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Title: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: dvferyance on January 05, 2020, 09:27:06 PM
In Milwaukee Hwy 100 starts out on the northside as Lovers Lane briefly before changing to Mayfair Rd than later 108th but than later changes back to Lovers Lane. Also Hwy 181 is Wauwatosa Rd in Wauwatosa switched to 76th in Milwaukee than switches back to Wauwatosa Rd in Mequon. Anymore examples of this anyone else knows about? In the case though of Hwy 100 the whole thing was once called Lovers Lane so it wasn't always like that. Wauwatosa changed there portion to Mayfair Rd while West Allis and Greenfield changed theirs to 108th. Milwaukee and Franklin kept their part Lovers Lane resulting in 2 short segments of it an each end.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: cwf1701 on January 05, 2020, 10:56:07 PM
Gratiot Ave in Mt. Clemens MI changes to Main Street before changing back to Gratiot Ave. this is because it was the old route for Gratiot Ave in the city (before the newer northbound and Southbound routes was built in the 60s)
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: Flint1979 on January 06, 2020, 05:18:49 AM
Also in the Detroit area Jefferson Avenue changes to Lake Shore Drive for the Grosse Pointes and then changes back to Jefferson Avenue at the Wayne/Macomb County line.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: Brandon on January 06, 2020, 05:31:20 AM
Crawford Avenue/Pulaski Road in Metro Chicago.  In the north suburbs, it's Crawford, then in the city, it's Pulaski, then back to Crawford in the south suburbs.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: hotdogPi on January 06, 2020, 08:25:24 AM
US 3 in MA between exits 33 and 34: Dunstable Rd. turns into Makepeace Rd. just to cross US 3, and then it changes back to Dunstable Rd. I initially thought that it was because overpass names are shown on freeways, but this one is an underpass.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: webny99 on January 06, 2020, 02:05:13 PM
Good thread!

This section (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/617-599+Winton+Rd,+Rochester,+NY+14609/43.1536462,-77.4945913/@43.1540831,-77.5424269,13.75z/data=!4m8!4m7!1m5!1m1!1s0x89d6ca65664e9f8f:0xfc650ac1cdb0acff!2m2!1d-77.5488428!2d43.1572676!1m0!5m1!1e1) (partially NY 286 and partially unnumbered) is Browncroft Blvd, but it turns back into Atlantic Ave. in both directions. Basically, the four-lane section gets the honor of being called a "boulevard", while the majority of the route, including urban, suburban, and rural sections, is just two lanes, and is therefore an "avenue".
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: epzik8 on January 06, 2020, 02:45:53 PM
This is pretty common in incorporated cities and towns. I know of two examples in my general area:

Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: KEVIN_224 on January 06, 2020, 03:01:45 PM
Referring to the Berlin Turnpike (US 5/CT 15) in central and south-central Connecticut:

It runs from Meriden north-northeast to Wethersfield. The road always had that name in Meriden, Newington and Wethersfield. However, the town of Berlin itself used to sign it as the Wilbur Cross Highway. Thing is, that's what CT Route 15 is known as once south of the Berlin Turnpike (where US Route 5 splits off and becomes Broad Street locally in Meriden).
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: GaryV on January 06, 2020, 03:09:14 PM
Going northbound: Livernois in Detroit, Ferndale and Pleasant Ridge changes (with a discontinuity) to Main St in Royal Oak and Clawson, then back to Livernois in Troy.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: US 89 on January 06, 2020, 04:08:43 PM
Heading north on Utah 126 through Davis County, you'll start out on Main Street in Layton. It changes to State Street at the Clearfield city limits to avoid confusion with that city's Main Street, but then 126 itself veers onto the alignment of the Clearfield Main Street and the name changes accordingly.

Utah 68 is almost universally known as Redwood Road in Salt Lake and Utah Counties, but the name briefly changes to Camp Williams Road within Bluffdale and Herriman city limits. This is well documented on city-installed street blades, but the UDOT signage at traffic signals just calls the whole thing Redwood. The Salt Lake County streets database has Camp Williams Road as the official name of this segment, though Redwood Road is listed as an acceptable alias.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: PHLBOS on January 06, 2020, 04:26:24 PM
In Philadelphia, both 5th & 6th Streets near Independence Hall become Independence Mall East & West respectively between Market & Chestnut Streets.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: TheStranger on January 06, 2020, 05:54:34 PM
Near LAX, Route 1 follows Sepulveda Boulevard underneath the airport runways, which then (due to a recent local decree) becomes Pacific Coast Highway in El Segundo.  In Redondo Beach, the Sepulveda name reappears until Artesia Boulevard/(former, but still somewhat signed?) Route 91.

Sepulveda then pops up one more time for its final southeast segment at the south edge of Redondo Beach, before heading east to Route 103 in Torrance where it becomes Willow Street.

12th Street in Oakland merges into Lake Merritt Boulevard, and then reappears at 1st Avenue.  With the 90s renaming of much of East 14th Street to International Boulevard, 14th essentially feeds into Lake Merritt Boulevard and then reappears miles down the road in San Leandro along Route 185, with East 14th being the only numbered street in that area!

A little bit of a technicality for this one: the old Bayshore Highway routing through San Francisco International Airport was subsumed by runway expansion decades ago, so the San Francisco-Brisbane segment of Bayshore Boulevard and the Millbrae-Burlingame segment of Old Bayshore Highway is connected by Airport Boulevard and South Airport Boulevard (former US 101/bypass US 101) from South San Francisco to San Bruno, then the airport frontage road McDonnell Road between San Bruno Avenue and Millbrae.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: SectorZ on January 06, 2020, 06:04:21 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 06, 2020, 08:25:24 AM
US 3 in MA between exits 33 and 34: Dunstable Rd. turns into Makepeace Rd. just to cross US 3, and then it changes back to Dunstable Rd. I initially thought that it was because overpass names are shown on freeways, but this one is an underpass.

It goes from Tyngsboro (as Dunstable Rd) into Westford (as Makepeace Rd) then back into Tyngsboro to regain its name. From North Chelmsford, you actually go Chelmsford/Tyngsboro/Chelmsford/Tyngsboro/Westford/Tyngsboro in less than a mile, with two of those borders signed.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: 1995hoo on January 06, 2020, 08:22:56 PM
This is reasonably common in Virginia when roads pass through independent cities or towns.

One of the more interesting ones is VA-123. Heading north, it becomes Chain Bridge Road near Fairfax City. It changes to Maple Avenue through the Town of Vienna, then becomes Chain Bridge Road again. Then it becomes Dolley Madison Boulevard for a while (without crossing a jurisdictional border) before becoming Chain Bridge Road again to its terminus.

US-29 is another. It's Lee Highway in Arlington, then it briefly becomes Old Dominion Drive. Old Dominion splits off as VA-309 and US-29 becomes Lee Highway again, then becomes Washington Street through the City of Falls Church, then becomes Lee Highway again when it enters Fairfax County.

