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Title: Illinois Capital Build 2019
Post by: ilpt4u on May 17, 2019, 06:16:07 PM
*EDIT* Updated thread title, since the Legislature passed the bill and the Governor is fully expected to sign

https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics/ct-met-ritzker-illinois-capital-plan-20190517-story.html#nt=oft12aH-2gp2

Still in progress, but the Tribune story does highlight that the Des Plaines River Bridges and I-80 in Will County account for $1.1 Billion of the $41.5 Billion program in its current Draft form

https://thesouthern.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/illinois-lawmakers-considering-every-revenue-option-for-infrastructure-plan-by/article_30604f9b-3c52-5499-b693-6a20aadf3e09.html#tracking-source=home-the-latest

A little different take on it on Southern IL at this point, but this report emphasizes bipartisanship in general support to raise fuel taxes and increase Infrastructure spending. Also highlighted is an annual cost of $18.3 Billion on IL Residents for vehicle damage, crashes, and congestion from rough, old, crumbling roads

https://thesouthern.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/gov-pritzker-outlines-draft-billion-rebuild-illinois-capital-plan/article_de942a10-1fff-59ab-ac9c-1af429339f9b.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1

More highlights from The Southern Illinoisan: $135 Million to reconstruct the Southern I-55/I-72 Interchange in Springfield...that needs to be expanded and do both the Northern and Southern and widen between!
Title: Re: Illinois Draft Capital Build
Post by: Revive 755 on May 17, 2019, 10:35:45 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on May 17, 2019, 06:16:07 PM
More highlights from The Southern Illinoisan: $135 Million to reconstruct the Southern I-55/I-72 Interchange in Springfield...that needs to be expanded and do both the Northern and Southern and widen between!

The north I-55/I-72 interchange should be a higher priority than the south one.  At least at the south one there is not a mainline interstate taking a loop ramp.
Title: Re: Illinois Draft Capital Build
Post by: sparker on May 18, 2019, 12:06:18 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on May 17, 2019, 10:35:45 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on May 17, 2019, 06:16:07 PM
More highlights from The Southern Illinoisan: $135 Million to reconstruct the Southern I-55/I-72 Interchange in Springfield...that needs to be expanded and do both the Northern and Southern and widen between!

The north I-55/I-72 interchange should be a higher priority than the south one.  At least at the south one there is not a mainline interstate taking a loop ramp.

That certainly is an understatement!  ROW preservation for the expansion of the north interchange should have been undertaken already -- at least after I-72's western extension some 25-30 years ago!  But the original section of I-72 seems always to have been an "afterthought", given its inclusion in the '68 additions as -- for all intents & purposes -- either Everett Dirksen's retirement present to his hometown (Decatur) or as a handout to ADM!  The persistence of cloverleaves at either end (although there apparently is an upgrade of the I-57 terminus in the works) attests to I-72's secondary consideration in the prioritization department.  Now -- it's easy to see that a NB 55>WB 72 flyover would certainly be a welcome addition to the south Springfield interchange -- but the more severe substandard feature re route continuity needs to be addressed prior to a secondary movement.  If there's going to be funding available, may as well use it where it's most obviously needed!     
Title: Re: Illinois Draft Capital Build
Post by: edwaleni on May 18, 2019, 05:43:27 PM
Part of the revenue plan is a up front $1000 vehicle tax on electrics.

Most people accept that electrics need to contribute to the roads, but an up front $1000 is considered a bit regressive and will kill the market.

Other plans to recover revenue from electrics were found to be more expensive to implement than the one time fee.

Proposal to have all chargers (including home ones) registered with their local utility and metered for road taxes was also considered.

The electric utility lobby was not for that at all as it pushes a regulatory requirement for highways into their space.

So essentially Illinois is going to cut into the federal tax rebate for electrics and take back $1000 for its self for highways.

