After today's steaming pile of a game against Army, Jim Harbaugh needs to be fired. He will never take Michigan to the playoff, let alone a National Championship. This year the Wolverines will win three Big 10 teams at best and will likely lose to Michigan State (no big deal, I root for both teams), Ohio State, and probably even Maryland the way they are looking this year. I hope I'm wrong, but still, Harbaugh has to go.
If he hasn't gone by now after losing to Ohio every year, he's never going :(
^^ You mean Ohio State as they don't play against the Bobcats
You're underestimating how good Army is. This is the team that came close to upsetting Oklahoma last year. Each of the past couple years, they've been a close game short of the Top 25.
Quote from: Alps on September 07, 2019, 11:52:45 PM
If he hasn't gone by now after losing to Ohio every year, he's never going :(
This. If he isn't getting fired for that, losing to Army won't be what does him in.
Wasn't Army on a 10 game win streak? I saw the line was like 22 points or something, that seemed way too high even for a home game at Michigan. I'm a Michigan guy also and I agree that Harbaugh hasn't done anywhere close to what has been expected but I think were seriously underestimating Army based off last year.
Quote from: Big John on September 07, 2019, 11:56:27 PM
^^ You mean Ohio State as they don't play against the Bobcats
I said Ohio. I could have said "the shitty community college in central Ohio" for clarity.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 08, 2019, 12:22:11 AM
Wasn't Army on a 10 game win streak? I saw the line was like 22 points or something, that seemed way too high even for a home game at Michigan. I'm a Michigan guy also and I agree that Harbaugh hasn't done anywhere close to what has been expected but I think were seriously underestimating Army based off last year.
Army is always a threat on offense. No one else does the triple threat like they do, so usually they stand a chance against anyone based on that. However, their defense is usually relatively easy to shred by a good team. Michigan's defense is doing just fine after holding Army to just two scores in the game, but their offense is just not clicking yet, and that's the story of the game. They've got a bye week to figure things out before the Big Ten kicks in, so they better start rolling soon.
Quote from: Alps on September 08, 2019, 01:05:02 AM
Quote from: Big John on September 07, 2019, 11:56:27 PM
^^ You mean Ohio State as they don't play against the Bobcats
I said Ohio. I could have said "the shitty community college in central Ohio" for clarity.
I prefer "THE Columbus Suckeyes," who I wouldn't root for if they were playing the Taliban. :)
Why? I love Jim Hairball being at UM. His win/loss records at MSU and OSU are wonderful! :-)
Quote from: Alps on September 08, 2019, 01:05:02 AM
Quote from: Big John on September 07, 2019, 11:56:27 PM
^^ You mean Ohio State as they don't play against the Bobcats
I said Ohio. I could have said "the shitty community college in central Ohio" for clarity.
Hey Jersey Numbnuts. Is there a problem with my school?!?!
Quote from: Big John on September 07, 2019, 11:56:27 PM
^^ You mean Ohio State as they don't play against the Bobcats
Calling tOSU "Ohio" is a popular insult. Much like we call Duke "Dook" or North Carolina "Tar Holes."
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on September 08, 2019, 05:59:02 PM
Quote from: Alps on September 08, 2019, 01:05:02 AM
Quote from: Big John on September 07, 2019, 11:56:27 PM
^^ You mean Ohio State as they don't play against the Bobcats
I said Ohio. I could have said "the shitty community college in central Ohio" for clarity.
Hey Jersey Numbnuts. Is there a problem with my school?!?!
Yeah, it's shitty. :)
Quote from: Alps on September 08, 2019, 07:35:28 PM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on September 08, 2019, 05:59:02 PM
Quote from: Alps on September 08, 2019, 01:05:02 AM
Quote from: Big John on September 07, 2019, 11:56:27 PM
^^ You mean Ohio State as they don't play against the Bobcats
I said Ohio. I could have said "the shitty community college in central Ohio" for clarity.
