Right out of college, I worked for a short time in an office where the music was piped in. Like XM or Spotify, no commercials, no announcers. I heard a cool song that sounded a little like George Harrison, with a chorus that went sort of like (chords if the song was in B major):
F# - F#m - E - B - G - F - C - F# - F#m - E - B - G - F - C - B
This was before Shazam. I didn't remember any of the lyrics. And, going through George Harrison's catalog, it became increasingly apparent it wasn't him.
17 years later I stumbled across the song again. Here it is. Has anything like that stumped you for a long time?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_F47TRI7pU
That album was yuuuuuge back in the 1970s.
And the first riff in the solo in "Baker Street" was ripped off from Alex Lifeson's solo in "I Think I'm Going Bald."
I was a huge Gerry Rafferty fan back in the day -- I have this album (literally a vinyl album) but have not owned a turntable in over 20 years. I had forgotten about this song. Thanks for the memories.
Home and Dry is actually my favorite song from Gerry Rafferty. Reminded me of my flight home from the Great Lakes when my now-wife (back then just girlfriend) and I had split up earlier in the year and gotten back together before the trip (side note: I proposed to her later that year)
I had thought, speaking of Gerry Rafferty and the topic, that "Stuck in the Middle" by his band, Steeler's Wheel, had been sung by the Beatles, even though the actual group is Scottish, not English.
Quote from: OracleUsr on January 17, 2020, 06:35:43 AM
Home and Dry is actually my favorite song from Gerry Rafferty. Reminded me of my flight home from the Great Lakes when my now-wife (back then just girlfriend) and I had split up earlier in the year and gotten back together before the trip (side note: I proposed to her later that year)
I had thought, speaking of Gerry Rafferty and the topic, that "Stuck in the Middle" by his band, Steeler's Wheel, had been sung by the Beatles, even though the actual group is Scottish, not English.
I forget, where in Scotland are they from? My family has roots in the Glasgow area, BTW
I have plenty of these. Back when I was a little kid, my dad used to record the Midnight Special public radio program onto cassette tapes, and we would often listen to them on driving trips. A lot of those songs were by little-known performers. That, plus the fact that I can usually only half-remember one or two lines, plus the fact that the artists tend to have near-zero online presence–makes it really difficult to figure out what song I have stuck in my head from 25 years ago. Every so often, I'll get lucky and figure it out. Most times, however, it's an exercise in futility trying to look it up.
Quote from: hbelkins on January 16, 2020, 02:03:27 PM
That album was yuuuuuge back in the 1970s.
And the first riff in the solo in "Baker Street" was ripped off from Alex Lifeson's solo in "I Think I'm Going Bald."
I've known each of those songs for over 25 years and never caught that (clearly hear it though now). Probably known Baker St a lot longer since it was a radio hit.
My favorite example of this (not personal) was a story I heard on the CBC a few years ago. A woman in British Columbia heard a song on a Vancouver radio station in the mid-90s, and recorded the song on tape at the time (not great quality). After being featured in a story on CBC's "On the Coast", 22 years after her recording, someone found the song:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/musical-mystery-solved-on-the-coast-1.3327252
Ended up being a song from a small Toronto band.
The one example for me that stands out is a song I heard a time or two when I was small (early to mid 70s) that had a part that went "ba-ba-ba-ba-bom, ba-ba-bom-bom-bom"
Never heard it again until it appeared in the background of a scene in Geoffery Rush movie Shine, which I saw a few years after its 1996 release. zthe movie appearance wasn't much longer than that little bit I remembered but since imdb.com existed by the time I saw the movie, I could look it up.
It was "With a Girl Like You" by the Troggs, which was their 3rd best charting hit in the US. Oldies stations only play their top 2 hits, Wild Thing and Love is All Around.
I have quite a few of these.
One that still stumps me, because it somehow escaped the entire internet, is a yodeling song, beginning with the lyrics:
"The day is dawning on a summer morning, not a feather in the southern sky..."
Try finding it with just that to go on. Impossible, as far as I know. I don't even know the author, only that it gets stuck in my head every once in a while and I used to listen to it all the time maybe 7-8 years ago.
Years ago, when I was in high school, I heard a song once on Lexington's WKQQ-FM, which at the time was an AOR and classic rock station but later became mostly a classic rock-only station. I only heard the song once, but it stuck in my mind. I remembered the name of it being "Five Knuckle Shuffle" but didn't get the name of the group that performed it.
Fast-forward to decades later, when the Internet became a thing. For years, Google and other search engines proved fruitless, but suddenly the results went live. The song was done by a group called Liar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar_(band)). I actually found the album it was on ("Set The World On Fire") available for download on Amazon, and it remains one of the few albums I've purchased digitally only and don't have a hard copy (album, cassette or CD).
Many, many years ago, 28 to be exact, my wife and I lived in West Bend, Wisconsin. We used to take our two kids to this cheap pizza place because 1. it was cheap, 2. it was a good walking distance pushing a couple of strollers, and 3. it was fast.
A few years ago, we were trying to remember the name of the place. It was driving us crazy for days and all sorts of Google searches wasn't geting us what we wanted. One evening we had this exchange.
My wife: Watch it be something simple...like Dick's.
Me: Uh...I think that's it.
My wife: Holy sh*t!!
https://onmilwaukee.com/dining/articles/dickspizza.html
Is there anyone out there who does not consider Shazam to be the single greatest cell phone app that has ever been devised?
:nod:
There have been numerous songs over the years that for at least a little while have completely stumped me (ie, High Enough by Damn Yankees), but as best as I know they have all since been identified.
Mike
There's a song I've been trying to identify that was played on the radio around 1980 but I've never been able to identify it. I don't remember any of the words, just some of the music. If I was better at reading or writing music, I could post the letters for it. I don't want to humiliate myself by humming it and posting it on YouTube.
Also, around 1978-79, there was some Styx-like song where the first line was something about "the 21st century." I've never been able to identify it.
Quote from: mgk920 on June 01, 2020, 03:03:59 PM
Is there anyone out there who does not consider Shazam to be the single greatest cell phone app that has ever been devised?
....
What is the app and what does it do?
(I guess I just answered your question.)
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 01, 2020, 05:11:42 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on June 01, 2020, 03:03:59 PM
Is there anyone out there who does not consider Shazam to be the single greatest cell phone app that has ever been devised?
....
What is the app and what does it do?
(I guess I just answered your question.)
