Many states such as NJ and FL have US Highways that are within their state only and the latter has road too that are even shorter than most of their state highways as well.
NJ has both US 46 and 130 with US 206 being iffy as part of that road (though less than a mile) is in PA making it a two state road designation. Florida has both US 92 and its child US 192.
Colorado has its own US 350 as well, but Texas has many such as US 57 and 69 with US 175 and some others. I have not been able to come up with the correct count, but I will say at this time that Texas wins in this category as I am guessing that other states that have one state US routes mostly have at least one or two.
Any other states that have more than Texas or is the Lone Star State king in one state US routes?
US 117, 158, and 264 are all located entirely within North Carolina. Of those, only US 158 is longer than AASHTO's 300-mile recommendation.
US 69 isn't intrastate, did you mean 96 I assume?
Virginia has US-58, Alt. US-58, US-211 and US-360.
Florida used to have a couple more intrastate US Routes. US 94 and US 541 immediately come to mind. US 441 and US 98 used to be exclusively Florida US Routes.
Quote from: Beltway on June 08, 2019, 12:17:53 AM
Virginia has US-58, Alt. US-58, US-211 and US-360.
A tiny bit of US 58 (less than a mile) is in Tennessee.
I have a list of all of them. Texas wins with 57, 96, 175, 181, and 290.
Quote from: US 89 on June 08, 2019, 12:02:49 AM
US 117, 158, and 264 are all located entirely within North Carolina. Of those, only US 158 is longer than AASHTO's 300-mile recommendation.
In fact if AASHTO enforced the "All intrastate US routes less than 483 km long should be eliminated" guideline US 158 would become the only intrastate US route.
Quote from: oscar on June 08, 2019, 02:29:53 AM
Quote from: Beltway on June 08, 2019, 12:17:53 AM
Virginia has US-58, Alt. US-58, US-211 and US-360.
A tiny bit of US 58 (less than a mile) is in Tennessee.
Necessitated by the construction of the Cumberland Gap Tunnel, which removed US 25E from Virginia.
Incidentally, extension of US 311 into Virginia eliminated it as a qualifier in North Carolina.
Quote from: 1 on June 08, 2019, 07:05:41 AM
Texas wins with 57, 96, 175, 181, and 290.
That's correct, and note that TX is also the only state with two 2-digit intra-state US routes, which could be considered particularly egregious. On the other hand, TX is a very big state.
NC gets the silver with three intra-states, but as mentioned it had four for almost 80 years, until US 311 was extended in 2012. Three states have two, and six states have one.
Now, for people who have a philosophical problem with intra-state US routes, do you also have a problem with what I call "stealth violators"? These are US routes that escape scrutiny because they do exist in more than one state, but not by much. The prime example, US 206, has been mentioned: its length in PA is less than a half-mile.
If you have a problem with that type of thing, then you might regard South Carolina with the stink eye, because it is the king of stealth violators. There are five US routes that exist only in SC, except for segments of 25 miles or less that poke into adjoining states.
Quote from: usends on June 08, 2019, 06:11:23 PM
Quote from: 1 on June 08, 2019, 07:05:41 AM
Texas wins with 57, 96, 175, 181, and 290.
That's correct, and note that TX is also the only state with two 2-digit intra-state US routes, which could be considered particularly egregious. On the other hand, TX is a very big state.
NC gets the silver with three intra-states, but as mentioned it had four for almost 80 years, until US 311 was extended in 2012. Three states have two, and six states have one.
Even after the correction on US-58, Virginia has three -- Alt. US-58, US-211 and US-360.
On the sideline is US 199. It is the last remaining route that branched off as an US x99 which is still a US route.
US 730. At least US 30 is still around to blame...LOL! For such a BIG number it is a very small route of around 42 miles running in NE Oregon and SE Washington with a beautiful view of the Columbia River.
