Quote from: mightyace on April 08, 2010, 10:51:43 PM
And how many other places do you see an Exit sign pointing straight to the right?
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=k&ll=41.82622,-80.767037&spn=0,0.003047&z=18&layer=c&cbll=41.826309,-80.765079&panoid=09rHp2V2m00FtKhbuqtmmA&cbp=12,35.16,,0,23.85
The first example that comes to mind is the Cedar Ave exit on the US-30 bypass of Greensburg, PA...
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Greensburg,+PA&sll=41.826309,-80.765079&sspn=0.002862,0.004823&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Greensburg,+Westmoreland,+Pennsylvania&ll=40.283536,-79.540436&spn=0.011655,0.027466&t=k&z=16&layer=c&cbll=40.283533,-79.540319&panoid=o2W-ltGB4p6rrcNSvtv6ig&cbp=12,103.35,,0,-1.68 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Greensburg,+PA&sll=41.826309,-80.765079&sspn=0.002862,0.004823&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Greensburg,+Westmoreland,+Pennsylvania&ll=40.283536,-79.540436&spn=0.011655,0.027466&t=k&z=16&layer=c&cbll=40.283533,-79.540319&panoid=o2W-ltGB4p6rrcNSvtv6ig&cbp=12,103.35,,0,-1.68)
The Exit sign for the westbound lanes also points straight to the right.
Actually, Maryland has lots of exits where the arrow on the sign points straight to the right.
As HBE mentioned, occasionally found in Maryland, especially at cloverleaf loops, including the one I travel every day.
Quote from: froggie on April 09, 2010, 11:49:53 AM
As HBE mentioned, occasionally found in Maryland, especially at cloverleaf loops, including the one I travel every day.
Here's one that comes to mind on I-68 west of Cumberland, MD:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=cumberland,+md&sll=40.283536,-79.540329&sspn=0.010804,0.01929&g=Greensburg,+Westmoreland,+Pennsylvania&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Cumberland,+Allegany,+Maryland&ll=39.689884,-79.250221&spn=0.087183,0.154324&t=h&z=13&layer=c&cbll=39.689881,-79.250084&panoid=apa7h1GUf5kysfssA_BzKg&cbp=12,131.26,,0,-14.83 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=cumberland,+md&sll=40.283536,-79.540329&sspn=0.010804,0.01929&g=Greensburg,+Westmoreland,+Pennsylvania&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Cumberland,+Allegany,+Maryland&ll=39.689884,-79.250221&spn=0.087183,0.154324&t=h&z=13&layer=c&cbll=39.689881,-79.250084&panoid=apa7h1GUf5kysfssA_BzKg&cbp=12,131.26,,0,-14.83)
There's dozens of those in Wyoming- lots of interchanges along the interstates that are only a notch above being at grade intersections that you have to slow down to 15 MPH to exit. Those have horizontal arrows
I know Maryland is rather fond of using right arrows rather than right-up arrows for sharp exits. By contrast, in Connecticut even the sharpest most sudden exits off the Merritt/Wilbur Cross Parkway use the right-up arrow.
As for the same highway beyond the state line (Hutchinson River Parkway), there is one instance (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=New+York&ll=40.860487,-73.828136&spn=0,0.004823&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=40.860455,-73.829049&panoid=iMWfGFcmvE0CfGbY1YwaDQ&cbp=12,220.2,,0,5.41) where NYSDOT saw fit to use a right arrow when they came through and replaced all the signs along the highway in the Bronx circa 2000.
They also used one on the overhead BGS! (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=New+York&ll=40.86131,-73.828136&spn=0,0.009645&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=40.861461,-73.827996&panoid=x4QFPWHDmR513T-8xTd1yw&cbp=12,219.88,,0,-8.79)
Maryland has several of these.
Haven't seen too many in MN/WI like this one by Fort Snelling. (http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&q=fort+snelling&fb=1&gl=us&hq=fort+snelling&hnear=Minnesota&cid=0,0,17384005982864894151&ei=zGS_S73qJ42pnQf5i5mWCg&ved=0CAwQnwIwAA&ll=44.890403,-93.185778&spn=0,0.01929&z=16&layer=c&cbll=44.890478,-93.185703&panoid=WC-CUmQjYFq0hwRZeiZNuQ&cbp=12,219.97,,0,2.1)
In the UK, we have this one junction (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Newent,+Gloucestershire,+United+Kingdom&sll=39.690281,-79.250221&sspn=0.101449,0.154324&g=Cumberland,+Allegany,+Maryland&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FQNmGAMdGUrb_w&split=0&hq=&hnear=Newent,+Gloucestershire,+United+Kingdom&ll=51.933947,-2.48349&spn=0.010161,0.01929&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=51.93469,-2.482113&panoid=x8sciRsMAMsTA-MOFoNT9A&cbp=12,216.78,,3,-2.5) where the Advanced Direction Sign has the slip road, rather than sloping off, coming off straight at 90degrees. Other (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Maidenhead&sll=51.933748,-2.483897&sspn=0.010214,0.01929&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Maidenhead,+Berkshire,+United+Kingdom&ll=51.506379,-0.734058&spn=0.000644,0.001206&t=k&z=20&layer=c&cbll=51.506334,-0.733988&panoid=XpsqPFwI3ioDgwdE8gxxIg&cbp=12,295.86,,0,2.1) tight junctions, have what UK roadgeeks call "Mr Floppies".