Surely you're joking. Have you been living under a rock? :-D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shazam_(application) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shazam_(application))
"
Shazam identifies songs based on an audio fingerprint based on a time-frequency graph called a spectrogram. It uses a smartphone or computer's built-in microphone to gather a brief sample of audio being played"
Probably one of the biggest leaps for music in decades.
Quote from: jakeroot on June 01, 2020, 05:27:38 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 01, 2020, 05:11:42 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on June 01, 2020, 03:03:59 PM
Is there anyone out there who does not consider Shazam to be the single greatest cell phone app that has ever been devised?
....
What is the app and what does it do?
(I guess I just answered your question.)
Surely you're joking. Have you been living under a rock? :-D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shazam_(application)
I figured it out from context, but I would not have known otherwise.
WAIT WAIT WAIT
There are people without Shazam on their phones? Is it because you guys haven't heard of it? Or because you don't listen to music? Or what?
There are hermits amongst us.
Quote from: jakeroot on June 01, 2020, 05:30:04 PM
WAIT WAIT WAIT
There are people without Shazam on their phones? Is it because you guys haven't heard of it? Or because you don't listen to music? Or what?
There are hermits amongst us.
Siri does it without requiring an app.
Quote from: jakeroot on June 01, 2020, 05:27:38 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 01, 2020, 05:11:42 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on June 01, 2020, 03:03:59 PM
Is there anyone out there who does not consider Shazam to be the single greatest cell phone app that has ever been devised?
....
What is the app and what does it do?
(I guess I just answered your question.)
Surely you're joking. Have you been living under a rock? :-D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shazam_(application) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shazam_(application))
"Shazam identifies songs based on an audio fingerprint based on a time-frequency graph called a spectrogram. It uses a smartphone or computer's built-in microphone to gather a brief sample of audio being played"
Probably one of the biggest leaps for music in decades.
I'm looking at my age compared to yours and 1's. Why is it a surprise that I might not know about a particular app? I don't generally stream music, either, other than sometimes using a Logitech Squeezebox Touch here in my home office to play high-rez music I already own via a stereo system through a pair of Wharfedale speakers that are a lot bigger (and sound a lot better) than the small speakers attached to my PC (which are Boston Acoustics and are decent little speakers, but they can't compare to the Wharfedale's).
Many songs in a foreign language that I hear can be hard to find again.
Quote from: 1 on June 01, 2020, 05:34:27 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 01, 2020, 05:30:04 PM
WAIT WAIT WAIT
There are people without Shazam on their phones? Is it because you guys haven't heard of it? Or because you don't listen to music? Or what?
There are hermits amongst us.
Siri does it without requiring an app.
Well after Shazam was invented. And only because Apple bought Shazam.
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 01, 2020, 05:50:57 PM
I'm looking at my age compared to yours and 1's. Why is it a surprise that I might not know about a particular app? I don't generally stream music, either, other than sometimes using a Logitech Squeezebox Touch here in my home office to play high-rez music I already own via a stereo system through a pair of Wharfedale speakers that are a lot bigger (and sound a lot better) than the small speakers attached to my PC (which are Boston Acoustics and are decent little speakers, but they can't compare to the Wharfedale's).
You gotta get past age as being some sort of handicap. I know just as many people in their 70s and 80s with iPhones as I do people my age. My grandfather is on his 3rd iPhone and he's 80. And yes, he has Shazam on his phone. And, I mean, you're not even 50. You're not old. I'm only half your age.
The purpose of Shazam is to identify music that you hear in the car, in public spaces, in restaurants, etc. Nothing to do with streaming music. It's extremely helpful, and basically supplants the days of calling a radio station to identify a previously-played song, or hoping that the restaurant you're visiting has actual soundtrack, and a manager can identify the song that just played. And so on. It's nothing to be stubborn about. It's literally a giant button that you press, and it identifies the music.
Why do you assume I don't have an iPhone? I have one, plus two iPads. My point in citing age was simply that I'd be less likely to be interested in using it the same way you are, which I don't think would be a surprise. One of the apps I found most useful for a good while was "Days From," a court deadline calculator (less useful now because Siri can tell you how many days is "x" days from a given date).
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 01, 2020, 08:20:37 PM
Why do you assume I don't have an iPhone? I have one, plus two iPads. My point in citing age was simply that I'd be less likely to be interested in using it the same way you are, which I don't think would be a surprise. One of the apps I found most useful for a good while was "Days From," a court deadline calculator (less useful now because Siri can tell you how many days is "x" days from a given date).
Now I'm even more confused!! :-D This was from three years ago...
Forbes:
Shazam Has Now Been Downloaded One Billion Times (https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2016/09/29/shazam-has-now-been-downloaded-one-billion-times/#2cdf15ad367c)Quote
The company revealed today that it has now been downloaded over one billion times by users around the world, easily making it one of the most downloaded apps of all time. Shazam has been quickly acquiring users over the years thanks mostly to the fact that it stood out from the crowded app space thanks to its specific use. It filled a void that needed filling at a time when nothing else even came close, and its user base has grown organically since then.
Not using it, or not having a use for it, is one thing. Not even having heard of it is something entirely different.
I have apps that are very specific, especially for GIS-related work, but Shazam appeals to everyone who listens to music. Which is basically everyone, no?
I was a bit late to the Shazam game, but I finally got it and it's great. Now if only they had an upgrade that could identify songs from me humming them or poorly singing incorrect lyrics....
See, what I think jakeroot doesn't seem to understand is that if I'm at home, I don't need an app to tell me what music I'm hearing because I selected it. If I'm in the car and I hear something I don't know and I want to find out what it is, I hit the dashboard button that displays the song info on the display (artist and title) since I'm usually listening to XM. So for me there's no need for that sort of app. The main place where I hear music I don't know is at hockey games, but I dislike most of what they play because a lot of it is just noise. (At Nationals games, the video board displays the artist and title for each player's walk-up music, although for the most part I don't share much musical taste with most of the players either.)
Anyone else remember "Romeo's Tune"? I remember it being on the radio all the time around 1980, but I never knew what it was called and didn't hear it again for years. I thought I was just imagining it, until the early '90s when Shadoe Stevens played a piece of it on 'American Top 40' and said what it was called.
Another song I want to identify is a song where the chorus went, "Crazy..." It was a female modern rock song around 1996 or 1997.
