We all talked about the Dallas saga and the Season 9 dream thing was very strange concept for television. I thought I would start a thread now to discuss other strange things characters or writers have done throughout the years on TV.
Here are mine:
How come Wilson on Home Improvement never showed his face?
How come Maris on Frasier never showed her entire body?
How come Charlie on Charlie's Angels never revealed himself to the girls?
How come the Howells brought a couple of treasure chests with them on a 3-hour tour in Gilligans Island?
Wilson was because of childhood interactions someone involved with the show (either Tim Allen or one of the writers) had with a neighbor, where he never saw his face through the fence.
Quote from: Big John on April 01, 2019, 11:00:28 PM
How come the Howells brought a couple of treasure chests with them on a 3-hour tour in Gilligans Island?
Or, when Gilligan accidentally foiled the Professor's escape plan, why didn't they just try it again (this time keeping Gilligan occupied, far away from the rest)?
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Quote from: Big John on April 01, 2019, 11:00:28 PM
How come the Howells brought a couple of treasure chests with them on a 3-hour tour in Gilligans Island?
Or, when Gilligan accidentally foiled the Professor's escape plan, why didn't they just try it again (this time keeping Gilligan occupied, far away from the rest)?
Why could they not build their own boat and just float back to Honolulu?
Quote from: Big John on April 01, 2019, 11:00:28 PM
How come the Howells brought a couple of treasure chests with them on a 3-hour tour in Gilligans Island?
A 3-hour tour means the destination is max 90 minutes from shore.
The boat they were on has a cruising speed of 12 knots (13.8 mph)
This gives you a range of 20.7 miles.
If you're in a resort area, just find a 30-story hotel tower; the view to the horizon from 300 feet up is 21.2 miles.
Get a good enough spyglass, and... "Oh. There they are."
Specs for the fictional boat:
http://www.gilligansisle.com/minnow.html
Quote from: roadman65 on April 01, 2019, 10:52:23 PMHow come Wilson on Home Improvement never showed his face?
How come Maris on Frasier never showed her entire body?
How come Charlie on Charlie's Angels never revealed himself to the girls?
Add "How come one never
fully sees Norm's wife Vera on
Cheers?"
Note: While she is seen in one Season 5 episode, her face is covered with a pie.
Quote from: roadman65 on April 01, 2019, 10:52:23 PMHow come Wilson on Home Improvement never showed his face?
Because he was supposed to be an "everyman" character; your older, wiser, (maybe) wealthier neighbor with more free time and more time to contemplate the mysteries of the universe/dispense advice.
Quote from: roadman65 on April 01, 2019, 10:52:23 PMHow come Maris on Frasier never showed her entire body?
Because they could never find an actor that could match the descriptions of her.
Quote from: Big John on April 01, 2019, 11:00:28 PM
How come the Howells brought a couple of treasure chests with them on a 3-hour tour in Gilligans Island?
And why did Ginger bring her entire wardrobe with her?
How come on Dallas (where Ginger went on to be JR's mistress) the upstairs after the seventh season was bigger than the outside of the house?
Up until the Southfork Fire you never saw an upstairs corridor, but the corridor and the amount of rooms per side should not fit as the front of the house from the exterior shots only has three balconies from the front.
Then in Season Four when Bobby was president of Ewing Oil he had problems with liquid cash to go into a deal with the Cartel as his daddy spent the reserves on real estate. Yet the moment JR stepped back in after driving Bobby out of the president's chair, the company had a lot of reserve cash so JR can pay off rebels in a foreign nation to get his oil wells back of the unnamed Southeast Asian country government who stole them from him.
I always thought that JR used his own money, but being the fate of Ewing Oil was at stake when Jeremy Wendell squealed on JR to the Texas Senate and not the fate of JR alone, it had to be with company funds as if JR did it solo he would have faced investigation alone and the company charter would have not been an issue to the authorities.
