I searched the boards for this topic and it doesn't seem to come up in any of the searches, so, at the risk of having the thread merged or closed, I ask this question: What road posts the most distant city more or less continuously?
For our purposes "more or less continuously" will mean "appears on at least 36% of all distance signs showing two or more cities after that point and does not skip a whole state, province, or country through which the road passes whose centerline distance is more than 50 km. So, it's OK, if, for instance, "Minneapolis" is continuously alternated with "St. Paul"; and it's OK, if a road just nicks some state, province, or country and that state, province, or country, never posts a distance to it, but not OK, for instance, if Texas and New Mexico more or less continuously post the distance to Los Angeles, but Arizona doesn't until just before the border. That 36% has to be like 9 out of EVERY 25 or something like that.
Roads in sparsely settled areas are of minor interest. So, "Top of the World" highways and such may technically win, but are only of minor interest. I am particularly interested in places outside of North America, even if sparsely settled, like North Africa, Australia, and India, so don't be shy!
Probably not the longest anywhere, but in MI I-75 is posted for nearly 200 miles with Saginaw sb and Mackinac Bridge nb.
Chicago is regularly posted on I-80/90 from Cleveland, for example, about 340 miles.
Quote from: GaryV on April 27, 2020, 06:09:12 PM
Probably not the longest anywhere, but in MI I-75 is posted for nearly 200 miles with Saginaw sb and Mackinac Bridge nb.
The Mackinac Bridge is posted as far south as MM 119 at 222 miles. It's the same sign that has Saginaw 33 miles and Bay City 46 miles. I wonder how far south it's posted on US-127.
On the opposite end Saginaw's first mention is 185 miles on the same sign with Indian River 25 miles and Gaylord 55 miles.
Chicago is also frequently posted on I-57 northbound as far as the Missouri bootheel, maybe even farther. Distances up to 400 miles. Going in the other direction, signs for Memphis also go over 400 miles if my memory is correct. Chicago is also commonly posted along US 41 northbound starting in Evansville.
The first mileage sign for US 60 westbound in Missouri contains "Springfield 255", and Springfield is consistently posted along the route. Joplin is a regular along I-44 WB starting in St. Louis, distances over 250 miles.
Along I-40, Albuquerque is pretty consistent starting from Amarillo (over 200 miles) in the east and Flagstaff (over 300 miles) in the west.
I think the longest distance I have a photo of is 390 miles to New York City along I-80 in eastern Ohio.
El Paso is the main city signed west of San Antonio on I-10 west. There's a lot of I-10 construction on street view but this is furthest distance I could find. It's likely there are some closer to the loop in San Antonio. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200428/5352eb27f0cf84f64d2c20a7e139e673.jpg)
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New York City is consistently posted on the eastbound (and eventually southbound) NY State Thruway starting at the Pennsylvania state line. That's 496 miles away if you take the Thruway the whole way.
Obviously, the shortest route to New York City from there would actually be I-86/NY 17. Taking the Thruway adds an extra 80 miles and 1 to 1-1/2 hours. But, the Thruway mileage is still posted along the entire route, despite the fact that it's completely irrelevant information until you're east of Utica.
For some reason, Limon, CO, is posted on distance signs in Kansas stretching back several thousand miles. Near the west, it starts to alternate with Denver.
So the signs on either side of US-6 don't count :-D Got it!
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 27, 2020, 11:44:55 PM
... in Kansas stretching back several thousand miles...
Kansas isn't thousands of miles long - it only seems like it is. :D
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 27, 2020, 11:44:55 PM
For some reason, Limon, CO, is posted on distance signs in Kansas stretching back several thousand miles. Near the west, it starts to alternate with Denver.
I think you meant hundreds. That drive on I-70 is long, but not
that long. :eyebrow:
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Quote from: GaryV on April 28, 2020, 08:17:27 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 27, 2020, 11:44:55 PM
... in Kansas stretching back several thousand miles...
Kansas isn't thousands of miles long - it only seems like it is. :D
Yikes the plains really do mess up your mind
Quote from: csw on April 27, 2020, 07:19:46 PM
Along I-40, Albuquerque is pretty consistent starting from Amarillo (over 200 miles) in the east
I thought it was more like 300, but the Googler says 288. Up until about 20-25 years ago (not sure exactly when), the next control city on I-40 from Amarillo was Tucumcari. It was weird seeing Albuquerque on the WB BGSes the last time I was up that way.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 28, 2020, 09:27:32 AM
Quote from: GaryV on April 28, 2020, 08:17:27 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 27, 2020, 11:44:55 PM
... in Kansas stretching back several thousand miles...
Kansas isn't thousands of miles long - it only seems like it is. :D
Yikes the plains really do mess up your mind
My own response is that Portland shows up on I-5 at the Sacramento-San Joaqiun county line at something like 632 miles, but, since I don't regularly go much north of Sacramento on I-5, I don't know how consistently Portland is posted on distance signs. I, for instance, don't know, if there are ANY distance signs (with 2 or more cities on them) between that sign and Sacramento. The control city on I-5 from downtown Sacramento, is Redding or Red Bluff. Portland isn't mentioned at on WB US-50/I-305 at I-5 at all.
