I know of two examples:
1. US 59 north from Houston is labeled "Cleveland", referring to Cleveland, TX. It's also the best way to Cleveland, OH.
2. US 64 west from I-95 is labeled "Nashville", referring to Nashville, NC. It's also the best way to Nashville, TN.
Any other examples?
Not sure if this is what you have in mind, but BGSs in West Virginia pointing the way to Charleston (as the state capital) from the west (such as this one in Huntington (https://goo.gl/maps/5x7TW5GiZqheTYvU7)) or the north (but not the northeast beyond the junction of I-79 and US-19) are also accurately pointing the best way to Charleston, South Carolina. This doesn't apply to signs located to the south, such as in Beckley, because from there Charlie West is in the opposite direction from Charlie South, and it doesn't apply to signs located too far to the northeast because if you're going south, it's more direct to exit the Interstate to cut the corner via the New River Gorge Bridge.
Wilmington, in NJ, leads you into Delaware, where you can continue to go south on 95 to pick up I-40 to get to Wilmington, NC.
There's Washington PA/DC when getting on I-70 east from exit 1 in PA:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0995542,-80.5056375,3a,48.7y,197.87h,83.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_iDImTbQbe1n0szgyM6T3w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1?hl=en
(Used this exact location since all the other signs in both WV & PA specifically list "Washington PA")
I suppose this sign on US-17 near New Bern, North Carolina (https://goo.gl/maps/3W2oUWuiSi2dz2c16), accurately points the way to both Jacksonville, NC, and Jacksonville, FL, though I'm not sure whether following US-17 south here is necessarily the "best" route to Florida from there. Google Maps suggests it is not, though I suspect if I wanted to make that trip I'd probably head down to either Wilmington or Myrtle Beach before cutting west to I-95.
This sign in Lake Village, Arkansas nearly works. Taking US 82 east not only leads you to Greenville, Mississippi; it's also the fastest way to get to Greenville, South Carolina.
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.3296628,-91.2934932,3a,26.2y,91.94h,84.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXBRtGyePxshrAs67rPdGjw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Heading east on SR 46 takes you into Columbus IN, beyond which you can continue east to Columbus OH via Greensburg & Cincinnati:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1988092,-85.9578151,3a,41.3y,27.19h,91.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swqIQjfhwQljG67fw4cdLOw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en
Let me get this straight: You want examples for which...
(1) the destination town name naturally makes one think of a much farther-away destination, and
(2) that farther-away destination is also reached by taking the same highway.
?
There's enough Springfield's around that we could find several cases, I'm sure.
2 for just Springfield, IL:
-- Coming down I-55 from Chicago, signs could apply to both Springfield IL and MO (and would have kept on the same route when it was US-66)
-- Coming eb on I-74, it would apply to both IL and OH
EDIT: I guess both of those are somewhat backwards - in IL, the near location is more "famous" than the away location
Quote from: jmacswimmer on May 06, 2020, 11:36:18 AM
Heading east on SR 46 takes you into Columbus IN, beyond which you can continue east to Columbus OH via Greensburg & Cincinnati:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1988092,-85.9578151,3a,41.3y,27.19h,91.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swqIQjfhwQljG67fw4cdLOw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en
(1) You have to change highways several times to get to Columbus, OH by heading east on IN 46.
(2) Nobody would go that way to get to Columbus, OH.
Quote from: kphoger on May 06, 2020, 12:33:55 PM
Let me get this straight: You want examples for which...
(1) the destination town name naturally makes one think of a much farther-away destination, and
(2) that farther-away destination is also reached by taking the same highway.
?
Yes.
Here's a better one.
SB I-95 at US-64 to Nashville (NC) would also be the route to Nashville TN.
Quote from: GaryV on May 06, 2020, 12:34:27 PM
Springfield, IL:
-- Coming down I-55 from Chicago, signs could apply to both Springfield IL and MO (and would have kept on the same route when it was US-66)
the near location is more "famous" than the away location
Despite your assertion that the nearer one is the one that would more readily come to mind, I still find it interesting. However, I think the same condition would apply at the western end: people traveling east wouldn't naturally think of Springfield, IL.