Also how the hell did Detective McSween get a warrant out on Kristin for prostitution so easily. Its not that easy to just ask a judge to issue a warrant for an arrest without proof. Remember the Who Shot JR episode, he had McSween knock on her door to give her notice to leave town which prompted her to shoot JR.
In the pilot, Clair Huxtable asks Cliff why they have four kids and he responds "Because five would be too many." Later, we learn they have five kids.
Probably because of Vanessa Williams contraversial Playboy Pictorial which featured her in a lesbian photo shoot. She was to be the fifth kid at the time when this nation was not that open minded.
Today you have Ellen Degeneres, Sara Gilbert, and many others who are in the alternate lifestyle and have shows that keep them. In the 1980's they were given hardship by sponsors and such.
Quote from: roadman65 on April 02, 2019, 09:30:41 PM
Probably because of Vanessa Williams contraversial Playboy Pictorial which featured her in a lesbian photo shoot. She was to be the fifth kid at the time when this nation was not that open minded.
Today you have Ellen Degeneres, Sara Gilbert, and many others who are in the alternate lifestyle and have shows that keep them. In the 1980's they were given hardship by sponsors and such.
Actually, Ellen's first show (titled
Ellen) that ran during the 90s ultimately took a sizable blow in the ratings after her character was
outed and every subsequent episode dwelled on such. The show was cancelled one year/season later.
Howard's mom in The Big Bang Theory is never shown as well.
Tim Allen's shows have been family friendly; first with 3 boys and the 2nd with 3 girls (or whatever children and inlaws he now has). However, as a stand-up comedian, he shoots for the adult crowd. I remember one story where he was about to deliver his normal routine when he realized the crowd was filled with kids, and drastically had to change his material for that performance.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 03, 2019, 08:44:02 AM
Howard's mom in The Big Bang Theory is never shown as well.
Yup, and the character was killed off in the later seasons; thereby eliminating any chance of seeing the character at all in future episodes.
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Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 03, 2019, 08:44:02 AM
Howard's mom in The Big Bang Theory is never shown as well.
Yup, and the character was killed off in the later seasons; thereby eliminating any chance of seeing the character at all in future episodes.
Didn't the woman die who did the voice of the mom? I think that's why they killed off the character.
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Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 03, 2019, 08:44:02 AM
Howard's mom in The Big Bang Theory is never shown as well.
Yup, and the character was killed off in the later seasons; thereby eliminating any chance of seeing the character at all in future episodes.
Didn't the woman die who did the voice of the mom? I think that's why they killed off the character.
Yes, she did; it was Carol Ann Susi.
As for unseen characters, Seinfeld has not one, but two: Bob Saccamano and Lomez.
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Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 03, 2019, 08:44:02 AM
Howard's mom in The Big Bang Theory is never shown as well.
Yup, and the character was killed off in the later seasons; thereby eliminating any chance of seeing the character at all in future episodes.
Didn't the woman die who did the voice of the mom? I think that's why they killed off the character.
Yes, she did; it was Carol Ann Susi.
That would certainly explain it. I guess the casting crew either couldn't find or weren't interested in recasting the role with someone that had or could do a similar voice.
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Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 03, 2019, 08:44:02 AM
Howard's mom in The Big Bang Theory is never shown as well.
Yup, and the character was killed off in the later seasons; thereby eliminating any chance of seeing the character at all in future episodes.
Didn't the woman die who did the voice of the mom? I think that's why they killed off the character.
Yes, she did; it was Carol Ann Susi.
As for unseen characters, Seinfeld has not one, but two: Bob Saccamano and Lomez.
George Steinbrenner was also somewhat not seen. :D
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Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 03, 2019, 08:44:02 AM
Howard's mom in The Big Bang Theory is never shown as well.
Yup, and the character was killed off in the later seasons; thereby eliminating any chance of seeing the character at all in future episodes.