Quote from: csw on April 27, 2020, 07:19:46 PM
Chicago is also frequently posted on I-57 northbound as far as the Missouri bootheel, maybe even farther. Distances up to 400 miles. Going in the other direction, signs for Memphis also go over 400 miles if my memory is correct. Chicago is also commonly posted along US 41 northbound starting in Evansville.
The first mileage sign for US 60 westbound in Missouri contains "Springfield 255", and Springfield is consistently posted along the route. Joplin is a regular along I-44 WB starting in St. Louis, distances over 250 miles.
Along I-40, Albuquerque is pretty consistent starting from Amarillo (over 200 miles) in the east and Flagstaff (over 300 miles) in the west.
I think the longest distance I have a photo of is 390 miles to New York City along I-80 in eastern Ohio.
I don't recall Chicago being posted on US 41 north of I-64 but south of I-70. Terre Haute, yes, and even Vincennes.
Quote from: hbelkins on April 28, 2020, 01:44:58 PM
I don't recall Chicago being posted on US 41 north of I-64 but south of I-70. Terre Haute, yes, and even Vincennes.
This is the sign I was thinking of - it's just north of the I-64/US 41 interchange. But looking at some of my other photos, Chicago doesn't seem to appear again until north of I-74 or even Attica. So it doesn't really fit the thread after all.
(https://i.imgur.com/B9Adrv4.jpg)
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 28, 2020, 09:27:32 AM
Quote from: GaryV on April 28, 2020, 08:17:27 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 27, 2020, 11:44:55 PM
... in Kansas stretching back several thousand miles...
Kansas isn't thousands of miles long - it only seems like it is. :D
Yikes the plains really do mess up your mind
It's really not that bad. I found Bristol to Nashville to be a lot more frustrating for a relatively comparable distance. .
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 28, 2020, 09:27:32 AM
Quote from: GaryV on April 28, 2020, 08:17:27 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 27, 2020, 11:44:55 PM
... in Kansas stretching back several thousand miles...
Kansas isn't thousands of miles long - it only seems like it is. :D
Yikes the plains really do mess up your mind
It's really not that bad. I found Bristol to Nashville to be a lot more frustrating for a relatively comparable distance. .
I-81 frustrates most people, as does I-40 across TN.
The farthest distance I've ever personally seen on a mileage sign is the 551 miles to Reno from Summit Park, Utah on I-80. With a few exceptions, Reno is more or less continuously posted on distance signs throughout Utah (haven't been westbound on I-80 in Nevada recently enough to remember what signage is like there).
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4629/39845338331_5a856fd353_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23GZLTV)
There used to be a 781 mile to San Francisco mileage sign on I-80.
Quote from: michravera on April 28, 2020, 12:40:07 PM
My own response is that Portland shows up on I-5 at the Sacramento-San Joaqiun county line at something like 632 miles.
628 miles, posted just north of the CA 12 interchange. Photo from 2005 at the AARoads I-5 page, but Street View confirms it's still there as of 2019:
(https://www.aaroads.com/california/images005/i-005_nb_exit_487_02.jpg)
Quote from: csw on April 27, 2020, 07:19:46 PM
Joplin is a regular along I-44 WB starting in St. Louis, distances over 250 miles.
I haven't driven most of I-44 between St. Louis and Springfield for a few years, but on the last trip I don't recall Joplin showing up that much - mainly Springfield and other intermediate towns (such as Cuba (https://goo.gl/maps/2r3oMJtVtN2yGF4eA) and Rolla (https://goo.gl/maps/Tig9vKJTPdsLU8oY9)). Even Tulsa - used as the main control city at I-55 and I-270 - is (was?) sparing used.
I'm also reminded of this sign that I posted in the forum back in 2011. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=4416.msg96798#msg96798) Spring 1983, I-40 westbound at the TX/NM line. It's long gone now, alas.
(https://i.imgur.com/aW3zSbJ.png)
(The original photo I posted is also long gone, thanks to dead websites. I just found the original SX-70 print and rescanned it, but nine more years haven't been kind to it.)
Quote from: Kniwt on April 28, 2020, 10:35:07 PM
I'm also reminded of this sign that I posted in the forum back in 2011. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=4416.msg96798#msg96798) Spring 1983, I-40 westbound at the TX/NM line. It's long gone now, alas.
(https://i.imgur.com/aW3zSbJ.png)
(The original photo I posted is also long gone, thanks to dead websites. I just found the original SX-70 print and rescanned it, but nine more years haven't been kind to it.)
I'm not sure if LA is continuously posted past that.
Quote from: Rothman on April 28, 2020, 09:09:20 PM
There used to be a 781 mile to San Francisco mileage sign on I-80.
I can completely believe you. But, we don't, for the purposes of this thread, care about *a* 781 mile sign anymore than we care about a Capetown distance sign in Rabat. There are plenty of one-off or novelty signs that indicate vast distances. We are looking for "continuously posted."
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 28, 2020, 10:36:33 PM
Quote from: Kniwt on April 28, 2020, 10:35:07 PM
I'm also reminded of this sign that I posted in the forum back in 2011. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=4416.msg96798#msg96798) Spring 1983, I-40 westbound at the TX/NM line. It's long gone now, alas.