Quote from: cabiness42 on May 06, 2020, 12:42:30 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on May 06, 2020, 11:36:18 AM
Heading east on SR 46 takes you into Columbus IN, beyond which you can continue east to Columbus OH via Greensburg & Cincinnati:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1988092,-85.9578151,3a,41.3y,27.19h,91.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swqIQjfhwQljG67fw4cdLOw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en
(1) You have to change highways several times to get to Columbus, OH by heading east on IN 46.
(2) Nobody would go that way to get to Columbus, OH.
Out of curiosity, which way would people go then? Google maps shows the SR 46/SR 3/I-74/I-275/I-71 route as the shortest/quickest route. I-65/I-465/I-70 adds a little time & distance, but does have the advantage of being all-freeway.
Quote from: jmacswimmer on May 06, 2020, 01:08:22 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on May 06, 2020, 12:42:30 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on May 06, 2020, 11:36:18 AM
Heading east on SR 46 takes you into Columbus IN, beyond which you can continue east to Columbus OH via Greensburg & Cincinnati:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1988092,-85.9578151,3a,41.3y,27.19h,91.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swqIQjfhwQljG67fw4cdLOw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en
(1) You have to change highways several times to get to Columbus, OH by heading east on IN 46.
(2) Nobody would go that way to get to Columbus, OH.
Out of curiosity, which way would people go then? Google maps shows the SR 46/SR 3/I-74/I-275/I-71 route as the shortest/quickest route. I-65/I-465/I-70 adds a little time & distance, but does have the advantage of being all-freeway.
If you're already in Columbus, IN, that may be the fastest way to get to Columbus, OH, but if you're on that stretch of I-65 heading towards Columbus, IN coming from any sort of distance, you would have exited before you got to IN 46 if you were going to Columbus, OH.
Quote from: GaryV on May 06, 2020, 12:43:47 PM
Here's a better one.
SB I-95 at US-64 to Nashville (NC) would also be the route to Nashville TN.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Quote from: 1 on May 06, 2020, 08:23:45 AM
I know of two examples:
1. US 59 north from Houston is labeled "Cleveland", referring to Cleveland, TX. It's also the best way to Cleveland, OH.
1. [sic] US 64 west from I-95 is labeled "Nashville", referring to Nashville, NC. It's also the best way to Nashville, TN.
Any other examples?
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 06, 2020, 01:21:03 PM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Well, it's certainly not
worse then the OP, right?
Quote from: kphoger on May 06, 2020, 01:37:40 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 06, 2020, 01:21:03 PM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Well, it's certainly not worse then the OP, right?
Heh, maybe I should have cross-posted it to the "Department of Redundancy Department" thread.
BTW, the last time we passed the "Nashville" sign in question in North Carolina, my wife thought it meant the one in Tennessee until I pointed out how far away that is.
Virginia used to have a really good example with US 211 and Washington VA and Washington DC. Pretty sure signs with both of them on it still exist but US 211 no longer makes it to DC.
On I-75 NB near Findlay, OH, there used to be a pull-through sign reading "Toledo, Ottawa" (at least I can't seem to find it). This is because SR-15 multiplexes briefly at that point until it heads west to Ottawa, OH. But if you stay on I-75 to Detroit, cross over or under the river, then pick up Canada Route 401 to 416, you can make it to the Canadian capital.
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 06, 2020, 10:31:09 AM
I suppose this sign on US-17 near New Bern, North Carolina (https://goo.gl/maps/3W2oUWuiSi2dz2c16), accurately points the way to both Jacksonville, NC, and Jacksonville, FL, though I'm not sure whether following US-17 south here is necessarily the "best" route to Florida from there. Google Maps suggests it is not, though I suspect if I wanted to make that trip I'd probably head down to either Wilmington or Myrtle Beach before cutting west to I-95.
From that point, continuing west along US-70 to I-95 would be the best routing for that trip.
Similarly, while not the -most- direct route, Washington (NC) is a control city for NB leaving New Bern, one could pass through there on one of the routes bound to Washington, D.C.
This example immediately came to mind–possibly the best example of this phenomenon: On the US 222 freeway between Lancaster and Reading, there's a guide sign for the interchange providing access to both the PA Turnpike (I-76) and local roads to the small borough of Denver, PA.