Didn't the woman die who did the voice of the mom? I think that's why they killed off the character.
Yes, she did; it was Carol Ann Susi.
As for unseen characters, Seinfeld has not one, but two: Bob Saccamano and Lomez.
George Steinbrenner was also somewhat not seen. :D
Voiced by Larry David; don't know who they used as the body double, though.
In the Brady Bunch, why did the architect father design a house with only one bathroom, and didn't include a toilet?
Quote from: Big John on April 04, 2019, 04:45:16 PMIn the Brady Bunch, why did the architect father design a house with only one bathroom, and didn't include a toilet?
Prior to sitcoms like
All in the Family, bathroom shots of toilets were hardly ever shown. Such was still considered taboo to show on TV back then.
In the case of
The Brady Bunch, a toilet in the shared-connecting bathroom was assumed. It was also assumed that the master bedroom (Mike & Carol's room) had a full bathroom of its own as well.
Additionally; one never see's Alice's bedroom, likely accessed via the rear kitchen door, let alone a likely bathroom on the main floor.
Quote from: PHLBOS on April 04, 2019, 05:04:41 PM
Quote from: Big John on April 04, 2019, 04:45:16 PMIn the Brady Bunch, why did the architect father design a house with only one bathroom, and didn't include a toilet?
Prior to sitcoms like All in the Family, bathroom shots of toilets were hardly ever shown. Such was still considered taboo to show on TV back then.
In the case of The Brady Bunch, a toilet in the shared-connecting bathroom was assumed. It was also assumed that the master bedroom (Mike & Carol's room) had a full bathroom of its own as well.
Additionally; one never see's Alice's bedroom, likely accessed via the rear kitchen door, let alone a likely bathroom on the main floor.
Alice's bedroom was seen in the episode where she sprung her ankle in Season One. Yes it was all assumed and it was All In The Family that brought out the bathroom including the scene in one episode where Archie was trapped on the John without toilet paper having to yell at Edith from upstairs that "We are out of toilet paper" followed by Archie's response to Edith after she said that it was in the kitchen "It does not do me good down there when I am up here" stating that Archie did number two and has an unclean bunghole would not been allowed originally with that suggestion.
What about the way the Odd Couple had two season three episodes with Oscar's mom coming to visit. One episode featured her totally unaware of Oscar's divorce and had to call in his ex wife to pretend they were still wed, while the other episode stated by Oscar that his mom was present at the courthouse the day of his divorce.
Now I am aware each Odd Couple episode was self contained and no story lines went from one to the next nor were previous stories ever referred to again. Even when Howard Cosell was on twice the second time even never referred to his first time on the show, but being these two mom episodes were both the same season, the writers should have not forgotten nor Garry Marshall who produced the show its entire five year run after a short gap.
On the original Roseanne, Dan dies near the end, but is alive on the revival and its spinoff, The Conners. I was told that there were protests of some sort, so they brought him back to life.
Not to mention that The Conners begins with Roseanne being the one who's dead, and we all know why.
Quote from: Henry on April 05, 2019, 11:56:43 AM
On the original Roseanne, Dan dies near the end, but is alive on the revival and its spinoff, The Conners. I was told that there were protests of some sort, so they brought him back to life.
It seemed like they retconned almost the entire last season of the original run of Roseanne. For example, neither Bev nor Jackie are gay (the last season had Bev come out, but then at the end, Roseanne said it was actually Jackie).
Schneider from 'One Day At A Time' constantly chewed gum, but he never blew bubbles.
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Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 03, 2019, 08:44:02 AM
Howard's mom in The Big Bang Theory is never shown as well.
Yup, and the character was killed off in the later seasons; thereby eliminating any chance of seeing the character at all in future episodes.
Didn't the woman die who did the voice of the mom? I think that's why they killed off the character.
Yes, she did; it was Carol Ann Susi.
As for unseen characters, Seinfeld has not one, but two: Bob Saccamano and Lomez.
