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Title: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: Brian556 on April 21, 2019, 10:48:16 PM
Valero Station with gravel surface, no convenience store or attendant booth. Totally unmanned. OK1 at Chickasaw Turnpike. Fitzhugh, OK

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.65617,-96.7954009,3a,44.8y,247.63h,87.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s55pTM3c0f3RzQqjZOccQNg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.65617,-96.7954009,3a,44.8y,247.63h,87.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s55pTM3c0f3RzQqjZOccQNg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: Tonytone on April 21, 2019, 10:53:07 PM
Quote from: Brian556 on April 21, 2019, 10:48:16 PM
Valero Station with gravel surface, no convenience store or attendant booth. Totally unmanned. OK1 at Chickasaw Turnpike. Fitzhugh, OK

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.65617,-96.7954009,3a,44.8y,247.63h,87.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s55pTM3c0f3RzQqjZOccQNg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.65617,-96.7954009,3a,44.8y,247.63h,87.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s55pTM3c0f3RzQqjZOccQNg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Maybe they are building the station piece by piece as time goes on & traffic builds, Im guessing that from the pile of gravel that is to the right of the station, or the area is so safe people wont tamper with the pumps so it can be a standalone station with no attendants or store. I assume it saves the company Valero money, but repairs & errors probably take a little longer & are harder to notice or take care of unless called directly.


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Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: kalvado on April 21, 2019, 11:09:49 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on April 21, 2019, 10:53:07 PM
Quote from: Brian556 on April 21, 2019, 10:48:16 PM
Valero Station with gravel surface, no convenience store or attendant booth. Totally unmanned. OK1 at Chickasaw Turnpike. Fitzhugh, OK

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.65617,-96.7954009,3a,44.8y,247.63h,87.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s55pTM3c0f3RzQqjZOccQNg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.65617,-96.7954009,3a,44.8y,247.63h,87.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s55pTM3c0f3RzQqjZOccQNg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Maybe they are building the station piece by piece as time goes on & traffic builds, Im guessing that from the pile of gravel that is to the right of the station, or the area is so safe people wont tamper with the pumps so it can be a standalone station with no attendants or store. I assume it saves the company Valero money, but repairs & errors probably take a little longer & are harder to notice or take care of unless called directly.


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Doesn't look so: 10 year old Google images look pretty much the same.
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.6549675,-96.7953796,3a,75y,295.91h,67.79t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sc1qBvG1PdO8kibMLcXydfA!2e0!5s20080601T000000!7i3328!8i1664

hope the link works..
Actually 10 years are a bit different, but 2016 and 2018 show same setup.
Title: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: Tonytone on April 21, 2019, 11:12:56 PM
Quote from: kalvado on April 21, 2019, 11:09:49 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on April 21, 2019, 10:53:07 PM
Quote from: Brian556 on April 21, 2019, 10:48:16 PM
Valero Station with gravel surface, no convenience store or attendant booth. Totally unmanned. OK1 at Chickasaw Turnpike. Fitzhugh, OK

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.65617,-96.7954009,3a,44.8y,247.63h,87.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s55pTM3c0f3RzQqjZOccQNg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.65617,-96.7954009,3a,44.8y,247.63h,87.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s55pTM3c0f3RzQqjZOccQNg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Maybe they are building the station piece by piece as time goes on & traffic builds, Im guessing that from the pile of gravel that is to the right of the station, or the area is so safe people wont tamper with the pumps so it can be a standalone station with no attendants or store. I assume it saves the company Valero money, but repairs & errors probably take a little longer & are harder to notice or take care of unless called directly.


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Doesn't look so: 10 year old Google images look pretty much the same.
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.6549675,-96.7953796,3a,75y,295.91h,67.79t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sc1qBvG1PdO8kibMLcXydfA!2e0!5s20080601T000000!7i3328!8i1664

hope the link works..
Wow & also interesting if you click on the link you just said & move up some it shows that the station was once paved with concrete & it was a different gas station brand, I cannot tell what (it is to blurry) it was, but someone who knows the area can see from the sign.

Edit: All the stations are paved but they just added gravel around for extra space.


