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Title: Chicago: Lake Shore Drive (U.S. 41) Closure
Post by: Ryctor2018 on February 11, 2019, 11:20:33 PM
I decided to spin this off in this own thread since the repercussions of this problem could be long term: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-lake-shore-drive-river-bridge-closure-20190211-story.html

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/northbound-lake-shore-drive-closed-at-randolph-over-structural-bridge-problem/

https://wgntv.com/2019/02/11/portion-of-nb-lake-shore-drive-closed-over-structural-emergency-on-bridge/
Title: Re: Chicago: Lake Shore Drive (U.S. 41) Closure
Post by: ET21 on February 12, 2019, 09:01:41 AM
Steel rebar is poking out of the piers... Anyone saying they didn't see this coming should be examined  :meh:
Title: Re: Chicago: Lake Shore Drive (U.S. 41) Closure
Post by: seicer on February 12, 2019, 09:13:31 AM
That's more than likely IDOT or CDOT chipping away loose concrete, which exposed the rebar. It's pretty common and gets patched when the temperatures are warmer. Just because rebar is showing doesn't mean the bridge is structurally deficient.
Title: Re: Chicago: Lake Shore Drive (U.S. 41) Closure
Post by: abefroman329 on February 12, 2019, 09:25:10 AM
Quote from: Ryctor2018 on February 11, 2019, 11:20:33 PM
I decided to spin this off in this own thread since the repercussions of this problem could be long term: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-lake-shore-drive-river-bridge-closure-20190211-story.html

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/northbound-lake-shore-drive-closed-at-randolph-over-structural-bridge-problem/

https://wgntv.com/2019/02/11/portion-of-nb-lake-shore-drive-closed-over-structural-emergency-on-bridge/
Latest I've heard is that there's a temporary reinforcement structure in place and that it will reopen tonight. 
Title: Re: Chicago: Lake Shore Drive (U.S. 41) Closure
Post by: Henry on February 12, 2019, 10:20:46 AM
Another example of crappy roadwork in Chicago...
Title: Re: Chicago: Lake Shore Drive (U.S. 41) Closure
Post by: Brandon on February 12, 2019, 07:03:18 PM
Quote from: seicer on February 12, 2019, 09:13:31 AM
That's more than likely IDOT or CDOT chipping away loose concrete, which exposed the rebar. It's pretty common and gets patched when the temperatures are warmer. Just because rebar is showing doesn't mean the bridge is structurally deficient.

It looks more like CDOT's lack of maintenance.  Concrete can also fall off, exposing rebar, rather than being chipped off.
Title: Re: Chicago: Lake Shore Drive (U.S. 41) Closure
Post by: quickshade on February 12, 2019, 09:24:30 PM
The whole thing is a joke. It's going to take a bridge collapse and people ending up dead for this state to take the roads seriously. Even if that happens it'll likely end up as a band aid approach. Idiots downstate are more concerned about legal pot and being 21 to purchase tobacco rather than the pension system or broken roadways.

PS: All for the legal pot, but take all the tax revenue and put it towards roads.
Title: Re: Chicago: Lake Shore Drive (U.S. 41) Closure
Post by: Big John on February 12, 2019, 09:43:13 PM
Quote from: seicer on February 12, 2019, 09:13:31 AM
That's more than likely IDOT or CDOT chipping away loose concrete, which exposed the rebar. It's pretty common and gets patched when the temperatures are warmer. Just because rebar is showing doesn't mean the bridge is structurally deficient.
Time to worry is when the spalled concrete extends beyond the rebar.
Title: Re: Chicago: Lake Shore Drive (U.S. 41) Closure
Post by: kphoger on February 13, 2019, 12:22:00 PM
Quote from: quickshade on February 12, 2019, 09:24:30 PM
PS: All for the legal pot, but take all the tax revenue and put it towards roads.

When pigs fly.  Anything controversial always gets pitched as having the proceeds go towards "the kids".
Title: Re: Chicago: Lake Shore Drive (U.S. 41) Closure
Post by: rte66man on February 13, 2019, 06:59:36 PM
Quote from: Big John on February 12, 2019, 09:43:13 PM
Quote from: seicer on February 12, 2019, 09:13:31 AM
That's more than likely IDOT or CDOT chipping away loose concrete, which exposed the rebar. It's pretty common and gets patched when the temperatures are warmer. Just because rebar is showing doesn't mean the bridge is structurally deficient.
Time to worry is when the spalled concrete extends beyond the rebar.
I dooubt it's spalling as the missing parts are very linear.  Spalling usually shows in a more random pattern.  Looks like they were prepping it for patches. And no, the pier integrity is not necessarily compromised by what is shown.
Title: Re: Chicago: Lake Shore Drive (U.S. 41) Closure
Post by: inkyatari on February 14, 2019, 11:31:14 AM
Quote from: kphoger on February 13, 2019, 12:22:00 PM
Quote from: quickshade on February 12, 2019, 09:24:30 PM
PS: All for the legal pot, but take all the tax revenue and put it towards roads.

When pigs fly.  Anything controversial always gets pitched as having the proceeds go towards "the kids".

Never trust a politician that uses the phrase "national security," or "we must do it for the kids!"
Title: Re: Chicago: Lake Shore Drive (U.S. 41) Closure
Post by: Super Mateo on February 16, 2019, 05:59:52 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on February 14, 2019, 11:31:14 AM
Quote from: kphoger on February 13, 2019, 12:22:00 PM
Quote from: quickshade on February 12, 2019, 09:24:30 PM
PS: All for the legal pot, but take all the tax revenue and put it towards roads.

When pigs fly.  Anything controversial always gets pitched as having the proceeds go towards "the kids".

Never trust a politician that uses the phrase "national security," or "we must do it for the kids!"

Never trust a politician.  At all.  Especially those in Illinois.
Title: Re: Chicago: Lake Shore Drive (U.S. 41) Closure
Post by: hotdogPi on February 16, 2019, 08:13:59 AM
Quote from: Super Mateo on February 16, 2019, 05:59:52 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on February 14, 2019, 11:31:14 AM
Quote from: kphoger on February 13, 2019, 12:22:00 PM
Quote from: quickshade on February 12, 2019, 09:24:30 PM
PS: All for the legal pot, but take all the tax revenue and put it towards roads.

When pigs fly.  Anything controversial always gets pitched as having the proceeds go towards "the kids".

Never trust a politician that uses the phrase "national security," or "we must do it for the kids!"

Never trust a politician.  At all.  Especially those at the state level in Illinois.

FTFY. Obama was from Illinois.
Title: Re: Chicago: Lake Shore Drive (U.S. 41) Closure
Post by: inkyatari on February 18, 2019, 08:49:51 AM
Quote from: 1 on February 16, 2019, 08:13:59 AM
Quote from: Super Mateo on February 16, 2019, 05:59:52 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on February 14, 2019, 11:31:14 AM
Quote from: kphoger on February 13, 2019, 12:22:00 PM
Quote from: quickshade on February 12, 2019, 09:24:30 PM
PS: All for the legal pot, but take all the tax revenue and put it towards roads.

When pigs fly.  Anything controversial always gets pitched as having the proceeds go towards "the kids".

Never trust a politician that uses the phrase "national security," or "we must do it for the kids!"

Never trust a politician.  At all.  Especially those at the state level in Illinois.

FTFY. Obama was from Illinois.
It was right the first time.