But coincidentally, if you get on the Pennsylvania Turnpike, continue straight I-80 through the Ohio and Indiana toll roads, and then keep following I-80 across Illinois, Iowa, and Nebraska, you'll eventually get to the other I-76, which terminates another Denver.
(image borrowed from AARoads gallery)
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Quote from: CoreySamson on May 06, 2020, 10:51:43 AM
This sign in Lake Village, Arkansas nearly works. Taking US 82 east not only leads you to Greenville, Mississippi; it's also the fastest way to get to Greenville, South Carolina.
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.3296628,-91.2934932,3a,26.2y,91.94h,84.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXBRtGyePxshrAs67rPdGjw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
I realized that sign also listed Tallulah for MS instead of LA.
iPhone
While this exit at US-264 (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5672992,-77.06856,3a,49y,231.14h,84.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sekILyguI-tmoAwj4KHDGrg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1) is for Greenville, NC, it's also the fastest route to Greenville, SC from this point.
Additionally, a routing from Washington to Greenville, VA, Greenville, GA, Greenville, MS, Greenville, OH, or Greenville, TX all pass through Greenville, NC.
Quote from: GaryV on May 06, 2020, 12:34:27 PM
There's enough Springfield's around that we could find several cases, I'm sure.
2 for just Springfield, IL:
-- Coming down I-55 from Chicago, signs could apply to both Springfield IL and MO (and would have kept on the same route when it was US-66)
-- Coming eb on I-74, it would apply to both IL and OH
EDIT: I guess both of those are somewhat backwards - in IL, the near location is more "famous" than the away location
Quote from: kphoger on May 06, 2020, 12:51:26 PM
Quote from: GaryV on May 06, 2020, 12:34:27 PM
Springfield, IL:
-- Coming down I-55 from Chicago, signs could apply to both Springfield IL and MO (and would have kept on the same route when it was US-66)
the near location is more "famous" than the away location
Despite your assertion that the nearer one is the one that would more readily come to mind, I still find it interesting. However, I think the same condition would apply at the western end: people traveling east wouldn't naturally think of Springfield, IL.
Something tells me that in this day & age the Springfield that most folks would think of is the town where the
Simpsons reside (several observers opine that it's Springfield, OR just because it's the nearest one to where creator Matt Groening grew up --
d'oh!).
Missouri has a Paris, Mexico, Cuba, Houston, Cairo (different from IL), Amsterdam, Sweden, and even a butchered redneck spelling of the capital of Afghanistan (Cabool), so the signs reflect a lot of different places.
Quote from: GaryV on May 06, 2020, 12:43:47 PM
Here's a better one.
SB I-95 at US-64 to Nashville (NC) would also be the route to Nashville TN.
US 64 doesn't go to Nashville, Tenn.
Quote from: hbelkins on May 07, 2020, 11:31:35 AM
Quote from: GaryV on May 06, 2020, 12:43:47 PM
Here's a better one.
SB I-95 at US-64 to Nashville (NC) would also be the route to Nashville TN.
US 64 doesn't go to Nashville, Tenn.
Not directly. But from that area of I-95, you would first take US-64 in your path to Nashville TN.
Given that it's one of the OP's examples, I think that's what the OP was thinking.
Quote from: STLmapboy on May 07, 2020, 09:52:29 AM
Missouri has a Paris, Mexico, Cuba, Houston, Cairo (different from IL), Amsterdam, Sweden, and even a butchered redneck spelling of the capital of Afghanistan (Cabool), so the signs reflect a lot of different places.
But none of those signs are on highways that lead to those far-away destinations. So they don't qualify.
And Cabool is simply an older way of spelling Kabul.
Quote from: kphoger on May 06, 2020, 12:51:26 PM
Quote from: GaryV on May 06, 2020, 12:34:27 PM
Springfield, IL:
-- Coming down I-55 from Chicago, signs could apply to both Springfield IL and MO (and would have kept on the same route when it was US-66)
the near location is more "famous" than the away location
Despite your assertion that the nearer one is the one that would more readily come to mind, I still find it interesting. However, I think the same condition would apply at the western end: people traveling east wouldn't naturally think of Springfield, IL.
Try living in St Louis. I spent most of my career there. We got a lot of visitors from both the Illinois and Missouri cities. Both groups would automatically assume you knew which one they came from because theirs was the only Springfield in their minds.