I can think of lots of others that change names when passing through independent cities and towns but don't necessarily do so multiple times, or that used to do so before bypasses were built.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: KeithE4Phx on January 06, 2020, 11:36:28 PM
If suffixes don't count, the old US 60/70/80/89 is called Apache twice.  Once in Tempe (Apache Blvd.) between Mill Ave. and the Mesa city limits, and again (Apache Trail) between Power Rd. in Mesa and AZ 88 in Apache Junction, which then picks up the name on the northeast (original) leg to Roosevelt Lake.  In between (most of Mesa), it's called Main St.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: WNYroadgeek on January 07, 2020, 12:06:21 AM
NY 265 is Military Rd twice, from Amherst St. in Buffalo to the Tonawanda city/town line (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/42.9370398,-78.8934635/43.00127,-78.8817168/@43.0011923,-78.8859198,16z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0), then again from Cayuga Dr. in Niagara Falls to NY 104 in Lewiston (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/43.0847785,-78.9629796/43.1598889,-79.0379634/@43.1272041,-79.0081748,13z/data=!4m3!4m2!3e0!5i1).

US 20A is Big Tree Rd three times, from US 20 in Hamburg to Thorn Ave. in Orchard Park (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/42.7706051,-78.8095915/42.7633093,-78.7591893/@42.7721925,-78.7933059,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!4m1!3e0), from NY 400 in East Aurora to NY 77 in Sheldon (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/42.7675383,-78.5938957/42.770358,-78.3887574/@42.7824147,-78.5131261,13z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0), and from NY 256 in Lakeville to West Ave. in Livonia (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/42.8349058,-77.7151643/42.8220626,-77.6727264/@42.8235007,-77.6783,18z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0).
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: paulthemapguy on January 07, 2020, 10:42:12 AM
The main north-south street in Lemont, IL is known as State Street in town, but north and south of town, it's labeled as Lemont Road.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: TheGrassGuy on January 07, 2020, 01:36:36 PM
Technically this is more like a road multiplexing with another than a true example, but in Morris County, NJ, from Mountain Lakes to Kinnelon:

Powerville Rd -> Boulevard -> Elcock Ave -> Powerville Rd -> Kinnelon Rd -> Kiel Ave
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: frankenroad on January 07, 2020, 02:24:56 PM
Ross Avenue in St Bernard, OH, becomes Tennessee Ave when it crosses into the city of Cincinnati, and then back to Ross when it crosses into the city of Norwood.  Each of the three segments is less than a mile long.

I feel like there are others in the Cincinnati area, but I can't think of them at the moment.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: Finrod on January 09, 2020, 11:22:31 AM
In northeast suburban Atlanta, SR 141 is Peachtree Parkway where it splits from Peachtree Industrial Boulevard, which turns into Medlock Bridge Road when it crosses into the next county, then turns back into Peachtree Parkway when it crosses into the county after that.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: Konza on January 09, 2020, 12:01:37 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on January 07, 2020, 10:42:12 AM
The main north-south street in Lemont, IL is known as State Street in town, but north and south of town, it's labeled as Lemont Road.

I suspect there are a number of these in the Chicago suburbs, Lake Cook Road through Barrington being one of them.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: jay8g on January 12, 2020, 01:55:06 AM
Seattle has a few examples of this because nothing about our street grid makes sense, but the most interesting is Lake Washington Blvd S and Lakeside Ave S (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/47.6028152,-122.2850234/47.5855051,-122.2874884/@47.5923928,-122.2923642,2403m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m14!4m13!1m10!3m4!1m2!1d-122.2890619!2d47.5967316!3s0x54906ae59e12ba1d:0x418f5f388e3a968f!3m4!1m2!1d-122.2904408!2d47.5863611!3s0x54906af44db27793:0x57899951afba6771!1m0!3e0?hl=en). The road along Lake Washington in the central part of Seattle is mostly Lake Washington Blvd, but a small section is Lakeside Ave S because the boulevard turns off and runs along the top of the bluff for a couple miles. The reason for the street name turning off like that is that LWB is a historic Olmsted boulevard (https://seattleolmsted.org/parks/lake-washington-boulevard/), while Lakeside Ave S is presumably a later addition.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: skluth on January 12, 2020, 09:19:46 AM
Lindbergh Boulevard as it circumnavigates St Louis changes its name to Kirkwood Rd in Kirkwood and the generic Hwy 67 in north STL County.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: woodpusher on January 12, 2020, 11:57:23 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on January 06, 2020, 05:18:49 AM
Also in the Detroit area Jefferson Avenue changes to Lake Shore Drive for the Grosse Pointes and then changes back to Jefferson Avenue at the Wayne/Macomb County line.
Is it expensive property?

I recall remarking, "It doesn't matter if you're in New Orleans, Baton Rouge, or Chicago:  Lakeshore Drive means expensive property."
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: GaryV on January 13, 2020, 07:58:30 AM
Extremely expensive property.  People like the Ford family live there.

And not just the cachet of a "fancy" road name - it also differentiates that "We are no longer in Detroit."
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: DTComposer on January 13, 2020, 10:23:06 AM
Quote from: TheStranger on January 06, 2020, 05:54:34 PM
Near LAX, Route 1 follows Sepulveda Boulevard underneath the airport runways, which then (due to a recent local decree) becomes Pacific Coast Highway in El Segundo.  In Redondo Beach, the Sepulveda name reappears until Artesia Boulevard/(former, but still somewhat signed?) Route 91.

And south of Artesia, it is PCH again, so the continuous route is:

Sepulveda -> PCH -> Sepulveda -> PCH

Quote from: TheStranger on January 06, 2020, 05:54:34 PM
Sepulveda then pops up one more time for its final southeast segment at the south edge of Redondo Beach, before heading east to Route 103 in Torrance where it becomes Willow Street.

This iteration of Sepulveda has no direct connection to the other route, though. It seems like it was planned to connect via Camino Real (which itself has had a sorta-disconnect at Torrance Blvd), but Camino Real was stopped short one block from Sepulveda/PCH. Several sources (including Wikipedia, but also quasi-reference books like "Los Angeles A to Z") list Sepulveda as the longest street in L.A. County, but it really is at least two totally separate roadways that just share a name.

Meanwhile, close but not quite: the former CA-9 (then CA-85) between Saratoga and Sunnyvale is called (surprisingly) Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road, then changes to De Anza Boulevard at the Cupertino city limits, then to Sunnyvale-Saratoga Road at the Sunnvyale city limits. It was originally all Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road, but when the De Anza section was renamed, Sunnyvale switched the city order on the name of their section.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: JMoses24 on January 13, 2020, 10:47:55 AM
In Oklahoma City, several east west streets change names at the Moore/Oklahoma City line on the west side, then change back at the eastern boundary between the cities:

–SW 104th becomes North 27th Street while in Moore
–SW 119th becomes North 12th
–SW 134th becomes South 4th
–SW 149th becomes South 19th
–SW 164th becomes South 34th
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: stevashe on January 13, 2020, 06:21:47 PM
Quote from: jay8g on January 12, 2020, 01:55:06 AM
Seattle has a few examples of this because nothing about our street grid makes sense [...]