If UPS and Walmart jump on electric trucks as fast as many think, Illinois will probably propose a larger cut up front for them since they by design are heavier.
Title: Re: Illinois Draft Capital Build
Post by: I-39 on May 18, 2019, 07:00:05 PM
I wonder if there will be anything in here for the I-57/74 interchange rebuild and the I-39/US 20 project?

Title: Re: Illinois Draft Capital Build
Post by: ilpt4u on May 18, 2019, 07:39:04 PM
I read that the Electric Vehicle Annual Registration is only raised to $250 in this latest draft. Gas tax raised to 34 cents/gallon, I believe, as well

The $1000 EV Registration fee was an earlier proposal
Title: Re: Illinois Draft Capital Build
Post by: 3467 on May 18, 2019, 09:55:17 PM
That's what I have heard too. The EV would be 51 above the new car registration. I have seen in shows like Illinois lawmakers that even this is not final. The republicans seriously  want to deal on this and sports betting so there is not much risk of going overtime. The Gov and democrats probably want to get the Constitutional Amendment and nudge and pot done before the deadline
The Govs budget outline only mentioned a few major projects. 80 47 72 and 67.
Title: Re: Illinois Draft Capital Build
Post by: ilpt4u on May 18, 2019, 10:02:35 PM
There was a mention of US 40 in Effingham as well
Title: Re: Illinois Draft Capital Build
Post by: adt1982 on May 19, 2019, 08:38:25 AM
Quote from: ilpt4u on May 18, 2019, 10:02:35 PM
There was a mention of US 40 in Effingham as well

...US 40/Illinois 33/Fayette Avenue: $61.2 million for US 40/Illinois 33/Fayette Avenue in Effingham County. This segment of roadway in Effingham carries 14,000 vehicles daily with nearly 9 percent being truck traffic...
Title: Re: Illinois Draft Capital Build
Post by: 3467 on May 19, 2019, 09:38:58 AM
Someone suggested it was a joke on the so called eastern bloc of legislators that regularly rants and races about Chicago and the Effingham county board that regularly passed anti Chicago resolutions. After the project is completed there would be a sign that says paid for primarily by the taxpayers of Cook County.
Title: Re: Illinois Draft Capital Build
Post by: skluth on May 23, 2019, 06:30:23 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on May 17, 2019, 10:35:45 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on May 17, 2019, 06:16:07 PM
More highlights from The Southern Illinoisan: $135 Million to reconstruct the Southern I-55/I-72 Interchange in Springfield...that needs to be expanded and do both the Northern and Southern and widen between!

The north I-55/I-72 interchange should be a higher priority than the south one.  At least at the south one there is not a mainline interstate taking a loop ramp.

I agree the north interchange needs work to eliminate the cloverleaf ramps, at least the I-72 westbound cloverleaf. However, the entire I-55/72 concurrency has needed six lanes since at least the late 80's.  (I moved to STL then. Don't have a good idea of when traffic originally got bad there.) It could be that interchange improvements on all the east side interchanges will happen when IDOT finally gets around to making it six lanes.
Title: Re: Illinois Draft Capital Build
Post by: inkyatari on May 30, 2019, 04:38:04 PM
Quote from: 3467 on May 18, 2019, 09:55:17 PM

The Govs budget outline only mentioned a few major projects. 80 47 72 and 67.

47?
Title: Re: Illinois Draft Capital Build
Post by: Lyon Wonder on May 30, 2019, 04:48:37 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on May 30, 2019, 04:38:04 PM
Quote from: 3467 on May 18, 2019, 09:55:17 PM

The Govs budget outline only mentioned a few major projects. 80 47 72 and 67.

47?

IL state route 47.
Title: Re: Illinois Draft Capital Build
Post by: inkyatari on May 31, 2019, 08:44:16 AM
Quote from: Lyon Wonder on May 30, 2019, 04:48:37 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on May 30, 2019, 04:38:04 PM
Quote from: 3467 on May 18, 2019, 09:55:17 PM

The Govs budget outline only mentioned a few major projects. 80 47 72 and 67.

47?

IL state route 47.