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 01, 2020, 09:04:34 PM
See, what I think jakeroot doesn't seem to understand is that if I'm at home, I don't need an app to tell me what music I'm hearing because I selected it. If I'm in the car and I hear something I don't know and I want to find out what it is, I hit the dashboard button that displays the song info on the display (artist and title) since I'm usually listening to XM. So for me there's no need for that sort of app. The main place where I hear music I don't know is at hockey games, but I dislike most of what they play because a lot of it is just noise. (At Nationals games, the video board displays the artist and title for each player's walk-up music, although for the most part I don't share much musical taste with most of the players either.)
I thought the same too a couple of years ago. But it's really for something you might hear in the background at a restaurant, store, etc. There was one song I heard somewhere that I liked and wished I could find out what it was. Then I remembered everyone going jakeroot over Shazam, so I downloaded it. I don't use it that often, but occasionally it's useful to track down a song. It works pretty good even with other background noise.
Quote from: jakeroot on June 01, 2020, 08:34:01 PM
Shazam appeals to everyone who listens to music. Which is basically everyone, no?
Not to add to your apparent shock, but count me among those who had not heard of Shazam until this very thread.
I do listen to music, but mostly on the computer, not my phone. I've never had a problem with just typing in the title or some lyrics to find a song I'm looking for. Then again, I probably use a computer a lot more and my phone a lot less than most other people. (My phone is usually still above 85% battery by the end of the work day, if that says anything...)
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 01, 2020, 08:20:37 PM
One of the apps I found most useful for a good while was "Days From," a court deadline calculator (less useful now because Siri can tell you how many days is "x" days from a given date).
Maybe I'm missing some context here, but unless you're talking about time frames of a year plus, I can usually do that in my head.
Quote from: bandit957 on June 01, 2020, 09:10:41 PM
Anyone else remember "Romeo's Tune"? I remember it being on the radio all the time around 1980, but I never knew what it was called and didn't hear it again for years. I thought I was just imagining it, until the early '90s when Shadoe Stevens played a piece of it on 'American Top 40' and said what it was called.
I do. Written and performed by Steve Forbert. Since you mentioned it, I am now listening to it on YouTube.
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on June 01, 2020, 09:53:30 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 01, 2020, 09:04:34 PM
See, what I think jakeroot doesn't seem to understand is that if I'm at home, I don't need an app to tell me what music I'm hearing because I selected it. If I'm in the car and I hear something I don't know and I want to find out what it is, I hit the dashboard button that displays the song info on the display (artist and title) since I'm usually listening to XM. So for me there's no need for that sort of app. The main place where I hear music I don't know is at hockey games, but I dislike most of what they play because a lot of it is just noise. (At Nationals games, the video board displays the artist and title for each player's walk-up music, although for the most part I don't share much musical taste with most of the players either.)
I thought the same too a couple of years ago. But it's really for something you might hear in the background at a restaurant, store, etc. There was one song I heard somewhere that I liked and wished I could find out what it was. Then I remembered everyone going jakeroot over Shazam, so I downloaded it. I don't use it that often, but occasionally it's useful to track down a song. It works pretty good even with other background noise.
I've become an adjective. Excellent!
I think you've hit it pretty well. It's not something that use every waking moment. You basically just use it on those rare occasions where you're out and music is playing, such as at restaurants, stores, shopping centers, festivals, parks, watching a movie or TV show, driving in the car and you just want to note the song you're listening to (the car will tell you who you're listening to, but Shazam will actually save it to your phone), so on and so forth. There are tons of uses for it. The best is when you're watching a YouTube video, and you are trying to identify a song in the background. It's great for that too.
I personally have an icon on my phone's home screen that allows me to launch it (bottom left) immediately into its scanning mode. I don't use it constantly because, yeah, I know most of the music that I listen to. But I would hate to hear a song while I'm out literally anywhere, and not have some program on my phone that could have easily told me what song was playing. Even if it was just Siri, it's not like a function that wouldn't be helpful at least once or twice. I find it hard to believe that we all don't occasionally hear a song while we're out that we want to either identify or at least remember the name of. It happens.
(https://i.imgur.com/8wYdGvj.jpg)
Quote from: bandit957 on June 01, 2020, 09:12:06 PM
Another song I want to identify is a song where the chorus went, "Crazy..." It was a female modern rock song around 1996 or 1997.
It is almost like you are playing "Name That Tune" with us. "Can you name that tune in one note?" :-D
Right now, no. :hmmm:
Quote from: webny99 on June 01, 2020, 10:24:00 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 01, 2020, 08:34:01 PM
Shazam appeals to everyone who listens to music. Which is basically everyone, no?
Not to add to your apparent shock, but count me among those who had not heard of Shazam until this very thread.
I do listen to music, but mostly on the computer, not my phone. I've never had a problem with just typing in the title or some lyrics to find a song I'm looking for. Then again, I probably use a computer a lot more and my phone a lot less than most other people. (My phone is usually still above 85% battery by the end of the work day, if that says anything...)
(https://media.giphy.com/media/5rrNwxL959hI3n2PAJ/giphy.gif)
I will do the same thing, but only if Shazam doesn't work. Which is certainly the case from time to time, especially with really obscure stuff. The thing for Shazam, for me, is that most songs don't go on forever. I don't always have time to sit and listen to the lyrics and hope I get them correct. Shazam really only needs 3 to 10 seconds to tell you exactly what you're listening to.
And again, I want to stress that this is not an application that I use non-stop. No one does, to my knowledge. It's an app you might use once per week.
I use my phone for a lot of stuff. I'm very active physically, and have an extensive library of music on my phone. I use it a lot when I run and walk, or when I'm driving and I want to stream some music. When I don't have my earbuds in, I always have my phone and sometimes want to identify music, and I use Shazam to do that.
Quote from: bandit957 on June 01, 2020, 09:12:06 PM
Another song I want to identify is a song where the chorus went, "Crazy..." It was a female modern rock song around 1996 or 1997.
"Crazy" by Booger Queen Davis? 1997, from her album
Blame It on Me.
https://youtu.be/g94UfAM1HmY
edit: music video
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on June 01, 2020, 08:45:54 PM
I was a bit late to the Shazam game, but I finally got it and it's great. Now if only they had an upgrade that could identify songs from me humming them or poorly singing incorrect lyrics....
I also like it due to it keeping a list of the titles that I've done searches on. It sure beats the small notecards that I kept in my wallet that I used for that purpose!
