesn't seem to be so widespread like we saw in Haiti last month, but is still significant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Chile_earthquake
the city of Concepciòn, the 2nd largest city in Chile, got most of the damage, it seems to have a freeway or expressway at the west http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&q=-36.833333,-73.05&ie=UTF8&ll=-36.822168,-73.070669&spn=0.023086,0.038409&z=15
Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: froggie on February 27, 2010, 03:39:04 PM
Catching this thread late (and after the overnight earthquake), but I have a few photos of my own (http://www.ajfroggie.com/roadpics/chile/index.html) from near and southeast of Valparaiso.

The tunneled freeway in Santiago that appeared in some of the photos Chris showed was under construction in 2003 when I was there.
Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: agentsteel53 on February 27, 2010, 03:49:05 PM
in picture 5 (http://www.ajfroggie.com/roadpics/chile/chile05.jpg) - is that an outline shield on the blue background, or a green shield?  I cannot tell.

I definitely need to go to Chile sometime!
Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: Bickendan on February 27, 2010, 06:24:56 PM
Looks like an outline shield. Chile looks like a very interesting country; my sister speaks highly of it from her brief stay (though I think she liked Nicaragua better).
Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: agentsteel53 on February 27, 2010, 06:36:22 PM
Quote from: Bickendan on February 27, 2010, 06:24:56 PM
Looks like an outline shield. Chile looks like a very interesting country; my sister speaks highly of it from her brief stay (though I think she liked Nicaragua better).

Chile is one of the countries I've been fascinated with since forever, and therefore a place I intend to visit.  Having been fascinated with Norway, I got my Norway visit done in March of 2008.  For an out-of-North-America experience, I do believe Chile might be next!
Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: froggie on February 27, 2010, 08:34:34 PM
It's an outline shield.  All of the guide signage shields I noticed were outlines.
Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: D-Dey65 on February 27, 2010, 10:26:45 PM
This one gives me a really bad feeling.
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I just hope nobody was driving on this during the quake.

:wow:  :-o

Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: shoptb1 on February 28, 2010, 04:11:46 AM
Fantastic pictures!  What an amazing road system.  I know there's a large German population in Chile....I wonder if that has affected the development of their freeway system.  For example, this picture shows the wonderful 'Autobahn-style' exit countdown markers.

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Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: Chris on February 28, 2010, 04:56:27 AM
There is a lot of German heritage in the Americas, not only the United States (largest descendant group), but also in countries like Brazil, Paraguay or Chile. In Brazil they have city names like Blumenau or Novo Hamburgo.

I've read Ruta 5 is impassable on several locations. It's the main artery of Chile.
Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: J N Winkler on February 28, 2010, 06:13:40 AM
Quote from: shoptb1 on February 28, 2010, 04:11:46 AMFantastic pictures!  What an amazing road system.  I know there's a large German population in Chile....I wonder if that has affected the development of their freeway system.  For example, this picture shows the wonderful 'Autobahn-style' exit countdown markers.

Those countdown markers are used all over Europe and are not uniquely German, though I think they were first developed in Germany in the 1930's.  (The original versions quoted the distance in 200 m increments rather than 100 m increments as now.)

Chilean direction signing looks to me more influenced by Spain and Brazil.  It uses the Spanish exit symbol, for one thing.  Legend blocks are horizontally centered and there is minimum use of diagrammatics on overhead signs, as in Spain.  Ground-mounted signs use the fork diagrammatic but this is very common in Europe (except in Switzerland and, oddly enough, Spain) and also in other South American countries like Brazil and, I think, Peru.  The retorno symbol is a very Latin American thing.  Since the fork sign is used for all ground-mounted advance signing, not just the signs after the first, the basic approach seems to have more in common with France and Britain than Germany, although I suspect the real model was Brazil.

Chile has had a quite good and pattern-accurate signing manual online for a long time--well before we had one of our own with the 2003 MUTCD, in fact:

http://www.subtrans.cl/subtrans/documentos/senalizacion.html

The second chapter contains the bulk of the signing advice dealing with upright signs, including dimensioned drawings for each standard sign.

I am going to have a look to see if Chile places construction documentation online, as is done in most US states, some Canadian provinces, and some European countries like France, Spain, Denmark, Sweden, and Italy.  The advertisements are online but the documentation is often a different matter because of bulk.
Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: Stephane Dumas on February 28, 2010, 04:57:01 PM
Quote from: Chris on February 28, 2010, 04:56:27 AM
There is a lot of German heritage in the Americas, not only the United States (largest descendant group), but also in countries like Brazil, Paraguay or Chile. In Brazil they have city names like Blumenau or Novo Hamburgo.

I've read Ruta 5 is impassable on several locations. It's the main artery of Chile.

there also a lots of German immigrants who come to Argentina http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Argentine
Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: Chris on March 01, 2010, 03:52:31 PM
Damaged freeways in Chile due to the 8.8 earthquake.

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Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: Truvelo on March 01, 2010, 03:56:12 PM
They have Renault Clio's in Chile. I've never seen Renault's in North America.
Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: Brandon on March 01, 2010, 04:31:58 PM
Quote from: Truvelo on March 01, 2010, 03:56:12 PM
They have Renault Clio's in Chile. I've never seen Renault's in North America.

AMC used to market some part-Renault/part-AMC models in the US during the 1980s.  That was the last known appearance of Renault vehicles in the US or Canada I know of.

Those pictures remind me of the Cypress Viaduct ones from the Bay Area in 1989.
Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: mhallack on May 08, 2010, 05:59:50 PM
Was this in Santiago or Concepcion? The damage photos?
Title: Re: Highways in Chile
Post by: agentsteel53 on May 08, 2010, 06:04:12 PM
anyone know how the rebuilding of the collapsed freeways is coming along?  I may visit Chile sometime in the next several months if I can swing it financially.