I was listening to Captain Jack by Billy Joel on my car cd player and noticed that particular song is over 7 minutes long on the counter. Despite it surpassing NY State Of Mind which is over 6 minutes long that actually does seems long when played, Captain Jack seems shorter than it when played.
Then you have Guns n Roses November Rain which is 8:57 breaking a record for the Billboard Top Ten when that particular song made the top 10, as no song has ever been that long in that regard. That song does not seem long at all, and if it does you would think its 6 minutes long.
Any songs you heard and were surprised that they exceeded 7 minutes or longer?
I think Fred Bear by Ted Nugent is about 7 minutes
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 22, 2019, 11:15:18 PM
I think Fred Bear by Ted Nugent is about 7 minutes
" About" 7:43
There's the full 8-minute version of Money For Nothing.
Silent Running by Mike And The Mechanics doesn't seem like it's over 6 minutes long. I suppose it's the long intro.
Quote from: renegade on March 22, 2019, 11:46:45 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 22, 2019, 11:15:18 PM
I think Fred Bear by Ted Nugent is about 7 minutes
" About" 7:43
Funny thing is I know the lyrics to the song and it doesn't seem like it's that long of a song but it does have a lengthy guitar solo I guess
Stranglehold is another Ted Nugent song that's long that's longer than Fred Bear and it seems long too.
My favorite version of Why Can't I Be You by The Cure is 8:07.
Also, the full version of Do You Feel Like I Do by Peter Frampton, with the 'talking guitar' interlude, is 13:48.
Mike
I didn't realize how long Stairway to Heaven was till I once drove to a convenience store while it was on the radio, got out of the car, went into the store, bought and paid for something, went back to the car, and it was still playing.
Quote from: abefroman329 on March 23, 2019, 11:00:29 AM
I didn't realize how long Stairway to Heaven was till I once drove to a convenience store while it was on the radio, got out of the car, went into the store, bought and paid for something, went back to the car, and it was still playing.
Kashmir too.
Quote from: abefroman329 on March 23, 2019, 11:00:29 AM
I didn't realize how long Stairway to Heaven was till I once drove to a convenience store while it was on the radio, got out of the car, went into the store, bought and paid for something, went back to the car, and it was still playing.
I once drove 12 miles when that song was on.
Hey Jude? Of course I never realized that it wasn't long.
Quote from: roadman65 on March 22, 2019, 11:14:00 PM
I was listening to Captain Jack by Billy Joel on my car cd player and noticed that particular song is over 7 minutes long on the counter. Despite it surpassing NY State Of Mind which is over 6 minutes long that actually does seems long when played, Captain Jack seems shorter than it when played.
Then you have Guns n Roses November Rain which is 8:57 breaking a record for the Billboard Top Ten when that particular song made the top 10, as no song has ever been that long in that regard. That song does not seem long at all, and if it does you would think its 6 minutes long.
Any songs you heard and were surprised that they exceeded 7 minutes or longer?
The Manfred Mann album version of "Blinded by the Light" is over 8 minutes and doesn't feel long at all. Surprisingly, it only uses about half of Bruce Springsteen's lyrics (even including those that are done in voice over) from a song of his that ran less than 6 minutes. A Manfred Man version using all of Springsteen's lyrics would likely run over 20 minutes.
Some memorable Springsteen lyrics omitted from the Manfred Mann version:
Some all-hot half-shot was headin' for the hot spot, snappin' his fingers, clappin' his hands
And some fleshpot mascot was tied into a lover's knot with a whatnot in her hand
and
Now in Zanzibar a shooting star was riding in a sidecar humming a lunar tune
Yes and the Avatar said "Blow the bar! but first remove the cookie jar. We're gonna teach these boys to laugh to soon.
and
Some kidnapped handicapped was complaining that he'd caught the clap from some mousetrap he'd bough last night.
I unsnapped his skullcap and between his ears I saw a gap, but figured he'd be alright.
and
I stood up, spun around, spit in the air and fell on the ground and ask him which was the way back home.
He said "Take a right at the light and keep going straight until night and after that you're on your own"
and
Now some hazard from Havard was skunked on beer playing backyard bombadier
And Scotland Yard was trying hard. They sent some dude with calling card. He said "do what you like but don't do it here!"
and
Some all-hot half-shot was headin' for the hot spot, snappin' his fingers, clappin' his hands
And some fleshpot mascot was tied into a lover's knot with a whatnot in her hand
and those lyrics that are obscured by the voice over
And now young Scott with a slingshot finally found a tender spot and throws his lover in the sand
And some bloodshot forget-me-not whispers, "Daddy's within earshot, save the buckshot, turn up the band"
I listened to Stairway to Heaven today in it's entirety. I drove about 6 miles.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/43.579995,-83.846834/43.5221708,-83.7980596/@43.5644664,-83.864979,12.11z/data=!4m3!4m2!3e0!5i1
None of the addresses shown are anything other than just where I was at when the song started and where I was at when the song ended and the route I took.
