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In Maryland, a full cloverleaf exists at Exit 14 of Interstate 68 to allow US 40 and US 219 to switch to/from their own routes in Garrett County. The cloverleaf is in a very rural area with few buildings or other signs of habitation. Where else in the eastern U.S. can cloverleafs be found in rural areas like this one?

I-26 and I-95 in the SC Lowcountry. its a very old and shitty setup.

Virginia -

I-64 Exit 231 - VA-607 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.3852511,-76.7631792,1256m/data=!3m1!1e3)
I-295 Exit 3 - US-460 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1922782,-77.3275394,1942m/data=!3m1!1e3)
I-295 Exit 22 - VA-5 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.436677,-77.3335656,1369m/data=!3m1!1e3)
I-295 Exit 28 - US-60 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.5102672,-77.274352,1934m/data=!3m1!1e3)
I-295 Exit 31 - VA-156 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.5488942,-77.2846405,1290m/data=!3m1!1e3)
I-81 Exit 89 - US-11 / VA-100 (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.9929835,-80.7922226,1093m/data=!3m1!1e3)

Here's another discussion branching off from the OP - Any examples of cloverleafs that were originally built in a rural area, but has since been developed?

Illinois:

- I-39/80
- I-39/88

Mike

Also for Illinois:
* I-72 at US 67
* I-57 at IL 16

Missouri
* I-55 at I-57/US 60
* I-70 at US 65

Quote from: sprjus4 on December 08, 2019, 09:58:26 PM
Virginia -
I-64 Exit 231 - VA-607 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.3852511,-76.7631792,1256m/data=!3m1!1e3)
I-295 Exit 3 - US-460 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1922782,-77.3275394,1942m/data=!3m1!1e3)
I-295 Exit 22 - VA-5 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.436677,-77.3335656,1369m/data=!3m1!1e3)
I-295 Exit 28 - US-60 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.5102672,-77.274352,1934m/data=!3m1!1e3)
I-295 Exit 31 - VA-156 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.5488942,-77.2846405,1290m/data=!3m1!1e3)
I-81 Exit 89 - US-11 / VA-100 (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.9929835,-80.7922226,1093m/data=!3m1!1e3)

I wouldn't really call any of the I-295 interchanges "rural."

Maybe in a strict technical sense, but even back when built it was a metropolitan beltway.

Quote from: Revive 755 on December 08, 2019, 10:30:05 PM
Also for Illinois:
* I-72 at US 67
* I-57 at IL 16

Missouri
* I-55 at I-57/US 60
* I-70 at US 65

The I-57/IL 16 Cloverleaf exists because it is the exit for Eastern Illinois University, serving Mattoon and Charleston

The I-74/80/280 and I-80/88/IL 5/92 Cloverleaves on the Eastern Fringes of the Quad Cities Metro Area are still pretty rural in their immediate areas

The I-55/57/US 60 Cloverleaf leads right to developed areas of Sikeston, leading West/South on US 60/Future I-57

Quote from: mgk920 on December 08, 2019, 10:14:31 PM
Illinois:
- I-39/80
- I-39/88
Mike

I-39/88 Cloverleaf is building up around it, as Rochelle grows with more Distribution Centers and the Union Pacific Intermodal Rail Yard. Probably doesn't hurt that both the I-39 and IL 251 Exits off I-88 are Free Exits

I-35 and US 18 in northern Iowa. US 18 isn't yet built west of I-35, but both highways have C/D lanes through the interchange.

Quote from: X99 on December 09, 2019, 12:53:07 AM
I-35 and US 18 in northern Iowa. US 18 isn't yet built west of I-35, but both highways have C/D lanes through the interchange.

Also I-35/US 20 and I-35/US 30 in Iowa.

Mike

The OP does say "in the eastern US", but I'm guessing this isn't a hard-and-fast rule?

Though there's usually at least one thing in WA for each of these "unusual features" threads, I cannot think of any rural cloverleafs. Virtually all of the cloverleafs were built as part of early freeway construction (up to the 1970s, basically), and that was it. Freeway construction since 1980 really hasn't included any cloverleafs that I can think of, with only a couple close examples that are otherwise parclos (WA-167 @ WA-18, for example).