(https://i.imgur.com/aW3zSbJ.png)
(The original photo I posted is also long gone, thanks to dead websites. I just found the original SX-70 print and rescanned it, but nine more years haven't been kind to it.)
I'm not sure if LA is continuously posted past that.
In that case, it doesn't count since it's not "continuously posted."
Quote from: US 89 on April 28, 2020, 07:26:06 PM
The farthest distance I've ever personally seen on a mileage sign is the 551 miles to Reno from Summit Park, Utah on I-80. With a few exceptions, Reno is more or less continuously posted on distance signs throughout Utah (haven't been westbound on I-80 in Nevada recently enough to remember what signage is like there).
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4629/39845338331_5a856fd353_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23GZLTV)
My rules for "continuously posted" are designed to allow this, if NVDoT alternates between Battle Mountain and Reno and then Winnemuca and Reno, for instance. If NVDot more or less consistently posts the distance to Salt Lake along I-80, I can't think of any reason that they wouldn't post the distance to Reno!
I know that Los Angeles shows up at least just outside of Sacramento on I-5 and CASR-99 and just outside of San Jose (at least south of Gilroy and CASR-152) on US-101 (which would be longer) and is "continuously posted" thereafter. As far as I remember, along CASR-1 (which is probably the longest direct route between San Francisco and Los Angeles) distance signs don't mention Los Angeles north of Santa Barbara at all.
My question is how continuously Portland is posted north of Sacramento (which would beat your 551, if it is). Your Reno sign might well be a winner (at least in the contiguous US).
Quote from: csw on April 27, 2020, 07:19:46 PM
Chicago is also frequently posted on I-57 northbound as far as the Missouri bootheel, maybe even farther. Distances up to 400 miles.
Officially the first mileage sign on I-57 outside of Sikeston MO says Chicago is 395 miles.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.8775541,-89.5214429,3a,75y,59.06h,73.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSG-H0u2JLTcrEZq82xShKQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
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Quote from: Rothman on April 28, 2020, 09:09:20 PM
There used to be a 781 mile to San Francisco mileage sign on I-80.
I can completely believe you. But, we don't, for the purposes of this thread, care about *a* 781 mile sign anymore than we care about a Capetown distance sign in Rabat. There are plenty of one-off or novelty signs that indicate vast distances. We are looking for "continuously posted."
Oh.
There's a sign for Sacramento on US 50 as it leaves Ocean City, MD.
Quote from: Rothman on April 29, 2020, 04:15:33 PM
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Quote from: Rothman on April 28, 2020, 09:09:20 PM
There used to be a 781 mile to San Francisco mileage sign on I-80.
I can completely believe you. But, we don't, for the purposes of this thread, care about *a* 781 mile sign anymore than we care about a Capetown distance sign in Rabat. There are plenty of one-off or novelty signs that indicate vast distances. We are looking for "continuously posted."
Oh.
There's a sign for Sacramento on US 50 as it leaves Ocean City, MD.
You are really not comprehending what "continuously posted" means.
How about posted almost all along the route ? I am thinking Indianapolis on 74. Not including the split segment in NC.
Also with 41 north of Evansville it might not fit this but it might make a longest mileage on a non interstate?
Quote from: 3467 on April 29, 2020, 05:28:58 PM
How about posted almost all along the route ? I am thinking Indianapolis on 74. Not including the split segment in NC.
Also with 41 north of Evansville it might not fit this but it might make a longest mileage on a non interstate?
Indianapolis is first mentioned on I-74 Eastbound after US 150/IL 97 at Exit 54. The mileage is 243 miles.
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Quote from: Rothman on April 28, 2020, 09:09:20 PM
There used to be a 781 mile to San Francisco mileage sign on I-80.
I can completely believe you. But, we don't, for the purposes of this thread, care about *a* 781 mile sign anymore than we care about a Capetown distance sign in Rabat. There are plenty of one-off or novelty signs that indicate vast distances. We are looking for "continuously posted."
Oh.
There's a sign for Sacramento on US 50 as it leaves Ocean City, MD.
You are really not comprehending what "continuously posted" means.
There's a sign in Bishop, CA for Provincetown, MA on US 6.
Quote from: Rothman on April 29, 2020, 06:23:10 PM
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Quote from: Rothman on April 28, 2020, 09:09:20 PM
There used to be a 781 mile to San Francisco mileage sign on I-80.
I can completely believe you. But, we don't, for the purposes of this thread, care about *a* 781 mile sign anymore than we care about a Capetown distance sign in Rabat. There are plenty of one-off or novelty signs that indicate vast distances. We are looking for "continuously posted."
Oh.
There's a sign for Sacramento on US 50 as it leaves Ocean City, MD.
You are really not comprehending what "continuously posted" means.
There's a sign in Bishop, CA for Provincetown, MA on US 6.
You have to be blind, sarcastic, trolling, or a mix of the three.
There's a [troll] [/troll] tag, but it doesn't display for anyone except the person using it.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 29, 2020, 06:45:53 PM
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Quote from: michravera on April 29, 2020, 05:16:43 AM
Quote from: Rothman on April 28, 2020, 09:09:20 PM
There used to be a 781 mile to San Francisco mileage sign on I-80.