I've made it from my house past Hartford (20 + miles) on a single live version of Playing in the Band, Scarlet/Fire, or Help>Slip>Franklins by the Grateful Dead.
Jungleland by Bruce Springsteen is 9:33.
There are also several long Yes songs; the album version Roundabout is 8:29, Yours is no Disgrace is 9:41, and the title track from Close to the Edge is 18:12, which is 1:07 longer than Iron Butterfly's In-a-Gadda-da-Vida, and just 22 seconds shorter than Arlo Guthrie's Alice's Restaurant Massacree
The full version of Genesis’ Tonight, Tonight, Tonight is just short of 9 minutes long. It gets a bit repetitive, but at the same time the radio version just feels too short. (There are probably quite a few more Genesis songs that fit that statement.)
"Green Grass and High Tides" by The Outlaws is 9:49 of pure Southern Rock bliss. It doesn't seem that long. In fact, I am listening to it now on YouTube.
"Deacon Blues" by Steely Dan is another long song (at 7:36) that does not, to me, seem that long.
Dire Straits has a couple of long ones besides Money For Nothing. Tunnel of Love comes in at 8:11, but live versions can span out to over 13 minutes. Telegraph Road is 14:17. Creedence's version of Heard it Through the Grapevine and the Chambers Brothers Time Has Come Today each clock in around 11 minutes.
This whole thread reminds me of what I did at a bowling alley once. They had a CD jukebox, and you could play any song on any CD. One of the CD's in there was The Allman Brothers' Eat a Peach. Naturally, I chose Mountain Jam, which clocks in at 33 minutes and 40 seconds. About 20 minutes in, the guy at the counter is searching for the plug because they people were getting annoyed waiting for their song to play. I just watched the struggle and complainers and laughed.
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on March 24, 2019, 03:17:59 PM
Dire Straits has a couple of long ones besides Money For Nothing. Tunnel of Love comes in at 8:11, but live versions can span out to over 13 minutes. Telegraph Road is 14:17. Creedence's version of Heard it Through the Grapevine and the Chambers Brothers Time Has Come Today each clock in around 11 minutes.
This whole thread reminds me of what I did at a bowling alley once. They had a CD jukebox, and you could play any song on any CD. One of the CD's in there was The Allman Brothers' Eat a Peach. Naturally, I chose Mountain Jam, which clocks in at 33 minutes and 40 seconds. About 20 minutes in, the guy at the counter is searching for the plug because they people were getting annoyed waiting for their song to play. I just watched the struggle and complainers and laughed.
I had the eat a peach album double album, and Mountain Jam spanned 2 sides of 1 of the albums. But when it was converted to cd it only took one cd for both albums
Quote from: Takumi on March 23, 2019, 11:08:38 PM
The full version of Genesis' Tonight, Tonight, Tonight is just short of 9 minutes long. It gets a bit repetitive, but at the same time the radio version just feels too short. (There are probably quite a few more Genesis songs that fit that statement.)
The song "Firth of Fifth" goes on for nine and a half minutes.
Then there's "Supper's Ready," which is 23 minutes long.
Quote from: Takumi on March 23, 2019, 11:08:38 PM
The full version of Genesis' Tonight, Tonight, Tonight is just short of 9 minutes long. It gets a bit repetitive, but at the same time the radio version just feels too short. (There are probably quite a few more Genesis songs that fit that statement.)
The radio edit is kind of jarring on that song if you're used to the album version, although I suppose (consistent with the thread concept) it's not a song I "didn't realize was lengthy" because I've always thought it seems like a very long song.
Quote from: amroad17 on March 24, 2019, 02:57:24 AM
"Green Grass and High Tides" by The Outlaws is 9:49 of pure Southern Rock bliss. It doesn't seem that long. In fact, I am listening to it now on YouTube.
That one will always seem long to me, because my introduction to it was in the video game Rock Band. By far the hardest song in the game, and I would usually fail about 7-8 minutes into it on expert. Never managed to do it without cheating. Great song though.
For me, I never realized War Pigs by Black Sabbath was so long. It's 7:58, but it always felt like an average 4-5 minute song to me until I specifically looked at its length.
"Nights in White Satin" by the Moody Blues
...because I hadn't heard the full version with the orchestral arrangement at the end until a few years ago
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Quote from: amroad17 on March 24, 2019, 02:57:24 AM
"Green Grass and High Tides" by The Outlaws is 9:49 of pure Southern Rock bliss. It doesn't seem that long. In fact, I am listening to it now on YouTube.
That one will always seem long to me, because my introduction to it was in the video game Rock Band. By far the hardest song in the game, and I would usually fail about 7-8 minutes into it on expert. Never managed to do it without cheating. Great song though.
For me, I never realized War Pigs by Black Sabbath was so long. It's 7:58, but it always felt like an average 4-5 minute song to me until I specifically looked at its length.
I knew how long War Pigs was thanks to owning most of the games in the Guitar Hero series.
Quote from: mgk920 on March 23, 2019, 10:17:32 AM
My favorite version of Why Can't I Be You by The Cure is 8:07.