Sorry for the otherwise underwhelming post; hoping my other WA friends can confirm my suspicions.

Quote from: jakeroot on December 09, 2019, 03:18:13 AM
The OP does say "in the eastern US", but I'm guessing this isn't a hard-and-fast rule?

If he really meant that, he should have posted this in the appropriate regional board.

Quote from: MNHighwayMan on December 09, 2019, 08:49:05 AM

Quote from: jakeroot on December 09, 2019, 03:18:13 AM
The OP does say "in the eastern US", but I'm guessing this isn't a hard-and-fast rule?

If he really meant that, he should have posted this in the appropriate regional board.

There are several boards that are in the eastern US. A single one couldn't be chosen.

Quote from: jakeroot on December 09, 2019, 03:18:13 AM
The OP does say "in the eastern US", but I'm guessing this isn't a hard-and-fast rule?

Though there's usually at least one thing in WA for each of these "unusual features" threads, I cannot think of any rural cloverleafs. Virtually all of the cloverleafs were built as part of early freeway construction (up to the 1970s, basically), and that was it. Freeway construction since 1980 really hasn't included any cloverleafs that I can think of, with only a couple close examples that are otherwise parclos (WA-167 @ WA-18, for example).

In Wisconsin a new cloverleaf between WI 29 and US 53 was completed in 2004.

The Western Kentucky Parkway and Natcher Parkway (now I-165)

Cloverleafs at the WK and Pennyrile, and I-24 and Purchase, were eliminated when I-69 was designated.

The immediate vicinity of the I-64/I-265 cloverleaf east of Louisville is rural.

How rural would one consider the I-84/NY 17 interchange near Middletown to be?

How rural?  The I-94/I-69 interchange is near Marshall, MI - but is in the midst of farm land.

NY has a few examples that are at least borderline rural:
- NY 17 and NY 42 in Monticello
- I-84 and the Taconic State Parkway in East Fishkill
- I-86 and NY 36 north of Hornell
- NY 14 and NY 96 north of Geneva. This one is between two surface roads.
- I-81 and NY 12 southwest of Alexandria Bay
- I-87 and US 9 north of Saratoga Springs

Quote from: hbelkins on December 09, 2019, 02:25:29 PM
How rural would one consider the I-84/NY 17 interchange near Middletown to be?

Definitely exurban. There's development abutting the interchange on all sides.

Quote from: MNHighwayMan on December 09, 2019, 08:49:05 AM

Quote from: jakeroot on December 09, 2019, 03:18:13 AM
The OP does say "in the eastern US", but I'm guessing this isn't a hard-and-fast rule?

If he really meant that, he should have posted this in the appropriate regional board.

*whew*  Now that we've got that pesky qualifier out of the way...  Saudi Arabia (https://goo.gl/maps/FqkUNyDwuoP1R78PA)

In Oklahoma:

I-35 & US-412 in Northern OK is most definitely a rural cloverleaf.

The cloverleaf interchange at I-44, OK-4 & the H.E. Bailey Turnpike Extension is technically rural area. But the SW reaches of metro OKC are starting to grow in that direction. Farther up I-44 near Afton there is a trumpet interchange that goes from the turnpike into a cloverleaf interchange with US-59/US-60.

I don't know if the I-40/US-69 interchange next to Checotah qualifies as "rural." The scenery looks pretty rural from I-40. The cloverleaf with US-75 and I-40 next to Henryetta is definitely more urban/suburban.

The interchange with US-412 and US-69 in NE OK near Choteau is technically a cloverleaf interchange, although it is a very odd looking one.

MN:
I-35/I-90
I-35/US 14
I-94/MN 15

Quote from: Big John on December 09, 2019, 11:31:04 AM

Quote from: jakeroot on December 09, 2019, 03:18:13 AM
The OP does say "in the eastern US", but I'm guessing this isn't a hard-and-fast rule?

Though there's usually at least one thing in WA for each of these "unusual features" threads, I cannot think of any rural cloverleafs. Virtually all of the cloverleafs were built as part of early freeway construction (up to the 1970s, basically), and that was it. Freeway construction since 1980 really hasn't included any cloverleafs that I can think of, with only a couple close examples that are otherwise parclos (WA-167 @ WA-18, for example).

