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Title: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: ibthebigd on February 01, 2020, 06:26:41 AM
What Interstate is most pressing to be built or completed.

I think I-11 between Las Vegas and Phoenix should be up there.

If it's even possible for I-11 from Las Vegas to Reno also.

I-69 completion to Houston should be considered also.

SM-G950U

Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: -- US 175 -- on February 01, 2020, 06:54:28 AM
* I-27: more (if not all) in both directions
* I-45: farther north, at least to Sherman or Durant
* I-49: remaining parts
* I-69: as much of (if not all of) remaining parts
* US 287 corridor: between Amarillo and Fort Worth
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: TheOneKEA on February 01, 2020, 07:02:01 AM
I-70 should be extended from the Baltimore City line to the former I-170 stub in West Baltimore.

It will never, ever happen, though.
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: sprjus4 on February 01, 2020, 07:41:59 AM
This would be better off as a Fictional Highways thread...

...Nonetheless...

- Extension of I-97 along the US-301 corridor from US-50 at Annapolis, MD to I-95 at Ruther Glen, VA.
- I-73 between Myrtle Beach, SC and I-81 at Roanoke, VA
- Interstate corridor along the US-74 corridor between I-26 at Columbus, NC and I-40 at Wilmington, NC.
- Interstate corridor along the US-17 corridor between I-64 at Chesapeake, VA and US-17 at Myrtle Beach, SC.
- I-69E between Brownsville, TX and US-77 at Victoria, TX (should be designated solely I-69)
- I-69C between McAllen, TX and I-37 at George West, TX (should be designed solely I-39, I-41, or I-43)
- I-69W between Freer, TX and Laredo, TX (should be designated solely I-4 or I-6)
- I-69 spur along the SH-44 corridor between SH-358 at Corpus Christi, TX and Freer, TX (should be designated solely I-4 or I-6)
- I-69 between US-77 at Victoria, TX and I-20 at Shreveport, LA.
- I-369 between US-59 at Tenaha, TX and I-30 at Texarkana, TX.
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: Max Rockatansky on February 01, 2020, 09:11:59 AM
I'd argue that I-11 isn't the priority it's cracked up to be given how much US 93 has improved this century.  Off the top of my head I'd say I-710 to I-210 but that's essentially been tendered a dead issue. 
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: hbelkins on February 01, 2020, 03:50:03 PM
I-58 between US 60 and I-64.  :D
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: Occidental Tourist on February 01, 2020, 04:32:55 PM
Interstate whatever (9?, 13?) between the Calexico East Point of Entry and the 10 in Indio.
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: sparker on February 01, 2020, 04:51:00 PM
I'd posit an extension of I-40 west from I-15 at Barstow through Bakersfield to I-5 would be the most useful out West; as an adjunct, I'd extend and sign CA 14 from that new route near Mojave down to I-5 as I-340, simply to provide a continuous Interstate-signed 2nd access point from the east into greater L.A. 
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on February 01, 2020, 04:32:55 PM
Interstate whatever (9?, 13?) between the Calexico East Point of Entry and the 10 in Indio.

That would be most useful if extended up CA 111, over CA 78, and then up CA 86 to I-10 near Indio; it would actually benefit I-10 traffic (both directions) by providing a full freeway path down to I-8 to serve as a functional Phoenix bypass.  What to number it? --  anyone's guess; 13's probably as good as any.
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: texaskdog on February 01, 2020, 06:06:10 PM
I-5 to Alaska

oh wait, I'm not Fritzowl!
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: RobbieL2415 on February 01, 2020, 06:48:34 PM
An I-95 super bypass on the Delmarva, from the Del. Men. Bridge to VA Beach.
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: cwf1701 on February 01, 2020, 09:36:01 PM
My I-98 Proposal, from Sault Ste. Marie MI to the Twin Cities of MN. If Built with an extended Ontario Highway 417, it could be a northern Bypass for trucks going from Montreal to I-35 (a northern route for trucks to avoid Toronto, Detroit, and Chicago). This could also lead the way for I-63 from Mackinac City Mi to Indianapolis IN.
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: ilpt4u on February 01, 2020, 09:55:02 PM
Not much love here for the I-57 extension from Sikeston to Little Rock, with the most major needed upgrade section being Poplar Bluff to Walnut Ridge