The Cure is not afraid to spend many measures at a time with no words–even without any solos to speak of, just regular music over the regular chord progressions. I find it quite refreshing, but it does make for some long songs. One example I'm rather fond of is 'From the Edge of the Deep Green Sea', which clocked in at 7:44 on the album 'Wish'.
Quote from: kphoger on March 25, 2019, 06:56:48 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on March 23, 2019, 10:17:32 AM
My favorite version of Why Can't I Be You by The Cure is 8:07.
The Cure is not afraid to spend many measures at a time with no words–even without any solos to speak of, just regular music over the regular chord progressions. I find it quite refreshing, but it does make for some long songs. One example I'm rather fond of is 'From the Edge of the Deep Green Sea', which clocked in at 7:44 on the album 'Wish'.
Though the product of another time, listening to
Disintegration back in the day was always odd...
"wait, I'm still on the same disc?" Not many single-disc albums clock in at over 71 minutes; though at a time before MP3s were commercially available.
As for really long tracks - it's hard to call them songs - there's Disc One (or two, if on LP) of Miles Davis's
Bitches Brew. Pharoh's Dance and the eponymous track feel like several songs throughout the 20+ minutes of each one, but then all of the melodies tie itself together. Of course, you wouldn't realize that if you're looking at the track listing, but the first time I'd heard it, I had no idea.
Quote from: formulanone on March 25, 2019, 07:13:24 PM
Not many single-disc albums clock in at over 71 minutes;
Somehow, a lot of the first albums I owned were somewhere between 50 and 70 minutes. This led me to believe that was the norm, such that I felt like I was getting ripped off whenever I ended up with a CD that was only 35 or 45 minutes long.
As an example, one of the earliest albums I owned was U2's 'Rattle and Hum', which has 17 tracks and clocks over 72 minutes. Another was the one I mentioned, 'Wish' by The Cure, which clocked 65 minutes.
I remember being keenly aware of how long different songs were on all sorts of albums, because I was big into making mix tapes. In the process of making a mix tape, when you start getting close to the end of the side, you have be shrewd in picking the right songs: short enough to actually fit on the tape, but long enough to not have a bunch of silence at the end.
^^ On 8-track tapes, a song would frequently stop in the middle while the track was switching.
Quote from: Big John on March 25, 2019, 09:26:43 PM
^^ On 8-track tapes, a song would frequently stop in the middle while the track was switching.
That would annoy the HECK out of me. I don't even like to shut the car off and come inside if a song on the radio or CD player hasn't come to its end yet.
If I did not enjoy the following song, I would think that it would be waaaay too long: "Funeral for a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding" by Elton John which clocks in at 11:07.
Quote from: amroad17 on March 26, 2019, 02:02:22 AM
If I did not enjoy the following song, I would think that it would be waaaay too long: "Funeral for a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding" by Elton John which clocks in at 11:07.
Yeah, it's 11:07 of awesome.
There's a story, possibly apocryphal, that the maximum amount of music a first-generation CD could hold was X minutes because the Japanese wanted to fit some classical work or other on a single disc.
Quote from: abefroman329 on March 26, 2019, 09:28:09 AM
Quote from: amroad17 on March 26, 2019, 02:02:22 AM
If I did not enjoy the following song, I would think that it would be waaaay too long: "Funeral for a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding" by Elton John which clocks in at 11:07.
Yeah, it's 11:07 of awesome.
There's a story, possibly apocryphal, that the maximum amount of music a first-generation CD could hold was X minutes because the Japanese wanted to fit some classical work or other on a single disc.
Beethoven's Ninth Symphony. Roughly 74 minutes. Later-generation CDs can fit up to about 80 minutes. That's always been one of the things that bugged me–if I were to transfer my collection of mixed tapes to CD, I couldn't because they're all on 90, 100, or 110-minute cassettes. (I suppose I could use rewriteable CDs that I could then rip to my PC and then burn it all to DVD-Audio, but that would take a lot of time.)
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Quote from: amroad17 on March 26, 2019, 02:02:22 AM
If I did not enjoy the following song, I would think that it would be waaaay too long: "Funeral for a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding" by Elton John which clocks in at 11:07.
Yeah, it's 11:07 of awesome.
There's a story, possibly apocryphal, that the maximum amount of music a first-generation CD could hold was X minutes because the Japanese wanted to fit some classical work or other on a single disc.
Beethoven's Ninth Symphony. Roughly 74 minutes. Later-generation CDs can fit up to about 80 minutes. That's always been one of the things that bugged me–if I were to transfer my collection of mixed tapes to CD, I couldn't because they're all on 90, 100, or 110-minute cassettes. (I suppose I could use rewriteable CDs that I could then rip to my PC and then burn it all to DVD-Audio, but that would take a lot of time.)
Yeah, that's the story.
You could rip the tapes to MP3s and burn the MP3s to a CD, provided you had a CD player that can play MP3s.
I've always wondered why there was never another push to increase the maximum time on a music CD in the 90s.
Quote from: Takumi on March 26, 2019, 11:31:43 AM
I've always wondered why there was never another push to increase the maximum time on a music CD in the 90s.