George Steinbrenner was also somewhat not seen. :D
Voiced by Larry David; don't know who they used as the body double, though.
Didn't Steinbrenner ultimately appear as himself in an episode?
Quote from: bandit957 on April 06, 2019, 07:42:30 PM
Schneider from 'One Day At A Time' constantly chewed gum, but he never blew bubbles.
He also had a pack of cigarettes in his sleeve but you never saw him light up.
Quote from: Big John on April 04, 2019, 04:45:16 PM
In the Brady Bunch, why did the architect father design a house with only one bathroom, and didn't include a toilet?
I don't recall that they ever stated in the series that Mike Brady designed the house they lived in. More importantly, for the exterior shots, why did they choose a house that obviously didn't match the floor plan implied by the interior sets.
Quote from: roadman on April 07, 2019, 09:28:40 AM
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In the Brady Bunch, why did the architect father design a house with only one bathroom, and didn't include a toilet?
I don't recall that they ever stated in the series that Mike Brady designed the house they lived in. More importantly, for the exterior shots, why did they choose a house that obviously didn't match the floor plan implied by the interior sets.
They did explicitly state it at least once (they were trying to get a Christmas tree through their front door and Mike said that he designed the house with a double front door for a reason). It was also a plot point in the 1990s movie; namely, that all Mike can design is that house.
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Quote from: Big John on April 04, 2019, 04:45:16 PM
In the Brady Bunch, why did the architect father design a house with only one bathroom, and didn't include a toilet?
I don't recall that they ever stated in the series that Mike Brady designed the house they lived in. More importantly, for the exterior shots, why did they choose a house that obviously didn't match the floor plan implied by the interior sets.
They did explicitly state it at least once (they were trying to get a Christmas tree through their front door and Mike said that he designed the house with a double front door for a reason). It was also a plot point in the 1990s movie; namely, that all Mike can design is that house.
Thanks for the clarification. I recall the episode now, but don't remember that line. As for the 1990 movie, no comment.
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Quote from: Big John on April 04, 2019, 04:45:16 PM
In the Brady Bunch, why did the architect father design a house with only one bathroom, and didn't include a toilet?
I don't recall that they ever stated in the series that Mike Brady designed the house they lived in. More importantly, for the exterior shots, why did they choose a house that obviously didn't match the floor plan implied by the interior sets.
They did explicitly state it at least once (they were trying to get a Christmas tree through their front door and Mike said that he designed the house with a double front door for a reason). It was also a plot point in the 1990s movie; namely, that all Mike can design is that house.
Thanks for the clarification. I recall the episode now, but don't remember that line. As for the 1990 movie, no comment.
Sorry, I meant the first of two Gary Cole/Shelley Long movies; I forgot the revivals with (most, if not all of) the original cast lasted into the early 1990s. And I'll fight anyone who says the Gary Cole/Shelley Long movies aren't awesome.
Discovered this one while reading a recent article regarding when the final episode of The Big Bang Theory will air (May 16 for those that don't know); was Penny's maiden name ever mentioned?
Quote from: PHLBOS on April 16, 2019, 12:14:56 PM
Discovered this one while reading a recent article regarding when the final episode of The Big Bang Theory will air (May 16 for those that don't know); was Penny's maiden name ever mentioned?
It was not, and on IMDB and the like her character name was just "Penny" until she married Leonard and took his last name.
The dream on Married With Children as it was made to fit in with Katie Segal's miscarriage in real life. Copied Dallas and Newhart with their episodes part of a dream of one of the characters.
Seinfeld, which had mostly Self Contained episodes with each being in its own world, minus George's engagement to Susan there were no story arcs that spanned from one episode to the next.
However, in the series finale they showed the flashbacks of the nine seasons it was on the air as tribute to the show, so they did feature clips of the previous episodes to even bringing back the guest stars who appeared in those shown episodes.
