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Title: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: OCGuy81 on April 26, 2020, 11:00:54 PM
What's the least distance you'd need to travel on a parent route to find the next instance of the same 3-di?

Examples: On I-5, there's about 160 miles from the northern terminus of I-405 (OR) until I-405 (WA)

On I-10, there's about 110 miles between I-110 (MS) and I-110 (FL)

I feel there will be closer instances in the east.

to be fair, beltways or continuous routes don't count. These need to be separate routes, sorry I-495.
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: Roadgeekteen on April 26, 2020, 11:13:10 PM
I-291's in Hartford and Springfield about 22 miles apart. I-470's in Topeka and KC also close.
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: cwf1701 on April 26, 2020, 11:14:54 PM
I-475 Toledo/Flint approx 120 Miles
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: oscar on April 26, 2020, 11:27:20 PM
The I-395s in VA/DC and MD are about 60 miles apart via I-95.

The I-695s in DC and MD are even closer as the crow flies, but the one in DC doesn't directly connect to I-95 (you would need to take I-395, I-295, or DC/MD 295 to get to I-95).
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: sprjus4 on April 26, 2020, 11:36:52 PM
VA I-295 and MD I-295 are about 93 miles apart.

VA I-295 and NC I-295 are about 170 miles apart.
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: Hwy 61 Revisited on April 26, 2020, 11:38:18 PM
MD-DC I-295 and DE-NJ-PA I-295 are ~99 mi apart as the crow--rather, raven--flies.
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: Konza on April 26, 2020, 11:44:35 PM
How about the I-470s in Topeka and Kansas City?

Looks to be about 68 miles, even less as the crow flies.
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: sprjus4 on April 26, 2020, 11:49:48 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 26, 2020, 11:13:10 PM
I-470's in Topeka and KC also close.
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: Roadrunner75 on April 26, 2020, 11:59:20 PM
PA/NJ's I-295 and NY's I-295 are just under 60 miles apart as the crow flies, but about 88 miles if you actually went by interchanges with their parent route in PA and NY (and a little shorter if you count the non-interchange in NJ between 95 and 295.
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: jeffandnicole on April 27, 2020, 12:02:25 AM
I-495 in MD and I-495 in DE are 95 miles apart.
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on April 27, 2020, 12:06:19 AM
Did they ever connect the IN and KY 265s? If not, there's your winner.
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: jp the roadgeek on April 27, 2020, 12:16:34 AM
At their closest points as the crow flies (Riverhead and near Wrentham), I-495 in NY and I-495 in MA are about 104 miles apart.  Wouldn't be that much more if you took the New London ferry, but doubling back to NYC adds about 180 miles.

The I-695 in NY and the cancelled I-695 in NJ would have been roughly 35 miles apart as the crow flies.   
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: ozarkman417 on April 27, 2020, 12:28:32 AM
This one is a bit is a stretch, but I-580 (NV) and I-580 (CA) are a little over 200 miles apart.
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: DJ Particle on April 27, 2020, 01:58:44 AM
I-495 in MA and (unsigned) I-495 in ME.

71 miles....not THE closest, but likely one of the top 5, and possibly the closest involving travel in THREE states.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/43.7193872,-70.3054398/I-95,+Salisbury,+MA+01952/@43.3328722,-71.2116812,9z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x89e2e6adff07796d:0xbd34db3c065b5328!2m2!1d-70.8954222!2d42.8583836!3e0
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: ilpt4u on April 27, 2020, 07:37:24 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 27, 2020, 12:06:19 AM
Did they ever connect the IN and KY 265s? If not, there's your winner.
Not yet signed in the field, but AASHTO approved designating the East End Crossing as IN/KY I-265 for a unified I-265
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: Henry on April 27, 2020, 10:14:44 AM
Speaking of I-265, it and the former downtown Nashville route were 158 miles apart.

If the Pocahontas Parkway had been allowed to remain I-895 instead of downgraded to a VA route, it and the MD I-895 would've been 157 miles apart.
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: Roadgeekteen on April 27, 2020, 10:16:34 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 27, 2020, 12:06:19 AM
Did they ever connect the IN and KY 265s? If not, there's your winner.
Were they not considered the same route?
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on April 27, 2020, 10:21:09 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 27, 2020, 10:16:34 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 27, 2020, 12:06:19 AM
Did they ever connect the IN and KY 265s? If not, there's your winner.
Were they not considered the same route?