I can completely believe you. But, we don't, for the purposes of this thread, care about *a* 781 mile sign anymore than we care about a Capetown distance sign in Rabat. There are plenty of one-off or novelty signs that indicate vast distances. We are looking for "continuously posted."
Oh.
There's a sign for Sacramento on US 50 as it leaves Ocean City, MD.
You are really not comprehending what "continuously posted" means.
There's a sign in Bishop, CA for Provincetown, MA on US 6.
You have to be blind, sarcastic, trolling, or a mix of the three.
There's also a sign for Barstow, CA in Wilmington, NC, at the start of I-40.
Quote from: csw on April 29, 2020, 07:22:50 PM
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Quote from: Rothman on April 28, 2020, 09:09:20 PM
There used to be a 781 mile to San Francisco mileage sign on I-80.
I can completely believe you. But, we don't, for the purposes of this thread, care about *a* 781 mile sign anymore than we care about a Capetown distance sign in Rabat. There are plenty of one-off or novelty signs that indicate vast distances. We are looking for "continuously posted."
Oh.
There's a sign for Sacramento on US 50 as it leaves Ocean City, MD.
You are really not comprehending what "continuously posted" means.
There's a sign in Bishop, CA for Provincetown, MA on US 6.
You have to be blind, sarcastic, trolling, or a mix of the three.
There's also a sign for Barstow, CA in Wilmington, NC, at the start of I-40.
Not continuously posted though.
For the non-troll members, here are the basic qualifications:
1. Starting from the sign you post, at least 36% of all distance signs on that road must include the same destination city you post. (This means it counts if only every other sign uses that city, but it doesn't count if only one out of every three does.)
2. No entire state or other sub-national equivalent along the way can be completely devoid of such qualifying signage.
3. Rule #2 does not apply if the route only passes through that state for less than 50 km.
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Quote from: michravera on April 29, 2020, 05:16:43 AM
Quote from: Rothman on April 28, 2020, 09:09:20 PM
There used to be a 781 mile to San Francisco mileage sign on I-80.
I can completely believe you. But, we don't, for the purposes of this thread, care about *a* 781 mile sign anymore than we care about a Capetown distance sign in Rabat. There are plenty of one-off or novelty signs that indicate vast distances. We are looking for "continuously posted."
Oh.
There's a sign for Sacramento on US 50 as it leaves Ocean City, MD.
You are really not comprehending what "continuously posted" means.
There's a sign in Bishop, CA for Provincetown, MA on US 6.
You have to be blind, sarcastic, trolling, or a mix of the three.
There's also a sign for Barstow, CA in Wilmington, NC, at the start of I-40.
Not continuously posted though.
I'm pretty sure that sign has been posted continuously ever since it was erected. If not, then almost.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 29, 2020, 07:28:27 PM
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Quote from: Rothman on April 28, 2020, 09:09:20 PM
There used to be a 781 mile to San Francisco mileage sign on I-80.
I can completely believe you. But, we don't, for the purposes of this thread, care about *a* 781 mile sign anymore than we care about a Capetown distance sign in Rabat. There are plenty of one-off or novelty signs that indicate vast distances. We are looking for "continuously posted."
Oh.
There's a sign for Sacramento on US 50 as it leaves Ocean City, MD.
You are really not comprehending what "continuously posted" means.
There's a sign in Bishop, CA for Provincetown, MA on US 6.
You have to be blind, sarcastic, trolling, or a mix of the three.
There's also a sign for Barstow, CA in Wilmington, NC, at the start of I-40.
Not continuously posted though.
Ok, fine. There's also a sign at the other end indicating the mileage back to Wilmington.
A real troll would try to find out what sign could be posted in the most consecutive number of replies.
Quote from: kphoger on April 29, 2020, 07:30:25 PM
For the non-troll members, here are the basic qualifications:
1. Starting from the sign you post, at least 36% of all distance signs on that road must include the same destination city you post. (This means it counts if only every other sign uses that city, but it doesn't count if only one out of every three does.)
2. No entire state or other sub-national equivalent along the way can be completely devoid of such qualifying signage.
3. Rule #2 does not apply if the route only passes through that state for less than 50 km.
NYC is posted on
100% of Thruway mileage signs starting 496 miles away. I think that makes it an automatic winner. I would say anything less than 50% or even 75%, is kind of lame. I could differ from the OP on this, but to me, "continuously posted" really does mean 100%, no exceptions.
Quote from: hobsini2 on April 29, 2020, 04:14:49 PM
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Chicago is also frequently posted on I-57 northbound as far as the Missouri bootheel, maybe even farther. Distances up to 400 miles.
Officially the first mileage sign on I-57 outside of Sikeston MO says Chicago is 395 miles.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.8775541,-89.5214429,3a,75y,59.06h,73.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSG-H0u2JLTcrEZq82xShKQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
If/when the upgrade to US 60/67 in MO and AR bringing I-57 to Little Rock occurs, I wonder how far south Chicago will be used as the NB Control and on the NB distance signage...Leaving Little Rock is certainly plausible
And on the flipside, will Little Rock take the place of Memphis as the SB Control leaving Chicago thru IL and MO, someday? With the SB distance signage all changed as well?