Right, but which project? Widening between Caton Farm and Yorkville, or the I-88 interchange project? Something else?
Title: Re: Illinois Draft Capital Build
Post by: ChiMilNet on May 31, 2019, 09:15:16 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on May 31, 2019, 08:44:16 AM
Quote from: Lyon Wonder on May 30, 2019, 04:48:37 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on May 30, 2019, 04:38:04 PM
Quote from: 3467 on May 18, 2019, 09:55:17 PM

The Govs budget outline only mentioned a few major projects. 80 47 72 and 67.

47?

IL state route 47.

Right, but which project? Widening between Caton Farm and Yorkville, or the I-88 interchange project? Something else?

Does anyone have a full list of the projects?
Title: Re: Illinois Draft Capital Build
Post by: ilpt4u on May 31, 2019, 10:29:49 AM
Today is the last day of the Spring Legislative Session...If this moves beyond Draft into Passed, we should have a full list very shortly
Title: Re: Illinois Draft Capital Build
Post by: 3467 on May 31, 2019, 05:01:45 PM
Session extended Capital Bill Gambling and Budget still left. Pot legal constitutional amendment on graduated tax plus rates and a property tax task force done.
Title: Re: Illinois Draft Capital Build
Post by: ilpt4u on May 31, 2019, 06:19:55 PM
Quote from: 3467 on May 31, 2019, 05:01:45 PM
Session extended Capital Bill Gambling and Budget still left. Pot legal constitutional amendment on graduated tax plus rates and a property tax task force done.
Probably the 3 issues that include the most haggling...But I am confident they will get done
Title: Re: Illinois Draft Capital Build
Post by: Brandon on May 31, 2019, 06:47:44 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on May 31, 2019, 06:19:55 PM
Quote from: 3467 on May 31, 2019, 05:01:45 PM
Session extended Capital Bill Gambling and Budget still left. Pot legal constitutional amendment on graduated tax plus rates and a property tax task force done.
Probably the 3 issues that include the most haggling...But I am confident they will get done

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Title: Re: Illinois Draft Capital Build
Post by: 3467 on June 01, 2019, 12:52:23 PM
The Senate left town and said they had bipartisan agreement to agree to whatever the house decided on the remains issues. They have a number for highways but no project breakouts yet. Since this is bipartisan it looks like al! The old formulas will hold and no projects are getting politically targeted.
Title: Re: Illinois Draft Capital Build
Post by: Crash_It on June 01, 2019, 12:59:24 PM
Quote from: Brandon on May 31, 2019, 06:47:44 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on May 31, 2019, 06:19:55 PM
Quote from: 3467 on May 31, 2019, 05:01:45 PM
Session extended Capital Bill Gambling and Budget still left. Pot legal constitutional amendment on graduated tax plus rates and a property tax task force done.
Probably the 3 issues that include the most haggling...But I am confident they will get done

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Well considering that they quickly got the pot bill passed and the new tax code, this will roll through just as easily.
Title: Re: Illinois Draft Capital Build
Post by: 3467 on June 01, 2019, 11:14:23 PM
It did . Gas tax up but has sales tax gone. 41 billion road and transit. No details yet of projects.
Title: Re: Illinois Draft Capital Build
Post by: Brandon on June 02, 2019, 10:35:58 AM
Quote from: Crash_It on June 01, 2019, 12:59:24 PM
Quote from: Brandon on May 31, 2019, 06:47:44 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on May 31, 2019, 06:19:55 PM
Quote from: 3467 on May 31, 2019, 05:01:45 PM
Session extended Capital Bill Gambling and Budget still left. Pot legal constitutional amendment on graduated tax plus rates and a property tax task force done.
Probably the 3 issues that include the most haggling...But I am confident they will get done

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Well considering that they quickly got the pot bill passed and the new tax code, this will roll through just as easily.