There's also a few notable grid-related examples in the rest of King County as a result of the County's efforts to prioritize numbered streets over named streets. There are a few roads with straight sections lining up with the grid that are numbered, with winding and/or diagonal sections around them, leading to the road flipping from a name to a number and back.

Notable examples include Northup Way -> NE 20th St -> Northup Way in Bellevue and SE Kent-Kangley Rd -> SE 272nd St -> SE Kent-Kangley road near Covington and Maple Valley
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Post by: lepidopteran on January 13, 2020, 10:07:14 PM
In West-Central OH, State Route 48 is known as (N or S) Main St. for most of its route north of and through the city of Dayton.  But when it goes through Oakwood and Kettering, it's known as Far Hills Ave (it's clearly a "main" street in Oakwood; Kettering maybe not as it sprawls mostly to the east.)  South of there, in Centerville, it's back to Main St.

Further west, Union Rd. maintains that name for its length, except when it runs through Trotwood where it's known as Broadway.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: TheStranger on January 14, 2020, 11:42:14 AM
One I encountered recently in South San Francisco:

Spruce Avenue -> one block named "School Street" past an elementary school -> North Spruce Avenue

Always thought this was extraordinarily superfluous given how short the School Street segment is.

One could argue that SF does something similar with the segment of Polk Street in front of City Hall, which is officially Dr. Carlton B. Goodlett Place now.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: Flint1979 on January 14, 2020, 02:33:56 PM
Quote from: woodpusher on January 12, 2020, 11:57:23 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on January 06, 2020, 05:18:49 AM
Also in the Detroit area Jefferson Avenue changes to Lake Shore Drive for the Grosse Pointes and then changes back to Jefferson Avenue at the Wayne/Macomb County line.
Is it expensive property?

I recall remarking, "It doesn't matter if you're in New Orleans, Baton Rouge, or Chicago:  Lakeshore Drive means expensive property."
The Grosse Pointes are among the most wealthiest of places in the Detroit area so yes it is pretty expensive. The Edsel and Eleoner Ford House is on the street. It's in Grosse Pointe Shores which is probably the most wealthiest of the Pointes.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: Mrt90 on January 14, 2020, 05:27:16 PM
In Kenosha, WI, Highway 32 is Sheridan Road.  On the north side of town there is an intersection where if you follow Highway 32 by going straight the road becomes Alford Park Drive and if you keep going north it becomes Sheridan Road again when you are north of Carthage College.  I'm not sure if this one counts because at that same intersection you could turn left to follow Sheridan Road which then connects again with Sheridan Road north of Carthage College.

In Kenosha County, WI, Highway 142 west of I-94/I-41 is Burlington Road.  The road has a number of curves but generally goes WNW toward the city of Burlington; however, when the road crosses US45 it straightens out and goes directly west and that small straight portion is 15th Street which follows county grid scheme, then it curves again and goes back to being Burlington Road.  If you were to follow that road from the lakefront in Kenosha to where it ends in Burlington you would be on Washington Road/38th Street/Burlington Road/15th Street/Burlington Road/Bushnell Road/Main Street.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: theline on January 16, 2020, 06:48:46 AM
In downtown South Bend, Michigan Street veers to the east for five blocks and then veers back to the west. For many years that five-block section was called St. Joseph St., in accordance with non-contiguous sections to the south and north.  Recently, those five blocks were renamed Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd. The rest of old St. Joseph Street retains the old name.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49394091362_d49fc62869_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ifMCuS)Michigan-King (https://flic.kr/p/2ifMCuS) by Tom Heline (https://www.flickr.com/photos/185842086@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: sandwalk on January 16, 2020, 12:27:28 PM
Ohio State Route 120 turns into a county road (Morenci Road, Territorial Road) at the Michigan state line and eventually back to a highway when it reaches Indiana: State Road 120.  The Michigan section was formally M-120 on the route that connects Toledo & Elkhart.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: GaryV on January 16, 2020, 02:23:50 PM
Quote from: sandwalk on January 16, 2020, 12:27:28 PM
Ohio State Route 120 turns into a county road (Morenci Road, Territorial Road) at the Michigan state line and eventually back to a highway when it reaches Indiana: State Road 120.  The Michigan section was formally M-120 on the route that connects Toledo & Elkhart.

You missed a bit in the middle.  Morenci Road changes to Main Street in the city of Morenci.

But the roads in IN and OH also have names in some places.  For example, it's Morenci Street in Lyons, OH.  And Territorial Road changes to Toledo Street (along with Indiana 120) after it crosses into IN.

So unless IN 120 is the same name as OH 120, the whole thing can't be considered as switching back to the same "name".
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: TheStranger on January 16, 2020, 05:27:05 PM
Not sure if this counts, yet I think it might:

In Koreatown in Los Angeles, Normandie Avenue splits into Irolo Street and Normandie Avenue at Olympic Boulevard.

The fork of Normandie ends at 7th Street, while Irolo eventually becomes Normandie again at Wilshire!
https://www.google.com/maps/place/W+Olympic+Blvd+%26+Normandie+Ave,+Los+Angeles,+CA+90006/@34.0531491,-118.3001656,19.08z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c2b87f8d2c815b:0xa7b7bc5c9eff2f7e!8m2!3d34.0526296!4d-118.3000264


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Further north, in the San Mateo/Foster City area, 3rd Avenue becomes J. Hart Clinton Drive east of Norfolk Street, then East 3rd Avenue once the road enters Foster City.  (This used to be the main approach road to the San Mateo Bridge until the 1960s)
https://www.google.com/maps/place/J+Hart+Clinton+Dr,+San+Mateo,+CA/@37.5690639,-122.3037306,15.63z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x808f9e8458906e49:0x2b44f0a12c563bae!8m2!3d37.5727922!4d-122.3016471

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One that may or may not count, and kinda similar to the Koreatown example above, is the various Almaden streets in San Jose:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Willow+St+%26+S+Almaden+Ave,+San+Jose,+CA+95110/@37.3250432,-121.8948339,16.46z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x808e334bb421ed3b:0x1f9aca00dbbdbeea!8m2!3d37.3189317!4d-121.8822365

Southbound, one drives from Almaden Boulevard in downtown San Jose to Vine Street to Almaden Road.

Northbound the transition isn't quite there: Almaden Road to Almaden Avenue.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: sandwalk on January 18, 2020, 03:08:48 AM
Quote from: GaryV on January 16, 2020, 02:23:50 PM
Quote from: sandwalk on January 16, 2020, 12:27:28 PM
Ohio State Route 120 turns into a county road (Morenci Road, Territorial Road) at the Michigan state line and eventually back to a highway when it reaches Indiana: State Road 120.  The Michigan section was formally M-120 on the route that connects Toledo & Elkhart.

You missed a bit in the middle.  Morenci Road changes to Main Street in the city of Morenci.

