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Title: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet (or where imagery is ancient)
Post by: CoreySamson on March 30, 2020, 09:35:34 PM
I noticed recently that US 59/270 in the Ozarks along the Arkansas-Oklahoma border from Rich Mountain to US 259 still does not have streetview, more than 13 years after streetview was introduced.

Are there any other major roads in the US without Streetview imagery like this?
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet
Post by: Max Rockatansky on March 30, 2020, 09:40:29 PM
That really depends on what your definition of major is.  Something that really surprised me was that the GSV had almost none of the Sierra Vista Scenic Byway.  Worse Google Maps doesn't even identify much of Forest Route 10 as even existing. 
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet
Post by: hotdogPi on March 30, 2020, 09:43:06 PM
US 165 between Gillett and DeWitt, AR.
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet
Post by: Bickendan on March 30, 2020, 09:49:33 PM
Good thing you said 'Within the US'...
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet
Post by: CoreySamson on March 30, 2020, 09:56:59 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 30, 2020, 09:40:29 PM
That really depends on what your definition of major is.  Something that really surprised me was that the GSV had almost none of the Sierra Vista Scenic Byway.  Worse Google Maps doesn't even identify much of Forest Route 10 as even existing. 

I was thinking state highways and US highways, as well as some important local streets.
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet
Post by: ozarkman417 on March 30, 2020, 10:46:31 PM
Quote from: Bickendan on March 30, 2020, 09:49:33 PM
Good thing you said 'Within the US'...
Exactly, for example you have almost all of German-Speaking Europe missing (urban areas seem to be an exception). Even in the areas you can view, some buildings are blurred, especially in urban areas. This is because they have strict privacy laws.



How about roads where the GSV content is, in relative terms, ancient? If the imagery date goes back to 2007-09, the image quality is so low that signs are illegible. This is the case throughout the less-traveled state highways in the Ozarks.


Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on March 31, 2020, 03:24:59 AM
Quote from: ozarkman417 on March 30, 2020, 10:46:31 PM
Quote from: Bickendan on March 30, 2020, 09:49:33 PM
Good thing you said 'Within the US'...
Exactly, for example you have almost all of German-Speaking Europe missing (urban areas seem to be an exception). Even in the areas you can view, some buildings are blurred, especially in urban areas. This is because they have strict privacy laws.

And because of that there's nothing in Germany beyond the initial rollout.

Even though is not "within the US", I consider the first-order regional roads (or "orange" roads as I know them) in Spain to be semi-major. In that sense, until recently there was a section of such road in Aragon missing, which they have finally added in the last update.

Within the US, I remember for a long time the Westernmost reaches of North Carolina had no coverage at all, until 2016 or so.
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet
Post by: Verlanka on March 31, 2020, 05:40:34 AM
Quote from: ozarkman417 on March 30, 2020, 10:46:31 PM
Quote from: Bickendan on March 30, 2020, 09:49:33 PM
Good thing you said 'Within the US'...
Exactly, for example you have almost all of German-Speaking Europe missing (urban areas seem to be an exception). Even in the areas you can view, some buildings are blurred, especially in urban areas. This is because they have strict privacy laws.
China is also missing as well, then again they're more strict than Germany is regarding privacy.

Quote from: ozarkman417 on March 30, 2020, 10:46:31 PM
How about roads where the GSV content is, in relative terms, ancient? If the imagery date goes back to 2007-09, the image quality is so low that signs are illegible. This is the case throughout the less-traveled state highways in the Ozarks.
Most of the back roads in the Midwest and West are like that.
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet
Post by: deathtopumpkins on March 31, 2020, 09:00:59 AM
Quote from: Verlanka on March 31, 2020, 05:40:34 AM
China is also missing as well, then again they're more strict than Germany is regarding privacy.

The issue is less strict privacy laws, and more Google not playing nice with China. There are Chinese websites that offer streetview coverage of China, e.g. Baidu Maps, which is definitely not a clone of Google Maps ;-)
https://j.map.baidu.com/ff/Nfz (fun to explore, but the interface is entirely in Chinese)
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet
Post by: CoreySamson on April 09, 2020, 02:51:44 PM
I found another unmapped US route: US-6 between the Nebraska-Colorado border and the town of Imperial.
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet (or where imagery is ancient)
Post by: ctkatz on April 16, 2020, 05:44:43 AM
maybe not street view but google earth shows the ohio river bridges project early in construction.
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet (or where imagery is ancient)
Post by: Roadgeekteen on April 16, 2020, 11:00:13 AM
Can't think of the exact road, but lots of rural US highways in the west still have imagery from 2009.
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet (or where imagery is ancient)
Post by: MikieTimT on April 16, 2020, 11:09:01 AM
Quote from: CoreySamson on March 30, 2020, 09:35:34 PM
I noticed recently that US 59/270 in the Ozarks along the Arkansas-Oklahoma border from Rich Mountain to US 259 still does not have streetview, more than 13 years after streetview was introduced.