How about just an arrow? (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=14920+Cavour,+Livonia,+Wayne,+Michigan+48154&ll=42.305126,-83.743726&spn=0.002547,0.018024&z=17&layer=c&cbll=42.305127,-83.743731&panoid=jWMT7Otgr1328gVhlXZzpQ&cbp=11,30.25,,0,-1.16)
I recall - but can't say for certain - seeing these on southbound Route 110 (Pasadena Freeway/Arroyo Seco Parkway, former US 66) a couple of months ago...
California I-80 WB @ Farad, exit 201 (Street View (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Farad,+CA&sll=39.538353,-119.816891&sspn=0.010839,0.022724&ie=UTF8&hq=Farad,&hnear=California&ll=39.424459,-120.035806&spn=0,0.022724&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.424242,-120.035833&panoid=mtKPo2rDfQBuo1BTmmpsnw&cbp=12,182.67,,0,16.47)). The exit in this direction is little more than a right in-right out at grade intersection.
Holy... Is that what qualifies for interstate standards these days??? (j/k, although it probably didn't qualify when this was built either...)
The latest MUTCD specifies as an option that up-and-right (L-shaped) arrows be used for these type of exits. (Which implies that the straight right arrows aren't to be used.)
Quote from: Mr_Northside on April 09, 2010, 10:03:29 AMThe first example that comes to mind is the Cedar Ave exit on the US-30 bypass of Greensburg, PA...
There are similar exit signs just down the road at the PA 136 interchange.
There's a similar sign on ON 400 at the Canal Road interchange in Bradford, exit 58 (Streetview looking SB (http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=ON+400+Canal+rd&sll=49.891235,-97.15369&sspn=40.368629,78.310547&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=400+Canal+Rd,+Bradford+West+Gwillimbury,+Simcoe+County,+Ontario&ll=44.050691,-79.608157&spn=0.005467,0.009559&z=17&layer=c&cbll=44.050781,-79.60824&panoid=zeJDCnI6WKrYrrIAsTsDVw&cbp=12,158.07,,0,1.21)) The this exit in both direction is a basically a right in-right out at grade intersection.
Looking NB:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg69.imageshack.us%2Fimg69%2F6338%2Fon400canalrd.jpg&hash=86c84925a5848310bea2bfa81fca002c10814e8b)
Here's one in NY:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Greensburg,+PA&sll=41.826309,-80.765079&sspn=0.002862,0.004823&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Greensburg,+Westmoreland,+Pennsylvania&layer=c&cbll=41.606814,-74.565259&panoid=e8BqwhiQ3jc5WN6i9QpTCw&cbp=12,127.68,,0,4.58&ll=41.606715,-74.565099&spn=0.005872,0.013894&z=17
Quote from: deanej on April 10, 2010, 12:10:51 PM
Here's one in NY:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Greensburg,+PA&sll=41.826309,-80.765079&sspn=0.002862,0.004823&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Greensburg,+Westmoreland,+Pennsylvania&layer=c&cbll=41.606814,-74.565259&panoid=e8BqwhiQ3jc5WN6i9QpTCw&cbp=12,127.68,,0,4.58&ll=41.606715,-74.565099&spn=0.005872,0.013894&z=17
For however long it lasts
Quote from: roadfro on April 09, 2010, 04:58:09 PM
The exit in this direction is little more than a right in-right out at grade intersection.
the road dates to 1958, and back then that was common practice for a minor exit. I believe the Floriston exit is very similar, and maybe two or three others in that area.
I-25, exit 191 in Colorado is similar. And of similar age.
the entire Arroyo Seco Parkway (Pasadena Freeway) in LA, which dates to 1940, has exits like that, except with the occasional 5mph curve rating on the off-ramp.