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Seinfeld, which had mostly Self Contained episodes with each being in its own world, minus George's engagement to Susan there were no story arcs that spanned from one episode to the next.
However, in the series finale they showed the flashbacks of the nine seasons it was on the air as tribute to the show, so they did feature clips of the previous episodes to even bringing back the guest stars who appeared in those shown episodes.
I remember one episode where Elaine bubbled at Jerry's apartment and there wasn't any explanation of why.
Also before George got hired by the NY Yankees, he was a bum. He mooched off his parents as he had no talent nor his bedside manners for a job, yet Kramer also was unemployed getting into get rich quick schemes and such, but no one ever picked on Kramer for being unemployed like ole George was when he had no job.
Oh yeah, I forgot the strangest situation on TV was both Mash and Hogan's Heroes which both lasted longer than the wars lasted that they both were in.
Plus Hogan's Heroes replaced Ivan Dixon with another actor Kenneth Washington, but kept the episodes of both sets of episodes self contained from each other as when Washington joined, his character of Baker was made to appear like he was with the clan the whole time and Klinchoe never existed at all.
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Seinfeld, which had mostly Self Contained episodes with each being in its own world, minus George's engagement to Susan there were no story arcs that spanned from one episode to the next.
And of course the Season 4 story arc of Jerry and George becoming sitcom writers...
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/04/28/717595757/brady-bunch-episode-fuels-campaigns-against-vaccines-and-marcia-s-miffed
A Brady Bunch episode from 50 years ago is getting a second look over Measles.
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Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 03, 2019, 08:44:02 AM
Howard's mom in The Big Bang Theory is never shown as well.
Yup, and the character was killed off in the later seasons; thereby eliminating any chance of seeing the character at all in future episodes.
Didn't the woman die who did the voice of the mom? I think that's why they killed off the character.
Great avatar.
Quote from: bandit957 on April 06, 2019, 07:42:30 PM
Schneider from 'One Day At A Time' constantly chewed gum, but he never blew bubbles.
Was it bubble gum? I chew gum sometimes, but it's usually not bubble gum.
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Quote from: roadman65 on April 30, 2019, 09:26:54 PM
Seinfeld, which had mostly Self Contained episodes with each being in its own world, minus George's engagement to Susan there were no story arcs that spanned from one episode to the next.
And of course the Season 4 story arc of Jerry and George becoming sitcom writers...
Forgot that one. Isn't that when Kramer got arrested also?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR6NEv6yCEg&feature=youtu.be
Then you had Marcia get braces for one episode in Season One never to wear them again.
Yet in Season Four Jan wears them the entire season, and in Season Five you have Bobby wear them the latter half of that season with even Cindy having them in the final Cousin Oliver episodes.
Quote from: roadman65 on May 04, 2019, 09:39:46 PM
Then you had Marcia get braces for one episode in Season One never to wear them again.
Yet in Season Four Jan wears them the entire season, and in Season Five you have Bobby wear them the latter half of that season with even Cindy having them in the final Cousin Oliver episodes.
And that was in the '70s when hardly anyone else had them. I don't think I ever saw anyone with them until later.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR6NEv6yCEg&feature=youtu.be
Anti-vaxxers have seized upon this epsiode, for some idiotic reason. Fun thing is that Marcia's not happy about that:
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/441142-actress-who-played-marcia-brady-blasts-anti-vaccination-groups-for-using
Quote from: roadman65 on May 04, 2019, 09:39:46 PM
Then you had Marcia get braces for one episode in Season One never to wear them again.
Yet in Season Four Jan wears them the entire season, and in Season Five you have Bobby wear them the latter half of that season with even Cindy having them in the final Cousin Oliver episodes.
I would
assume that the one-off case was fake prosthetic braces for that week's story, while for the others, the actors had them in real life.
Keep in mind that the Brady Bunch episodes are all self contained minus the Season 3 opener and the Season 5 opener which had a 3 episode story arc each.