Mike
Quote from: amroad17 on June 01, 2020, 10:46:24 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on June 01, 2020, 09:12:06 PM
Another song I want to identify is a song where the chorus went, "Crazy..." It was a female modern rock song around 1996 or 1997.
It is almost like you are playing "Name That Tune" with us. "Can you name that tune in one note?" :-D
Right now, no. :hmmm:
The old Patsy Cline song "Crazy"? I wouldn't be surprised if someone made an updated cover of it.
Quote from: jakeroot on June 01, 2020, 10:44:37 PM
.... You basically just use it on those rare occasions where you're out and music is playing, such as at restaurants, stores, shopping centers, festivals, parks, watching a movie or TV show, driving in the car and you just want to note the song you're listening to (the car will tell you who you're listening to, but Shazam will actually save it to your phone), so on and so forth. ....
The
only time I can think of recently when that happened was at a ballgame several years ago (2014 or 2015, I think) and I turned to my brother and said "any idea what song this is?" He knew the answer. I tune out most of the background music at the stores, etc. They simply seldom play any music I'm interested in hearing, probably because for the most part they understandably try to play very bland and neutral stuff to ensure they don't offend anyone.
Quote from: webny99 on June 01, 2020, 10:24:00 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 01, 2020, 08:20:37 PM
One of the apps I found most useful for a good while was "Days From," a court deadline calculator (less useful now because Siri can tell you how many days is "x" days from a given date).
Maybe I'm missing some context here, but unless you're talking about time frames of a year plus, I can usually do that in my head.
That's nice that you're that confident in yourself, but when the consequences of missing a deadline are waiving something or defaulting, I'm not trusting myself to calculate it correctly in my head.
Or, as that Russian proverb President Reagan liked to quote says, "Trust, but verify."
Quote from: jakeroot on June 01, 2020, 10:54:02 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on June 01, 2020, 09:12:06 PM
Another song I want to identify is a song where the chorus went, "Crazy..." It was a female modern rock song around 1996 or 1997.
"Crazy" by Booger Queen Davis? 1997, from her album Blame It on Me.
That wasn't it. I don't remember ever hearing this.
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 02, 2020, 08:24:34 AM
Quote from: webny99 on June 01, 2020, 10:24:00 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 01, 2020, 08:20:37 PM
One of the apps I found most useful for a good while was "Days From," a court deadline calculator (less useful now because Siri can tell you how many days is "x" days from a given date).
Maybe I'm missing some context here, but unless you're talking about time frames of a year plus, I can usually do that in my head.
That's nice that you're that confident in yourself, but when the consequences of missing a deadline are waiving something or defaulting, I'm not trusting myself to calculate it correctly in my head.
Or, as that Russian proverb President Reagan liked to quote says, "Trust, but verify."
Well, for sure. I'm not going to double-check to make sure 30 days from now will indeed be July 2nd, for example, but anything over 90 days or so, and certainly a year plus, is a different story. (I guess I'm also used to these types of things being automatically calculated for the most part, so it never occurred to me that an app might be needed.)
Quote from: webny99 on June 02, 2020, 10:01:56 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 02, 2020, 08:24:34 AM
Quote from: webny99 on June 01, 2020, 10:24:00 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 01, 2020, 08:20:37 PM
One of the apps I found most useful for a good while was "Days From," a court deadline calculator (less useful now because Siri can tell you how many days is "x" days from a given date).
Maybe I'm missing some context here, but unless you're talking about time frames of a year plus, I can usually do that in my head.
That's nice that you're that confident in yourself, but when the consequences of missing a deadline are waiving something or defaulting, I'm not trusting myself to calculate it correctly in my head.
Or, as that Russian proverb President Reagan liked to quote says, "Trust, but verify."
Well, for sure. I'm not going to double-check to make sure 30 days from now will indeed be July 2nd, for example, but anything over 90 days or so, and certainly a year plus, is a different story. (I guess I'm also used to these types of things being automatically calculated for the most part, so it never occurred to me that an app might be needed.)
The other reason I like to have either an app or Siri do it for me is that it'll tell me the day of the week. Using the July 2 example, I just asked Siri when 30 days from that is and she said Saturday, August 1, 2020. That's relevant for me because if a deadline falls on a weekend or a federal holiday, it bumps to the following business day. I check these sorts of things when I'm preparing a draft order because I think it's sloppy to set a deadline on a weekend and I think it's obnoxious to set a deadline on the day after a holiday if I can avoid doing so.
Quote from: jakeroot on June 01, 2020, 05:30:04 PM
WAIT WAIT WAIT
There are people without Shazam on their phones? Is it because you guys haven't heard of it? Or because you don't listen to music? Or what?
There are hermits amongst us.
I didn't have Shazam on my phone. In fact, because my model has limited storage, I install very few apps.
My co-worker has an app on her phone that identifies songs like that, but I had no idea what it was called. I guess it's probably Shazam? :hmm:
But I have little need for that kind of thing. The times I listen to live radio are either (1) in the car, and most of the stations I listen to transmit the artist and title to my radio display, or (2) at work, where my co-worker chooses the station and knows almost all the songs. Most music I listen to is either on YouTube, a CD I own, or a streaming service; titles and artists are right there in front of me in all cases.
In the rare times that I don't know a song, want to know what it is, and don't have the info readily available, I just ask whoever is around me, and chances are good I'll get the answer that way.
Alright, how about we all just install Shazam on our phones if we don't have it already and then everyone will be happy and we can move on to another topic. There's font types on signs that are waiting for an argument that we can't get to if we're still stuck in this loop.
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on June 02, 2020, 02:56:47 PM
Alright, how about we all just install Shazam on our phones if we don't have it already
No, because...
Quote from: kphoger on June 02, 2020, 12:00:21 PM
I didn't have Shazam on my phone. In fact, because my model has limited storage, I install very few apps.
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 02, 2020, 08:24:34 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 01, 2020, 10:44:37 PM
.... You basically just use it on those rare occasions where you're out and music is playing, such as at restaurants, stores, shopping centers, festivals, parks, watching a movie or TV show, driving in the car and you just want to note the song you're listening to (the car will tell you who you're listening to, but Shazam will actually save it to your phone), so on and so forth. ....
The only time I can think of recently when that happened was at a ballgame several years ago (2014 or 2015, I think) and I turned to my brother and said "any idea what song this is?" He knew the answer. I tune out most of the background music at the stores, etc. They simply seldom play any music I'm interested in hearing, probably because for the most part they understandably try to play very bland and neutral stuff to ensure they don't offend anyone.