But the roads in IN and OH also have names in some places.  For example, it's Morenci Street in Lyons, OH.  And Territorial Road changes to Toledo Street (along with Indiana 120) after it crosses into IN.

So unless IN 120 is the same name as OH 120, the whole thing can't be considered as switching back to the same "name".

In both Ohio and Indiana, the road is a state highway labeled "120." In between in Michigan, it is not a state highway labeled "120."  There ya go.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: TheArkansasRoadgeek on February 29, 2020, 11:42:54 PM
This is a bit out of hand: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Little+Rock,+AR/@34.7313278,-92.2407403,14.66z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x87d2a134a11f569b:0x3405f5100df35b17!8m2!3d34.7464809!4d-92.2895948
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: TEG24601 on March 01, 2020, 12:24:20 PM
I originally read this as "Road name is changed by government.  People refuse new name.  Road name changed back."


However, most of these examples are caused by jurisdictional changes, and don't seem to be what OP was suggesting.


However, Seattle has a few that aren't.


1st Ave S, in front of T-Mobile Park is designated as "Dave Neihaus Way", and is no longer legally 1st Ave S.  However, 1st Ave S exists on either side of this 1-block stretch of roadway.


Similarly, due to roadway design changes, Royal Brougham Way (along the north side of T-Mobile Park), is elevated over the railroad tracks, then loops back down to 3rd Ave S.  There is then a 1/2 block disconnect where the primary traffic pattern is on 3rd Ave S, before turning back on to Royal Brougham Way.



Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: cpzilliacus on March 01, 2020, 12:31:21 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 06, 2020, 08:22:56 PM
I can think of lots of others that change names when passing through independent cities and towns but don't necessarily do so multiple times, or that used to do so before bypasses were built.

U.S. 1 in Virginia is another one.  For now, much of it is Jefferson Davis Highway, though I think that the name of the President of the Confederacy will be coming down in the years to come.

A long section of U.S. 1 in Arlington County and City of Alexandria was Jeff Davis Highway but is now Richmond Highway.  In Alexandria, the southbound side becomes Henry Street and the northbound side is Patrick Street.

In Fairfax County, U.S. 1 has been Richmond Highway for as long as I can remember.

In Prince William County, the Jefferson Davis Highway on U.S. name remains, though in the Town of Dumfries,  southbound is Main Street and northbound is Fraley Boulevard.

South of Dumfries, Jefferson Davis Highway resumes. 

I believe it is Jefferson Davis Highway across most of Stafford County, though it becomes Cambridge Street as it gets close to U.S. 17 Business and into the City of Fredericksburg but Jefferson Davis Highway resumes in the city.

In Spotsylvania County, the name Jefferson Davis Highway continues.

Same in Caroline County. 

Someplace around the North Anna River the road becomes  Washington Highway as it heads into Hanover County.

Crossing the Chickahominy River into Henrico County the name changes to Brook Road. 

I don't feel like heading further south right now.



Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: wriddle082 on March 01, 2020, 02:09:13 PM
Nashville has Harding Place running from Harding Road (US 70S) to Granny White Pike, then it turns into Battery Lane from there to Franklin Road (US 31), then becomes TN 255 and Harding Place again and goes all the way to Murfreesboro Road (US 41/70S) near BNA.

History plays a large part in this.  Battery Lane has always ran along its current route, and Harding Place originally only ran from Harding Road to Hillsboro Road.  It was extended east to meet Granny White Pike at Battery Lane in the 50's or 60's when my dad was growing up in that area, and in the 60's and 70's the other Harding Place running east of Franklin Road was constructed up to at least Antioch Pike, then in the early 80's it was extended through construction and renaming to finally meet up with Murfreesboro Road.  There are other realignments in that area but I won't go into those.

A lot of folks automatically assume that Battery Lane is Harding Place, but it really doesn't seem to cause too many problems other than general nitpicking.  It's a lot better situation than Old Hickory Blvd, that's for sure!
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: Big John on March 01, 2020, 02:30:55 PM
Milwaukee renames certain stretches of roads.  For example part of S 27th St is renamed Layton Blvd, then 27th St on either end.  (This one is confusing as there is a Layton Ave nearby but that is a subject for another thread.)
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: Michael on March 03, 2020, 07:51:27 PM
Between Marcellus and Syracuse, there's a portion of Howlett Hill Rd that becomes Dunbar Woods Rd (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0108899,-76.3254744,16z).  It's pretty obvious that Dunbar Woods Rd was built as a bypass of the turn on the old Howlett Hill Rd.  My best guess is that they used a new name so people on the old Howlett Hill Rd wouldn't need to get new addresses.

US 11 in Syracuse has a weird double jog that I didn't notice until several years ago that kind of fits in this thread.  On the south side of Syracuse, it jogs from South Salina St to South State St (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0351059,-76.1481557,17z).  On the north side of Syracuse, North State St meets North Salina St and US 11 turns onto North Salina St (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0569454,-76.1521173,18z).  I'd understand the jog if Salina St had multiple sections or one-way portions, but it's a through street.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: Rothman on March 03, 2020, 08:11:31 PM
Eh, US 11 is just routed around downtown Syracuse.  That's not the weird thing to me.

The signage is horrible at Wolf and Salina.  Try following US 11 southbound.

Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: Brian556 on March 03, 2020, 08:19:41 PM
Orlando FL: SR 436 is known as Altamonte Dr in Altamonte Springs, but is known as Semoran Blvd on either side of that city
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: vdeane on March 03, 2020, 08:31:13 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 03, 2020, 08:11:31 PM
Eh, US 11 is just routed around downtown Syracuse.  That's not the weird thing to me.

The signage is horrible at Wolf and Salina.  Try following US 11 southbound.


NY 32 does a similar jog in southern Albany, which is even stranger.  Unlike US 11, it's an obvious jog both times.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: Rothman on March 03, 2020, 09:41:11 PM
Quote from: vdeane on March 03, 2020, 08:31:13 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 03, 2020, 08:11:31 PM
Eh, US 11 is just routed around downtown Syracuse.  That's not the weird thing to me.

The signage is horrible at Wolf and Salina.  Try following US 11 southbound.


NY 32 does a similar jog in southern Albany, which is even stranger.  Unlike US 11, it's an obvious jog both times.
What about the US 9W "U-Turn" -- comes from the east, heads up Southern and then turns northwest up Delaware?  No GPS has ever had me follow that route.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: vdeane on March 04, 2020, 12:44:33 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 03, 2020, 09:41:11 PM
Quote from: vdeane on March 03, 2020, 08:31:13 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 03, 2020, 08:11:31 PM
Eh, US 11 is just routed around downtown Syracuse.  That's not the weird thing to me.

The signage is horrible at Wolf and Salina.  Try following US 11 southbound.


NY 32 does a similar jog in southern Albany, which is even stranger.  Unlike US 11, it's an obvious jog both times.
What about the US 9W "U-Turn" -- comes from the east, heads up Southern and then turns northwest up Delaware?  No GPS has ever had me follow that route.