In Wisconsin a new cloverleaf between WI 29 and US 53 was completed in 2004.

Just to be clear, I'm not suggesting that new cloverleafs aren't being built elsewhere. I just haven't seen any new ones in WA.

Quote from: Beltway on December 08, 2019, 11:30:56 PM

Quote from: sprjus4 on December 08, 2019, 09:58:26 PM
Virginia -
I-64 Exit 231 - VA-607 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.3852511,-76.7631792,1256m/data=!3m1!1e3)
I-295 Exit 3 - US-460 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1922782,-77.3275394,1942m/data=!3m1!1e3)
I-295 Exit 22 - VA-5 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.436677,-77.3335656,1369m/data=!3m1!1e3)
I-295 Exit 28 - US-60 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.5102672,-77.274352,1934m/data=!3m1!1e3)
I-295 Exit 31 - VA-156 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.5488942,-77.2846405,1290m/data=!3m1!1e3)
I-81 Exit 89 - US-11 / VA-100 (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.9929835,-80.7922226,1093m/data=!3m1!1e3)

I wouldn't really call any of the I-295 interchanges "rural."

Maybe in a strict technical sense, but even back when built it was a metropolitan beltway.

When I-295 was built, the majority of the interchanges were rural. Development has since spread outwards largely due to I-295's proximity and ease of access, but the interchanges I've posted are largely still rural.

I'd consider that stretch of I-295 more of an outer bypass. It may be called a beltway in a strict technical sense, but there's far more thru trips than local trips that utilize it.

The only part that really serves as a developed beltway would really be between VA-615 and I-64 West (18 miles), and VA-36 and VA-618 (7 miles), where they get closer to urban areas (Richmond and Hopewell respectively). The remaining 27 miles is largely rural, largely undeveloped or exurban. So it's about half and half. Even the half that traverses the developed areas still maintains a rural design on the mainline itself, largely due to the forested design around it, large rural design interchanges, and holds a 70 mph speed limit.

Quote from: sprjus4 on December 09, 2019, 04:46:12 PM

Quote from: Beltway on December 08, 2019, 11:30:56 PM
I wouldn't really call any of the I-295 interchanges "rural."
Maybe in a strict technical sense, but even back when built it was a metropolitan beltway.

When I-295 was built, the majority of the interchanges were rural. Development has since spread outwards largely due to I-295's proximity and ease of access, but the interchanges I've posted are largely still rural.

Yes, technically the immediate area around most interchanges could have been termed "rural."

Given that it is a beltway around the Richmond-Petersburg area and that even in 1980 was in the defined metropolitan area, and skirts just outside of the Richmond urbanized area, and skirts the edges of Petersburg and Hopewell, and that all of the interchanges now have at least significant development nearby, I would not call those areas "rural."

Penna

I80/I79: kind of in the middle of nowhere.

I81/PA61: Rural, middle of nowhere.

Quote from: SteveG1988 on December 10, 2019, 03:14:10 AM
Penna

I80/I79: kind of in the middle of nowhere.

I81/PA61: Rural, middle of nowhere.

I'll agree with you on the 80/79 interchange, but the 81/61 interchange is right next to Frackville and until recently had a mall (albeit a very quiet one!) immediately adjacent to the interchange.
However, if that still counts, then I'll put out there I-80 with US 15 and with I-180/PA 147, and also US 422 with US 119.

One that is definitely rural--I-70 with the Mon-Fayette Expressway (Turnpike 43).

Quote from: 1 on December 09, 2019, 10:44:38 AM

Quote from: MNHighwayMan on December 09, 2019, 08:49:05 AM

Quote from: jakeroot on December 09, 2019, 03:18:13 AM
The OP does say "in the eastern US", but I'm guessing this isn't a hard-and-fast rule?

If he really meant that, he should have posted this in the appropriate regional board.

There are several boards that are in the eastern US. A single one couldn't be chosen.