Yes I think that was the case where Marcia and her braces as Maureen McCormick did not have them in real life so it was added as a one episode story line for a good topic that kids at the time faced.
Eve Plumb, Mike Lookiland, and Susan Olsen all did have them in real life so it was not that big an issue to feature it again in stories. However, Jan and her glasses might of been Eve Plumb having to wear glasses in real life that the producers thought that would make a great story line for an episode and allow us viewers to see when Jan began wearing glasses. However, in the last season the glasses were gone, but we can assume that Jan wore contacts.
However close to having two episodes share a common story was the bet episode where Greg did lose a bet to Bobby and Greg had to take his brother along to a drive in on his date with Sherwood Schwarz's real life daughter where later another episode featured Greg taking the girl out again, which did mention the previous season episode in the second time around.
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Seinfeld, which had mostly Self Contained episodes with each being in its own world, minus George's engagement to Susan there were no story arcs that spanned from one episode to the next.
And of course the Season 4 story arc of Jerry and George becoming sitcom writers...
Forgot that one. Isn't that when Kramer got arrested also?
Well, all 4 of them were arrested and sentenced to jail in the closing episode, which included the "sitcom writer" plot line. Private plane trip before "Jerry" was to go into production. I really should remember if Kramer was arrested during the few episodes in which he lived in California...
Quote from: roadman65 on May 08, 2019, 07:12:55 PM
Keep in mind that the Brady Bunch episodes are all self contained minus the Season 3 opener and the Season 5 opener which had a 3 episode story arc each.
Yes I think that was the case where Marcia and her braces as Maureen McCormick did not have them in real life so it was added as a one episode story line for a good topic that kids at the time faced.
Eve Plumb, Mike Lookiland, and Susan Olsen all did have them in real life so it was not that big an issue to feature it again in stories. However, Jan and her glasses might of been Eve Plumb having to wear glasses in real life that the producers thought that would make a great story line for an episode and allow us viewers to see when Jan began wearing glasses. However, in the last season the glasses were gone, but we can assume that Jan wore contacts.
However close to having two episodes share a common story was the bet episode where Greg did lose a bet to Bobby and Greg had to take his brother along to a drive in on his date with Sherwood Schwarz's real life daughter where later another episode featured Greg taking the girl out again, which did mention the previous season episode in the second time around.
Ah yes. The "not your exact words" episode. I'm reminded of that every time I hear of a guilty verdict for a serious crime being thrown out on a technicality.
Lots of old shows had scenes where measles was the topic including the Flintstones.https://www.wbur.org/endlessthread/2019/05/03/the-flintstone-dilemma (https://www.wbur.org/endlessthread/2019/05/03/the-flintstone-dilemma)
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDb0ZS3vB9g)
Quote from: bing101 on June 06, 2019, 10:18:53 AM
Lots of old shows had scenes where measles was the topic including the Flintstones.
https://www.wbur.org/endlessthread/2019/05/03/the-flintstone-dilemma (https://www.wbur.org/endlessthread/2019/05/03/the-flintstone-dilemma)
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDb0ZS3vB9g)
Yeah, for some reason anti-vaxxers have decided that their authority comes from old sitcoms than medical professionals.
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Lots of old shows had scenes where measles was the topic including the Flintstones.
https://www.wbur.org/endlessthread/2019/05/03/the-flintstone-dilemma
Yeah, for some reason anti-vaxxers have decided that their authority comes from old sitcoms than medical professionals.
And they turned Measles into a Political issue leading up to the 2020 elections. Measles is supposed to be explained as a scientific issue but it went crazy from there in 2019.