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Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 22, 2019, 12:19:28 AM
Stations like that are somewhat common in low population states like Nevada.  I actually recall getting gas at a similar Sinclair station when it was -14F below on NV 487 back in 2013 when I headed to the Lehman Caves of Great Basin National Park:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0090928,-114.1230298,2a,75y,95.64h,76.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxm5ZFn0VyzTwxETdTMQC9A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: Tonytone on April 22, 2019, 12:25:31 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 22, 2019, 12:19:28 AM
Stations like that are somewhat common in low population states like Nevada.  I actually recall getting gas at a similar Sinclair station when it was -14F below on NV 487 back in 2013 when I headed to the Lehman Caves of Great Basin National Park:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0090928,-114.1230298,2a,75y,95.64h,76.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxm5ZFn0VyzTwxETdTMQC9A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
Sinclair was the name of the station above in the GSV in its 2nd owner before Valero.


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Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: formulanone on April 22, 2019, 05:01:53 AM
Probably a fleet-only gas station; they accept a few forms of payment by special types of credit cards, and that's all they're for.
Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: jeffandnicole on April 22, 2019, 06:18:31 AM
Quote from: formulanone on April 22, 2019, 05:01:53 AM
Probably a fleet-only gas station; they accept a few forms of payment by special types of credit cards, and that's all they're for.

The painted wording on the roadsign posts read "Gasoline Pumps Open" and "All Major Credit Cards", so that doesn't seem to indicate a fleet only gas station.
Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: formulanone on April 22, 2019, 06:31:32 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 22, 2019, 06:18:31 AM
Quote from: formulanone on April 22, 2019, 05:01:53 AM
Probably a fleet-only gas station; they accept a few forms of payment by special types of credit cards, and that's all they're for.

The painted wording on the roadsign posts read "Gasoline Pumps Open" and "All Major Credit Cards", so that doesn't seem to indicate a fleet only gas station.

I guess I should have zoomed in...
Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: Brandon on April 22, 2019, 07:42:00 AM
Quote from: Brian556 on April 21, 2019, 10:48:16 PM
Valero Station with gravel surface, no convenience store or attendant booth. Totally unmanned. OK1 at Chickasaw Turnpike. Fitzhugh, OK

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.65617,-96.7954009,3a,44.8y,247.63h,87.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s55pTM3c0f3RzQqjZOccQNg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.65617,-96.7954009,3a,44.8y,247.63h,87.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s55pTM3c0f3RzQqjZOccQNg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

They're on concrete (as are all dispensers).  It's just gravel around the concrete (not uncommon in rural areas).
Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on April 22, 2019, 09:26:36 AM
There's a fuel-only Sinclair on the east edge of Duluth; I can only find one (unsubstantiated) comment that the city wouldn't allow a full C-store there for aesthetic reasons
Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: paulthemapguy on April 22, 2019, 09:29:19 AM
Valero?  More like "No-One-Thereo."
Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: SectorZ on April 22, 2019, 09:58:26 AM
If a weird asteroid passes by, the trucks with a mind of their own are going to be very disappointed circling that station.
Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: kalvado on April 22, 2019, 10:13:47 AM
Thinking about it.. I think I saw some unmanned locations listed in Flying J brochure. Somewhere in northern US and central Canada if I remember correctly.. 
Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 22, 2019, 10:16:13 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on April 22, 2019, 09:58:26 AM
If a weird asteroid passes by, the trucks with a mind of their own are going to be very disappointed circling that station.

I'm assuming one of those trucks has a Green Goblin face for some reason?
Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: Avalanchez71 on April 22, 2019, 11:06:08 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 22, 2019, 10:16:13 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on April 22, 2019, 09:58:26 AM
If a weird asteroid passes by, the trucks with a mind of their own are going to be very disappointed circling that station.

I'm assuming one of those trucks has a Green Goblin face for some reason?

If AC/DC should happen to be playing in the background for some reason as well.
Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: Throckmorton on April 22, 2019, 11:20:33 AM
Quote from: Brian556 on April 21, 2019, 10:48:16 PM
Valero Station with gravel surface, no convenience store or attendant booth. Totally unmanned. OK1 at Chickasaw Turnpike. Fitzhugh, OK

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.65617,-96.7954009,3a,44.8y,247.63h,87.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s55pTM3c0f3RzQqjZOccQNg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.65617,-96.7954009,3a,44.8y,247.63h,87.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s55pTM3c0f3RzQqjZOccQNg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

MFA Oil has some similar fuel stops but I think these are the exception rather than the rule.   
   
Most of them have some kind of structure depending on the level of service. Some of them sell bulk fuel. Some of them have a convenience store.   
   
This one doesn't even have a canopy:   
   
https://goo.gl/maps/Hzx4RGsZ8cSe5KAc6   
   
Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: Tonytone on April 22, 2019, 11:24:35 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on April 22, 2019, 09:58:26 AM
If a weird asteroid passes by, the trucks with a mind of their own are going to be very disappointed circling that station.
What movie is this? Been wondering for years, its the movie where all the machines are alive & try to kill people. I haven't seen this movie in years.