Are there any other major roads in the US without Streetview imagery like this?

That's a crying shame.  That's a gorgeous stretch of road too!  Especially when the leaves change.  By the way, those are the Ouachitas, not the Ozarks.  Have to go north of the Arkansas River to get to the Ozarks.  And no, the tri-peaks (Petit Jean Mtn., Mt. Nebo, and Magazine Mtn.) aren't in the Ozarks although they are in the Ozark National Forest.  The landforms are closer to the Ouachitas, despite the forest name.
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet (or where imagery is ancient)
Post by: andrepoiy on April 16, 2020, 12:04:29 PM
Here in Canada, in my local area, parking lots get Streetviewed...
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet (or where imagery is ancient)
Post by: Roadgeekteen on April 19, 2020, 11:07:38 AM
I'm taking a virtual roadtrip, and much of I-68 west has terrible quality, even though it's new. Probably something with the sun.
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet (or where imagery is ancient)
Post by: kphoger on April 25, 2020, 04:14:13 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on April 09, 2020, 02:51:44 PM
I found another unmapped US route: US-6 between the Nebraska-Colorado border and the town of Imperial.

How in the world did that get missed!
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet (or where imagery is ancient)
Post by: STLmapboy on May 05, 2020, 11:35:47 AM
Modoc County in NE California has some pretty ancient imagery in Alturas (CA-299/US-395, https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4945342,-120.5425915,3a,60y,296.35h,94.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3jzTBqojobwu8LGVoE3cyg!2e0!7i3328!8i1664). In fact, much of rural California/Oregon is poorly done.
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet (or where imagery is ancient)
Post by: CoreySamson on June 03, 2020, 11:20:30 AM
I did a bit of looking around the US on Streetview, and I found a couple more roads without imagery:

Several portions of state highways in south central Missouri: MO-19, 106, 72, 49, and 32 (Interestingly, the entire towns of Eminence and Bunker do not have any imagery at all!?)

US-2 between Glasgow and Saco in northern Montana

Also in Northern Montana, Montana 17, 232 and 233 are almost completely devoid of imagery

Several portions of state highways in New York's Finger Lakes region: NY 34, 26, 79, 41, 34B, 90 and even US 11 (The 79 one surprised me since it was so close to Ithaca)

NC 143 at the border with Tennessee

Most of AL 49 and 77 between Wadley and Lineville

Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet (or where imagery is ancient)
Post by: kphoger on June 03, 2020, 11:23:01 AM
Quote from: CoreySamson on June 03, 2020, 11:20:30 AM
Interestingly, the entire towns of Eminence and ...

Yet nearby E Highway was covered in 2016.  Weird.
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet (or where imagery is ancient)
Post by: BridgesToIdealism on June 18, 2020, 09:31:48 AM
Let's not forget about the major bridges in NYC that don't have Street view.

Verrazano-Narrows Bridge and George Washington Bridge have never had any street view except for the approaches.

Outerbridge Crossing has never had any street view and still doesn't.

Goethals Bridge never had street view for the longest time but now does with the new replacement bridge.

Bayonne Bridge originally had street view but for some reason it was removed when they started the Raise the Roadway project and has not been put back ever since.
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet (or where imagery is ancient)
Post by: jmacswimmer on June 18, 2020, 09:50:35 AM
Quote from: BridgesToIdealism on June 18, 2020, 09:31:48 AM
Let's not forget about the major bridges in NYC that don't have Street view.

Verrazano-Narrows Bridge and George Washington Bridge have never had any street view except for the approaches.

Outerbridge Crossing has never had any street view and still doesn't.

Goethals Bridge never had street view for the longest time but now does with the new replacement bridge.

Bayonne Bridge originally had street view but for some reason it was removed when they started the Raise the Roadway project and has not been put back ever since.