I'm a fan of the Dallas-Chicago I-30/I-57 Corridor
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: vdeane on February 01, 2020, 10:10:57 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on February 01, 2020, 07:41:59 AM
This would be better off as a Fictional Highways thread...
All the examples from the OP were real, ongoing interstate proposals.  I'm pretty sure the OP was asking which REAL interstate proposals were the most needed, not to propose additional ones.
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: Revive 755 on February 01, 2020, 10:28:52 PM
The Illiana Tollway (sign it as an I-x55).
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: sparker on February 02, 2020, 02:03:29 AM
Quote from: vdeane on February 01, 2020, 10:10:57 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on February 01, 2020, 07:41:59 AM
This would be better off as a Fictional Highways thread...
All the examples from the OP were real, ongoing interstate proposals.  I'm pretty sure the OP was asking which REAL interstate proposals were the most needed, not to propose additional ones.

If that's the case, then the OP was ambiguous at best.  If it only concerns existing Interstate proposals (and I'll take that to include any HPC's that have Interstate designation attached), then the one that will provide the greatest benefit would be the full completion of I-69 from Indianapolis down to Memphis, followed closely by a more southerly section of the same corridor from Houston to Shreveport and/or Texarkana. 
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: MikieTimT on February 02, 2020, 03:31:08 AM
US-412 between I-44 in Tulsa and I-49 in Lowell/Springdale.  No less than 20,000 vehicles AADT in the Arkansas stretch, but it would certainly pick up with an Interstate designation.  Too bad the opportunity was missed to bypass Siloam Springs like Tontitown and Springdale are getting bypassed.  The only part of the entire trip that drops below 15,000 AADT is about 10 miles west of the AR/OK border in OK.  It's all pretty much 4 lane roads already, and has a decent speed limit except for the incomplete/non bypasses.
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: TEG24601 on February 02, 2020, 07:02:15 AM
The only one that really pops in my head is I-72 from Peoria to Toledo along the US 24/IN 25 Corridor.


It would be nice to replace I-82(W) with I-11 or a 3-DI, of an upgraded US 395 to I-11, but I doubt that will ever happen.
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: Brandon on February 02, 2020, 08:01:58 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on February 01, 2020, 10:28:52 PM
The Illiana Tollway (sign it as an I-x55).

That, I'll concur with.  Damn the NIMBYs and build it in spite of them.
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: texaskdog on February 04, 2020, 09:04:58 PM
Quote from: cwf1701 on February 01, 2020, 09:36:01 PM
My I-98 Proposal, from Sault Ste. Marie MI to the Twin Cities of MN. If Built with an extended Ontario Highway 417, it could be a northern Bypass for trucks going from Montreal to I-35 (a northern route for trucks to avoid Toronto, Detroit, and Chicago). This could also lead the way for I-63 from Mackinac City Mi to Indianapolis IN.

Great idea but I'd rather see it Fargo>Duluth>SSM then it would connect straight across and get you to the west coast
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: Konza on February 05, 2020, 04:11:37 PM
Another plug for the Avenue of the Saints.  Let's connect the Twin Cities to St. Louis (and New Orleans) as well as they are connected to Kansas City (and the big cities in Texas).
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: sparker on February 05, 2020, 05:03:28 PM
Quote from: Konza on February 05, 2020, 04:11:37 PM
Another plug for the Avenue of the Saints.  Let's connect the Twin Cities to St. Louis (and New Orleans) as well as they are connected to Kansas City (and the big cities in Texas).

Since that corridor (HPC #2) is already either full freeway or expressway for most of its length, it's surprising some enterprising parties (likely from IA, considering the cities it serves) haven't endeavored to append an Interstate designation to it as of yet.   If it were my call, the future designation would be I-51. 
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: TheGrassGuy on February 07, 2020, 04:38:26 PM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on February 01, 2020, 06:48:34 PM
An I-95 super bypass on the Delmarva, from the Del. Men. Bridge to VA Beach.
You mean like the southern I-99 proposal on Wikipedia?
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: Great Lakes Roads on February 08, 2020, 12:46:04 AM
What if I-67 became a reality of a freeway upgrade of U.S. 31 between Indianapolis and South Bend? Heck, I would extend it up to Grand Rapids via all of I-196!
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: frankenroad on February 08, 2020, 10:44:57 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on February 01, 2020, 06:48:34 PM
An I-95 super bypass on the Delmarva, from the Del. Men. Bridge to VA Beach.