Alright, very well. I don't want to force the application on you. It's just to someone like myself, who not only likes the music I already have in my library, but am always looking to grow my library as well, it's a helpful way to not only identify music, but catalogue it as well. And, if we're going to take Apple's decision to not only buy Shazam, but then implement the feature directly into iOS, as an indication of its popularity, I'm certainly not alone in appreciating the technology.
Speaking more generally to everyone else who doesn't have a music identity service and/or relies solely on the kindness of others: I think you're weird! But, we're road guys, and we're all a little weird in our own ways.
Quote from: kphoger on June 02, 2020, 03:00:21 PM
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on June 02, 2020, 02:56:47 PM
Alright, how about we all just install Shazam on our phones if we don't have it already
No, because...
Quote from: kphoger on June 02, 2020, 12:00:21 PM
I didn't have Shazam on my phone. In fact, because my model has limited storage, I install very few apps.
Just delete the "phone" app to make up for the storage. Nobody uses a phone as a phone anymore anyways. It's there to send texts and surf the internet.
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on June 02, 2020, 03:18:43 PM
Just delete the "phone" app to make up for the storage. Nobody uses a phone as a phone anymore anyways. It's there to send texts and surf the internet.
I've had 9 phone conversations on my cell phone so far today, with more to come.
Granted, it's an unusual day, with my car in the shop. I've been talking to the mechanic, my wife, and a friend–all about the repairs. No phone conversations yesterday (despite five attempts by scammers), one conversation the day before that.
On my phone, Shazam, with all of the tagged songs that I have (300 to 400 since I purchased my phone in Sep 2018), only takes up 38.46 MB. Other apps that I use regularly, such as Facebook, Snapchat, and my notes app, take up infinitely more space on my phone, but I also have over 400GB of storage space with my internal storage space and a micro SD card so everything's a drop in the bucket.
(https://i.imgur.com/oZeScR0.jpg)
Quote from: jakeroot on June 02, 2020, 03:31:57 PM
On my phone, Shazam, with all of the tagged songs that I have (300 to 400 since I purchased my phone in Sep 2018), only takes up 38.46 MB. Other apps that I use regularly, such as Facebook, Snapchat, and my notes app, take up infinitely more space on my phone, but I also have over 400GB of storage space with my internal storage space and a micro SD card so everything's a drop in the bucket.
(https://i.imgur.com/oZeScR0.jpg)
That is quite small. Maybe I'll consider it.
For what it's worth, here are my phone stats:
16.00 GB = Total internal storage
12.30 GB = Total internal storage being used
3.87 GB = Total internal storage being used by apps
3.70 GB = Free internal storage
Quote from: bandit957 on June 01, 2020, 05:03:02 PM
Also, around 1978-79, there was some Styx-like song where the first line was something about "the 21st century." I've never been able to identify it.
April Wine's cover of "21st Century Schizoid Man" from the album that had "I Like To Rock" on it?
Quote from: hbelkins on June 02, 2020, 03:49:52 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on June 01, 2020, 05:03:02 PM
Also, around 1978-79, there was some Styx-like song where the first line was something about "the 21st century." I've never been able to identify it.
April Wine's cover of "21st Century Schizoid Man" from the album that had "I Like To Rock" on it?
I found this on YouTube, and that wasn't it.
Quote from: bandit957 on June 02, 2020, 05:33:28 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on June 02, 2020, 03:49:52 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on June 01, 2020, 05:03:02 PM
Also, around 1978-79, there was some Styx-like song where the first line was something about "the 21st century." I've never been able to identify it.
April Wine's cover of "21st Century Schizoid Man" from the album that had "I Like To Rock" on it?
I found this on YouTube, and that wasn't it.
How about ELO's "21st Century Man" from 1981.
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on June 02, 2020, 05:55:50 PM
How about ELO's "21st Century Man" from 1981.
The song I remember was earlier.
I think it was an FM rock type of song but I'm pretty sure the big local FM pop station played it, so it may well have charted.
Quote from: kphoger on June 02, 2020, 03:44:17 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 02, 2020, 03:31:57 PM
On my phone, Shazam, with all of the tagged songs that I have (300 to 400 since I purchased my phone in Sep 2018), only takes up 38.46 MB. Other apps that I use regularly, such as Facebook, Snapchat, and my notes app, take up infinitely more space on my phone, but I also have over 400GB of storage space with my internal storage space and a micro SD card so everything's a drop in the bucket.
(https://i.imgur.com/oZeScR0.jpg)
That is quite small. Maybe I'll consider it.
For what it's worth, here are my phone stats:
16.00 GB = Total internal storage
12.30 GB = Total internal storage being used
3.87 GB = Total internal storage being used by apps
3.70 GB = Free internal storage
That's definitely a storage space I'm not sure I could handle. But the application is pretty small, and it has helped on so many occasions that I'm not sure I could justify, with the small amount of space it takes up,
not having it on my phone, even if I only used it a couple times per season. It would prevent from having to pull a
bandit957* and hoping people can help me identify a track that I heard but didn't note.
*I'm aware that it was a different era when he heard these songs, but that era also didn't have a song-identifying application to make life easier.
Quote from: bandit957 on June 02, 2020, 05:57:33 PM
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on June 02, 2020, 05:55:50 PM
How about ELO's "21st Century Man" from 1981.
The song I remember was earlier.
I think it was an FM rock type of song but I'm pretty sure the big local FM pop station played it, so it may well have charted.
OK - what if it came out a few years earlier and was one century off in subject matter: Rush - 2112.
It would have fit perfectly on pop radio, too!
Quote from: jakeroot on June 02, 2020, 06:29:31 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 02, 2020, 03:44:17 PM
That is quite small. Maybe I'll consider it.
For what it's worth, here are my phone stats:
16.00 GB = Total internal storage
12.30 GB = Total internal storage being used
3.87 GB = Total internal storage being used by apps
3.70 GB = Free internal storage
That's definitely a storage space I'm not sure I could handle.
It's the main down-side of my phone. However, my criteria when shopping for a phone are not what they are for most people. My two primary criteria are that the phone (1) have GSM roaming capability and (2) have a replaceable battery. Just those two criteria alone severely limit the number of models to choose from when it comes to phone shopping time. Secondarily, I look for a phone with a decent camera, but that's nowhere near as important as the first two criteria.