I've seen exit signage like this on S.R. 166 eastbound/Langford Parkway at the Lakewood Avenue/To Sylvan Rd. & Cleveland Avenue interchange, which is on the Atlanta-East Point city limit line. Of course, I can't pull it up on Google Streetview, as there are only photos of the westbound side of the freeway. :-(
Be well,
Bryant
Quote from: agentsteel53 on April 10, 2010, 02:30:46 PM
Quote from: roadfro on April 09, 2010, 04:58:09 PM
The exit in this direction is little more than a right in-right out at grade intersection.
the road dates to 1958, and back then that was common practice for a minor exit. I believe the Floriston exit is very similar, and maybe two or three others in that area.
I-25, exit 191 in Colorado is similar. And of similar age.
the entire Arroyo Seco Parkway (Pasadena Freeway) in LA, which dates to 1940, has exits like that, except with the occasional 5mph curve rating on the off-ramp.
None of the I-80 exits in the Sierras are quite as bad as that westbound one at Farad. The others at least have actual ramps. IIRC, the westbound "on ramp" meets the freeway at a stop sign with little to no merge area on the mainline. It's understandable, though, given the age of the road and the terrain that it's in.
The entire Arroyo Seco is indeed this bad. Question is whether that freeway uses straight right arrows on its signage...
Roadfro: Here's one on Route 110, at Exit 25 northbound:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Pasadena&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=45.957536,107.138672&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Pasadena,+Los+Angeles,+California&ll=34.073715,-118.233522&spn=0.005936,0.013078&z=17&layer=c&cbll=34.074733,-118.232365&panoid=4aXze2QNVkb3RvfGC0ZKSA&cbp=12,43.15,,0,5.15
Quote from: Roadgeek_Adam on April 10, 2010, 02:22:13 PM
Quote from: deanej on April 10, 2010, 12:10:51 PM
Here's one in NY:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Greensburg,+PA&sll=41.826309,-80.765079&sspn=0.002862,0.004823&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Greensburg,+Westmoreland,+Pennsylvania&layer=c&cbll=41.606814,-74.565259&panoid=e8BqwhiQ3jc5WN6i9QpTCw&cbp=12,127.68,,0,4.58&ll=41.606715,-74.565099&spn=0.005872,0.013894&z=17
For however long it lasts
At the rate NYSDOT is upgrading NY 17... a long time.
Quote from: roadfro on April 09, 2010, 04:58:09 PM
California I-80 WB @ Farad, exit 201 (Street View (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Farad,+CA&sll=39.538353,-119.816891&sspn=0.010839,0.022724&ie=UTF8&hq=Farad,&hnear=California&ll=39.424459,-120.035806&spn=0,0.022724&z=16&layer=c&cbll=39.424242,-120.035833&panoid=mtKPo2rDfQBuo1BTmmpsnw&cbp=12,182.67,,0,16.47)). The exit in this direction is little more than a right in-right out at grade intersection.
I wonder what the capacitance of that interchange is. :)
Quote from: agentsteel53 on April 10, 2010, 02:30:46 PM
I-25, exit 191 in Colorado is similar. And of similar age.
It's recently been upgraded to a large parclo in anticipation of some coming development.
Here's one (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=mackinaw+city,+mi&sll=45.853375,-84.725103&sspn=0.011837,0.01929&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Mackinaw+City,+Cheboygan,+Michigan&ll=45.781906,-84.732978&spn=0.011792,0.01929&z=16&layer=c&cbll=45.781831,-84.732999&panoid=B1PSUwRpSGQlLZtFkGftTA&cbp=12,12.16,,0,-7.41) in Mackinaw City, Michigan. This was probably necessary in order for I-75 to not destroy half a town when it was built.
Southbound, there's a horizontal arrow at the exit gore only and at the Bridge View exit in St. Ignace.
How about an exit straight to the left?
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg43.imageshack.us%2Fimg43%2F1336%2Fdscn6702v.jpg&hash=1ced3093e367f348a53466be32f007b5f88e10a0)
(yeah, okay, this is in a service area. Chesapeake House on I-95 in MD)
Quote from: Duke87 on April 21, 2010, 11:33:57 PM
How about an exit straight to the left?
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg43.imageshack.us%2Fimg43%2F1336%2Fdscn6702v.jpg&hash=1ced3093e367f348a53466be32f007b5f88e10a0)
(yeah, okay, this is in a service area. Chesapeake House on I-95 in MD)
ouch? exiting from the fast lane with no deceleration lane?
Exiting from the parking lot back onto the freeway.
Here's one on NY 198: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=42.934134,-78.866349&spn=0,0.003449&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.934227,-78.866161&panoid=mX8oydzO5K1hf67oANk8lg&cbp=12,243.85,,0,5
They have 'em at most rest stops around Angelo. I might get around to take a picture of one...
BigMatt