That doesn't strike me as particularly strange.  Unlike NY 32, there is NO direct way to get from exit 23 to Delaware and Lark.  Most of the streets north of 2nd Ave are narrow one-ways.  One way or another, you'd have to have a route somewhat resembling what is there (unless you finished the Mid-Crosstown Arterial), and the route they have minimizes the number of turns.  Going a different way only really makes a ton of sense if coming from I-787, and I-787 wasn't planned to end there either.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: -- US 175 -- on March 04, 2020, 03:08:17 PM
The only one I know of off the top in north TX is:

Greenville Ave. (Dallas) => Greenville Ave. (Richardson) => Plano Rd. (Richardson) => Ave. K (Plano) => Greenville Ave. (Allen)

All of this was part of the pre-N. Central Expwy. routing of US 75.  Amazingly enough, only part of the Dallas route really could be considered the way to Greenville (the town NE of Dallas); the rest farther north, as well as the parts in Richardson and Allen, don't really point the way to Greenville in a directional/compass sense.

There are other streets/roads that change names (mostly at city/town borders, but not always) in the DFW area, but the Greenville Ave. example was the only one I could think of that does it like the OP's name-switches-back topic.

There is almost another, but Hillcrest (Dallas) transitions to Ohio Dr. (Plano) but there is no street transition point onto Hillcrest (Frisco), like there probably should have been.  Ohio goes on into Frisco from Plano separately from the point where Hillcrest starts again in Frisco.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: Rothman on March 04, 2020, 03:12:37 PM
Take a look at what Google Maps makes you do if you're headed onto Delaware coming north on US 9W:

https://goo.gl/maps/VBDoenToNjYXDs2w7
 
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: TheGrassGuy on March 07, 2020, 10:23:44 AM
Quote from: Rothman on March 04, 2020, 03:12:37 PM
Take a look at what Google Maps makes you do if you're headed onto Delaware coming north on US 9W:

https://goo.gl/maps/VBDoenToNjYXDs2w7

Legit don't get it
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: roadman65 on March 07, 2020, 10:28:09 AM
Florida in Osceola County with Bronson Highway.  Goes from Bronson to Vine Street, back to Bronson, then 13th Street, and back to Bronson.

Orange County, Orange Blossom Trail has Main Street in Apopka separating the two named parts.
Plus Semoran Blvd. (which is in Seminole County as well) goes from Semoran to Altamonte Drive back to Semoran.

Springfield, NJ has Springfield Avenue become Meisel Avenue and return to it along Union County Road 577.

I am sure there are many times Jefferson Davis Highway in Virginia reappears along US 1.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: TheGrassGuy on March 07, 2020, 03:28:59 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 07, 2020, 10:28:09 AM
I am sure there are many times Jefferson Davis Highway in Virginia reappears along US 1.
I'm pretty sure they changed the name of the whole highway to Arlington Hwy a while back.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: DJ Particle on March 09, 2020, 03:37:07 AM
I can think of two different ways to interpret this...

Back in the days of the Metrodome, the block of Chicago Ave between 5th and 4th was "Kirby Puckett Place", and a block of 10th Ave was named "Rod Carew Place" after the famous Twins players.  Once Target Field was opened, those designations were changed to streets near the new stadium. The previous streets were reverted back to their older names.

Then there's MN-77, which starts out in Apple Valley as Cedar Ave (the old Cedar is "Nichols St. south of the river and "Old Cedar Ave" north of it)...until you cross into Richfield, where the old Cedar never got its name changed.  Once the freeway ends, it feeds back into being Cedar Ave.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: TheGrassGuy on March 09, 2020, 08:48:04 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 07, 2020, 10:28:09 AM

Springfield, NJ has Springfield Avenue become Meisel Avenue and return to it along Union County Road 577.


Only if you go SB
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: US71 on March 09, 2020, 10:06:17 AM
US 30 / Lincoln Highway is 211th St in parts of the Chicago suburbs, but 14th Street in Chicago Heights.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: sparker on March 10, 2020, 05:56:17 PM
Quote from: TheStranger on January 16, 2020, 05:27:05 PM
Not sure if this counts, yet I think it might:

In Koreatown in Los Angeles, Normandie Avenue splits into Irolo Street and Normandie Avenue at Olympic Boulevard.

The fork of Normandie ends at 7th Street, while Irolo eventually becomes Normandie again at Wilshire!
https://www.google.com/maps/place/W+Olympic+Blvd+%26+Normandie+Ave,+Los+Angeles,+CA+90006/@34.0531491,-118.3001656,19.08z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c2b87f8d2c815b:0xa7b7bc5c9eff2f7e!8m2!3d34.0526296!4d-118.3000264


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Further north, in the San Mateo/Foster City area, 3rd Avenue becomes J. Hart Clinton Drive east of Norfolk Street, then East 3rd Avenue once the road enters Foster City.  (This used to be the main approach road to the San Mateo Bridge until the 1960s)
https://www.google.com/maps/place/J+Hart+Clinton+Dr,+San+Mateo,+CA/@37.5690639,-122.3037306,15.63z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x808f9e8458906e49:0x2b44f0a12c563bae!8m2!3d37.5727922!4d-122.3016471

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One that may or may not count, and kinda similar to the Koreatown example above, is the various Almaden streets in San Jose:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Willow+St+%26+S+Almaden+Ave,+San+Jose,+CA+95110/@37.3250432,-121.8948339,16.46z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x808e334bb421ed3b:0x1f9aca00dbbdbeea!8m2!3d37.3189317!4d-121.8822365

Southbound, one drives from Almaden Boulevard in downtown San Jose to Vine Street to Almaden Road.

Northbound the transition isn't quite there: Almaden Road to Almaden Avenue.

Almaden Road -- an extension of Almaden Ave. -- begins south of Alma, splitting a couple of blocks south of there into Almaden Expressway and Almaden Road (on the original arterial alignment along Guadalupe River); the latter re-intersects the expressway south of Curtner Ave.  Almaden Road continues sporadically as a frontage road on the east side of the the expressway; there is a frontage road on the west side signed as Almaden Ave. between Lincoln and Foxworthy.   My office is a couple of blocks from the original "split" -- and my mechanic's right on Almaden Road, which I use to get to work 5 days a week. 

Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: Flint1979 on March 10, 2020, 07:17:10 PM
Quote from: sandwalk on January 18, 2020, 03:08:48 AM
Quote from: GaryV on January 16, 2020, 02:23:50 PM
Quote from: sandwalk on January 16, 2020, 12:27:28 PM
Ohio State Route 120 turns into a county road (Morenci Road, Territorial Road) at the Michigan state line and eventually back to a highway when it reaches Indiana: State Road 120.  The Michigan section was formally M-120 on the route that connects Toledo & Elkhart.

You missed a bit in the middle.  Morenci Road changes to Main Street in the city of Morenci.

But the roads in IN and OH also have names in some places.  For example, it's Morenci Street in Lyons, OH.  And Territorial Road changes to Toledo Street (along with Indiana 120) after it crosses into IN.