Hopefully we will find out in the next 10 years or so!
^ I suspect I-57 will keep Memphis as a control city in Illinois (I don't see Illinois being eager to change all the signs, based on things went with I-41), with Little Rock not making an appearance until the interchange with I-55 in Missouri. Though it would not surprise me either if Little Rock didn't appear until Poplar Bluff.
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Quote from: csw on April 27, 2020, 07:19:46 PM
Chicago is also frequently posted on I-57 northbound as far as the Missouri bootheel, maybe even farther. Distances up to 400 miles.
Officially the first mileage sign on I-57 outside of Sikeston MO says Chicago is 395 miles.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.8775541,-89.5214429,3a,75y,59.06h,73.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSG-H0u2JLTcrEZq82xShKQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
If/when the upgrade to US 60/67 in MO and AR bringing I-57 to Little Rock occurs, I wonder how far south Chicago will be used as the NB Control and on the NB distance signage...Leaving Little Rock is certainly plausible
And on the flipside, will Little Rock take the place of Memphis as the SB Control leaving Chicago thru IL and MO, someday? With the SB distance signage all changed as well?
Hopefully we will find out in the next 10 years or so!
What’s most likely going to happen:
Drivers on I-57 southbound won’t likely see any mentions of Little Rock until after passing I-55 (maybe before I-55 after US 60 merges in with I-57...and even then, it would most likely be on the distance signs before showing up on BGS’s). Conversely, I-57 northbound from Little Rock will likely be given St. Louis to start, with mentions of Chicago probably starting after US 67 leaves the freeway (on distance signs, but not yet on BGS’s until passing I-55).
Basically, I see I-57 given the same role from Little Rock northeast as it currently is from Chicago southwest: given a major I-55 control city while bypassing other cities I-55 runs through.
EDIT: I do see Poplar Bluff mentioned as a double up with Little Rock at the I-55 interchange, with distance signs mentioning both cities, while I-57 southbound entry points between I-55 and Poplar Bluff give PB the priority.
Quote from: kphoger on April 29, 2020, 07:30:25 PM
For the non-troll members, here are the basic qualifications:
1. Starting from the sign you post, at least 36% of all distance signs on that road must include the same destination city you post. (This means it counts if only every other sign uses that city, but it doesn't count if only one out of every three does.)
2. No entire state or other sub-national equivalent along the way can be completely devoid of such qualifying signage.
3. Rule #2 does not apply if the route only passes through that state for less than 50 km.
Pretty Close!
I was even willing to let the distance posting miss a whole COUNTRY for less than 50 km. The idea is that some road that only clips a jurisdiction or a short section in one jurisdiction that makes a policy of not posting cities outside of the jurisdiction wouldn't necessarily disqualify it.
The 36% requirement was for signs
with two or more cities. So, if the distance posted is just to the next city, it doesn't count against the total. It's entirely reasonable to be continuously posting a more distant city and leave it off of a sign that only shows the next city or two a couple times.
The idea was that alternating was OK. It was also OK, if even
some of the alternating signs with two or more cities miss. My take was that once the posting rate got below about 36% one wouldn't reasonably say that it is continuously posted. Ocean City is
posted along US-50 starting in West Sacramento. It misses over 150 km in California, all of Nevada, and probably most of the next 8 or 10 states before turning up again about half-way through Maryland. I think of 36% as roughly where the line between "continuously posted" and "frequently mentioned" lies.
Look! If someone has a candidate that is only 32% that they think of as "continuously posted" and doesn't miss vast sections, I'd like to hear about it.
The unverified contiguous US contenders so far are "Reno on WB I-80 showing up at 551 miles" and "Portland on NB I-5 showing up at 632 miles". The reason that I am saying that these are "unverified" is that no one has yet given even a personal assertion that these are "continuously posted". Both of us who have mentioned our signs haven't driven or ridden the portion sufficiently often that would give us the right to make the assertion with any better certitude than "I think so".
Quote from: hobsini2 on April 29, 2020, 05:42:34 PM
Quote from: 3467 on April 29, 2020, 05:28:58 PM
How about posted almost all along the route ? I am thinking Indianapolis on 74. Not including the split segment in NC.
Also with 41 north of Evansville it might not fit this but it might make a longest mileage on a non interstate?
Indianapolis is first mentioned on I-74 Eastbound after US 150/IL 97 at Exit 54. The mileage is 243 miles.
If you include the mileage for I-74 Westbound, out of Cincy, there is another 95 miles (from I-75 to I-465 SE), so it would be a combined 338 miles.
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on April 30, 2020, 12:34:25 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on April 29, 2020, 05:42:34 PM
Quote from: 3467 on April 29, 2020, 05:28:58 PM
How about posted almost all along the route ? I am thinking Indianapolis on 74. Not including the split segment in NC.
Also with 41 north of Evansville it might not fit this but it might make a longest mileage on a non interstate?
Indianapolis is first mentioned on I-74 Eastbound after US 150/IL 97 at Exit 54. The mileage is 243 miles.