Probably because there were a whole bunch of other technologies that were being developed in the 90s.
60's on 6 played the extended version of Sky Pilot yesterday. I never realized it was a long song, having only heard the short version before.
Quote from: US71 on March 26, 2019, 11:49:55 AM
60's on 6 played the extended version of Sky Pilot yesterday. I never realized it was a long song, having only heard the short version before.
Yeah that's another one you rarely hear.
I like to think the long songs are for when the DJ has to take a bathroom break.
Quote from: kphoger on March 26, 2019, 01:24:45 PM
I like to think the long songs are for when the DJ has to take a bathroom break.
That is absolutely how they were utilized, particularly In-A-Gadda-Da-Vita.
Quote from: kphoger on March 26, 2019, 01:24:45 PM
I like to think the long songs are for when the DJ has to take a bathroom break.
Alice's Restaurant and Had a Dream/ Sleeping with the Enemy were common when I was in college. I'd be working overnights at Road Runner and the DJ would play one of these or something else when it was time for a bathroom break.
Quote from: US71 on March 26, 2019, 01:32:56 PM
Alice's Restaurant
Holy cow, that whole song on the radio??
Quote from: kphoger on March 26, 2019, 01:45:52 PM
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Alice's Restaurant
Holy cow, that whole song on the radio??
There used to be a classic rock station in DC that, on Thanksgiving, would play literally ANY FCC-approved song if you called in and made a donation to charity. And if they got enough people to pledge enough money towards it, they would play Alice's Restaurant.
Quote from: abefroman329 on March 26, 2019, 02:04:48 PM
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Alice's Restaurant
Holy cow, that whole song on the radio??
There used to be a classic rock station in DC that, on Thanksgiving, would play literally ANY FCC-approved song if you called in and made a donation to charity. And if they got enough people to pledge enough money towards it, they would play Alice's Restaurant.
There's a rock station that has always played Alice's Restaurant on Thanksgiving. Don't recall which one.
Quote from: abefroman329 on March 26, 2019, 02:04:48 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 26, 2019, 01:45:52 PM
Quote from: US71 on March 26, 2019, 01:32:56 PM
Alice's Restaurant
Holy cow, that whole song on the radio??
There used to be a classic rock station in DC that, on Thanksgiving, would play literally ANY FCC-approved song if you called in and made a donation to charity. And if they got enough people to pledge enough money towards it, they would play Alice's Restaurant.
I also recall at one point sometime after early 2004, 94.7-FM in DC did a thing called "Classic Rock A to Z" over several weeks in which they played their entire song library in alphabetical order, including long stuff (I recall they did "In-a-Gadda-Da-Vita" but I don't recall either way as to "Alice's Restaurant"). It had to be after early 2004 because someone called in to ask whether they'd play "Star Star" and the DJ's response was incredulous that someone would even suggest it in view of the FCC's stricter attitude after the infamous Super Bowl XXXVIII halftime show.
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 26, 2019, 02:12:04 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on March 26, 2019, 02:04:48 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 26, 2019, 01:45:52 PM
Quote from: US71 on March 26, 2019, 01:32:56 PM
Alice's Restaurant
Holy cow, that whole song on the radio??
There used to be a classic rock station in DC that, on Thanksgiving, would play literally ANY FCC-approved song if you called in and made a donation to charity. And if they got enough people to pledge enough money towards it, they would play Alice's Restaurant.
I also recall at one point sometime after early 2004, 94.7-FM in DC did a thing called "Classic Rock A to Z" over several weeks in which they played their entire song library in alphabetical order, including long stuff (I recall they did "In-a-Gadda-Da-Vita" but I don't recall either way as to "Alice's Restaurant"). It had to be after early 2004 because someone called in to ask whether they'd play "Star Star" and the DJ's response was incredulous that someone would even suggest it in view of the FCC's stricter attitude after the infamous Super Bowl XXXVIII halftime show.
It was also 94.7 that did the charity event I mentioned above, and the station got incredibly puritanical post-Nipplegate. At one point they were gonna play a game widely known as Slot Machine In Your Pants, and they flat-out refused to describe it on the air; you had to call in and have them describe it to you over the phone. Never mind that a station in Chicago had described it on the air a decade before that without any issues.
Quote from: abefroman329 on March 26, 2019, 02:50:24 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 26, 2019, 02:12:04 PM
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Quote from: kphoger on March 26, 2019, 01:45:52 PM
Quote from: US71 on March 26, 2019, 01:32:56 PM
Alice's Restaurant
Holy cow, that whole song on the radio??
There used to be a classic rock station in DC that, on Thanksgiving, would play literally ANY FCC-approved song if you called in and made a donation to charity. And if they got enough people to pledge enough money towards it, they would play Alice's Restaurant.