Everything is a political issue nowadays. :)
Speaking of toilets in sitcoms:
................the "Royal Flush" episode of Married with Children, where Al's favorite downstairs toilet gave up the ghost -- and all he could find were "low-flush" models to replace it -- was at once one of the funniest yet illogical episodes of the series. The main plot point was that he had to resort to an "underground" toilet-supply cadre to get a toilet with a "manly" flush, and it took him the whole 22-minute episode and ventures all over Chicagoland to do so. Even pre-internet (the episode was around 1992, IIRC), all one would have to do was locate a commercial plumbing distributor in the yellow pages and go and buy a commercial piece. I had to replace a commercial toilet in my business a few years back, and it took me all of 45 minutes to buy one and have it back in the rest room. Now there was a secondary plot point in the MwC episode that IL metro "weenies" had prohibited sales of heavy-flush units -- even so, it's a quick trip to WI or IN!
Regardless of the lack of plot realism (or perhaps even because of it!) the episode was one of the funniest of the series -- particularly at the end, where after installation the first flush shakes the house so much that pictures and mirrors are flying off the walls! Totally un-PC (as was the entire series) and totally hilarious!
They were not supposed to show entire bathrooms in the 1960s. With the The Brady Bunch, that house and back yard both have many problems. The back yard is obviously fake, but at the same time I prefer Astro Turf. It still seems very small. Not sure where they could have parked their cars. Where the bathrooms were really located is only a few of the problems. But there are many of them. It is just that the toilets had to be out of sight. When Greg moved to the attic, it showed that he had his own ... Sink.
It wasn't until other programmes such as All In The Family and The Carol Burnett Show / Eunice / Mama's Family that had a stories about bathrooms, especially with The Harper Family Curse being that several of them died in a bathroom. I don't think toilets were shown in any of these examples either. But occasionally a toilet flush can be heard. More on Mama's Family later.
Perhaps They showed the toilets of The Brady Bunch House in one of the subsequent movies.
About Home Improvement:
Wilson is nothing more than a comedic lampoon of the next door neighbour, a passing acquaintance, where they only talk in the back yard, and behind a wood fence. It is good enough to talk to each other. It is also good enough to see each other, but certainly not clearly.
About The Cosby Show:
The pilot episode could have had a better script. I remember Sondra already moved out of the house which means that they could have meant the four children still at home.
There are only a few episodes of The Cosby Show I watch now, preferring the One Foot In The Grave adaptation: COSBY that aired after this one did. One episode is the episode where Sondra runs off with $79,647.22 U.S.D. (which is around 179,169.79 U.S.D. in 2019) ... The other episode I like is when Vanessa gets chewed out for going to a concert unprepared, loses everything, and on top of that she is not supposed to wear makeup. The Cosby Show seemed to go off in Fairy Tale Land way too much. The specific episodes I mentioned are more Down To Earth.
Additionally, I did not like The Disappearing V.C.R. in The Cosby Show.
I did not like Heathclifford Huxtable. Is it supposed to be Heathcliff Huxtable, or Clifford Huxtable?!
I did not like the set change some time after the first season. There is an extra window under the stairs or a hall or something? It can be accessed in the living room.
Where did they park all their dozens of cars??
The interior of the house is not narrow. ... and I do remember seeing a toilet for upstairs. I have no idea where they would have a toilet for downstairs.
Claire gets her own office. An addition to the house. Where could it have gone? If it is in the back yard, it would block off the garage! And even worse it is not seen again.
The almost most alarming thing on The Cosby Show is how they kept trying to write off Denise.
The most alarming thing on The Cosby Show is the way they introduced Olivia Kendall. They just HAVE to have a young child for every episode, but the way they wrote her in to the show: Denise marries a military man and he has a daughter. The mother is portrayed as being willfully neglectful and abandoned Olivia when she "had to get out of too many responsibilities". However, Olivia is raised by Heathclifford as Martin and Denise get deployed. That makes me sympathize with Olivia's Mother instead.
The set changes again in the last season. The usual inexplicable remodeling of a house at the last minute.