If you include the mileage for I-74 Westbound, out of Cincy, there is another 95 miles (from I-75 to I-465 SE), so it would be a combined 338 miles.
I didn't actually say that the road couldn't change names. I think that we allow "continuously posted" along any reasonable route (not just one sign where you can loop through and see).
That's what I was thinking Hot Rod. It's all but the last 47 miles of the route. Indy is included to 90 percent of the route. If we did a thread this sort of thing would be dominated by the shorter 2 digits.
It's not a far distance but Owosso is included on the sign north of I-69 on M-13. Owosso isn't on M-13, you have to make a left on M-21 to go to Owosso.
Can we count New York City being posted on I-95 North outside of Baltimore?
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on May 17, 2020, 09:21:24 PM
Can we count New York City being posted on I-95 North outside of Baltimore?
I know it's continuously a control city, not sure about distance signs.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 17, 2020, 10:07:24 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on May 17, 2020, 09:21:24 PM
Can we count New York City being posted on I-95 North outside of Baltimore?
I know it's continuously a control city, not sure about distance signs.
I suppose that you can count it, if it's true. But, at under 200 miles, it won't even get close to even Los Angeles from outside Sacramento on both CASR-99 and I-5 (and US-101) all of which show up at just under 400 miles. I don't even allege that the LA distance is even remarkable. Reno from near Salt Lake City (540-something miles) and Portland from near Sacramento (632 miles) both dwarf even the LA number. The question is one of how continuously posted the distances for Reno and Portland are. I suspect that there are longer distances even than Portland on I-5. Also, Salt Lake City is the Control City on I-15 in Las Vegas. I don't remember seeing distance signs or how far they indicated.
Quote from: michravera on May 18, 2020, 06:33:07 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 17, 2020, 10:07:24 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on May 17, 2020, 09:21:24 PM
Can we count New York City being posted on I-95 North outside of Baltimore?
I know it's continuously a control city, not sure about distance signs.
I suppose that you can count it, if it's true. But, at under 200 miles, it won't even get close to even Los Angeles from outside Sacramento on both CASR-99 and I-5 (and US-101) all of which show up at just under 400 miles. I don't even allege that the LA distance is even remarkable. Reno from near Salt Lake City (540-something miles) and Portland from near Sacramento (632 miles) both dwarf even the LA number. The question is one of how continuously posted the distances for Reno and Portland are. I suspect that there are longer distances even than Portland on I-5. Also, Salt Lake City is the Control City on I-15 in Las Vegas. I don't remember seeing distance signs or how far they indicated.
Likewise, Las Vegas is the southbound control on I-15 in Salt Lake. I believe the longest distance to Vegas posted on a mileage sign is 402 miles on this sign in Draper (https://goo.gl/maps/EDQzuGxT8EGGdytS9).
Quote from: michravera on May 18, 2020, 06:33:07 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 17, 2020, 10:07:24 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on May 17, 2020, 09:21:24 PM
Can we count New York City being posted on I-95 North outside of Baltimore?
I know it's continuously a control city, not sure about distance signs.
I suppose that you can count it, if it's true. But, at under 200 miles, it won't even get close to even Los Angeles from outside Sacramento on both CASR-99 and I-5 (and US-101) all of which show up at just under 400 miles. I don't even allege that the LA distance is even remarkable. Reno from near Salt Lake City (540-something miles) and Portland from near Sacramento (632 miles) both dwarf even the LA number. The question is one of how continuously posted the distances for Reno and Portland are. I suspect that there are longer distances even than Portland on I-5. Also, Salt Lake City is the Control City on I-15 in Las Vegas. I don't remember seeing distance signs or how far they indicated.
Does look like anyone gave a definitive answer for whether the Portland or Reno distances qualify so here's what I found:
- Starting with the sign south of Sacramento, Portland is listed on 8 out of the next 25 signs, which leaves it one sign short of qualifying according to your rules. I based this off of the AARoads pages, so hopefully those didn't miss any signs. If you took the percentage for the whole distance from Sacramento I'm sure it'd come out to over 36%, so the "continuity" of the posting may be disputed (even the 26th and 27th signs show Portland, which I'm sure would be enough to bump it over).
- With Reno, US 89 already vouched for continuity in Utah, and looking at Nevada in Streetview, it appears that Reno is listed on distance signs through Nevada on I-80 WB, with only a few exception, so I'd say we have a new winner over El Paso for the US!
Also, the OP did ask for international examples as well, so I'd offer Adelaide on National Route 1 in Australia, listed at a distance of 1986 km (1234 mi) on this sign (https://goo.gl/maps/MsQF64XR8dyuR6cNA). I can't vouch for how continuously it is posted, however.
Quote from: webny99 on April 29, 2020, 09:07:20 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 29, 2020, 07:30:25 PM
For the non-troll members, here are the basic qualifications:
1. Starting from the sign you post, at least 36% of all distance signs on that road must include the same destination city you post. (This means it counts if only every other sign uses that city, but it doesn't count if only one out of every three does.)