Quote from: jakeroot on June 02, 2020, 06:29:31 PM
But the application is pretty small, and it has helped on so many occasions that I'm not sure I could justify, with the small amount of space it takes up, not having it on my phone, even if I only used it a couple times per season. It would prevent from having to pull a bandit957* and hoping people can help me identify a track that I heard but didn't note.
*I'm aware that it was a different era when he heard these songs, but that era also didn't have a song-identifying application to make life easier.
Except that it wouldn't help
bandit957 anyway, because he's trying to remember a song that he heard on the radio decades ago. I'm pretty sure Shazam can't come up with a title for
that!
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on June 02, 2020, 06:31:16 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on June 02, 2020, 05:57:33 PM
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on June 02, 2020, 05:55:50 PM
How about ELO's "21st Century Man" from 1981.
The song I remember was earlier.
I think it was an FM rock type of song but I'm pretty sure the big local FM pop station played it, so it may well have charted.
OK - what if it came out a few years earlier and was one century off in subject matter: Rush - 2112.
It would have fit perfectly on pop radio, too!
"2112" was an entire album side. No DJ would play that unless they needed to take an extremely long dump.
Some compilations have included "Overture" and "The Temples of Syrinx" as an individual cut, but I'm not sure that ever got any play on a pop station, or even an AOR station.
Quote from: kphoger on June 03, 2020, 10:10:37 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 02, 2020, 06:29:31 PM
But the application is pretty small, and it has helped on so many occasions that I'm not sure I could justify, with the small amount of space it takes up, not having it on my phone, even if I only used it a couple times per season. It would prevent from having to pull a bandit957* and hoping people can help me identify a track that I heard but didn't note.
*I'm aware that it was a different era when he heard these songs, but that era also didn't have a song-identifying application to make life easier.
Except that it wouldn't help bandit957 anyway, because he's trying to remember a song that he heard on the radio decades ago. I'm pretty sure Shazam can't come up with a title for that!
I'm aware of that. Note my second line. My point was that, by and large, the era of humming and singing, trying to remember lyrics, is
largely over since you can just tag the song when you hear it the first time.
It's actually interesting because another app, Soundhound, also allows you to hum and sing to it, and it can identify the track based on that alone. I don't know how effective it is, but it's an interesting advancement for sure.
Quote from: kphoger on June 03, 2020, 10:10:37 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 02, 2020, 06:29:31 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 02, 2020, 03:44:17 PM
That is quite small. Maybe I'll consider it.
For what it's worth, here are my phone stats:
16.00 GB = Total internal storage
12.30 GB = Total internal storage being used
3.87 GB = Total internal storage being used by apps
3.70 GB = Free internal storage
That's definitely a storage space I'm not sure I could handle.
It's the main down-side of my phone. However, my criteria when shopping for a phone are not what they are for most people. My two primary criteria are that the phone (1) have GSM roaming capability and (2) have a replaceable battery. Just those two criteria alone severely limit the number of models to choose from when it comes to phone shopping time. Secondarily, I look for a phone with a decent camera, but that's nowhere near as important as the first two criteria.
Honestly, I didn't even think they still made phones with removable batteries. I guess the good news for you is that battery technology is advancing relatively fast with the advent of electric vehicles, so you should be able to get a phone without a removable battery but with a massive charge relatively soon.
Quote from: jakeroot on June 03, 2020, 05:06:04 PM
I'm aware of that. Note my second line. My point was that, by and large, the era of humming and singing, trying to remember lyrics, is largely over since you can just tag the song when you hear it the first time.
We might be talking past each other. I meant that, thirty years from now, if I'm stumped trying to figure out what song I heard this month, it won't help me that Shazam was available in 2020.
Quote from: jakeroot on June 03, 2020, 05:06:04 PM
Honestly, I didn't even think they still made phones with removable batteries.
I've already replaced my battery once. Frankly, I think it's a crock that any cell phone
not have a replaceable battery.
Quote from: hbelkins on June 03, 2020, 12:48:40 PM
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on June 02, 2020, 06:31:16 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on June 02, 2020, 05:57:33 PM
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on June 02, 2020, 05:55:50 PM
How about ELO's "21st Century Man" from 1981.
The song I remember was earlier.
I think it was an FM rock type of song but I'm pretty sure the big local FM pop station played it, so it may well have charted.
OK - what if it came out a few years earlier and was one century off in subject matter: Rush - 2112.
It would have fit perfectly on pop radio, too!
"2112" was an entire album side. No DJ would play that unless they needed to take an extremely long dump.
Some compilations have included "Overture" and "The Temples of Syrinx" as an individual cut, but I'm not sure that ever got any play on a pop station, or even an AOR station.
What? At nearly 21 minutes long, it's the perfect radio single length. Hummable melodies, a beat you can dance to, and the ladies love it too (all 3 of them). This of course excludes women like my wife, who only came along because she bought me tickets as a birthday gift, because I mentioned that I was a fan back in my high school days and had seen them on the Presto tour. Good thing I got to see them again 17 or so years later, though, before Peart passed.
Quote from: kphoger on June 03, 2020, 05:16:58 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 03, 2020, 05:06:04 PM
I'm aware of that. Note my second line. My point was that, by and large, the era of humming and singing, trying to remember lyrics, is largely over since you can just tag the song when you hear it the first time.
We might be talking past each other. I meant that, thirty years from now, if I'm stumped trying to figure out what song I heard this month, it won't help me that Shazam was available in 2020.
I gotcha. I hadn't considered that because, with having Shazam (or SoundHound) for so long now, I haven't had those unknown songs burning a hole in my head like many that are older than me.
Quote from: kphoger on June 03, 2020, 05:16:58 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 03, 2020, 05:06:04 PM
Honestly, I didn't even think they still made phones with removable batteries.
I've already replaced my battery once. Frankly, I think it's a crock that any cell phone not have a replaceable battery.
I don't think the manufacturers can justify it, especially when you consider how Average Joe uses their phone: plug in at night, regular to moderate to usage during the day; most phones can get people through a day, especially with how often people have access to a plug (work, home, car,
bus (https://seattletransitblog.com/2018/10/16/community-transit-adds-usb-ports-and-chooses-diesel-for-its-buses/), train, etc). Plus, non-removable batteries allow for IP-68 ratings
and larger overall batteries that don't have to shrink to fit mechanics that would otherwise allow it to be removable. The batteries can vary in size and shape as well, if they don't need to be removable, and they allow phones to be thinner and lighter.