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Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 22, 2019, 11:34:01 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on April 22, 2019, 11:24:35 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on April 22, 2019, 09:58:26 AM
If a weird asteroid passes by, the trucks with a mind of their own are going to be very disappointed circling that station.
What movie is this? Been wondering for years, its the movie where all the machines are alive & try to kill people. I haven't seen this movie in years.


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Maximum Overdrive.  It's a horror comedy that was written and directed by Stephen King.  It's supposed to be over the top campy and succeeds in the best way. 
Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: kphoger on April 22, 2019, 02:31:37 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 22, 2019, 12:19:28 AM
Stations like that are somewhat common in low population states like Nevada. 

This.

I do remember Nevada specifically, as my parents tried desperately on a family vacation to find a gas station they could actually pay cash at:  all the ones we kept finding had no attendant on duty, and we were running low on gas.
Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: Tonytone on April 23, 2019, 10:00:02 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 22, 2019, 02:31:37 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 22, 2019, 12:19:28 AM
Stations like that are somewhat common in low population states like Nevada. 

This.

I do remember Nevada specifically, as my parents tried desperately on a family vacation to find a gas station they could actually pay cash at:  all the ones we kept finding had no attendant on duty, and we were running low on gas.
Dont end the story there! Did you guys find a gas station or did you have Triple A


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Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: Tonytone on April 23, 2019, 10:57:23 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 22, 2019, 11:34:01 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on April 22, 2019, 11:24:35 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on April 22, 2019, 09:58:26 AM
If a weird asteroid passes by, the trucks with a mind of their own are going to be very disappointed circling that station.
What movie is this? Been wondering for years, its the movie where all the machines are alive & try to kill people. I haven't seen this movie in years.


iPhone

Maximum Overdrive.  It's a horror comedy that was written and directed by Stephen King.  It's supposed to be over the top campy and succeeds in the best way.
Thats it, weren't there multiple movies of this? & thank you for telling me. It definitely is a good movie.


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Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: mrsman on April 24, 2019, 11:41:20 AM
I like the general idea as reduced labor costs would mean that more of these gas stations will be available, particularly in rural areas.  Increased competition and fewer places with gasoline deserts where you may run out of gas.

But I worry about the issue of unmanned stations.  While rare, fires can occur and it would be nice if there was somebody there who could operate a shutoff switch.  If this issue can be addressed without an employee, then I'm all for it.

I don't consider lack of cash a problem.  The gasoline complanies could create as you go debit cards, similar to what they used to have at university copy machines, buy a card for 25 cents and then refill it with cash in special machines to pay for your copies.  Of course, the vast majority of people have regular credit and debit cards or pay by phone anyways.
Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 24, 2019, 11:56:43 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on April 23, 2019, 10:57:23 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 22, 2019, 11:34:01 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on April 22, 2019, 11:24:35 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on April 22, 2019, 09:58:26 AM
If a weird asteroid passes by, the trucks with a mind of their own are going to be very disappointed circling that station.
What movie is this? Been wondering for years, its the movie where all the machines are alive & try to kill people. I haven't seen this movie in years.


iPhone

Maximum Overdrive.  It's a horror comedy that was written and directed by Stephen King.  It's supposed to be over the top campy and succeeds in the best way.
Thats it, weren't there multiple movies of this? & thank you for telling me. It definitely is a good movie.


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It was a stand alone story, it would be difficult to do a direct sequel IMO. 
Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: Brandon on April 24, 2019, 01:14:48 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 24, 2019, 11:56:43 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on April 23, 2019, 10:57:23 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 22, 2019, 11:34:01 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on April 22, 2019, 11:24:35 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on April 22, 2019, 09:58:26 AM
If a weird asteroid passes by, the trucks with a mind of their own are going to be very disappointed circling that station.
What movie is this? Been wondering for years, its the movie where all the machines are alive & try to kill people. I haven't seen this movie in years.


iPhone

Maximum Overdrive.  It's a horror comedy that was written and directed by Stephen King.  It's supposed to be over the top campy and succeeds in the best way.
Thats it, weren't there multiple movies of this? & thank you for telling me. It definitely is a good movie.

It was a stand alone story, it would be difficult to do a direct sequel IMO. 