I also recall at one point sometime after early 2004, 94.7-FM in DC did a thing called "Classic Rock A to Z" over several weeks in which they played their entire song library in alphabetical order, including long stuff (I recall they did "In-a-Gadda-Da-Vita" but I don't recall either way as to "Alice's Restaurant"). It had to be after early 2004 because someone called in to ask whether they'd play "Star Star" and the DJ's response was incredulous that someone would even suggest it in view of the FCC's stricter attitude after the infamous Super Bowl XXXVIII halftime show.
It was also 94.7 that did the charity event I mentioned above, and the station got incredibly puritanical post-Nipplegate. At one point they were gonna play a game widely known as Slot Machine In Your Pants, and they flat-out refused to describe it on the air; you had to call in and have them describe it to you over the phone. Never mind that a station in Chicago had described it on the air a decade before that without any issues.
Rock 102 (WAQY) in Springfield, and I'm pretty sure i95 (WRKI) in Danbury, CT did the A-Z thing. WHCN in Hartford before it went soft used to have the Thanks for Listening Countdown every Thanksgiving weekend with the top 1006 rock songs of all-time. Stairway to Heaven was almost always #1.
Many stations play Alice's Restaurant at noon on Thanksgiving Day. All three stations (even WHCN) I mentioned above do it, along with WPLR in New Haven. It's interesting to switch between stations and see what point of the song each one is at.
"Love Is Like Oxygen" by Sweet
The single version (which seems to be the only one that ever gets played...including on the band's various greatest hits compilations) comes in at 3:46.
The album version (on Level Headed) comes in at 6:57 and IMO is SOOO much better.
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on March 26, 2019, 03:37:52 PM
Many stations play Alice's Restaurant at noon on Thanksgiving Day. All three stations (even WHCN) I mentioned above do it, along with WPLR in New Haven. It's interesting to switch between stations and see what point of the song each one is at.
Same here for one particular station that I know of. Maybe it has to do with proximity to the actual location in western Massachusetts?
Quote from: kphoger on March 26, 2019, 01:45:52 PM
Quote from: US71 on March 26, 2019, 01:32:56 PM
Alice's Restaurant
Holy cow, that whole song on the radio??
Only about once a week, usually around 3am
Having been a journalism major in college, I had a lot of classes with folks who were majoring in broadcasting. A number of them had part-time jobs as DJs back when they played real records. We weren't that many years removed from the fame of "Frampton Comes Alive" so it was perfectly acceptable to still play songs from that album. The album version of "Do You Feel Like We Do" was the song of choice when the DJ had to go to the restroom for a bowel movement.
As for album lengths, Van Halen was notorious for putting out short albums. Most of their pre-Hagar releases were not long at all.
In terms of fitting music on CDs or albums, Metallica could have fit "And Justice For All" onto a single vinyl album, but they said they decided to put it on two records instead of one because the sound quality of the compressed grooves would have been worse. It wasn't uncommon for albums of that length to go on just one record, but they decided to use two instead of just one.
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Quote from: amroad17 on March 24, 2019, 02:57:24 AM
"Green Grass and High Tides" by The Outlaws is 9:49 of pure Southern Rock bliss. It doesn't seem that long. In fact, I am listening to it now on YouTube.
That one will always seem long to me, because my introduction to it was in the video game Rock Band. By far the hardest song in the game, and I would usually fail about 7-8 minutes into it on expert. Never managed to do it without cheating. Great song though.
For me, I never realized War Pigs by Black Sabbath was so long. It's 7:58, but it always felt like an average 4-5 minute song to me until I specifically looked at its length.
Rock Band definitely gives you an appreciation for some songs that you would never get otherwise. One time when I had some friends over and it was my turn to pick the song, I casually chose "Roundabout" by Yes, simply because I liked the song.
Yeah, liking a song and inflicting it on your friends in
Rock Band are two entirely separate things. None of us were happy (it seems like "Roundabout" has at least one section designed to torture each instrument).
Mama from Genesis is surprisingly long.
Let It Rain from Eric Clapton is over 7 minutes.
Miracles from Jefferson Starship is just under 7 minutes.
Still Loving You by the Scorpions is over 6 and one half minutes as it only has two verses.
Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Side one of Wish You Were Here) by Pink Floyd is long and it sounds long, but I never realized it exceeded 13 minutes. I thought it was like 10, but I believe the vocals from Waters starts at about 10 after Gilmore's guitar which kicks in I believe at 5 minutes after the synthesizers have a long intro at the start.
Quote from: roadman65 on March 28, 2019, 10:43:05 PM
Mama from Genesis is surprisingly long.
Let It Rain from Eric Clapton is over 7 minutes.
Miracles from Jefferson Starship is just under 7 minutes.
Still Loving You by the Scorpions is over 6 and one half minutes as it only has two verses.
Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Side one of Wish You Were Here) by Pink Floyd is long and it sounds long, but I never realized it exceeded 13 minutes. I thought it was like 10, but I believe the vocals from Waters starts at about 10 after Gilmore's guitar which kicks in I believe at 5 minutes after the synthesizers have a long intro at the start.
Yeah and Shine On You Crazy Diamond was actually split onto the two sides of the Wish You Were Here album due to it not being able to fit otherwise.