Hey Jersey Numbnuts. Is there a problem with my school?!?!
Yeah, it's shitty. :)
I mean, if you think you can trademark the most common word in the English language... :-P
Quote from: US 89 on September 08, 2019, 08:40:34 PM
Quote from: Alps on September 08, 2019, 07:35:28 PM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on September 08, 2019, 05:59:02 PM
Quote from: Alps on September 08, 2019, 01:05:02 AM
Quote from: Big John on September 07, 2019, 11:56:27 PM
^^ You mean Ohio State as they don't play against the Bobcats
I said Ohio. I could have said "the shitty community college in central Ohio" for clarity.
Hey Jersey Numbnuts. Is there a problem with my school?!?!
Yeah, it's shitty. :)
I mean, if you think you can trademark the most common word in the English language... :-P
Which is well established terrible California slang.
I really could care less if Michigan wins any game, let alone with this steaming pile of hot garbage in Harbaugh. Michigan will be better off WITHOUT the Harbaughs, period!
Quote from: Alps on September 07, 2019, 11:52:45 PM
If he hasn't gone by now after losing to Ohio every year, he's never going :(
I'm afraid you're probably right.
I seem to recall everyone bitched during the Lloyd Carr era also...really pretty much with every coach. One of the things about the Michigan fan base (which I'm a part of) is how much bitching and complaining goes on every year related to the football team. Yeah the expectations are higher are Michigan, but everyone always seems to wonder why it is one of the most hated fan bases out there...this is why. It's not like UofM even lost to Army, it's still potentially a long season (granted they need to improve greatly). It could be worse, Rich Rodriguez could still be around.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 09, 2019, 09:43:07 PM
I seem to recall everyone bitched during the Lloyd Carr era also...really pretty much with every coach. One of the things about the Michigan fan base (which I'm a part of) is how much bitching and complaining goes on every year related to the football team. Yeah the expectations are higher are Michigan, but everyone always seems to wonder why it is one of the most hated fan bases out there...this is why. It's not like UofM even lost to Army, it's still potentially a long season (granted they need to improve greatly). It could be worse, Rich Rodriguez could still be around.
The bitching started after Alps favorite school won a National Championship in 2002 (year after I graduated), and has been consistent after Bo passed away.
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on September 09, 2019, 09:51:08 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 09, 2019, 09:43:07 PM
I seem to recall everyone bitched during the Lloyd Carr era also...really pretty much with every coach. One of the things about the Michigan fan base (which I'm a part of) is how much bitching and complaining goes on every year related to the football team. Yeah the expectations are higher are Michigan, but everyone always seems to wonder why it is one of the most hated fan bases out there...this is why. It's not like UofM even lost to Army, it's still potentially a long season (granted they need to improve greatly). It could be worse, Rich Rodriguez could still be around.
The bitching started after Alps favorite school won a National Championship in 2002 (year after I graduated), and has been consistent after Bo passed away.
No it just had a wider social media platform. People complained all the time even about abo Schembechler because he didn't win a National Championship. Even in the Appalachian State year the Michigan fans were calling for Lloyd Carr's head...it turned out to be a pretty solid year after that loss.
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Quote from: ce929wax on September 07, 2019, 11:35:07 PM
After today's steaming pile of a game against Army, Jim Harbaugh needs to be fired. He will never take Michigan to the playoff, let alone a National Championship. This year the Wolverines will win three Big 10 teams at best and will likely lose to Michigan State (no big deal, I root for both teams), Ohio State, and probably even Maryland the way they are looking this year. I hope I'm wrong, but still, Harbaugh has to go.
As a Notre Dame and MSU alum, I hope Harbaugh is coaching Michigan for a very long time.
IMHO,
- It is cute that people still think actual relevant football is played north of the Mason-Dixon Line and Ohio River; or west of the Rockies.