Precisely! I assumed that a rural cloverleaf was more likely to be found in the eastern US due to the age of the road network east of the Mississippi.

I'm not the OP, but I don't think I'd include freeway-to-freeway cloverleafs in this thread.

Though not an actual cloverleaf, the I-91/US 2 interchange was originally intended to be one.  The two missing direct ramps (SB-to-WB and NB-to-EB) were intended "at a future date".  Given the lack of traffic in northeastern Vermont, I highly doubt they will ever be built.

Quote from: GaryV on December 09, 2019, 02:37:27 PM
How rural?  The I-94/I-69 interchange is near Marshall, MI - but is in the midst of farm land.

The US30/31 interchange near Plymouth, IN, is very similar, immediately surrounded by farm land but near a small city.

New Jersey is filled with cloverleafs.  At the time many were built in rural areas that have now become heavily suburbanized or urbanized. It was basically the preferred design of NJDOT, and seemingly still is when you look at their jughandles and intersection-to-interchange redesigns, which usually have some sort of partial cloverleaf functions.

I-12 & I-55 in Louisiana.

Once again edges of built up are I 74 and US 34 and 34 and 150 near Galesburg and 74 and Illinois 1 at Danville.
Could include 74 and 57 at edge of Champaign

Quote from: jakeroot on December 09, 2019, 04:34:28 PM

Quote from: Big John on December 09, 2019, 11:31:04 AM

Quote from: jakeroot on December 09, 2019, 03:18:13 AM
The OP does say "in the eastern US", but I'm guessing this isn't a hard-and-fast rule?

Though there's usually at least one thing in WA for each of these "unusual features" threads, I cannot think of any rural cloverleafs. Virtually all of the cloverleafs were built as part of early freeway construction (up to the 1970s, basically), and that was it. Freeway construction since 1980 really hasn't included any cloverleafs that I can think of, with only a couple close examples that are otherwise parclos (WA-167 @ WA-18, for example).

In Wisconsin a new cloverleaf between WI 29 and US 53 was completed in 2004.

Just to be clear, I'm not suggesting that new cloverleafs aren't being built elsewhere. I just haven't seen any new ones in WA.

I wouldn't consider US 53/WI 29 to be 'rural', either.

Mike

I-81 at I-26 in eastern Tennessee. Absolutely nothing surrounding it.

Quote from: ClaytonCarte on December 11, 2019, 11:38:29 AM
I-81 at I-26 in eastern Tennessee. Absolutely nothing surrounding it.

There's definitely not a lot going on there, but I'd hesitate to say there's absolute nothing.

(https://i.imgur.com/FwzfKn5.png)

Quote from: CtrlAltDel on December 11, 2019, 02:03:22 PM

Quote from: ClaytonCarte on December 11, 2019, 11:38:29 AM
I-81 at I-26 in eastern Tennessee. Absolutely nothing surrounding it.

There's definitely not a lot going on there, but I'd hesitate to say there's absolute nothing.

(https://i.imgur.com/FwzfKn5.png)

Oh, that's interesting. I had no clue that was there. When you're driving, the trees do a great job of shielding everything.

Quote from: mgk920 on December 11, 2019, 02:17:13 AM

Quote from: jakeroot on December 09, 2019, 04:34:28 PM

Quote from: Big John on December 09, 2019, 11:31:04 AM

Quote from: jakeroot on December 09, 2019, 03:18:13 AM
The OP does say "in the eastern US", but I'm guessing this isn't a hard-and-fast rule?

Though there's usually at least one thing in WA for each of these "unusual features" threads, I cannot think of any rural cloverleafs. Virtually all of the cloverleafs were built as part of early freeway construction (up to the 1970s, basically), and that was it. Freeway construction since 1980 really hasn't included any cloverleafs that I can think of, with only a couple close examples that are otherwise parclos (WA-167 @ WA-18, for example).

In Wisconsin a new cloverleaf between WI 29 and US 53 was completed in 2004.

Just to be clear, I'm not suggesting that new cloverleafs aren't being built elsewhere. I just haven't seen any new ones in WA.

I wouldn't consider US 53/WI 29 to be 'rural', either.