2. No entire state or other sub-national equivalent along the way can be completely devoid of such qualifying signage.
3. Rule #2 does not apply if the route only passes through that state for less than 50 km.
NYC is posted on 100% of Thruway mileage signs starting 496 miles away. I think that makes it an automatic winner. I would say anything less than 50% or even 75%, is kind of lame. I could differ from the OP on this, but to me, "continuously posted" really does mean 100%, no exceptions.
Nope, there's a sign between Exits 57 and 56 when headed eastbound that includes only Buffalo and Niagara Falls, no mention of New York
Quote from: stevashe on August 18, 2020, 01:09:29 PM
Quote from: michravera on May 18, 2020, 06:33:07 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 17, 2020, 10:07:24 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on May 17, 2020, 09:21:24 PM
Can we count New York City being posted on I-95 North outside of Baltimore?
I know it's continuously a control city, not sure about distance signs.
I suppose that you can count it, if it's true. But, at under 200 miles, it won't even get close to even Los Angeles from outside Sacramento on both CASR-99 and I-5 (and US-101) all of which show up at just under 400 miles. I don't even allege that the LA distance is even remarkable. Reno from near Salt Lake City (540-something miles) and Portland from near Sacramento (632 miles) both dwarf even the LA number. The question is one of how continuously posted the distances for Reno and Portland are. I suspect that there are longer distances even than Portland on I-5. Also, Salt Lake City is the Control City on I-15 in Las Vegas. I don't remember seeing distance signs or how far they indicated.
Does look like anyone gave a definitive answer for whether the Portland or Reno distances qualify so here's what I found:
- Starting with the sign south of Sacramento, Portland is listed on 8 out of the next 25 signs, which leaves it one sign short of qualifying according to your rules. I based this off of the AARoads pages, so hopefully those didn't miss any signs. If you took the percentage for the whole distance from Sacramento I'm sure it'd come out to over 36%, so the "continuity" of the posting may be disputed (even the 26th and 27th signs show Portland, which I'm sure would be enough to bump it over).
- With Reno, US 89 already vouched for continuity in Utah, and looking at Nevada in Streetview, it appears that Reno is listed on distance signs through Nevada on I-80 WB, with only a few exception, so I'd say we have a new winner over El Paso for the US!
Also, the OP did ask for international examples as well, so I'd offer Adelaide on National Route 1 in Australia, listed at a distance of 1986 km (1234 mi) on this sign (https://goo.gl/maps/MsQF64XR8dyuR6cNA). I can't vouch for how continuously it is posted, however.
So, it looks like Portland's "continuousness" might or might not begin at the one south of Sacramento (632 mi / 1017 km or 622mi / 1002 km), but gets more definitely "continuous" by my definition a bit later. But, Reno from Salt Lake (or farther) is indisputable. I thank those who researched it. I intentionally picked 36% so that two cities could alternate and be considered "continuous". It was my intention that signs that only showed one or two cities shouldn't count. My idea was that 36% was the dividing line between "continuously posted" and "occasionally mentioned".
In Florida Miami appears on mileage signs 340 or so miles out on I-95 but disappears after Palm Bay as FDOT D4 likes West Palm Beach over Miami. They maintain the freeway from Indian River to Miami-Dade County Line.
Naples is used on every sign for I-75 south religiously from Wesley Chapel southward.
Pensacola is used from Tallahassee west on I-10 exclusively.
I was just thinking: on I-5 southbound in California, where does one start consistently seeing signs for Los Angeles? I would think they would begin just south of Sacramento, but I could be mistaken.
Coming west on I-90 in Massachusetts, Albany is posted for quite a while. First westbound mention is at 128 miles (https://goo.gl/maps/DRB7rHKe8qbZFVVJ7).
Coming east, Boston is posted as far as 163 miles (https://goo.gl/maps/JRUwCiZouuWpjKoe7).
(If we counted the distance it is used as a control city, Albany is posted from 158 miles (https://goo.gl/maps/DxTanE4sqNzQjS1w5), and Boston from 171 miles (https://goo.gl/maps/FfMFuZpnWu5xqVma8).)
Quote from: KCRoadFan on August 20, 2020, 01:30:09 AM
I was just thinking: on I-5 southbound in California, where does one start consistently seeing signs for Los Angeles? I would think they would begin just south of Sacramento, but I could be mistaken.
I don't REMEMBER any and certainly not consistent signs for LA on I-5 north or Sacramento. LA is consistently posted on US-101 at least south of Gilroy. North of Gilroy, distance would be misleading because you could stay on US-101 or take CASR-152 to I-5.
I live in the UK where signage inconsistency is a huge issue. The problem is that most routes have their signs designed by local authorities, meaning that there's no central oversight which leads to glaring inconsistencies when crossing administrative borders.
An example is the M1 heading South through Derbyshire. The mileage signs consistently sign:
"Derby, Nottingham, Leicester, Rugby", then:
"Leicester, Rugby, Northampton"
Once you cross over into Nottinghamshire, you totally lose any mention of Rugby or Northampton (despite the fact you're 40 and 60 miles from the respective turnoffs), and instead you're greeted with:
"Loughborough, Leicester, London"
Quote from: GaryV on April 27, 2020, 06:09:12 PM
Probably not the longest anywhere, but in MI I-75 is posted for nearly 200 miles with Saginaw sb and Mackinac Bridge nb.