Oregon's last remaining intrastate US route is 197, which connects Madras to The Dalles. It is an easy and scenic clinch! We used to have US 126, which has an interesting history. Part used to be US 28, which no longer is an active number, part had to wait to be built so Eugene and Florence would have a direct connection )1957) and then came the changing of the guard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Route_126
Rick
197 enters WA.
Quote from: 1 on June 08, 2019, 08:15:52 PM
197 enters WA.
It does not look like it does in the atlas. Are you saying US 197 terminates at SR 14 in WA?
Rick
Quote from: nexus73 on June 09, 2019, 08:50:09 AM
Quote from: 1 on June 08, 2019, 08:15:52 PM
197 enters WA.
It does not look like it does in the atlas. Are you saying US 197 terminates at SR 14 in WA?
Rick
Yes.
Quote from: 1 on June 09, 2019, 09:04:42 AM
Quote from: nexus73 on June 09, 2019, 08:50:09 AM
Quote from: 1 on June 08, 2019, 08:15:52 PM
197 enters WA.
It does not look like it does in the atlas. Are you saying US 197 terminates at SR 14 in WA?
Rick
Yes.
Isn't that strange? One would think a "natural" terminus would be US 30 on the south side of the Columbia River instead of the north side on a state route. Thanks for letting me know!
Rick
Quote from: nexus73 on June 09, 2019, 08:50:09 AM
Quote from: 1 on June 08, 2019, 08:15:52 PM
197 enters WA.
It does not look like it does in the atlas. Are you saying US 197 terminates at SR 14 in WA?
Rick
Yes that is US-197's northern terminus.
Quote from: nexus73 on June 09, 2019, 11:46:35 AM
Quote from: 1 on June 09, 2019, 09:04:42 AM
Quote from: nexus73 on June 09, 2019, 08:50:09 AM
Quote from: 1 on June 08, 2019, 08:15:52 PM
197 enters WA.
It does not look like it does in the atlas. Are you saying US 197 terminates at SR 14 in WA?
Rick
Yes.
Isn't that strange? One would think a "natural" terminus would be US 30 on the south side of the Columbia River instead of the north side on a state route. Thanks for letting me know!
Rick
I'm guessing that the reason US-197 extends into Washington is so that it can get it's second state since it's well under 300 miles long. Notice though how Washington ends it at the first possible chance it gets.
I doubt that. Probably just an old spur off of US-97 that was truncated or re-routed over time.
Not on topic or anything but I noticed as well how at US-197's northern terminus I-82 is mentioned, I-82 is almost 100 miles away the sign says JCT I-82 you'd think it'd be in somewhat close proximity of this interchange. https://www.google.com/maps/@45.6481847,-121.155937,3a,15.3y,26.28h,92.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sslzzL--Nq2073uaBIFL2-w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
So I'm going to be driving for almost 100 miles wondering when the hell I'm going to reach I-82 lol.
Quote from: Rothman on June 09, 2019, 01:09:25 PM
I doubt that. Probably just an old spur off of US-97 that was truncated or re-routed over time.
After doing a little research on it, US-197 use to turn east to end at US-97 in Maryhill. It was scaled back to it's current terminus in 1979 but AASHTO still considered it part of US-197 until 2006. So it was a longer route in Washington at one time.
Quote from: nexus73 on June 08, 2019, 07:45:52 PM
On the sideline is US 199. It is the last remaining route that branched off as an US x99 which is still a US route.
US 730. At least US 30 is still around to blame...LOL! For such a BIG number it is a very small route of around 42 miles running in NE Oregon and SE Washington with a beautiful view of the Columbia River.
Oregon's last remaining intrastate US route is 197, which connects Madras to The Dalles. It is an easy and scenic clinch! We used to have US 126, which has an interesting history. Part used to be US 28, which no longer is an active number, part had to wait to be built so Eugene and Florence would have a direct connection )1957) and then came the changing of the guard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Route_126
Rick
It has that big of a number because it's on the west coast. The first digit of the spurs increased from north to south and east to west along the parent. So US-730 being on the west coast received a higher number.