- Personally, I don't care for the "community college" smack talk relative to ANY college rivalry. With a handful of exceptions (Boise State being the chief) EVERY school in Division I-A (AKA the FBS) is a major Master's or more often Doctoral level institution, with high admission standards. Both Ohio State, and Michigan, are AAU (the highest level) members. Yes, it can be all in fun, but smacking down a college you never attended on behalf of another college you never attended, can come off a being a rube. Most actual alumni don't do that.
- I find the whole Ohio, Ohio State, thing tiresome. As I do the "The" thing. Most every school is "The". Penn State is legally "The Pennsylvania State University". Akron is "The University of Akron". VIrginia Tech is "The Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University". Even Ohio U is legally "The Ohio University". OSU: you are not special, and you look silly. Michigan: Ohio and Ohio State are two different colleges, you look silly.
- Demographics is destiny. Which brings me back to point number one.
Quote from: SP Cook on September 10, 2019, 09:36:12 AM
IMHO,
- It is cute that people still think actual relevant football is played north of the Mason-Dixon Line and Ohio River; or west of the Rockies.
- Personally, I don't care for the "community college" smack talk relative to ANY college rivalry. With a handful of exceptions (Boise State being the chief) EVERY school in Division I-A (AKA the FBS) is a major Master's or more often Doctoral level institution, with high admission standards. Both Ohio State, and Michigan, are AAU (the highest level) members. Yes, it can be all in fun, but smacking down a college you never attended on behalf of another college you never attended, can come off a being a rube. Most actual alumni don't do that.
- I find the whole Ohio, Ohio State, thing tiresome. As I do the "The" thing. Most every school is "The". Penn State is legally "The Pennsylvania State University". Akron is "The University of Akron". VIrginia Tech is "The Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University". Even Ohio U is legally "The Ohio University". OSU: you are not special, and you look silly. Michigan: Ohio and Ohio State are two different colleges, you look silly.
- Demographics is destiny. Which brings me back to point number one.
The biggest issue pretty much the entire Big Ten and really any school up north is all the talent is moving away. The bigger Big Ten schools get a lot of their recruits from sun belt regions but they are fighting a losing battle to conferences in those regions. This isn't a new problem it's just been getting more pronounced since the 1980s. Places like Michigan, Ohio and Indiana are nowhere near as attractive to most college kids with options over warmer climates. The population is shifting away from what many consider more traditional college sports locales.
Quote from: NE2 on September 10, 2019, 06:56:38 AM
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That is just over the top. You are an idiot.
Quote from: SP Cook on September 10, 2019, 09:36:12 AM
IMHO,
- It is cute that people still think actual relevant football is played north of the Mason-Dixon Line and Ohio River; or west of the Rockies.
Other than the semi-professional team called "Alabama", there's not much south of the Ohio River there.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 10, 2019, 11:49:07 AM
The biggest issue pretty much the entire Big Ten and really any school up north is all the talent is moving away. The bigger Big Ten schools get a lot of their recruits from sun belt regions but they are fighting a losing battle to conferences in those regions. This isn't a new problem it's just been getting more pronounced since the 1980s. Places like Michigan, Ohio and Indiana are nowhere near as attractive to most college kids with options over warmer climates. The population is shifting away from what many consider more traditional college sports locales.
In the meantime, UK is getting back to some semblance of competitiveness by recruiting the Rust Belt hard, particularly Stoops' NE Ohio home turf. I'm guessing continued Rust Belt recruiting is why UK has agreed to play Toledo at Toledo twice in the next few years.
Quote from: Brandon on September 10, 2019, 02:02:57 PM
Quote from: SP Cook on September 10, 2019, 09:36:12 AM
IMHO,
- It is cute that people still think actual relevant football is played north of the Mason-Dixon Line and Ohio River; or west of the Rockies.
Other than the semi-professional team called "Alabama", there's not much south of the Ohio River there.
There's a team in South Carolina, that often has Alabama's number in big games, that begs to differ.
Quote from: renegade on September 10, 2019, 12:33:14 PM
Quote from: NE2 on September 10, 2019, 06:56:38 AM
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That is just over the top. You are an idiot.