Side two version is 12 minutes from end to end, and only less than a minute of vocals in it. Yeah it would have been over 25 minutes not fitting on vinyl.
Quote from: Buck87 on March 25, 2019, 04:18:45 PM
"Nights in White Satin" by the Moody Blues
...because I hadn't heard the full version with the orchestral arrangement at the end until a few years ago
Another Moody Blues song that, unfortunately, doesn't get airplay anymore is "Legend of a Mind," which many called "Timothy Leary's Dead" (which he wasn't at the time) or "The Timothy Leary Song," from 1968. It clocked in at 6:34 but always seemed a couple of minutes shorter to me. One of the best Moodies songs that most people today have never heard of.
Also to realize that the late Ray Thomas ( Moody Blues Flute Player) sung lead on that song. And yes it don't get airplay sadly.
I remember being surprised when I noted that "Light My Fire" (The Doors) was over 7 minutes long on CD. It somehow never seemed nearly that long as played on the radio, though our local oldies station back in the early 90s may have been playing a shortened version of it.
Quote from: Duke87 on March 29, 2019, 12:20:48 AM
I remember being surprised when I noted that "Light My Fire" (The Doors) was over 7 minutes long on CD. It somehow never seemed nearly that long as played on the radio, though our local oldies station back in the early 90s may have been playing a shortened version of it.
The single version was 2:52, while the album version was 7:06. The album version was usually played on the then-new "Progressive Rock" or "Album Oriented Rock" FM stations beginning in 1968-69, but there were few, if any of those yet when the song was released in early 1967.
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Quote from: Duke87 on March 29, 2019, 12:20:48 AM
I remember being surprised when I noted that "Light My Fire" (The Doors) was over 7 minutes long on CD. It somehow never seemed nearly that long as played on the radio, though our local oldies station back in the early 90s may have been playing a shortened version of it.
The single version was 2:52, while the album version was 7:06. The album version was usually played on the then-new "Progressive Rock" or "Album Oriented Rock" FM stations beginning in 1968-69, but there were few, if any of those yet when the song was released in early 1967.
Still not as long as When the Music's Over (10:58), and The End (11:41)
Quote from: Mark68 on March 26, 2019, 03:42:48 PM
"Love Is Like Oxygen" by Sweet
The single version (which seems to be the only one that ever gets played...including on the band's various greatest hits compilations) comes in at 3:46.
The album version (on Level Headed) comes in at 6:57 and IMO is SOOO much better.
I actually had thought about this song reading this topic. And, yes, the album version is incredible!
Many AM Stations of the early 70's (that was when FM was an option in automobiles) played shorten versions of songs even if it cut the song by 10 seconds. Billy Joel's My Life on AM radio cuts out the instrumental part of the last verse, while FM classic stations leave it in.
Then Karnevil Nine by ELP is actually a long song, but the first five minutes of the song on the album is not played at all and the Welcome back my friends to show that never ends is not the actual beginning as many would seem. For those of you wondering it is the song that many call "See The Show" as most do not know it by its true name!
Quote from: roadman65 on April 04, 2019, 11:21:53 PM
For those of you wondering it is the song that many call "See The Show" as most do not know it by its true name!
You could make an entire album out of those songs. "Teenage Wasteland" by the Who. "Sending out an SOS" by the Police. "Rollin' on the River" by CCR. "We Don't Need No Education" by Pink Floyd.
Quote from: kurumi on April 05, 2019, 12:24:39 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 04, 2019, 11:21:53 PM
For those of you wondering it is the song that many call "See The Show" as most do not know it by its true name!
You could make an entire album out of those songs. "Teenage Wasteland" by the Who. "Sending out an SOS" by the Police. "Rollin' on the River" by CCR. "We Don't Need No Education" by Pink Floyd.
I once participated in a trivia night where they accepted "Sail Away" as the correct title of "Orinoco Flow" because the song is known by that name in Europe or some shit, I'm still pissed about that one.
Quote from: kurumi on April 05, 2019, 12:24:39 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 04, 2019, 11:21:53 PM
For those of you wondering it is the song that many call "See The Show" as most do not know it by its true name!
You could make an entire album out of those songs. "Teenage Wasteland" by the Who. "Sending out an SOS" by the Police. "Rollin' on the River" by CCR. "We Don't Need No Education" by Pink Floyd.
Speaking of "Baba O'Riley", which is the first track of
Who's Next, the last track of that album is another song that IMO fits this list: "Won't Get Fooled Again", which is 8 1/2 minutes long (8:32 to be exact).
Used to love Bohemian Rhapsody, now I just can't wait for it to end.
Quote from: texaskdog on April 05, 2019, 03:04:47 PM
Used to love Bohemian Rhapsody, now I just can't wait for it to end.
Same here. It's been overplayed to death.
Quote from: kurumi on April 05, 2019, 12:24:39 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 04, 2019, 11:21:53 PM
For those of you wondering it is the song that many call "See The Show" as most do not know it by its true name!
You could make an entire album out of those songs. "Teenage Wasteland" by the Who. "Sending out an SOS" by the Police. "Rollin' on the River" by CCR. "We Don't Need No Education" by Pink Floyd.