Quote from: Beltway on June 08, 2019, 06:17:37 PM
Even after the correction on US-58, Virginia has three -- Alt. US-58, US-211 and US-360.
If you're going to include bannered routes, wouldn't you also count Alt. US 15 and Alt. US 301? But that's a huge can o'worms, and personally I don't think of bannered routes as standalone US routes.
Quote from: usends on June 09, 2019, 02:54:04 PM
Quote from: Beltway on June 08, 2019, 06:17:37 PM
Even after the correction on US-58, Virginia has three -- Alt. US-58, US-211 and US-360.
If you're going to include bannered routes, wouldn't you also count Alt. US 15 and Alt. US 301? But that's a huge can o'worms, and personally I don't think of bannered routes as standalone US routes.
There are also alternates for 11 and 460 in Roanoke, as well as what's signed as US 220A.
Not to mention an iteration of Alternate US 41 between Madisonville and Henderson, Ky. Or signed US 74A, US 321A and US 220A in North Carolina. Or the directionally-suffixed 45E and W in Tennessee, 49E and W in Mississippi, or 70N and S in Tennessee.
Quote from: Flint1979 on June 09, 2019, 01:19:16 PM
Quote from: Rothman on June 09, 2019, 01:09:25 PM
I doubt that. Probably just an old spur off of US-97 that was truncated or re-routed over time.
After doing a little research on it, US-197 use to turn east to end at US-97 in Maryhill. It was scaled back to it's current terminus in 1979 but AASHTO still considered it part of US-197 until 2006. So it was a longer route in Washington at one time.
Originally, when WA 14 was US 830, both routes multiplexed east to end at US 97 in Maryhill; it's likely that section of US 197 existed because for a long time US 97 crossed the Columbia River on a ferry rather than a bridge (which was constructed in the early '60's); those who either feared or didn't want to wait for the ferry could detour via US 197. Of course, when WA did its renumbering and US 830 was eliminated, US 197 remained on WA 14 for a while until WDOT deemed it superfluous (folks wanting to access The Dalles from US 97 could more easily do so on I-84 across the river). I first passed through the us 197/WA 14 intersection back in 1987 -- and indeed 197 had an "END" shield assembly at that location.
Quote from: hbelkins on June 09, 2019, 04:29:46 PM
Quote from: usends on June 09, 2019, 02:54:04 PM
Quote from: Beltway on June 08, 2019, 06:17:37 PM
Even after the correction on US-58, Virginia has three -- Alt. US-58, US-211 and US-360.
If you're going to include bannered routes, wouldn't you also count Alt. US 15 and Alt. US 301? But that's a huge can o'worms, and personally I don't think of bannered routes as standalone US routes.
There are also alternates for 11 and 460 in Roanoke, as well as what's signed as US 220A.
Not to mention an iteration of Alternate US 41 between Madisonville and Henderson, Ky. Or signed US 74A, US 321A and US 220A in North Carolina. Or the directionally-suffixed 45E and W in Tennessee, 49E and W in Mississippi, or 70N and S in Tennessee.
Good question as to how to categorize an Alternate U.S. route.
If it is a major route would it be the equivalent of a 3-digit U.S. route?
In the case of Alt. US-58, it is 87 miles long, and at full buildout will be a 4-lane arterial highway, the only missing links being future bypasses at 3 towns. They could have just as easily designated it as US-458.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on June 08, 2019, 12:06:17 AM
US 69 isn't intrastate, did you mean 96 I assume?
Yes I meant US 96 as I used my iPhone which is small keys.
Quote from: Beltway on June 09, 2019, 08:14:36 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on June 09, 2019, 04:29:46 PM
Quote from: usends on June 09, 2019, 02:54:04 PM
Quote from: Beltway on June 08, 2019, 06:17:37 PM
Even after the correction on US-58, Virginia has three -- Alt. US-58, US-211 and US-360.