So unless IN 120 is the same name as OH 120, the whole thing can't be considered as switching back to the same "name".

In both Ohio and Indiana, the road is a state highway labeled "120." In between in Michigan, it is not a state highway labeled "120."  There ya go.
The roadway in Michigan use to be M-120 as well. It was a three State highway with the same number. Michigan turned that part of the state trunk line back to local control though. M-120 was reused in another part of the state in the Muskegon area. So indeed at one time the they were connected as 120. It hasn't been M-120 since 1961 and was originally M-174.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: sparker on March 11, 2020, 07:51:02 PM
Prior to Santa Ana Freeway development (1947-59) outward from L.A., LRN 174/SSR 10 displayed this phenomenon -- the route started out in the Westchester area of Los Angeles (near LAX) as Manchester Avenue, and continued east to just past the L.A. River, where it changed names through Downey, Norwalk, and Santa Fe Springs to Firestone Blvd., only to revert to Manchester Avenue once it crossed into Orange County at Buena Park.  That name continued all the way through Anaheim, where the street alignment picked up LRN 2/US 101 at the Los Angeles St. intersection.  Curiously, while SSR 10 terminated at that intersection, LRN 174 continued, effectively (if not legally) multiplexing with LRN 2 about a mile south to the Chapman Ave. intersection, where LRN 2 turned east onto Chapman into the city of Orange, turning south again at Main Street.  LRN 174/Manchester Ave. continued ahead southeast into Santa Ana -- signed as US 101 -- where it terminated at Main Street north of downtown.       
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: cpzilliacus on March 13, 2020, 12:18:39 AM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on March 07, 2020, 03:28:59 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 07, 2020, 10:28:09 AM
I am sure there are many times Jefferson Davis Highway in Virginia reappears along US 1.
I'm pretty sure they changed the name of the whole highway to Arlington Hwy a while back.

I believe they changed the name to Richmond Highway, which is consistent with the longtime name of U.S. 1 in Fairfax County.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: cpzilliacus on March 13, 2020, 12:32:48 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 06, 2020, 08:22:56 PM
This is reasonably common in Virginia when roads pass through independent cities or towns.

One of the more interesting ones is VA-123. Heading north, it becomes Chain Bridge Road near Fairfax City. It changes to Maple Avenue through the Town of Vienna, then becomes Chain Bridge Road again. Then it becomes Dolley Madison Boulevard for a while (without crossing a jurisdictional border) before becoming Chain Bridge Road again to its terminus.

US-29 is another. It's Lee Highway in Arlington, then it briefly becomes Old Dominion Drive. Old Dominion splits off as VA-309 and US-29 becomes Lee Highway again, then becomes Washington Street through the City of Falls Church, then becomes Lee Highway again when it enters Fairfax County.

Not so far away, but much less well-known are two instances in the District of Columbia.

North Capitol Street runs in a very straight alignment from its origin at Louisiana Avenue to the intersection at Michigan Avenue, about 2.6 miles north.  Beyond Michigan Avenue, the road becomes an isolated expressway (not connected to any other freeway or expressway for a little more than a mile), to the signals at Fort Drive, where this gets interesting.  The North Capitol Street name just disappears (Google Maps is incorrect) and the road changes names to Clermont Drive, N.E. (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9451115,-77.0075899,3a,15y,74.57h,92.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOVfi3n7mOWupCC2a-pjVZw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) for a distance of 0.3 miles.

At the north terminus of Clermont Drive, the North Capitol Street traffic swings left onto Hawaii Avenue, N.E. (also incorrectly shown on Google Maps) and follows that street for a block (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/38.9463548,-77.0075075/38.9471596,-77.0085658/@38.9466423,-77.0087026,19z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0), and then a right turn back onto North Capitol Street.

I assert that a very small percentage of regular drivers know that they are on Clermont Drive or Hawaii Avenue when they use North Capitol Street.

The other example involves Florida Avenue.  Headed west from the intersection of 7th Street and Florida Avenue, N.W., Florida Avenue veers away from the main flow of traffic at 9th Street, and drivers follow U Street, N.W.  (Florida Avenue is not well-signed and most drivers stay with the flow of traffic on U Street as shown here (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/38.916002,-77.0212648/38.9146578,-77.0457228/@38.9161455,-77.0486171,14z/data=!3m1!5s0x89b7b7c8c3733cdf:0x6e3ce34b72558c40!4m2!4m1!3e0)).  After about a mile, Florida Avenue comes back to U Street at 18th Street, and much of the traffic follows Florida Avenue once again.  The unusual shape of Florida Avenue (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/38.916002,-77.0212648/38.9145928,-77.0459348/@38.9163459,-77.056256,14z/data=!4m19!4m18!1m15!3m4!1m2!1d-77.0262125!2d38.9206083!3s0x89b7b7e3f5f1feb9:0x68947526f9ff88d0!3m4!1m2!1d-77.0341974!2d38.9194177!3s0x89b7b7dd8484a023:0x6582e9d914be43b7!3m4!1m2!1d-77.0368707!2d38.9190249!3s0x89b7b7dcf3b6f897:0x944ad83eac39082b!1m0!3e0) means that there are issues with emergency dispatching, for Florida Avenue, N.W. intersects with several of the lettered streets - twice.  Dave Statter of the fine Statter911 (https://www.statter911.com/) site had some choice words for the D.C. Office of Unified Communications (OUC) on this subject here (https://www.statter911.com/2020/03/04/when-will-dc-911-ever-learn-there-are-two-florida-r-intersections-in-the-nations-capitol/?fbclid=IwAR2XxHDHSTlQn1ymqze88T01FpzOJAhglpCJoQ8e2OPNP4Da8_evYT-GeeI).
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: apeman33 on March 13, 2020, 01:41:04 AM
Here in Butler County, KS, one of the main roads starts as Butler Road, becomes Andover Road inside Andover (of course), becomes Butler Road again, then becomes Rose Hill Road inside (you guessed it) Rose Hill, then Butler Road one last time.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: Verlanka on March 13, 2020, 06:27:57 AM
Quote from: cpzilliacus on March 13, 2020, 12:32:48 AM
The other example involves Florida Avenue.  Headed west from the intersection of 7th Street and Florida Avenue, N.W., Florida Avenue veers away from the main flow of traffic at 9th Street, and drivers follow U Street, N.W.  (Florida Avenue is not well-signed and most drivers stay with the flow of traffic on U Street as shown here (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/38.916002,-77.0212648/38.9146578,-77.0457228/@38.9161455,-77.0486171,14z/data=!3m1!5s0x89b7b7c8c3733cdf:0x6e3ce34b72558c40!4m2!4m1!3e0)).  After about a mile, Florida Avenue comes back to U Street at 18th Street, and much of the traffic follows Florida Avenue once again.  The unusual shape of Florida Avenue (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/38.916002,-77.0212648/38.9145928,-77.0459348/@38.9163459,-77.056256,14z/data=!4m19!4m18!1m15!3m4!1m2!1d-77.0262125!2d38.9206083!3s0x89b7b7e3f5f1feb9:0x68947526f9ff88d0!3m4!1m2!1d-77.0341974!2d38.9194177!3s0x89b7b7dd8484a023:0x6582e9d914be43b7!3m4!1m2!1d-77.0368707!2d38.9190249!3s0x89b7b7dcf3b6f897:0x944ad83eac39082b!1m0!3e0) means that there are issues with emergency dispatching, for Florida Avenue, N.W. intersects with several of the lettered streets - twice.  Dave Statter of the fine Statter911 (https://www.statter911.com/) site had some choice words for the D.C. Office of Unified Communications (OUC) on this subject here (https://www.statter911.com/2020/03/04/when-will-dc-911-ever-learn-there-are-two-florida-r-intersections-in-the-nations-capitol/?fbclid=IwAR2XxHDHSTlQn1ymqze88T01FpzOJAhglpCJoQ8e2OPNP4Da8_evYT-GeeI).
And Florida Ave used to be called Boundary Street since it bordered the old District of Columbia.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: cpzilliacus on March 14, 2020, 12:03:04 AM
Quote from: Verlanka on March 13, 2020, 06:27:57 AM
And Florida Ave used to be called Boundary Street since it bordered the old District of Columbia.

