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Title: MODOT: No More Funny Business?
Post by: US71 on December 17, 2019, 09:42:29 PM
Rep. Tony Lovasco (R-O'Fallon) has filed a bill to prevent MODOT's information boards from posting anything besides road information.  No more cutesy messages.

https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/politics/2019/12/17/missouri-lawmaker-wants-modot-ditch-highway-sign-jokes/2675250001/
Title: Re: MODOT: No More Funny Business?
Post by: ozarkman417 on December 17, 2019, 10:32:09 PM
There's no harm in putting both bad puns AND road info on a VMS, since the screens can change. I appreciate that MoDOT comes up with something other than "Click it or Ticket" for their VMSs (and as such highlights more ways to keep safe). The only kind of "Road info" I can think of on a clear day that doesn't have a crash or major construction site nearby would be something along the lines of "Minutes to Route XX", and Google has that covered...

Traveling can be a draining and stressful process, so giving travelers a good laugh is certainly a good thing to do. As of writing this there is no hearing scheduled, nor is it on the house calendar.
Title: Re: MODOT: No More Funny Business?
Post by: Scott5114 on December 18, 2019, 04:33:17 AM
There's an argument to be made that signs with no relevant message to display should be off to reduce message loading and allow drivers to ignore signs that don't have an urgent message. That argument isn't being made, however.
Title: Re: MODOT: No More Funny Business?
Post by: GaryV on December 18, 2019, 08:03:43 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 18, 2019, 04:33:17 AM
There's an argument to be made that signs with no relevant message to display should be off to reduce message loading and allow drivers to ignore signs that don't have an urgent message. That argument isn't being made, however.

I saw in the newspaper that when that happened, the highway dept got all kinds of "helpful" phone calls letting them know that a sign was broken ....
Title: Re: MODOT: No More Funny Business?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on December 18, 2019, 09:24:55 AM
If there isn't going to be a traffic advisory on a VMS I'd rather have the genetic information be somewhat amusingly displayed enough through humor.  Otherwise the standard "buckle up,"  "slow down for emergency vehicles,"  "don't text and drive"  or things of the like just all fade into the background.  The humor based messages seem to be way more effective than the generic type.  ADOT in particular has had some zingers that caught on with social media. 
Title: Re: MODOT: No More Funny Business?
Post by: X99 on December 19, 2019, 12:09:13 AM
is this because of the "hey teens, buckling up is totes yeet yo" thing
Title: Re: MODOT: No More Funny Business?
Post by: US71 on December 19, 2019, 11:15:30 AM
On a related note, here is the gentleman coming up with the messages

https://www.kmov.com/news/who-s-behind-the-humor-of-the-witty-signs-along/article_9f79a40b-6277-5fae-bca2-9097e44f20ff.html
Title: Re: MODOT: No More Funny Business?
Post by: hbelkins on December 19, 2019, 12:16:20 PM
If the signs are already there, might as well use them for something even if there are no urgent traffic alerts to display.
Title: Re: MODOT: No More Funny Business?
Post by: hotdogPi on December 19, 2019, 01:13:39 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 19, 2019, 12:16:20 PM
If the signs are already there, might as well use them for something even if there are no urgent traffic alerts to display.

There are some electronic signs that tell you there's no congestion whenever that is the case.
Title: Re: MODOT: No More Funny Business?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on December 19, 2019, 01:44:40 PM
Quote from: X99 on December 19, 2019, 12:09:13 AM
is this because of the "hey teens, buckling up is totes yeet yo" thing

Was that from Missouri?  That message was bad enough to merit discontinuing the English language much less humorous VMS messages. 
Title: Re: MODOT: No More Funny Business?
Post by: ozarkman417 on December 19, 2019, 03:01:33 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 19, 2019, 01:44:40 PM
Quote from: X99 on December 19, 2019, 12:09:13 AM
is this because of the "hey teens, buckling up is totes yeet yo" thing

Was that from Missouri?  That message was bad enough to merit discontinuing the English language much less humorous VMS messages.
Taking a very close look at This photo of the VMS (https://twitter.com/Cris_David2/status/1186415193904930816/photo/1), I found it's exact location (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3443257,-111.7597507,3a,75y,313.83h,90.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0YtnqYkNPDf119atnr_x1Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192).
Title: Re: MODOT: No More Funny Business?
Post by: X99 on December 19, 2019, 04:25:56 PM
Quote from: ozarkman417 on December 19, 2019, 03:01:33 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 19, 2019, 01:44:40 PM
Quote from: X99 on December 19, 2019, 12:09:13 AM
is this because of the "hey teens, buckling up is totes yeet yo" thing