If you're going to include bannered routes, wouldn't you also count Alt. US 15 and Alt. US 301? But that's a huge can o'worms, and personally I don't think of bannered routes as standalone US routes.
There are also alternates for 11 and 460 in Roanoke, as well as what's signed as US 220A.
Not to mention an iteration of Alternate US 41 between Madisonville and Henderson, Ky. Or signed US 74A, US 321A and US 220A in North Carolina. Or the directionally-suffixed 45E and W in Tennessee, 49E and W in Mississippi, or 70N and S in Tennessee.
Good question as to how to categorize an Alternate U.S. route.
If it is a major route would it be the equivalent of a 3-digit U.S. route?
In the case of Alt. US-58, it is 87 miles long, and at full buildout will be a 4-lane arterial highway, the only missing links being future bypasses at 3 towns. They could have just as easily designated it as US-458.
They are branches not primary despite Alt US 58 is longer than US 46 in NJ.
Quote from: usends on June 08, 2019, 06:11:23 PM
Quote from: 1 on June 08, 2019, 07:05:41 AM
Texas wins with 57, 96, 175, 181, and 290.
Now, for people who have a philosophical problem with intra-state US routes, do you also have a problem with what I call "stealth violators"? These are US routes that escape scrutiny because they do exist in more than one state, but not by much. The prime example, US 206, has been mentioned: its length in PA is less than a half-mile.
US223 is a stealth violator because of its pointless duplex with US23 entering Ohio to end at a non-US route.
US 131 is one that is entirely in MI but a very short piece in IN!
That one got me, I thought at one point it extended to US 20, but nope. Until 1980 it was a Michigan-only route, ending abruptly at the Indiana line.
Quote from: roadman65 on June 10, 2019, 10:55:57 PM
US 131 is one that is entirely in MI but a very short piece in IN!
In the case of US-131, it does hit the Indiana Toll Road not long after crossing into IN
Well, with US131 and US223 in Michigan, here's another question: Which state is home to the most US routes that barely extend outside their primary home state? (Let's say, the route spends less than 25 miles outside the primary state to qualify.)
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 15, 2019, 04:37:54 PM
Well, with US131 and US223 in Michigan, here's another question: Which state is home to the most US routes that barely extend outside their primary home state? (Let's say, the route spends less than 25 miles outside the primary state to qualify.)
See the last paragraph in post #10 ;-)
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 15, 2019, 04:37:54 PM
Well, with US131 and US223 in Michigan, here's another question: Which state is home to the most US routes that barely extend outside their primary home state? (Let's say, the route spends less than 25 miles outside the primary state to qualify.)
Under this criteria South Carolina has US 123, US 176, US 178, US 521.
A different question could be which state has had the most short mainline US Route segments (10 miles or less) at any point?
The case for Virginia:
Current– US 11E, US 11W, US 219, US 311
Former– US 25E, US 240, US 321, US 411, US 421, US 511
US 340 in its early days just misses at 11 miles as do brief versions of US 117 and US 158
Quote from: Mapmikey on June 15, 2019, 06:19:05 PMA different question could be which state has had the most short mainline US Route segments (10 miles or less) at any point?
The case for Virginia:
Former– US 411
More precisely, it appears to have been the third and current US 411, which used to run to Bristol. However it may have never entered Virginia. US 58 west of Bristol (which was the first US 411) is way longer than 16 km, and the second US 411 never entered VA.
Quote from: Mapmikey on June 15, 2019, 06:19:05 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 15, 2019, 04:37:54 PM
Which state is home to the most US routes that barely extend outside their primary home state? (Let's say, the route spends less than 25 miles outside the primary state to qualify.)
Under this criteria South Carolina has US 123, US 176, US 178, US 521.
Also US 378.