That is not correct.

Boundary Street was never one of the borders of the District of Columbia.  But it was the boundary between the City of Washington to the south and Washington County to the north (Washington County being mostly rural land out to the border with Maryland).   In the 1870's, Congress abolished the two cities in the District of Columbia (Washington and Georgetown), also abolished Washington County, and redefined all of Washington to be the District of Columbia, which is how things remain to this day.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: GaryA on April 21, 2020, 01:59:43 PM
I remember driving roads like MD 140 and its continuation in PA, and bring amused by the progression of

TownA Rd/St/Pike (usually Pike) --> (nearing TownA) Baltimore Rd/Pike --> (in TownA) Main St --> (leaving TownA) TownB Pike --> Baltimore Rd/Pike --> Main St --> TownC Pike --> .... 

Main St was in almost every town, Baltimore Rd/Pike only for some, but it was a common (and natural) road naming pattern.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: webny99 on April 21, 2020, 03:44:43 PM
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on February 29, 2020, 11:42:54 PM
This is a bit out of hand: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Little+Rock,+AR/@34.7313278,-92.2407403,14.66z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x87d2a134a11f569b:0x3405f5100df35b17!8m2!3d34.7464809!4d-92.2895948

I guess I'm not seeing the connection to this thread. All I can see is part of Little Rock, prominently centered on the Bill and Hillary Clinton National Airport.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: hotdogPi on April 21, 2020, 03:51:54 PM
Quote from: webny99 on April 21, 2020, 03:44:43 PM
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on February 29, 2020, 11:42:54 PM
This is a bit out of hand: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Little+Rock,+AR/@34.7313278,-92.2407403,14.66z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x87d2a134a11f569b:0x3405f5100df35b17!8m2!3d34.7464809!4d-92.2895948

I guess I'm not seeing the connection to this thread. All I can see is part of Little Rock, prominently centered on the Bill and Hillary Clinton National Airport.

It's the curvy road that goes around the airport, changing names four or five times.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: lepidopteran on April 23, 2020, 04:52:09 PM
Not sure if this counts, but greater Detroit has

Southfield Rd., which starts at the Detroit River in a place called Ecorse, running west as a 5-lane arterial, until Lincoln Park where it becomes a divided boulevard with as many as 8 lanes.
At an interchange with I-94, it turns north and becomes
Southfield Freeway, or M-39.
When it reaches the Lodge Freeway/M-10 in its namesake Southfield, it returns to being
Southfield Rd., which remains at 5 lanes until it ends at (another) T-intersection in Birmingham.

This is something to clinch.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: Elm on May 09, 2020, 01:11:13 PM
In/next to Lakewood, Colorado, a segment of Indiana St between 6th and Colfax Aves is "Denver West Colorado Millls Blvd,"  after the nearby mall and office park (map (https://www.google.com/maps/@?api=1&map_action=map&center=39.729437,-105.165454&zoom=16&basemap=satellite)). Unrelated to the topic, that road goes through several other names after Indiana St on both ends.

For a few less fitting examples:

In a case of road names sticking to the street grid, in Englewood and Cherry Hills Village, Hampden Ave (US 285) shifts south a block for about a mile, where it becomes Jefferson Ave (map (https://www.google.com/maps/@?api=1&map_action=map&center=39.651158,%20-104.980594&zoom=16&basemap=satellite)). Some maps also call it "Hampden Bypass,"  but "Jefferson"  is on the signs/addresses.

As a brief couplet situation, in Denver, southbound Santa Fe Dr turns into South Platte River Dr between I-25 and where Louisiana Ave would be (map (https://www.google.com/maps/@?api=1&map_action=map&center=39.701100,-104.993788&zoom=16&basemap=satellite)). (This is very close to where Santa Fe is part of a different couplet, but both directions are "Santa Fe"  for a bock or so north of I-25.)
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: mrsman on December 31, 2020, 06:11:48 PM
Sorry to chime in late, but wanted to add some more examples in the L.A. area.

Crescent Heights Blvd in LA/West Hollywood changes to McCarthy Vista at Wilshire, then to Carrillo at San Vicente, and then back to Crescent Heights at Olympic.  [This is similar to the Normandie/Irolo situation others have mentioned, but better as there is no Crescent Heights at all between Wilshire and Olympic.  The lack of Crescent Heights in this section does lead to considerable confusion and IMO the whole stretch should be renamed as Crescent Heights.]

Street names change alot when crossing city boundaries.  This is especially true for island cities that are completely (or nearly completely) surrounded by LA.

This happens to many streets around San Fernando: Herrick-5th-Herrick; Bradley-4th-Bradley

Beverly Hills:  Holt-Stanley-Holt; Sherbourne-Carson-Sherbourne.  Stanley and Carson are so short they really should be renamed to Holt and Sherbourne.  Additionally, there is another parallel Stanley only 1.5 miles to the east, so it adds additional confusion.


This also happens with many of the more recent honorifics.  Part of 9th was renamed James M. Wood Blvd, so you have 9th-JMW-9th.  But honestly, I think most people still just refer to the whole street as 9th.

Hudson between Sunset and Hollywood was renamed Shrader Blvd, but this one is less obvious because of the broken grid, it isn't clear that Hudson was all one street.  (But old maps and my memory can confirm it.)

I should also mention one of my favorites.  In Inglewood, find the corner of Florence and La Brea.  A few blocks to the west is a small street named Fir.  Within Inglewood, this is Fir.  Cross into Lennox and the street is now Firmona.  The street is blocked by the 105 freeway, but continues as Firmona for one more block until Imperial Highway and the border with Hawthorne and now the street is called Ramona.  So the name Firmona is a portmanteau of Fir and Ramona - clever!.  But the story is not done.  After Rosecrans, with a slight jig, Firmona reappears.  So we have Fir-Firmona-Ramona-Firmona.