Quote from: jakeroot on June 03, 2020, 07:19:57 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 03, 2020, 05:16:58 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 03, 2020, 05:06:04 PM
Honestly, I didn't even think they still made phones with removable batteries.
I've already replaced my battery once. Frankly, I think it's a crock that any cell phone not have a replaceable battery.
I don't think the manufacturers can justify it, especially when you consider how Average Joe uses their phone: plug in at night, regular to moderate to usage during the day; most phones can get people through a day, especially with how often people have access to a plug (work, home, car, bus (https://seattletransitblog.com/2018/10/16/community-transit-adds-usb-ports-and-chooses-diesel-for-its-buses/), train, etc). Plus, non-removable batteries allow for IP-68 ratings and larger overall batteries that don't have to shrink to fit mechanics that would otherwise allow it to be removable. The batteries can vary in size and shape as well, if they don't need to be removable, and they allow phones to be thinner and lighter.
Is the main concern the battery going bad or having a charged spare if you run out? I would rather an easily replaceable battery too, but I accept that most phones don't have this anymore, and certainly not the Iphone which I have and like. The battery can still be replaced, but it's just not as easy as popping it out - You can have the pros do it, or probably just watch a Youtube video on it - and it's more expensive. For my previous work phone, an Iphone 6, the battery was failing (I could watch the charge percentage drop like seconds ticking down) and we debated a new battery but opted to just replace it with a new Iphone since I had already had it for a number of years. For a charged spare, they do have portable power banks.
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on June 03, 2020, 10:15:02 PM
For my previous work phone, an Iphone 6, the battery was failing (I could watch the charge percentage drop like seconds ticking down) and we debated a new battery but opted to just replace it with a new Iphone since I had already had it for a number of years.
And this is what I think is the real reason manufacturers don't make many phones with replaceable batteries. $20 on Amazon for a new battery
vs buying a whole new phone from your provider: which choice would the manufacturer prefer you make?
Quote from: kphoger on June 04, 2020, 10:31:54 AM
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on June 03, 2020, 10:15:02 PM
For my previous work phone, an Iphone 6, the battery was failing (I could watch the charge percentage drop like seconds ticking down) and we debated a new battery but opted to just replace it with a new Iphone since I had already had it for a number of years.
And this is what I think is the real reason manufacturers don't make many phones with replaceable batteries. $20 on Amazon for a new battery vs buying a whole new phone from your provider: which choice would the manufacturer prefer you make?
There are definitely profits to be made in non-removable batteries. But that's just the nature of a consumer-based society: if we show interest in one or more things that are given to use by non-removable batteries, such as longer overall full-to-dead charge times, or thinner phones, manufacturers are definitely going to head in that direction,
especially if, by forcing users to have the OEM replace the battery to keep the warranty going, they make some significant profits.
I will fully admit that my primary interest in upgrading my phone either once per year or once every two years is because the batteries start to go out. But there are many other reasons to replace a phone, such as better cameras, better screens, safer unlock techniques, larger batteries, faster internals, etc. These are less important issues for iPhone users because there's only so many iPhones, but two years of Android phone releases could mean 100+ new devices; naturally there are going to be advancements with that many phones to perhaps consider upgrading for reasons other than a removable battery.
I like how this thread morphed from music to phone batteries. /s
Quote from: renegade on June 04, 2020, 03:00:52 PM
I like how this thread morphed from music to phone batteries. /s
Welcome to AA Roads ;)
Quote from: renegade on June 04, 2020, 03:00:52 PM
I like how this thread morphed from music to phone batteries. /s
Aren't you a pleasant guy?
Quote from: bandit957 on June 02, 2020, 05:57:33 PM
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on June 02, 2020, 05:55:50 PM
How about ELO's "21st Century Man" from 1981.
The song I remember was earlier.
I think it was an FM rock type of song but I'm pretty sure the big local FM pop station played it, so it may well have charted.
When you say FM rock, do you mean songs that would get played on FM rock stations, or an entirely distinct sub-genre within rock?
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on June 04, 2020, 11:42:56 PM
When you say FM rock, do you mean songs that would get played on FM rock stations, or an entirely distinct sub-genre within rock?
Mostly songs that would be played on AOR (album oriented rock) stations.
Quote from: bandit957 on June 05, 2020, 07:51:38 AM
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on June 04, 2020, 11:42:56 PM
When you say FM rock, do you mean songs that would get played on FM rock stations, or an entirely distinct sub-genre within rock?
Mostly songs that would be played on AOR (album oriented rock) stations.
Could the song in question be classified as Yacht Rock as well? I stumbled upon the Yacht Rock channel on Sirius XM where they play the following:
1. "Sailing" by Christopher Cross
2. Songs where Michael McDonald is the lead singer or does at least background vocals
Quote from: US71 on June 04, 2020, 07:53:51 PM
Quote from: renegade on June 04, 2020, 03:00:52 PM
I like how this thread morphed from music to phone batteries. /s
Welcome to AA Roads ;)
The way you check if a 9V battery has charge still fits the thread title :-)
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on June 05, 2020, 11:37:52 AM
Quote from: bandit957 on June 05, 2020, 07:51:38 AM
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on June 04, 2020, 11:42:56 PM
When you say FM rock, do you mean songs that would get played on FM rock stations, or an entirely distinct sub-genre within rock?
Mostly songs that would be played on AOR (album oriented rock) stations.
Could the song in question be classified as Yacht Rock as well? I stumbled upon the Yacht Rock channel on Sirius XM where they play the following:
1. "Sailing" by Christopher Cross
2. Songs where Michael McDonald is the lead singer or does at least background vocals
It wasn't as soft. It was more like Styx, Rush, or Kansas.
Anyone remember a song called "Boom Boom"? Not the Paul Lekakis song, but a different one. It came out around 1984, but I don't think it even charted.
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on June 01, 2020, 08:45:54 PM
I was a bit late to the Shazam game, but I finally got it and it's great. Now if only they had an upgrade that could identify songs from me humming them or poorly singing incorrect lyrics....
Have you tried Sound Hound? There's also this web site (https://www.midomi.com/), that I've used with success.
Quote from: bandit957 on August 14, 2020, 05:01:02 PM
Anyone remember a song called "Boom Boom"? Not the Paul Lekakis song, but a different one. It came out around 1984, but I don't think it even charted.