Until 2015, they were two separate, unconnected roads.  In 2015, a bridge and roadway was finished that connected the two.  Since then, the states have gotten approval to sign the new roadway as I-265 but have yet to actually do so.
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: hbelkins on April 27, 2020, 01:24:22 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on April 27, 2020, 10:21:09 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 27, 2020, 10:16:34 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 27, 2020, 12:06:19 AM
Did they ever connect the IN and KY 265s? If not, there's your winner.
Were they not considered the same route?

Until 2015, they were two separate, unconnected roads.  In 2015, a bridge and roadway was finished that connected the two.  Since then, the states have gotten approval to sign the new roadway as I-265 but have yet to actually do so.

And I've never heard what the holdup is on that. Given that Kentucky has breathlessly announced the news every time a parkway has been designated as a future interstate, I'm surprised nothing was ever released.
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: kphoger on April 27, 2020, 05:19:13 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 27, 2020, 12:06:19 AM
Did they ever connect the IN and KY 265s? If not, there's your winner.

Amazingly, though, even if it counts, it only beats Reply #2 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=26799.msg2494518#msg2494518) by less than five miles.
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: mrcmc888 on April 27, 2020, 07:41:28 PM
I-220 in Jackson to I-220 in Shreveport is around 215 miles.
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: bing101 on April 28, 2020, 10:29:30 AM
I-215 California, CC-215, I-215 Nevada has to be at least 200 miles apart.
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: jp the roadgeek on April 28, 2020, 02:53:40 PM
All of these are about 140 miles apart:

I-195 in MD and I-195 in NJ
I-195 in RI and I-195 in ME
I-295 in MA and I-295 in ME

At one time, I-895 in MD was 65 miles from the temporary I-895 in DE when I-95 was rerouted onto today's I-495.  And then I-895 in Delaware would have been about 50 miles from the unbuilt I-895 that would've utilized the Burlington-Bristol Bridge.
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: DTComposer on April 28, 2020, 09:02:03 PM
Quote from: ozarkman417 on April 27, 2020, 12:28:32 AM
This one is a bit is a stretch, but I-580 (NV) and I-580 (CA) are a little over 200 miles apart.

Interestingly (to me, anyway), the two points at which they are the closest to each other (172 miles) is I-580 (CA) at I-205 near Tracy to the southern end of I-580 (NV) in Carson City. The 172-mile path to connect them:

I-205/I-5/CA-4/CA-99/CA-88/NV-88/US-395

...doesn't go within 40 miles of the parent Interstate (I-80).
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: WNYroadgeek on April 29, 2020, 12:50:13 AM
NY I-490 (LeRoy) and OH I-490 (Cleveland) are 237 miles apart.

NY I-290 (Williamsville) and cancelled OH I-290 (Cleveland) would have been roughly 176 miles apart.
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: Roadgeekteen on April 29, 2020, 11:10:16 AM
I think these answers are getting a little far apart...
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: sprjus4 on April 29, 2020, 12:19:41 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 29, 2020, 11:10:16 AM
I think these answers are getting a little far apart...
Then you'd have a dead thread.
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: hotdogPi on April 29, 2020, 12:22:23 PM
I-291 is the closest unambiguous example. A-440, I-265, and I-710 are closer, but they're arguably two segments of the same road.
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: webny99 on April 29, 2020, 09:42:43 PM
Quote from: WNYroadgeek on April 29, 2020, 12:50:13 AM
NY I-490 (LeRoy) and OH I-490 (Cleveland) are 237 miles apart.

Quote from: sprjus4 on April 29, 2020, 12:19:41 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 29, 2020, 11:10:16 AM
I think these answers are getting a little far apart...
Then you'd have a dead thread.

Yeah, I had been pondering whether to mention I-490 (NY) and I-490 (OH) but decided to hold off. But really, there is nothing closer than that in this area given how I-90 in New York is famous for using all of I-190 through I-990 but not having any duplicates.
Title: Re: Closest duplicate 3-dis
Post by: kphoger on April 30, 2020, 11:18:44 AM
Quote from: webny99 on April 29, 2020, 09:42:43 PM
I had been pondering whether to mention I-490 (NY) and I-490 (OH) but decided to hold off.

It's a good thing you haven't.   ;-)