There are more examples, but I'm not listing the ones that aren't continuous.  E.G. Borden-7th-Borden is not continuous as part of 7th is blocked by Valley HS in San Fernando.  Corinth-Albright-Corinth and Purdue-Bledsoe-Purdue in Culver City don't quite work as there are broken blocks just north of Venice Blvd.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: SkyPesos on December 31, 2020, 06:23:08 PM
Quote from: frankenroad on January 07, 2020, 02:24:56 PM
I feel like there are others in the Cincinnati area, but I can't think of them at the moment.
US 42:
After various streets and Central Pkwy in downtown, starts off as Reading Rd. Continues under Reading Rd until Sharonville, where US 42 splits off Reading Rd northeast onto Lebanon Rd. Reading Rd continues north by itself, until it changes to Cincinnati-Dayton Rd after crossing into Butler County. US 42 crosses into Butler County and changes from Lebanon Rd to Cincinnati-Columbus Rd. It then changes back to Reading Rd after crossing the Butler-Warren county line.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: Flint1979 on December 31, 2020, 06:33:32 PM
In Saginaw County E. Genesee becomes Dixie Highway at the Saginaw city limits at Hess. At the Genesee County line it becomes Saginaw Road and then goes through Mount Morris and Flint as Saginaw Street. It changes back to Dixie Highway at the Oakland County line so the part in Genesee County isn't Dixie Highway but the parts in Saginaw and Oakland County are Dixie Highway.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: wanderer2575 on December 31, 2020, 06:41:26 PM
Quote from: lepidopteran on April 23, 2020, 04:52:09 PM
Not sure if this counts, but greater Detroit has

Southfield Rd., which starts at the Detroit River in a place called Ecorse, running west as a 5-lane arterial, until Lincoln Park where it becomes a divided boulevard with as many as 8 lanes.
At an interchange with I-94, it turns north and becomes
Southfield Freeway, or M-39.
When it reaches the Lodge Freeway/M-10 in its namesake Southfield, it returns to being
Southfield Rd., which remains at 5 lanes until it ends at (another) T-intersection in Birmingham.

This is something to clinch.

Actually, Southfield Road goes down to two lanes north of 14 Mile Road, and is basically a 25mph side street in its last half mile.

The champion for the metro Detroit area might be Jefferson Avenue.  From south to north:  The Jefferson Avenue name begins in Brownstown Township, then it is Biddle Avenue through the city of Wyandotte, then back to Jefferson Avenue, then Lake Shore Drive in Grosse Pointe Farms and Grosse Pointe Shores, then back to Jefferson Avenue.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: DandyDan on January 01, 2021, 03:57:56 AM
My old hometown of Papillion, NE, in the Omaha area, has Washington Street as its main street. Going north or south leads to 84th Street. Previously in history, 6th Street became Cornhusker Road going east or west out of town, but when they extended it to run into 108th Street, that created a second 108th and Cornhusker intersection a mile to the north of the original one, which was a no-no, so now it's Portal Road.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: Flint1979 on January 01, 2021, 05:02:05 AM
Quote from: lepidopteran on April 23, 2020, 04:52:09 PM
Not sure if this counts, but greater Detroit has

Southfield Rd., which starts at the Detroit River in a place called Ecorse, running west as a 5-lane arterial, until Lincoln Park where it becomes a divided boulevard with as many as 8 lanes.
At an interchange with I-94, it turns north and becomes
Southfield Freeway, or M-39.
When it reaches the Lodge Freeway/M-10 in its namesake Southfield, it returns to being
Southfield Rd., which remains at 5 lanes until it ends at (another) T-intersection in Birmingham.

This is something to clinch.
Where does it ever change from being Southfield though?
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: KCRoadFan on January 02, 2021, 11:21:16 AM
Surprised that no one on this thread has already mentioned this.

US 67 in St. Louis County is known as Lindbergh Boulevard for most of its length, including through the North County suburbs near the airport, as well as Creve Coeur and Ladue. Upon entering Kirkwood (just north of Manchester Road) it changes names to Kirkwood Road, forming the main drag of that town (while also changing in character from a divided suburban arterial - complete with a strange mishmesh of traffic lights and freeway exits - to a two-lane urban street).

South of I-44 and Watson Road - when it enters Sunset Hills - the road changes back to Lindbergh Boulevard (and resumes its earlier characteristics) for the rest of its length, before eventually merging onto I-255 in Mehlville, just east of I-55 and Lemay Ferry Road.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: froggie on January 02, 2021, 01:14:56 PM
^ Lindbergh Blvd got mentioned near the beginning of the thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=26220.msg2470215#msg2470215).

Locally near me, there is Shadow Lake Rd, which for a stretch in between becomes Mud Island Rd.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: KCRoadFan on January 02, 2021, 01:27:04 PM
Quote from: froggie on January 02, 2021, 01:14:56 PM
^ Lindbergh Blvd got mentioned near the beginning of the thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=26220.msg2470215#msg2470215).

Sorry, I just hadn't noticed it at first when I read the thread.

Anyway, here's another example - this one from my area: in Johnson County near KC, West 135th Street becomes Santa Fe Street as it goes through the central part of Olathe (heading west from Mur-Len Road). At the west end of town, it becomes 135th Street once again.

Also in Johnson County, Gardner Road changes names to Center Street as it goes through Gardner itself.
Title: Re: Roads that change names but then latter change back to the previous name.
Post by: KCRoadFan on January 03, 2021, 12:06:35 AM
Quote from: GaryA on April 21, 2020, 01:59:43 PM
I remember driving roads like MD 140 and its continuation in PA, and bring amused by the progression of

TownA Rd/St/Pike (usually Pike) --> (nearing TownA) Baltimore Rd/Pike --> (in TownA) Main St --> (leaving TownA) TownB Pike --> Baltimore Rd/Pike --> Main St --> TownC Pike --> .... 

Main St was in almost every town, Baltimore Rd/Pike only for some, but it was a common (and natural) road naming pattern.

This phenomenon of naming roads for outbound destinations is very common in Kentucky, as well. Here's a summary of the name changes US 60 goes through between Louisville and Winchester (an east suburb of Lexington), to give you an example.

On the east side of Louisville, US 60 is known as Frankfort Avenue, until it merges with Alternate US 60 (which is also an example, being known as Lexington Road); east of this point, US 60 then becomes Shelbyville Road, a name which - interestingly - it retains all the way up to Shelbyville itself. East of Shelbyville, it becomes Frankfort Road until it crosses into Franklin County, where it takes the name Louisville Road as it eventually comes into Frankfort. On the east side of Frankfort, US 60 is known as Versailles Road; as it approaches Versailles, it changes back to Frankfort Road before becoming Lexington Road east of Versailles. On approach to Lexington, it becomes Versailles Road yet again. Later, on the east side of Lexington, US 60 is called Winchester Road, and in Winchester, it becomes Lexington Road again.

Anyway - you get the idea.