Somebody Tell Me for What She Wants by Wham is a member of that club. The Who also has a song called 515 which has the line Inside Outside Leave Me Alone that might be as well.
Another Brick in the Wall is iffy as it does mention that line in the song quite regurally.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on April 05, 2019, 03:34:27 PM
Quote from: texaskdog on April 05, 2019, 03:04:47 PM
Used to love Bohemian Rhapsody, now I just can't wait for it to end.
Same here. It's been overplayed to death.
Might I suggest the version of Brighton Rock on Live Killers? 13 minutes long, including a great Brian May solo.
Some other songs for the Mistaken Titled list:
Everybody Must Get Stoned by Bob Dylan (Rainy Day Women # 12 & 35)
Drivin That Train by The Grateful Dead (Casey Jones)
In the Beginning by The Beatles (Tomorrow Never Knows)
Major Tom by David Bowie (Space Oddity)
What's my Name? by The Rolling Stones (Sympathy for the Devil)
Blood in the Streets by The Doors (Peace Frog)
Mother Nature on the Run by Neil Young (After the Gold Rush)
I Would Understand by Third Eye Blind (Jumper)
I Just Want You to Know Who I Am by Goo Goo Dolls (Iris)
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on April 05, 2019, 11:49:51 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on April 05, 2019, 03:34:27 PM
Quote from: texaskdog on April 05, 2019, 03:04:47 PM
Used to love Bohemian Rhapsody, now I just can't wait for it to end.
Same here. It's been overplayed to death.
Might I suggest the version of Brighton Rock on Live Killers? 13 minutes long, including a great Brian May solo.
Some other songs for the Mistaken Titled list:
Everybody Must Get Stoned by Bob Dylan (Rainy Day Women # 12 & 35)
Drivin That Train by The Grateful Dead (Casey Jones)
In the Beginning by The Beatles (Tomorrow Never Knows)
Major Tom by David Bowie (Space Oddity)
What's my Name? by The Rolling Stones (Sympathy for the Devil)
Blood in the Streets by The Doors (Peace Frog)
Mother Nature on the Run by Neil Young (After the Gold Rush)
I Would Understand by Third Eye Blind (Jumper)
I Just Want You to Know Who I Am by Goo Goo Dolls (Iris)
This Is Growing Up by Blink 182 (Dammit)
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on April 05, 2019, 11:49:51 PM
the Mistaken Titled list
I Like Big Butts – not the title
Rollin' on the River – not the title
Somewhere over the Rainbow – not the title
My Country, 'Tis of Thee – not the title
The Sound of Silence – This song was actually called
The Sounds of Silence both as a single and on the album
Wednesday Morning, 3 A.M.. The song title eventually dropped the
s from the second word, so you could say both are correct, but, back when it was being played on the radio as a new song, the title definitely still had an
s in it (which does not mean Selina Jones is a philosopher, despite what Mr and Mrs Hendy think).
"The Siege and Investiture of Baron von Frankenstein's Castle at Weisseria" comes in at 6:47 on Youtube. A bit long no doubt but can anyone think of a song with a longer name?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAXLlaW_4cM
Rick
I know of a song called "Right I'm Gonna Get Shedded This Weekend And Eat Some Spinach" , which is one word shorter overall but has fewer articles and such.
There's also Fiona Apple's album "When The Pawn..." , which has the full name "When the Pawn Hits the Conflicts He Thinks Like a King What He Knows Throws the Blows When He Goes to the Fight and He'll Win the Whole Thing 'fore He Enters the Ring There's No Body to Batter When Your Mind Is Your Might so When You Go Solo, You Hold Your Own Hand and Remember That Depth Is the Greatest of Heights and If You Know Where You Stand, Then You Know Where to Land and If You Fall It Won't Matter, Cuz You'll Know That You're Right."
Quote from: nexus73 on April 06, 2019, 10:26:04 AM
"The Siege and Investiture of Baron von Frankenstein's Castle at Weisseria" comes in at 6:47 on Youtube. A bit long no doubt but can anyone think of a song with a longer name?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAXLlaW_4cM
Rick
By word count, "Standing Outside a Broken Phone Booth with Money in My Hand" is a tie.
Might need to cross-post that one in the Obsolete Songs thread.
Pink Floyd has "Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict" during the psychedelic era of the group.
What about that Faces song with that really long song title?
Long song titles department: "When The World Is Running Down, You Make The Best of What's Still Around." Why that song title wasn't shortened to the point where the comma goes, I'll never know.
Songs you thought were entitled something else: "Quinn The Eskimo." I always thought it was called "The Mighty Quinn." And didn't realize that it's a Bob Dylan song. I never knew who did the popular version until this week, when I found out it was Manfred Mann. I'm a fan of Krokus' cover version.
Actually, this might be a serious contender.
https://youtu.be/bT172Q1nYpM
Quote from: hbelkins on April 06, 2019, 07:10:16 PM
Songs you thought were entitled something else: "Quinn The Eskimo." I always thought it was called "The Mighty Quinn." And didn't realize that it's a Bob Dylan song. I never knew who did the popular version until this week, when I found out it was Manfred Mann.