You mean Ohio didn't bring in the National Guard to shoot unarmed students at Kent State?
Quote from: Brandon on September 10, 2019, 02:02:57 PM
Quote from: SP Cook on September 10, 2019, 09:36:12 AM
IMHO,
- It is cute that people still think actual relevant football is played north of the Mason-Dixon Line and Ohio River; or west of the Rockies.
Other than the semi-professional team called "Alabama", there's not much south of the Ohio River there.
44-16 is all I have to say to that GO CLEMSON
Quote from: OracleUsr on September 11, 2019, 06:43:10 AM
Quote from: Brandon on September 10, 2019, 02:02:57 PM
Quote from: SP Cook on September 10, 2019, 09:36:12 AM
IMHO,
- It is cute that people still think actual relevant football is played north of the Mason-Dixon Line and Ohio River; or west of the Rockies.
Other than the semi-professional team called "Alabama", there's not much south of the Ohio River there.
44-16 is all I have to say to that GO CLEMSON
Which year did you start rooting for Clemson? Was it 2015 or 2016?
Quote from: Brandon on September 10, 2019, 02:02:57 PM
Other than the semi-professional team called "Alabama", there's not much south of the Ohio River there.
Since the second of two different northern or far western programs won the national championship, not counting the vacated titles from openly professional USC, which would be Michigan in 1997, 10 different southern teams from four different conferences have won it. Clemson, Alabama, Florida State, Auburn, Florida, Louisiana State, Texas, Miami, Oklahoma, and Tennessee.
Non-southern football is Ohio State and the History Channel. Demographics is destiny.
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on September 11, 2019, 09:48:06 AM
Sensitive much?
I think renegades' comment was spot on. A habitual and continuously disruptive poster posted a post that was unrelated to the matter being discussed, contained a photographic profanity that would be filtered out if typed normally, was political, arguably inaccurate, and, IMHO, intended to disrupt and call attention to the poster, rather than contribute to the hobby we share and the community we are members of.
Which pretty much sums up 99% of said poster's "contributions".
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 09, 2019, 09:43:07 PM
I seem to recall everyone bitched during the Lloyd Carr era also...really pretty much with every coach. One of the things about the Michigan fan base (which I'm a part of) is how much bitching and complaining goes on every year related to the football team. Yeah the expectations are higher are Michigan, but everyone always seems to wonder why it is one of the most hated fan bases out there...this is why. It's not like UofM even lost to Army, it's still potentially a long season (granted they need to improve greatly). It could be worse, Rich Rodriguez could still be around.
Well said
Quote from: SP Cook on September 11, 2019, 10:11:30 AM
a post that was unrelated to the matter being discussed
Not if he doesn't like Ohio. (You do know what the original picture is of, right?)
Also, the phrase "photographic profanity" got a solid chuckle out of me. Thanks for that.
Quote from: thspfc on September 11, 2019, 08:20:57 AM
Quote from: OracleUsr on September 11, 2019, 06:43:10 AM
Quote from: Brandon on September 10, 2019, 02:02:57 PM
Quote from: SP Cook on September 10, 2019, 09:36:12 AM
IMHO,
- It is cute that people still think actual relevant football is played north of the Mason-Dixon Line and Ohio River; or west of the Rockies.
Other than the semi-professional team called "Alabama", there's not much south of the Ohio River there.
44-16 is all I have to say to that GO CLEMSON
Which year did you start rooting for Clemson? Was it 2015 or 2016?
I pretty much root for any team that's playing Alabama. I'll even cheer for Tennessee over the Tide.
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on September 11, 2019, 10:23:48 AM
Quote from: SP Cook on September 11, 2019, 10:11:30 AM
a post that was unrelated to the matter being discussed
Not if he doesn't like Ohio. (You do know what the original picture is of, right?)
Of course he does. And what happened there is irrelevant to college football.