If I'm not mistaken, that has more to do with PANYNJ and MTAB&T prohibiting photography on those crossings than it does with Google not updating the streetview imagery.
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet (or where imagery is ancient)
Post by: debragga on June 18, 2020, 09:58:37 AM
A 14 mile stretch of US-80 between Delhi, LA and a few miles west of Tallulah, LA, save for the part of LA-577 that overlays US-80 in Waverly.
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet (or where imagery is ancient)
Post by: Super Mateo on June 18, 2020, 11:23:28 AM
US 52 is still missing imagery in Williamson, WV.  It's only a couple of blocks from US 119 to Prichard Street, but I'm surprised they skipped it.
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet (or where imagery is ancient)
Post by: Mr. Matté on June 18, 2020, 11:46:15 AM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on June 18, 2020, 09:50:35 AM
Quote from: BridgesToIdealism on June 18, 2020, 09:31:48 AM
Let's not forget about the major bridges in NYC that don't have Street view.

Verrazano-Narrows Bridge and George Washington Bridge have never had any street view except for the approaches.

Outerbridge Crossing has never had any street view and still doesn't.

Goethals Bridge never had street view for the longest time but now does with the new replacement bridge.

Bayonne Bridge originally had street view but for some reason it was removed when they started the Raise the Roadway project and has not been put back ever since.

If I'm not mistaken, that has more to do with PANYNJ and MTAB&T prohibiting photography on those crossings than it does with Google not updating the streetview imagery.

They do have imagery under the G.W. Bridge (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8514331,-73.954296,2a,27.2y,80.63h,108.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slnv4cITIyJ8bb-OzZow3Yg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) which I would think be more useful for the theoretical terrorist than what could be seen from the very publicly accessible road and two walkways.
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet (or where imagery is ancient)
Post by: kphoger on June 18, 2020, 02:14:58 PM
Are terrorists so lazy they can't even be bothered to scope the bridge in person first?
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet (or where imagery is ancient)
Post by: planxtymcgillicuddy on June 26, 2020, 09:22:01 PM
Parts of US-221 here in North Carolina lack adequate and up-to-date imagery (especially out of Jefferson, NC-most recent in some stretches goes back to 2009-eek!)
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet (or where imagery is ancient)
Post by: bm7 on June 27, 2020, 01:34:34 AM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on June 18, 2020, 09:50:35 AM
Quote from: BridgesToIdealism on June 18, 2020, 09:31:48 AM
Let's not forget about the major bridges in NYC that don't have Street view.

Verrazano-Narrows Bridge and George Washington Bridge have never had any street view except for the approaches.

Outerbridge Crossing has never had any street view and still doesn't.

Goethals Bridge never had street view for the longest time but now does with the new replacement bridge.

Bayonne Bridge originally had street view but for some reason it was removed when they started the Raise the Roadway project and has not been put back ever since.

If I'm not mistaken, that has more to do with PANYNJ and MTAB&T prohibiting photography on those crossings than it does with Google not updating the streetview imagery.
That sure does a lot of good, when you can just search any of those bridges on Youtube and find dozens of videos of people driving across.
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet (or where imagery is ancient)
Post by: TheGrassGuy on March 17, 2021, 09:28:26 AM
Huge chunks of the Natchez Trace Parkway are missing, as is OR-242. Also, many national parks, such as Crater Lakes and Acadia, are missing, but that's probably due to legal restrictions about bringing GSV cars into national parks.
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet (or where imagery is ancient)
Post by: Bickendan on March 19, 2021, 09:54:17 PM
Quote from: debragga on June 18, 2020, 09:58:37 AM
A 14 mile stretch of US-80 between Delhi, LA and a few miles west of Tallulah, LA, save for the part of LA-577 that overlays US-80 in Waverly.
Speaking of Delhi, all of India.
But, as it turns out, it's because India opted against GMSV citing national security concerns thanks to their western neighbor, and thanks to the 2008 terrorist attack in Mumbai.
Considering how India deals with more terrorism than we'd likely hear about here in the States, their opting out of GMSV is unfortunate, but makes sense. And makes it rather annoying for me drafting the AH, NE, NH, and SH systems for Travel Mapping. Terrorist jerks (https://wordforge.net/images/smilies/brooding.gif)
Title: Re: Major Roads GSV hasn't covered yet (or where imagery is ancient)
Post by: MinecraftNinja on March 19, 2021, 11:19:55 PM
I know how you feel. Also most of South Korea is not covered. It looks like most of the Massachusetts South Shore needs to be updated.