The twits downstate waited until overtime, and then they sprung the bill when few were looking (typical of Darth Mike).
Title: Re: Illinois Draft Capital Build
Post by: 3467 on June 03, 2019, 02:28:21 PM
capitolfax.com has the project list for District 7 under the story Freeloading it ....He is going to post them all later.New construction of 60 million is all going to Effingham None for 50 or 51.
Title: Re: Illinois Draft Capital Build
Post by: I-39 on June 04, 2019, 06:20:50 AM
Does the capital bill include anything for the reconstruction of the I-57/74 interchange in Champaign?
Title: Re: Illinois Draft Capital Build
Post by: 3467 on June 04, 2019, 08:52:56 AM
I think it's been mentioned but all that is out is that Dist 7 sheet.
Title: Re: Illinois Capital Build 2019
Post by: Rick Powell on October 21, 2019, 01:55:19 PM
Quote from: 3467 on June 04, 2019, 08:52:56 AM
I think it's been mentioned but all that is out is that Dist 7 sheet.

See Illinois notes. Full MYP is now out.
Title: Re: Illinois Capital Build 2019
Post by: 3467 on October 21, 2019, 02:31:10 PM
http://www.idot.illinois.gov/transportation-system/transportation-management/transportation-improvement-programs-/multi-modal-transportation-improvement-program/index

Title: Re: Illinois Capital Build 2019
Post by: Lyon Wonder on August 31, 2020, 07:26:11 PM
Illinois road construction projects are now delayed and postponed since the state has a shortfall in gas tax revenues thanks to covid and the slow economy.

https://wlds.com/idot-road-projects-getting-postponed-due-to-gas-tax-revenue-decline/
Title: Re: Illinois Capital Build 2019
Post by: skluth on August 31, 2020, 07:40:13 PM
Quote from: Lyon Wonder on August 31, 2020, 07:26:11 PM
Illinois road construction projects are now delayed and postponed since the state has a shortfall in gas tax revenues thanks to covid and the slow economy.

https://wlds.com/idot-road-projects-getting-postponed-due-to-gas-tax-revenue-decline/

I'm sure we'll see more delays in the next few months
Title: Re: Illinois Capital Build 2019
Post by: 3467 on August 31, 2020, 08:40:54 PM
If remote work continues and it may then it may change a lot. About 600000 people worked in downtown One story said it's only 80000 now. Mass transit is empty and there is no morning rush and a modest afternoon. That might be popping in for the occasional in person update. Anyway it's hard to tell because there are no cameras downtown. There are in New York and it looks empty.
Title: Re: Illinois Capital Build 2019
Post by: ET21 on August 31, 2020, 09:56:27 PM
There's a rush hour now in the morning and afternoon but still nothing like pre-Covid. During the height of Covid in March/April it took me only 30 minutes from Des Plaines to the West Loop and vice versa. Now its back up to about an hour however traffic does not last long. Instead of maybe your usual 3-7pm height, its maybe 4-6pm now. Morning rush is maybe 7-9am instead of 6-10am
Title: Re: Illinois Capital Build 2019
Post by: 3467 on August 31, 2020, 10:56:29 PM
Especially with Metra empty. I notice suburb to suburb light on tollways  and arterials. Combo of shop and work remote? Most factory and warehouse jobs are along the tollways  but those all opened in Phase 3 so that's why I assume light traffic is due to office and discretionary shopping changes.
Title: Re: Illinois Capital Build 2019
Post by: ET21 on September 01, 2020, 07:33:12 PM
Oh yeah the tollway is dead compared to a regular rush hour. Maybe some backups with the construction on 294 but even 355 is wide open
Title: Re: Illinois Capital Build 2019
Post by: edwaleni on September 03, 2020, 08:38:28 AM
Until the vaccine is widely available, I wouldn't expect any upticks in commuter traffic until after the holidays.
Title: Re: Illinois Capital Build 2019
Post by: 3467 on September 05, 2020, 11:24:51 AM
You might find an Aug 31 article by David Roeder in the Sun Times of interest.He says only 10% of workers are back about 60000. But remote work looks here to stay to a degree though many execs want a downtown presence.