Old Roseanne:
They had stairs to the basement on the "fourth wall", seen in the opening credits. It was seen probably only one time when D.J. snuck a dog inside. It is at the beginning of the episode. Roseanne surprisingly does not have a dog. (Neither does The Cosby Show and neither does COSBY.) But anyways that is the only time they used these stairs. The rest of the time they access the basement from outside. I can understand if the inside stairs are very narrow and perhaps the outdoor entrance is easier. But this is set in Illinois. It would be much warmer to stay inside.
Roseanne's Mother and Roseanne's Grandmother are seen very often. As for Dan, he has a Stepmother. Dan's Biological Mother is seen in one episode perfectly fine. Her next episode she becomes an unseen character. They only talk about her and send her away to be institutionalized. All of this happens off screen. She presumably is locked away for the rest of the show, and is now rewritten as having a lifelong insanity. In the last season she gets out, but is difficult to know what really happened to anybody. Perhaps the reason for these character rewrites is based on Roseanne Barr's real world experiences with mental health facilities, checking herself into one years earlier. But it is still an unexpected rewrite. Ann Wedgeworth, the original actress, did not portray her as unstable. A new career and a new fiance also.
Now ... as for Mrs. Healey. ... The lady that called them "Conner Trash" and "Whores". ... would not surprise me at all if she went dangerously unstable.
Mama's Family:
A common problem in situation comedies: The house interior is one long house with one big overlapping room. The living room, the dining room, the kitchen, and perhaps a small laundry room.
In the original broadcast of Mama's Family, she lives in a huge house. There are rooms on the other side of The Fourth Wall.
And then there is a cast change. Of course this is not that big of a deal be cause she patched things up with those relatives such as Eunice and Ellen.
Also Thelma now lives in a smaller house, but it still has a room on the other side of The Fourth Wall.
I have to assume the other, larger house burned down or some thing.
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Plus Hogan's Heroes replaced Ivan Dixon with another actor Kenneth Washington, but kept the episodes of both sets of episodes self contained from each other as when Washington joined, his character of Baker was made to appear like he was with the clan the whole time and Klinchoe never existed at all.
Hogan's Heroes was ridiculously casual about character handling. A few other examples: Similar to the switching out of Kinchloe for Baker, Cynthia Lynn's Helga disappeared after the first season and was replaced with Sigrid Valdis' Hilda for the remainder of the series with no reference to the change. William Christopher appeared in a couple episodes as another Hero (Thomas or another name) when one of the regulars was off for the week and it was as though he had always been there. Arlene Martel appeared a number of times in the recurring role of underground agent Tiger, but also a couple times as a different agent. Marlyn Mason appeared twice as the same character (Lily Frankel), but the second time she and Hogan had never met before.
Watching The 70's Show on Netflix last night, we noticed that Donna, who was mostly referenced as an only child, had a sister Tina for a single episode (S1 E5), whom Donna had to babysit. Tina made a single appearance. Reading up on this, she was referred in the closing credits on one episode in Season 2, which was solely done to joke about her disappearance.
Additionally in S1 E2, Donna's parents referenced an older sister Valerie, who went to college. She was never physically seen and never referenced again.
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Howard's mom in The Big Bang Theory is never shown as well.
Yup, and the character was killed off in the later seasons; thereby eliminating any chance of seeing the character at all in future episodes.
Didn't the woman die who did the voice of the mom? I think that's why they killed off the character.
Yes, she did; it was Carol Ann Susi.
That would certainly explain it. I guess the casting crew either couldn't find or weren't interested in recasting the role with someone that had or could do a similar voice.
Ironically, Melissa Rauch, who played Bernadette, Howard's GF/wife, had a voice that, when her character was both loud and angry simultaneously, sounded almost exactly like that of his mother! I'm guessing that was deliberate choice by the showrunners and the writers (and a somewhat disturbing reason -- albeit a bit secondary considering her physical attributes -- why Howard was attracted to her!).