Was that from Missouri?  That message was bad enough to merit discontinuing the English language much less humorous VMS messages.
Taking a very close look at This photo of the VMS (https://t.co/2tRHQbnHpl), I found it's exact location (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3443257,-111.7597507,3a,75y,313.83h,90.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0YtnqYkNPDf119atnr_x1Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192).
i fixed your twitter link
Title: Re: MODOT: No More Funny Business?
Post by: jbnv on December 23, 2019, 09:54:57 AM
Regardless of how frivolous this actually is, I'd introduce this proposal in the Louisiana Legislature. I don't think it's either cute or professional, and estimates on travel times are far more useful to me than platitudes.
Title: Re: MODOT: No More Funny Business?
Post by: Road Hog on December 23, 2019, 10:39:17 AM
TxDOT has had a few good ones, like "Obey speed limits / Don't be a Sooner"  during Red River Showdown week. Nothing wrong with those. Gets the message across.
Title: Re: MODOT: No More Funny Business?
Post by: Plutonic Panda on December 26, 2019, 09:02:36 AM
Yeah I support this bill. Keep these signs strictly for road related information that is urgent, not some cheesy or "˜clever' line. These DOTs need to stop acting like nanny's and cut the crap.
Title: Re: MODOT: No More Funny Business?
Post by: jeffandnicole on December 26, 2019, 10:57:15 AM
Quote from: Road Hog on December 23, 2019, 10:39:17 AM
TxDOT has had a few good ones, like “Obey speed limits / Don’t be a Sooner” during Red River Showdown week. Nothing wrong with those. Gets the message across.


Did anyone slow down as a result of the sign?  If not, then how did it get the message across?
Title: Re: MODOT: No More Funny Business?
Post by: In_Correct on December 26, 2019, 11:28:16 AM
Quote from: Plutonic Panda on December 26, 2019, 09:02:36 AM
Yeah I support this bill. Keep these signs strictly for road related information that is urgent, not some cheesy or ‘clever’ line. These DOTs need to stop acting like nanny’s and cut the crap.

Is Missouri the place I saw several information boards saying: "Do Not Forget The Seat Belt. Love Mom." ?
Title: Re: MODOT: No More Funny Business?
Post by: Alps on December 29, 2019, 10:07:55 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 19, 2019, 12:16:20 PM
If the signs are already there, might as well use them for something even if there are no urgent traffic alerts to display.
Good thing you're not in charge because that's how you end up with confused motorists. That's the opposite of what national VMS policy groups advocate for.
Title: Re: MODOT: No More Funny Business?
Post by: Scott5114 on January 02, 2020, 07:32:15 PM
Quote from: GaryV on December 18, 2019, 08:03:43 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 18, 2019, 04:33:17 AM
There's an argument to be made that signs with no relevant message to display should be off to reduce message loading and allow drivers to ignore signs that don't have an urgent message. That argument isn't being made, however.

I saw in the newspaper that when that happened, the highway dept got all kinds of "helpful" phone calls letting them know that a sign was broken ....


I seem to remember seeing at least one DOT (might have actually been an old MoDOT policy, or perhaps KDOT) that would stave this off by displaying an asterisk on the sign. Periodically it would alternate to the other side of the sign to show that it wasn't "stuck".
Title: Re: MODOT: No More Funny Business?
Post by: sprjus4 on January 02, 2020, 07:33:29 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 02, 2020, 07:32:15 PM
Quote from: GaryV on December 18, 2019, 08:03:43 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 18, 2019, 04:33:17 AM
There's an argument to be made that signs with no relevant message to display should be off to reduce message loading and allow drivers to ignore signs that don't have an urgent message. That argument isn't being made, however.

I saw in the newspaper that when that happened, the highway dept got all kinds of "helpful" phone calls letting them know that a sign was broken ....


I seem to remember seeing at least one DOT (might have actually been an old MoDOT policy, or perhaps KDOT) that would stave this off by displaying an asterisk on the sign. Periodically it would alternate to the other side of the sign to show that it wasn't "stuck".
I've seen this as recently as this summer in Texas around the Corpus Christi area.
Title: Re: MODOT: No More Funny Business?
Post by: ozarkman417 on January 05, 2020, 11:11:18 PM
Plenty of examples of MoDOT's VMS messages can be found on their Instagram page: https://www.instagram.com/missouridot/ (https://www.instagram.com/missouridot/)

They are spread throughout the page so you may have to scroll down a bit.
Title: Re: MODOT: No More Funny Business?
Post by: SteveG1988 on January 06, 2020, 02:51:43 PM
"Tony Sez signz are srs bzns"