Meanwhile, I've only ever known it by Dylan and knew its proper title because of the album track list.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 06, 2019, 06:20:29 PM
Pink Floyd has "Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict" during the psychedelic era of the group.
Which was really just Roger Waters playing tape at different speeds forward & backward.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 28, 2019, 10:48:20 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 28, 2019, 10:43:05 PM
Mama from Genesis is surprisingly long.
Let It Rain from Eric Clapton is over 7 minutes.
Miracles from Jefferson Starship is just under 7 minutes.
Still Loving You by the Scorpions is over 6 and one half minutes as it only has two verses.
Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Side one of Wish You Were Here) by Pink Floyd is long and it sounds long, but I never realized it exceeded 13 minutes. I thought it was like 10, but I believe the vocals from Waters starts at about 10 after Gilmore's guitar which kicks in I believe at 5 minutes after the synthesizers have a long intro at the start.
Yeah and Shine On You Crazy Diamond was actually split onto the two sides of the Wish You Were Here album due to it not being able to fit otherwise.
I don't think it was not being able to fit it. I think they wanted to have it bookend the album as a tribute to Syd Barrett. It wasn't the first time they would have the end of the album sound like it continues to the beginning (if played again). The outro to "Eclipse" on
Dark Side of the Moon could be played seamlessly into "Speak to Me". Likewise, the end of "Outside the Wall" on
The Wall flows into the beginning of "In the Flesh?".
Animals is bookended by two relatively upbeat acoustic songs of exactly the same length ("Pigs on the Wing" Parts 1 & 2). Each one is a 1:24 bookend to the remaining three songs of heavy, dark, lengthy (38:52 between them) material.
Quote from: Mark68 on April 08, 2019, 01:51:34 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 28, 2019, 10:48:20 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 28, 2019, 10:43:05 PM
Mama from Genesis is surprisingly long.
Let It Rain from Eric Clapton is over 7 minutes.
Miracles from Jefferson Starship is just under 7 minutes.
Still Loving You by the Scorpions is over 6 and one half minutes as it only has two verses.
Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Side one of Wish You Were Here) by Pink Floyd is long and it sounds long, but I never realized it exceeded 13 minutes. I thought it was like 10, but I believe the vocals from Waters starts at about 10 after Gilmore's guitar which kicks in I believe at 5 minutes after the synthesizers have a long intro at the start.
Yeah and Shine On You Crazy Diamond was actually split onto the two sides of the Wish You Were Here album due to it not being able to fit otherwise.
I don't think it was not being able to fit it. I think they wanted to have it bookend the album as a tribute to Syd Barrett. It wasn't the first time they would have the end of the album sound like it continues to the beginning (if played again). The outro to "Eclipse" on Dark Side of the Moon could be played seamlessly into "Speak to Me". Likewise, the end of "Outside the Wall" on The Wall flows into the beginning of "In the Flesh?".
Animals is bookended by two relatively upbeat acoustic songs of exactly the same length ("Pigs on the Wing" Parts 1 & 2). Each one is a 1:24 bookend to the remaining three songs of heavy, dark, lengthy (38:52 between them) material.
No it was going to be just one song but I think they did realize that it would work better as bookends for the entire album.
Quote from: abefroman329 on April 06, 2019, 05:57:20 PM
Quote from: nexus73 on April 06, 2019, 10:26:04 AM
"The Siege and Investiture of Baron von Frankenstein's Castle at Weisseria" comes in at 6:47 on Youtube. A bit long no doubt but can anyone think of a song with a longer name?
By word count, "Standing Outside a Broken Phone Booth with Money in My Hand" is a tie.
Might need to cross-post that one in the Obsolete Songs thread.
Mid-2000s Fall Out Boy was pretty well known for their habit of long song titles: "Our Lawyer Made Us Change the Name of This Song So We Wouldn't Get Sued" (2005, 15 words), "I've Got a Dark Alley and a Bad Idea That Says You Should Shut Your Mouth" (2005, 16 words), "I Slept with Someone in Fall Out Boy and All I Got Was This Stupid Song Written About Me" (2005, 19 words), "I'm Like a Lawyer with the Way I'm Always Trying to Get You Off" (2007, 14 words). After they broke up and got back together, they switched to more conventional, shorter song titles.
I'm not sure if this is a comprehensive list (http://klck1400.com/seeing_is_believing/2933), but it does feature a lot from The Flaming Lips (as expected). I think “My Cosmic Autumn Rebellion (The Inner Life as Blazing Shield of Defiance and Optimism as Celestial Spear of Action)” would be the highest/longest one that I own on that list. Since they were fond of parenthetical song titles (with Some Other Information in the Title That Only Made Sense if You're High), it almost doesn't count.
I do have to hand it to this one: “Long Song Titles Aren’t Cool Anymore Because the Rest of You Fuckers Are No Good at It” – Crime In Stereo