This one?
Quote from: jakeroot on June 04, 2020, 02:40:45 PM
I will fully admit that my primary interest in upgrading my phone either once per year or once every two years is because the batteries start to go out. But there are many other reasons to replace a phone, such as better cameras, better screens, safer unlock techniques, larger batteries, faster internals, etc. These are less important issues for iPhone users because there's only so many iPhones, but two years of Android phone releases could mean 100+ new devices; naturally there are going to be advancements with that many phones to perhaps consider upgrading for reasons other than a removable battery.
Once per
year? If I did that I'd never have any money...
I get annoyed if my phone starts acting up before the 4-year mark.
Quote from: hbelkins on August 14, 2020, 08:01:35 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on August 14, 2020, 05:01:02 PM
Anyone remember a song called "Boom Boom"? Not the Paul Lekakis song, but a different one. It came out around 1984, but I don't think it even charted.
This one?
I was able to find it last night searching an online collection of Billboard magazines. It was "Boom Boom" by Trio.
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 14, 2020, 09:03:23 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 04, 2020, 02:40:45 PM
I will fully admit that my primary interest in upgrading my phone either once per year or once every two years is because the batteries start to go out. But there are many other reasons to replace a phone, such as better cameras, better screens, safer unlock techniques, larger batteries, faster internals, etc. These are less important issues for iPhone users because there's only so many iPhones, but two years of Android phone releases could mean 100+ new devices; naturally there are going to be advancements with that many phones to perhaps consider upgrading for reasons other than a removable battery.
Once per year? If I did that I'd never have any money...
I get annoyed if my phone starts acting up before the 4-year mark.
Virtually all carriers offer plans that allow annual upgrades. You pay off half the phone, and you trade up to something else. Sales tax is paid up-front, plus a down-payment depending on your credit, and your bill includes the cost of the phone (minus sales tax and any down payment) divided over 24 months. Finding really good phones for $15/month or less (over 24 months) is not difficult.
For some people, this is insane, because they like phone bills that are like $60-80 or less. With this style of plan, you're talking around $100+/month. This is something I'm comfortable with, because my phone is always really good, covered by some sort of warranty and insurance, and has the latest features that I personally enjoy. Nevermind not having to worry about dropping or breaking my phone, getting something repaired by some weird third party, struggling with a crap battery or broken cameras, etc. It's just worth it to me, especially since unlike a car payment, I don't ever see myself not having a phone bill.
Doing all the math there...yeah, I wouldn't have any money.
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 18, 2020, 02:44:05 PM
Doing all the math there...yeah, I wouldn't have any money.
It also helps to be part of a family plan. Not sure if this is the case for you or not, but it substantially cuts down on the cost per user.
I seem to start running into trouble with my phone charger around the one year mark, to the point where I've decided anything over a year is borrowed time. It's just a matter of time before I have high usage one day and let it fall below 5%... and then it will die completely before I can force it to start charging, and that's the end of that phone.
Quote from: webny99 on August 19, 2020, 10:25:09 PM
I seem to start running into trouble with my phone charger around the one year mark, to the point where I've decided anything over a year is borrowed time. It's just a matter of time before I have high usage one day and let it fall below 5%... and then it will die completely before I can force it to start charging, and that's the end of that phone.
Pretty much all the phone chargers (Iphones/Ipad) we've had for charging at home have fallen apart. It seems like I'm always buying new ones. At the same time, I'm always grabbing them from a bin at Walmart, so I get what I pay for.
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on August 19, 2020, 11:34:42 PM
Quote from: webny99 on August 19, 2020, 10:25:09 PM
I seem to start running into trouble with my phone charger around the one year mark, to the point where I've decided anything over a year is borrowed time. It's just a matter of time before I have high usage one day and let it fall below 5%... and then it will die completely before I can force it to start charging, and that's the end of that phone.
Pretty much all the phone chargers (Iphones/Ipad) we've had for charging at home have fallen apart. It seems like I'm always buying new ones. At the same time, I'm always grabbing them from a bin at Walmart, so I get what I pay for.
My problem isn't with the charger... it's with increasingly poor connection between phone and charger. I wonder if it's gradual dust build up or something.
Quote from: jakeroot on August 18, 2020, 05:10:07 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 18, 2020, 02:44:05 PM
Doing all the math there...yeah, I wouldn't have any money.
It also helps to be part of a family plan. Not sure if this is the case for you or not, but it substantially cuts down on the cost per user.
I don't have a family. Should I start one to get cell phone discounts?
Quote from: webny99 on August 19, 2020, 10:25:09 PM
I seem to start running into trouble with my phone charger around the one year mark, to the point where I've decided anything over a year is borrowed time. It's just a matter of time before I have high usage one day and let it fall below 5%... and then it will die completely before I can force it to start charging, and that's the end of that phone.
I have the opposite problem right now–I can charge my phone, but cannot get it to go above 85%, no matter how long I leave it on the charger.
I've had to replace the battery in my iPhone twice now. The last time, the battery had actually swollen up and was causing the case to bulge a bit.
As for phone chargers, I've been seeing a lot of ads for testing programs on Facebook. These companies will advance you the money to buy and test their cables. To date, I think I've gotten 25 or 30 cables this year free of charge, and I have two more packages on the way. All you have to do is review the products on Amazon. I only deal with the companies that prepay (via PayPal); there are some who wait for you to give them a good review before they reimburse. I don't deal with them because I want to give an honest review; a less-than-stellar review would probably mean the company won't reimburse you.
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 20, 2020, 02:46:03 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 18, 2020, 05:10:07 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 18, 2020, 02:44:05 PM
Doing all the math there...yeah, I wouldn't have any money.
It also helps to be part of a family plan. Not sure if this is the case for you or not, but it substantially cuts down on the cost per user.
I don't have a family. Should I start one to get cell phone discounts?
Well clearly. What's the hold-up?
I'm on plan with my father, his girlfriend, a cousin, and one of my aunts. Just start
grooming combining people until you get the discounts :-D
Quote from: webny99 on August 20, 2020, 11:31:48 AM
My problem isn't with the charger... it's with increasingly poor connection between phone and charger. I wonder if it's gradual dust build up or something.
Same here. With my current phone/charger, I have to plug it in, then shift the plug at an angle to the right. If I plug it straight in, it often doesn't actually make connection to charge up.