I wouldn't think so either. Although I think the point of his example was to highlight a new cloverleaf (to rebut my misunderstood claim that they weren't being built anymore), not necessarily one that was rural.

Here's a good one, intersection of US-59, US-60 and I-44 access road northeast of Afton, Oklahoma.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191212/cf14a0a2d2ecdb3435aaa2e7fcd2cfa0.jpg)

SM-T580

Quote from: Rick1962 on December 11, 2019, 07:19:55 PM
Here's a good one, intersection of US-59, US-60 and I-44 access road northeast of Afton, Oklahoma.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191212/cf14a0a2d2ecdb3435aaa2e7fcd2cfa0.jpg)

SM-T580

Wow, that's a really good one! Were any C-D lanes considered for this cloverleaf?

This isn't eastern, but I-5 and SR 33 meet a cloverleaf in a very rural area in Merced County, California (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0567629,-120.9707408,687m/data=!3m1!1e3).

TX 36 at TX 317. I stumbled across it detouring around congestion on I-35.
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.1609685,-97.423149,1196m/data=!3m1!1e3

Quote from: Rick1962Here's a good one, intersection of US-59, US-60 and I-44 access road northeast of Afton, Oklahoma.

I mentioned that rural cloverleaf on Page 1 of this thread in Post #17, along with pretty much every other rural cloverleaf in Oklahoma. A trumpet going into a cloverleaf is a pretty unusual thing though. I've driven past that particular one on many road trips out of Oklahoma into Missouri and points farther NE.

I'm not the biggest fan of cloverleaf interchanges but understand their use in rural locations (lower traffic counts, cost savings). I just wish Oklahoma could get on the ball at building directional stack interchanges in the more urban locations. ODOT always has to work in at least two or more cloverleaf loops in any new freeway to freeway interchange, even if it's an interchange that takes more than a decade to build (little jab at the I-44/I-235/B'way Extension project in OKC).

Quote from: mgk920 on December 09, 2019, 02:27:44 AM

Quote from: X99 on December 09, 2019, 12:53:07 AM
I-35 and US 18 in northern Iowa. US 18 isn't yet built west of I-35, but both highways have C/D lanes through the interchange.

Also I-35/US 20 and I-35/US 30 in Iowa.

Mike

The I-35/US 30 interchange, when originally built, was a rural cloverleaf, but now, it has a flyover ramp and Ames pretty much goes right to the interchange nowadays.

One Iowa cloverleaf that is rural that didn't get mentioned is I-29/I-680.

The Big X (74/80/280) SE of the Quads.

Quote from: SSOWorld on December 13, 2019, 05:57:27 PM
The Big X (74/80/280) SE of the Quads.

Big X? How about the Bump? Also I mentioned it on my reply on the 1st Page, in addition to the 80/88/IL 5/92 also in the Quad City area

Quote from: ilpt4u on December 08, 2019, 11:58:11 PM

Quote from: Revive 755 on December 08, 2019, 10:30:05 PM
Also for Illinois:
* I-72 at US 67
* I-57 at IL 16

Missouri
* I-55 at I-57/US 60
* I-70 at US 65

The I-57/IL 16 Cloverleaf exists because it is the exit for Eastern Illinois University, serving Mattoon and Charleston

The I-74/80/280 and I-80/88/IL 5/92 Cloverleaves on the Eastern Fringes of the Quad Cities Metro Area are still pretty rural in their immediate areas

The I-55/57/US 60 Cloverleaf leads right to developed areas of Sikeston, leading West/South on US 60/Future I-57

Quote from: mgk920 on December 08, 2019, 10:14:31 PM
Illinois:
- I-39/80
- I-39/88
Mike

I-39/88 Cloverleaf is building up around it, as Rochelle grows with more Distribution Centers and the Union Pacific Intermodal Rail Yard. Probably doesn't hurt that both the I-39 and IL 251 Exits off I-88 are Free Exits

US 31/US 24 in Indiana

I-77 and U.S. 421 near Hamptonville, NC comes to mind

US-281 & TX-71 south of Marble Falls, TX: https://www.google.com/maps/@30.5093735,-98.2974471,790m/data=!3m1!1e3