Which would be a legitimate I-99. 
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: TheGrassGuy on February 08, 2020, 03:12:21 PM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on February 08, 2020, 12:46:04 AM
What if I-67 became a reality of a freeway upgrade of U.S. 31 between Indianapolis and South Bend? Heck, I would extend it up to Grand Rapids via all of I-196!
I've also heard of proposals for extending I-67 down I-69, US 231, and I-165 to Bowling Green.
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: sparker on February 09, 2020, 01:28:25 AM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on February 08, 2020, 03:12:21 PM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on February 08, 2020, 12:46:04 AM
What if I-67 became a reality of a freeway upgrade of U.S. 31 between Indianapolis and South Bend? Heck, I would extend it up to Grand Rapids via all of I-196!
I've also heard of proposals for extending I-67 down I-69, US 231, and I-165 to Bowling Green.

The entire purpose of which, a few rumblings from Jasper and Huntingsburg notwithstanding, was intended to put Owensboro, KY on a trunk Interstate -- a plan fomented by a couple of ambitious mayors of that city.  Now that I-165 is at Owensboro's doorstep, the whole concept has been "back-burnered", if not dropped altogether. 
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: silveradoman298 on February 13, 2020, 06:53:33 PM
I think finishing the Coalfields Expressway / (I-73) would do great things to help spur development needed to stem the vanishing coal industry. It would also more directly connect the Midwest to the Southeast with an interstate that could improve travel times and perhaps reduce traffic flow on I-75, I-77 & I-81, potentially reducing the need for costly future expansions on those interstates.
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: sparker on February 18, 2020, 03:02:35 AM
Quote from: silveradoman298 on February 13, 2020, 06:53:33 PM
I think finishing the Coalfields Expressway / (I-73) would do great things to help spur development needed to stem the vanishing coal industry. It would also more directly connect the Midwest to the Southeast with an interstate that could improve travel times and perhaps reduce traffic flow on I-75, I-77 & I-81, potentially reducing the need for costly future expansions on those interstates.

The Coalfields Expressway, between Beckley, WV and US 23 near Pound, VA is slated to be designated US 121.  The now-dormant "King Coal" highway, paralleling US 52 along the west and SW border of WV, was supposed to be co-designated as I-73 & I-74.  The two corridors are functionally perpendicular to each other, crossing near Welch, WV.  The main difference is that significant work has been done on the Coalfields, in contrast to a few tentative miles of the King Coal (and its northern extension, the Toilsa expressway).  Nevertheless, it's still a long way from completion -- still, that's much more promising than the prospects for ever completing the King Coal corridor.   
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: OCGuy81 on February 19, 2020, 12:09:14 PM
It might be cool to see I-35 as the second interstate to connect the Canadian and Mexican border. Yes yes ....I 69 will do that someday, maybe when I'm in my 80s
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on February 19, 2020, 12:39:53 PM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on February 19, 2020, 12:09:14 PM
It might be cool to see I-35 as the second interstate to connect the Canadian and Mexican border. Yes yes ....I 69 will do that someday, maybe when I'm in my 80s

But hardly a "most needed" - there's not even a need for a 4-lane US 53 north of Cook, MN where the current expressway ends. Plus International Falls is dying and there's nothing in Canada that needs that.
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: texaskdog on February 19, 2020, 12:46:27 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on February 19, 2020, 12:39:53 PM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on February 19, 2020, 12:09:14 PM
It might be cool to see I-35 as the second interstate to connect the Canadian and Mexican border. Yes yes ....I 69 will do that someday, maybe when I’m in my 80s

But hardly a "most needed" - there's not even a need for a 4-lane US 53 north of Cook, MN where the current expressway ends. Plus International Falls is dying and there's nothing in Canada that needs that.

Sadly I agree.  That 4 lane will be sufficient forever
Title: Re: Most needed Interstate or Interstate extension
Post by: Finrod on February 19, 2020, 02:24:11 PM
Georgia desperately needs at least one (arguably more than that) expressway that doesn't go to or point towards Atlanta, other than I-95.  Unfortunately there aren't even any plans for any that I know of, since the horribly malnumbered I-3 idea got shot down.  )-: