Poll
Question:
Favorite Auxilary Route?
Option 1: I-275 (OH)
votes: 7
Option 2: I-405 (LA)
votes: 6
Option 3: I-287
votes: 4
Option 4: I-285 (GA)
votes: 1
Option 5: I-376
votes: 5
Option 6: I-291 (MA)
votes: 1
Option 7: I-890
votes: 0
Option 8: I-385
votes: 3
Leave Here what is your Favorite 3di Interstate i Didn't List!
8 choices out of how many...
I-280 in Ohio.
Quote from: 1 on March 21, 2020, 05:00:14 PM
8 choices out of how many...
Several dozen...
H-201 in Honolulu. Not exceptional as a highway, but it's in the right place.
Honorable mention: I-280 in the San Francisco Bay area, self-proclaimed "World's Most Beautiful Freeway".
Has to be either I-294 or I-355. Not sure how we got around the Chicago suburbs without them.
I-196 in Michigan and I-335 in Kansas would also be candidates.
Not I-180 (WY) :bigass:
Mine was I-540 (AR) until I-49 came about, now it is I-435 (MO/KS). I imagine a decent portion of the MO side's traffic is people trying to avoid Bruce Watkins (US-71). Outside of the middle of the country, it is I-470 (OH/WV).
I-210 has some really fantastic views but I would still take Bay Area I-280. I-680 and I-580 can also be incredibly scenic in California.
VA I-664, VA/MD I-495, VA I-295, VA/DC I-395, just for a few in my part of the country.
I would vote for I-696.
I second the I-355 vote. But then again, I grew up near it...paid quite a few tolls with the I-Pass!
Clearly, the co-winners will be I-180s...the Wyoming and Illinois versions! :sombrero:
I-610 in Houston
I-366 in Virginia. :-D :-D
I-235 in Des Moines because when I go back to my parents in Omaha, I can go 35 to 235 to 80 without turning.
Toss up between 205 (OR/WA) and 405 (OR)
Quote from: renegade on March 21, 2020, 05:10:24 PM
I-280 in Ohio.
I'm going with that as well.
Cool bridge over the Maumee with a nice view, interesting ramp configurations at Front St, transitions very quickly from urban to suburban to basically rural, and is the only road I can think of with Cleveland (OH) used as a control city for the
southbound direction. Also, if you enter it from the south on OH 420 there's an "end 420, begin I-280, Toledo Detroit" sign on the same gantry as the "I-80, I-90, Ohio Turnpike, Chicago Cleveland" exit sign, which might be the only place those 4 cities appear together on the same sign assembly as possible destinations.
I honestly like the retro-ness of 110 in Baton Rouge.
Also, cool views of the state capitol.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/I-110,+Baton+Rouge,+LA+70802/@30.4562107,-91.179926,3a,75y,258.65h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sIDBX0JjNoHprrYgW449T8A!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x8626a0e71e672367:0x7cce06221fa58388
I-495 in MA. Takes you to Maine or Cape Cod for vacation.
Quote from: 1 on March 21, 2020, 05:00:14 PM
8 choices out of how many...
i was just picking random ones around or near big cities i can't post the hundreds of 3di routes...
Of the ones on the list, I've only been on I-275 (OH and KY segments), I-285 (GA), and I-376
Of those 3, I'd pick I-376. Pittsburgh and that "City with a Front Door" feeling going into the tunnel and coming out to the Monongahela River Bridge, close to the Ohio and Allegheny Rivers and Downtown Pittsburgh...it is unique
I-635 in KS/MO, I think. Childhood memories.
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 22, 2020, 02:24:56 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 21, 2020, 05:00:14 PM
8 choices out of how many...
i was just picking random ones around or near big cities i can't post the hundreds of 3di routes...
Well, if the person's desired answer isn't on the list, it's not an accurate poll, is it?
Not sure how we are judging, but the view coming out of the Fort Pitt Tunnel into Downtown Pittsburgh on I-376 is hard to beat.
Quote from: hbelkins on March 21, 2020, 09:39:04 PM
I-366 in Virginia. :-D :-D
But only the 85 MPH section.
I'd vote for the other I-291 if they ever finished it.
I'll vote for the now tri-state I-295. The ultimate shunpike to the southern portion of the NJ Turnpike.
I'm sure there will also be plenty of votes for I-175 in FL, I-375 in MI, I-189, I-195 in ME, I-395 in MD, and I-695 in NY and DC.
I voted for 285 in the poll simply because it's the only one of the options I've even seen in person. If I had to pick one, I'd say I-215 in Utah simply because it was the closest one to where I grew up. I almost certainly had it fully clinched by the time I was 10.
I-410, Louisiana.
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on March 22, 2020, 06:49:26 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on March 21, 2020, 09:39:04 PM
I-366 in Virginia. :-D :-D
But only the 85 MPH section.
I'd vote for the other I-291 if they ever finished it.
I'll vote for the now tri-state I-295. The ultimate shunpike to the southern portion of the NJ Turnpike.
I'm sure there will also be plenty of votes for I-175 in FL, I-375 in MI, I-189, I-195 in ME, I-395 in MD, and I-695 in NY and DC.
yea i-291 in Conn wouldve been really good if there wasn't any environmental concerns, ive been on I-291 in conn and its a pointless connector in CT
Classic example of a thread that does not need a poll.
For me it's a toss-up between I-490 and I-590. Too close to call.
I like I-675 in Michigan but if you use it end to end you miss the infamous Zilwaukee Bridge along I-75/US-23.
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 23, 2020, 02:27:44 PM
I like I-675 in Michigan but if you use it end to end you miss the infamous Zilwaukee Bridge along I-75/US-23.
I-675 in MI seems like a weird interstate it doesnt surround the city like most bypasses are supposed to be
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 03:09:13 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 23, 2020, 02:27:44 PM
I like I-675 in Michigan but if you use it end to end you miss the infamous Zilwaukee Bridge along I-75/US-23.
I-675 in MI seems like a weird interstate it doesnt surround the city like most bypasses are supposed to be
Nor does I-475, I-496 or the unsigned I-296. But they do follow the rules - they connect to Interstates at each end.
Quote from: GaryV on March 23, 2020, 03:14:28 PM
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 03:09:13 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 23, 2020, 02:27:44 PM
I like I-675 in Michigan but if you use it end to end you miss the infamous Zilwaukee Bridge along I-75/US-23.
I-675 in MI seems like a weird interstate it doesnt surround the city like most bypasses are supposed to be
Nor does I-475, I-496 or the unsigned I-296. But they do follow the rules - they connect to Interstates at each end.
I-496 is weird too, I still don't know why they have highways unsigned, whats the point of it being there if its not being confirmed there for people to know like I-296 or US 85/US 87 along I-25, I-475 seems fine it a bypass of Flint
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 03:21:55 PM
I still don't know why they have highways unsigned, whats the point of it being there if its not being confirmed there for people to know like I-296 or US 85/US 87 along I-25.
The unsigned Interstates like I-296, I-595 in Maryland, and all the Interstates in Alaska and Puerto Rico, brought additional Federal money to those states, etc., under a Federal funding formula that no longer exists.
The poorly signed concurrences of US 85 and US 87 with I-25 tie together portions of the US routes that aren't concurrent with the Interstate.
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 03:09:13 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 23, 2020, 02:27:44 PM
I like I-675 in Michigan but if you use it end to end you miss the infamous Zilwaukee Bridge along I-75/US-23.
I-675 in MI seems like a weird interstate it doesnt surround the city like most bypasses are supposed to be
I-675 was originally built to bypass the old Zilwaukee Bridge which was a drawbridge that would back traffic up for miles when it was opened and to better serve the city of Saginaw. I-75 is the bypass of the city and 2 miles shorter than taking I-675 from end to end. I-675 has also been put into use for mainline I-75 when the new bridge was closed. The new Zilwaukee Bridge was built in the 1980's and it took a lot to get it complete, there was a construction accident when they were building it that caused them to have to hire a new contractor to finish it. I watched this bridge being built as a kid living in Zilwaukee. And since it connects to I-75 at both ends it's not considered a spur but acts like one into downtown Saginaw.
I-476. What else?
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 03:21:55 PM
Quote from: GaryV on March 23, 2020, 03:14:28 PM
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 03:09:13 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 23, 2020, 02:27:44 PM
I like I-675 in Michigan but if you use it end to end you miss the infamous Zilwaukee Bridge along I-75/US-23.
I-675 in MI seems like a weird interstate it doesnt surround the city like most bypasses are supposed to be
Nor does I-475, I-496 or the unsigned I-296. But they do follow the rules - they connect to Interstates at each end.
I-496 is weird too, I still don't know why they have highways unsigned, whats the point of it being there if its not being confirmed there for people to know like I-296 or US 85/US 87 along I-25, I-475 seems fine it a bypass of Flint
I-475 goes through Flint, I-75 even though it doesn't really do a good job of it bypasses Flint proper but the reason I say it doesn't do a good job of bypassing it is because it still goes through a majority of the populated areas where it doesn't in Saginaw. You have Pierson Road, Corunna Road (M-21), Miller Road, I-69, Bristol Road and the US-23 split that add a lot of traffic to I-75. I-475 and I-675 are simply bypasses of I-75 not the cities they serve.
As for I-496 that highway is signed, it's I-296 in Grand Rapids that isn't. It follows the rules though. If anything I-196 should have an even number not an odd number but that resulted in I-96 and I-196 being flipped at Grand Rapids, originally I-196 went to Muskegon so it was a spur at that time and I-96 went to Benton Harbor. Imo, I-196 should be I-296.
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 03:21:55 PM
I-475 seems fine it a bypass of Flint
I-475 is on the eastern edge of downtown Flint. I-75 skirts around Flint about 2 miles to the west of downtown. The only time it is in the city limits is where there's a short segment connecting the airport to the rest of Flint.
I voted for I-376. I also like I-794 and I-180 in Wyoming and Illinois.
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 23, 2020, 04:03:10 PM
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 03:21:55 PM
Quote from: GaryV on March 23, 2020, 03:14:28 PM
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 03:09:13 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 23, 2020, 02:27:44 PM
I like I-675 in Michigan but if you use it end to end you miss the infamous Zilwaukee Bridge along I-75/US-23.
I-675 in MI seems like a weird interstate it doesnt surround the city like most bypasses are supposed to be
Nor does I-475, I-496 or the unsigned I-296. But they do follow the rules - they connect to Interstates at each end.
I-496 is weird too, I still don't know why they have highways unsigned, whats the point of it being there if its not being confirmed there for people to know like I-296 or US 85/US 87 along I-25, I-475 seems fine it a bypass of Flint
I-475 goes through Flint, I-75 even though it doesn't really do a good job of it bypasses Flint proper but the reason I say it doesn't do a good job of bypassing it is because it still goes through a majority of the populated areas where it doesn't in Saginaw. You have Pierson Road, Corunna Road (M-21), Miller Road, I-69, Bristol Road and the US-23 split that add a lot of traffic to I-75. I-475 and I-675 are simply bypasses of I-75 not the cities they serve.
Yea i see what you mean, I-475 goes through downtown so I-75 is technically a bypass of Flint in the area, but even if there was a bridge involved with the making of I-675, Why was the Actually highway built north of downtown where the majority of traffic and Population is, not unless its just a way to acces downtown then thats something but anything else about it is weird
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 04:43:19 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 23, 2020, 04:03:10 PM
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 03:21:55 PM
Quote from: GaryV on March 23, 2020, 03:14:28 PM
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 03:09:13 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 23, 2020, 02:27:44 PM
I like I-675 in Michigan but if you use it end to end you miss the infamous Zilwaukee Bridge along I-75/US-23.
I-675 in MI seems like a weird interstate it doesnt surround the city like most bypasses are supposed to be
Nor does I-475, I-496 or the unsigned I-296. But they do follow the rules - they connect to Interstates at each end.
I-496 is weird too, I still don't know why they have highways unsigned, whats the point of it being there if its not being confirmed there for people to know like I-296 or US 85/US 87 along I-25, I-475 seems fine it a bypass of Flint
I-475 goes through Flint, I-75 even though it doesn't really do a good job of it bypasses Flint proper but the reason I say it doesn't do a good job of bypassing it is because it still goes through a majority of the populated areas where it doesn't in Saginaw. You have Pierson Road, Corunna Road (M-21), Miller Road, I-69, Bristol Road and the US-23 split that add a lot of traffic to I-75. I-475 and I-675 are simply bypasses of I-75 not the cities they serve.
Yea i see what you mean, I-475 goes through downtown so I-75 is technically a bypass of Flint in the area, but even if there was a bridge involved with the making of I-675, Why was the Actually highway built north of downtown where the majority of traffic and Population is, not unless its just a way to acces downtown then thats something but anything else about it is weird
I-75 doesn't really bypass Flint it still skirts the western edge of the city. Like Gary said the only part that actually enters Flint is a small strip of land connecting Bishop Airport with the rest of Flint.
I-675 was made a loop so that access to downtown from the north could be made as well and exit 6 Tittabawassee Road is a busy exit and has most of the hotels in Saginaw at that exit. That is actually Saginaw Township and Kochville Township at exit 6. Tittabawassee is very busy and I-675 works as a route into downtown where the Dow Event Center and Huntington Event Park are.
I-75 is in Mount Morris Township, Flint Township, the very small stretch of Flint connecting the airport, Munday Township and Grand Blanc Township between the two ends of I-475.
I-990 :biggrin:
I-271. The stretch with the express lanes complete with high mast lighting running down the center of it does it for me.
I-894. It's concurrent with I-41 its entire length, so is the most useless 3DI in the entire system.
Quote from: plain on March 24, 2020, 01:56:33 PM
I-271. The stretch with the express lanes complete with high mast lighting running down the center of it does it for me.
Great pick. If I wasn't home-state biased, that might be my choice.
I wish more interstates with a lot of long distance traffic were set up like I-271. I-90 through Buffalo, for example.
I-280, I-680 and I-210 all California editions and they have great scenic sections.
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 04:43:19 PM
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Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 03:21:55 PM
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Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 03:09:13 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 23, 2020, 02:27:44 PM
I like I-675 in Michigan but if you use it end to end you miss the infamous Zilwaukee Bridge along I-75/US-23.
I-675 in MI seems like a weird interstate it doesnt surround the city like most bypasses are supposed to be
Nor does I-475, I-496 or the unsigned I-296. But they do follow the rules - they connect to Interstates at each end.
I-496 is weird too, I still don't know why they have highways unsigned, whats the point of it being there if its not being confirmed there for people to know like I-296 or US 85/US 87 along I-25, I-475 seems fine it a bypass of Flint
I-475 goes through Flint, I-75 even though it doesn't really do a good job of it bypasses Flint proper but the reason I say it doesn't do a good job of bypassing it is because it still goes through a majority of the populated areas where it doesn't in Saginaw. You have Pierson Road, Corunna Road (M-21), Miller Road, I-69, Bristol Road and the US-23 split that add a lot of traffic to I-75. I-475 and I-675 are simply bypasses of I-75 not the cities they serve.
Yea i see what you mean, I-475 goes through downtown so I-75 is technically a bypass of Flint in the area, but even if there was a bridge involved with the making of I-675, Why was the Actually highway built north of downtown where the majority of traffic and Population is, not unless its just a way to acces downtown then thats something but anything else about it is weird
I-75 does the same thing in Florida with I-275 going through Tampa and St. Petersburg and I-75 doing the bypassing.
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 26, 2020, 09:11:49 PM
I-75 does the same thing in Florida with I-275 going through Tampa and St. Petersburg and I-75 doing the bypassing.
In the past 30 years, I-85 and I-40 were both re-routed on new location to -bypass- Greensboro and Winston-Salem, NC respectively, with the original routings going through the urban areas.
Quote from: sprjus4 on March 26, 2020, 09:24:13 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 26, 2020, 09:11:49 PM
I-75 does the same thing in Florida with I-275 going through Tampa and St. Petersburg and I-75 doing the bypassing.
In the past 30 years, I-85 and I-40 were both re-routed on new location to -bypass- Greensboro and Winston-Salem, NC respectively, with the original routings going through the urban areas.
With all the new interstates in North Carolina I'm lost on what's what anymore lol.
I-535
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 26, 2020, 10:10:56 PM
With all the new interstates in North Carolina I'm lost on what's what anymore lol.
I-85 and I-40 were original interstates through Greensboro and Winston-Salem
In 1992, I-40 was routed along a new southern bypass of Winston-Salem (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/36.0706697,-80.325763/36.0968176,-80.0114073/@36.0779416,-80.1315288,68761m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!4m1!3e0!5m1!1e1), eliminating the designation along the pre-existing freeway closer to Downtown. The old route became I-40 Business, though this year is becoming solely US-421 with the elimination of I-40 Business.
In 2004, I-85 was routed along a new southeastern bypass of Greensboro (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/36.0015555,-79.858401/36.059228,-79.6668757/@36.036925,-79.7882598,30646m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!4m1!3e0!5m1!1e1), eliminating the designation along the pre-existing freeway closer to Downtown. The old route became I-85 Business along with part of it still being I-40 as they had an overlap on the pre-existing alignment.
For sheer scenery, I-280 (at least north of CA 85) in CA. For variety of scenery, I-680 to the east. And for long-distance functionality, I-505: when traveling to the PNW, getting onto this highway was a sign that I was well on my way; and in reverse, a sign that I was almost home.
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 21, 2020, 04:41:41 PM
Leave Here what is your Favorite 3di Interstate i Didn't List!
Why is the totally non-descript I-275 near Cincinnati on the list? Maybe because it was the original (and for years the only) Tri-State 3di?
I'd have instead picked I-265 (IN, KY), because it is likely the only Interstate (2di or 3di) to feature a tunnel on its route that is sited wholly within one state's territory but was paid for and is maintained by another. Yes, The Commonwealth of Kentucky somehow conned INDOT & State of Indiana taxpayers into paying for and maintaining the (IMHO) totally UNNECESSARY End Tunnel under the supposedly "historic" Drumanard Estate, just east of the Lewis & Clark Bridge over the Ohio River. I sure hope we Hoosiers get a portion of the toll revenues from the bridge to offset the burden of maintaining these twin tunnels in and for the Bluegrass State.
Also, this I-265 also connects to a second 2di (I-64) in addition to its parent. While this alone does not make the route unique among 3dis, it is nonetheless helps make the route more interesting.
I-394
I-155 in Illinois is an underrated 3-digit interstate, as it provides a good route between two of the largest cities in Downstate Illinois, Springfield and Peoria, despite not directly serving either city.
Quote from: SSR_317 on March 28, 2020, 01:33:13 PM
Why is the totally non-descript I-275 near Cincinnati on the list?
It's not totally nondescript. It looks just like Snoopy's head.
All :D
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on March 29, 2020, 02:00:16 AM
Quote from: SSR_317 on March 28, 2020, 01:33:13 PM
Why is the totally non-descript I-275 near Cincinnati on the list?
It's not totally nondescript. It looks just like Snoopy's head.
The I-64/I-264 loop at Louisville looks like a stomach.
Where's the love for I-238?
<ducks>
Quote from: wanderer2575 on March 29, 2020, 09:40:49 AM
Where's the love for I-238?
<ducks>
I'm sure their is a sadist or two out there who are I-238 fans.
Quote from: wanderer2575 on March 29, 2020, 09:40:49 AM
Where's the love for I-238?
<ducks>
Just down-thread from I-180 (either one).
Quote from: SSR_317 on March 28, 2020, 01:33:13 PM
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 21, 2020, 04:41:41 PM
Leave Here what is your Favorite 3di Interstate i Didn't List!
Why is the totally non-descript I-275 near Cincinnati on the list? Maybe because it was the original (and for years the only) Tri-State 3di?
Well Because I-275 i believe is the largest Loop in the US around a city, and because it enters a state that its Parent Route Doesn't Go through
I-295 in Delaware, New Jersey and Pennsylvania is the red-headed, bastard stepchild of the Interstate system.
:popcorn:
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 29, 2020, 02:30:40 PM
Well Because I-275 i believe is the largest Loop in the US around a city, and because it enters a state that its Parent Route Doesn't Go through
The 2nd part, I-275 is not alone on that list. I-129 crosses the Missouri River into Nebraska, whereas I-29 never enters Nebraska
Quote from: renegade on March 29, 2020, 04:08:24 PM
I-295 in Delaware, New Jersey and Pennsylvania is the red-headed, bastard stepchild of the Interstate system.
:popcorn:
The IL and WY I-180s take that title over Philly area I-295. I-295 is a something, tho
I-295 in Delaware, New Jersey and Pennsylvania for its great utility, historically best large flashing arrows (at I-76, R.I.P.) and because I spent half my life driving or riding up and down it almost daily (in NJ at least).
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 29, 2020, 02:30:40 PM
Quote from: SSR_317 on March 28, 2020, 01:33:13 PM
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 21, 2020, 04:41:41 PM
Leave Here what is your Favorite 3di Interstate i Didn't List!
Why is the totally non-descript I-275 near Cincinnati on the list? Maybe because it was the original (and for years the only) Tri-State 3di?
Well Because I-275 i believe is the largest Loop in the US around a city, and because it enters a state that its Parent Route Doesn't Go through
Good points.
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on March 29, 2020, 02:00:16 AM
Quote from: SSR_317 on March 28, 2020, 01:33:13 PM
Why is the totally non-descript I-275 near Cincinnati on the list?
It's not totally nondescript. It looks just like Snoopy's head.
I never noticed that before, thanks for pointing that out!
The big boy in MA, I-495. Connects exurban MA and is one of the longest 3dis.
Quote from: SSR_317 on April 04, 2020, 02:04:55 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on March 29, 2020, 02:00:16 AM
Quote from: SSR_317 on March 28, 2020, 01:33:13 PM
Why is the totally non-descript I-275 near Cincinnati on the list?
It's not totally nondescript. It looks just like Snoopy's head.
I never noticed that before, thanks for pointing that out!
I noticed that too, years ago before anyone else pointed that out.
I-405 in L.A. and Seattle, I-290 and I-294 in Chicago, I-110, I-605 and I-710 in L.A.
My top choices in order are:
1. I-280 (Ca.) This one should have been on the list for obvious reasons.
2. I-580 over Altamont Pass
3. I-182 I got to see a big part of this get built. (The segment between 395(s) and 395(n) is much older.) The 70 m.p.h. speed limit on a suburban freeway is a HUGE plus as well.
4. I-415 (Yes, I know it is posted as I-215 but it has a completely different feel from the rest of that freeway AND serves a completely different function.)
5. I-180 (Wy.) Yes it is substandard but that is part of what makes it so cool.