King also admitted to being rather "coked out" while making the film.
Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 24, 2019, 01:18:39 PM
Quote from: Brandon on April 24, 2019, 01:14:48 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 24, 2019, 11:56:43 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on April 23, 2019, 10:57:23 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 22, 2019, 11:34:01 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on April 22, 2019, 11:24:35 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on April 22, 2019, 09:58:26 AM
If a weird asteroid passes by, the trucks with a mind of their own are going to be very disappointed circling that station.
What movie is this? Been wondering for years, its the movie where all the machines are alive & try to kill people. I haven't seen this movie in years.


iPhone

Maximum Overdrive.  It's a horror comedy that was written and directed by Stephen King.  It's supposed to be over the top campy and succeeds in the best way.
Thats it, weren't there multiple movies of this? & thank you for telling me. It definitely is a good movie.

It was a stand alone story, it would be difficult to do a direct sequel IMO. 

King also admitted to being rather "coked out" while making the film.

He looked coked out in the commercials for the movie.  His eyes basically were bugging out.  Apparently most of his best stories were written when he was either drunk or high. 
Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: kphoger on April 24, 2019, 04:28:07 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on April 23, 2019, 10:00:02 PM

Quote from: kphoger on April 22, 2019, 02:31:37 PM

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 22, 2019, 12:19:28 AM
Stations like that are somewhat common in low population states like Nevada. 

This.

I do remember Nevada specifically, as my parents tried desperately on a family vacation to find a gas station they could actually pay cash at:  all the ones we kept finding had no attendant on duty, and we were running low on gas.

Dont end the story there! Did you guys find a gas station or did you have Triple A

We found a gas station.  Very anticlimactic.
Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: abefroman329 on April 24, 2019, 09:18:30 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 24, 2019, 01:18:39 PM
Quote from: Brandon on April 24, 2019, 01:14:48 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 24, 2019, 11:56:43 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on April 23, 2019, 10:57:23 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 22, 2019, 11:34:01 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on April 22, 2019, 11:24:35 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on April 22, 2019, 09:58:26 AM
If a weird asteroid passes by, the trucks with a mind of their own are going to be very disappointed circling that station.
What movie is this? Been wondering for years, its the movie where all the machines are alive & try to kill people. I haven't seen this movie in years.


iPhone

Maximum Overdrive.  It's a horror comedy that was written and directed by Stephen King.  It's supposed to be over the top campy and succeeds in the best way.
Thats it, weren't there multiple movies of this? & thank you for telling me. It definitely is a good movie.

It was a stand alone story, it would be difficult to do a direct sequel IMO. 

King also admitted to being rather "coked out" while making the film.

He looked coked out in the commercials for the movie.  His eyes basically were bugging out.  Apparently most of his best stories were written when he was either drunk or high.
Tommyknockers in particular is pretty explicitly about cocaine.
Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: Tonytone on April 24, 2019, 09:19:57 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on April 22, 2019, 09:29:19 AM
Valero?  More like "No-One-Thereo."
Paul


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Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: Tonytone on April 24, 2019, 09:21:06 PM
Quote from: Brandon on April 24, 2019, 01:14:48 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 24, 2019, 11:56:43 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on April 23, 2019, 10:57:23 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 22, 2019, 11:34:01 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on April 22, 2019, 11:24:35 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on April 22, 2019, 09:58:26 AM
If a weird asteroid passes by, the trucks with a mind of their own are going to be very disappointed circling that station.
What movie is this? Been wondering for years, its the movie where all the machines are alive & try to kill people. I haven't seen this movie in years.


iPhone

Maximum Overdrive.  It's a horror comedy that was written and directed by Stephen King.  It's supposed to be over the top campy and succeeds in the best way.
Thats it, weren't there multiple movies of this? & thank you for telling me. It definitely is a good movie.

It was a stand alone story, it would be difficult to do a direct sequel IMO. 

King also admitted to being rather "coked out" while making the film.
I think anyone makes their best work or worst work high or drunk.


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Title: Re: Valero Station: Gravel Surface, No Store or Attendant
Post by: Tonytone on April 24, 2019, 09:25:50 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 24, 2019, 04:28:07 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on April 23, 2019, 10:00:02 PM

Quote from: kphoger on April 22, 2019, 02:31:37 PM

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 22, 2019, 12:19:28 AM
Stations like that are somewhat common in low population states like Nevada. 

This.

I do remember Nevada specifically, as my parents tried desperately on a family vacation to find a gas station they could actually pay cash at:  all the ones we kept finding had no attendant on duty, and we were running low on gas.

Dont end the story there! Did you guys find a gas station or did you have Triple A

We found a gas station.  Very anticlimactic.
Well thats good, I can imagine breaking down in the rural will not be fun.


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