Over 200 miles from the Mackinac Bridge, the furthest south sign has Saginaw 33, Bay City 46 and Mackinac Br 222 on it that sign is between the Corunna and Pierson Road exits in Flint. The furthest north sign for Saginaw is just south of the M-123 exit that sign has St. Ignace 8, Mackinaw City 15 and Saginaw 203 on it. I don't think it's the furthest either but it could be for Michigan.
When I posted in the third post of this thread just now realizing this is an old thread I was wrong about Saginaw being featured on a distance sign at 185 miles away. The correct distance and location of the sign is 203 miles and it's just south of the M-123 exit in the U.P.
This is similar to the Michigan example: Binghamton is continuously posted on distance signs from Jamestown (distances listed over 200 miles). https://goo.gl/maps/6vdiqDRrxjYKDVJo7 (https://goo.gl/maps/6vdiqDRrxjYKDVJo7) This is a sign listing 204 miles to Binghamton. There might be one further back by the Bemus Point exit.
EDIT: Yep, found one with 216 miles. https://goo.gl/maps/JXFgYjYzEpH4asZ99 (https://goo.gl/maps/JXFgYjYzEpH4asZ99)
But what surprised me is that it's actually posted from Findley Lake (245 miles) https://goo.gl/maps/aZVdHModsXYneyG17 (https://goo.gl/maps/aZVdHModsXYneyG17). PA just posts Findley Lake and Jamestown.
Was just investigating crossing from Oman to Saudi Arabia on my upcoming trip, and happened to come across this sign in a blog post. It is continuously signed every 10km as well per the blog.
(https://thedesertdiva.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/2022-10-23-15.09.52-1024x585.jpg)
Seeing activity back in this thread made me think of Fairbanks, Anchorage, and Whitehorse as possible candidates. My travels up there were 20+ years ago and I didn't get a ton of pictures of distance signs. There aren't that many distance signs anyway, but I bet those major destinations are on distance signs pretty consistently for hundreds of miles on the roads that serve them.
Quote from: Jim on May 11, 2023, 05:31:45 PM
Seeing activity back in this thread made me think of Fairbanks, Anchorage, and Whitehorse as possible candidates. My travels up there were 20+ years ago and I didn't get a ton of pictures of distance signs. There aren't that many distance signs anyway, but I bet those major destinations are on distance signs pretty consistently for hundreds of miles on that roads that serve them.
I think in that neck of the woods, Inuvik is probably the highest.
Quote from: Jim on May 11, 2023, 05:31:45 PM
Seeing activity back in this thread made me think of Fairbanks, Anchorage, and Whitehorse as possible candidates. My travels up there were 20+ years ago and I didn't get a ton of pictures of distance signs. There aren't that many distance signs anyway, but I bet those major destinations are on distance signs pretty consistently for hundreds of miles on that roads that serve them.
I was just in Alaska back in March so I saw some of the distance signs in the state. North of Anchorage, in Wasilla, there was a sign for Fairbanks with a distance of 319 miles and Fairbanks was all the bottom line on all other mileage signs from there. Just west of Fairbanks there was a sign for Anchorage with a distance of 357 miles. There's also along the Dalton Highway at its beginning where the distance to Deadhorse is 414 miles. And although I only went as far as the Arctic Circle it was still on the few mileage signs. And looking at Google Streetview, Fairbanks is listed as a southbound control city from Deadhorse at a distance of 494 miles. At the Arctic Circle Fairbanks was listed at 200 miles so I would guess it's pretty consistently signed.
Quote from: JayhawkCO on May 11, 2023, 05:41:52 PM
Quote from: Jim on May 11, 2023, 05:31:45 PM
Seeing activity back in this thread made me think of Fairbanks, Anchorage, and Whitehorse as possible candidates. My travels up there were 20+ years ago and I didn't get a ton of pictures of distance signs. There aren't that many distance signs anyway, but I bet those major destinations are on distance signs pretty consistently for hundreds of miles on that roads that serve them.
I think in that neck of the woods, Inuvik is probably the highest.
I correct myself. Fairbanks is signed consistently from Whitehorse and the first sign is 910 km. Inuvik's first sign on the Dempster is 735 km.
Quote from: JayhawkCO on May 11, 2023, 06:10:33 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on May 11, 2023, 05:41:52 PM
Quote from: Jim on May 11, 2023, 05:31:45 PM
Seeing activity back in this thread made me think of Fairbanks, Anchorage, and Whitehorse as possible candidates. My travels up there were 20+ years ago and I didn't get a ton of pictures of distance signs. There aren't that many distance signs anyway, but I bet those major destinations are on distance signs pretty consistently for hundreds of miles on that roads that serve them.
I think in that neck of the woods, Inuvik is probably the highest.
I correct myself. Fairbanks is signed consistently from Whitehorse and the first sign is 910 km. Inuvik's first sign on the Dempster is 735 km.
And at least in 2001, there was this south/east of Whitehorse:
(https://www.teresco.org/pics/signs/20010613/84km-close.jpg)