Quote from: skluth on May 07, 2020, 03:08:23 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 06, 2020, 12:51:26 PM
Springfield
Try living in St Louis. I spent most of my career there. We got a lot of visitors from both the Illinois and Missouri cities. Both groups would automatically assume you knew which one they came from because theirs was the only Springfield in their minds.
Oh, yeah! Even though I lived not too far away from Saint Louis for a while (southern Illinois), that never occurred to me until you pointed it out just now.
Quote from: GaryV on May 07, 2020, 11:32:59 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 07, 2020, 11:31:35 AM
Quote from: GaryV on May 06, 2020, 12:43:47 PM
Here's a better one.
SB I-95 at US-64 to Nashville (NC) would also be the route to Nashville TN.
US 64 doesn't go to Nashville, Tenn.
Not directly. But from that area of I-95, you would first take US-64 in your path to Nashville TN.
Given that it's one of the OP's examples, I think that's what the OP was thinking.
I think this is exactly right. You would indeed take US-64 west to Raleigh to connect to I-40 to connect to pretty much anywhere in Tennessee from that portion of I-95. It's far more direct than continuing down I-95 to make a direct connection to I-40–the latter option adds significant distance from the I-95/US-64 interchange to the eastern I-40/I-440 interchange (it's about 48.5 miles from the start of the C/D road on I-95 if you use US-64, whereas it's about 85 miles if you stay on I-95 to I-40).
In my first example in Reply #1, while I-64 doesn't go to South Carolina at all (much less Charleston, South Carolina), and I-77 serves South Carolina but doesn't make it all the way down to Charleston, the I-64 to I-77 combo is clearly the logical route you would take to get to Charlie South from Huntington, West Virginia, even though it isn't the complete route.
Quote from: bing101 on May 12, 2020, 04:39:13 PM
I-40 east with the control city of Santa Rosa. Yes it's accurate but for New Mexico and not for Santa Rosa, CA.
You would not take I-40 east to get to Santa Rosa, CA. This thread is for those where the far-away destination
is accurate.
US-20 in Newport, OR has a control city for Toledo, 7 miles away. But you could take US-20 all the way to Toledo, OH (roughly 2500 miles away sticking to US-20).
Would this sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.7103123,-92.7002761,3a,55y,119.32h,91.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPZvqf9CjkbU1OLScSkEyDQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1) qualify?
It could be referring to Rochester, NY, as well as Rochester, MN.
However, two small problems:
(1) I-90 does not pass directly through Rochester, NY.
(2) Rochester, NY, is not the "obvious" destination. I don't think it's significantly more well-known than Rochester, MN.
Quote from: webny99 on May 12, 2020, 09:12:05 PM
Would this sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.7103123,-92.7002761,3a,55y,119.32h,91.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPZvqf9CjkbU1OLScSkEyDQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1) qualify?
It could be referring to Rochester, NY, as well as Rochester, MN.
However, two small problems:
(1) I-90 does not pass directly through Rochester, NY.
(2) Rochester, NY, is not the "obvious" destination. I don't think it's significantly more well-known than Rochester, MN.
I count it. As someone with no connection to either MN or NY, I am definitely more familiar/aware with the NY one and it's the first one to come to mind when I hear "Rochester". And while I-90 doesn't directly pass through it, it definitely serves it, and passes directly through its suburbs. Good enough.
Quote from: doorknob60 on May 13, 2020, 03:16:42 PM
As someone with no connection to either MN or NY, I am definitely more familiar/aware with the NY one and it's the first one to come to mind when I hear "Rochester".
OK, good, that's kinda what I wanted to hear! :D
I know Rochester, MN, is more well known at least within Minnesota and the Upper Midwest, but I really had no priors about which is more well known in parts of the country that are far away from both.
Having traveled to and from the Twin Cities quite a bit and never having been to New York, I know the Minnesota one better. I'm really only aware of the New York one because of you, webny99.
This in no way implies I am typical. But I might be. At least in this respect.
Is it Denver, PA or Denver, CO?
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2190288,-76.0828414,3a,39.6y,273.78h,88.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siAZmXesyv_b3Tm0ikhpocw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2190288,-76.0828414,3a,39.6y,273.78h,88.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siAZmXesyv_b3Tm0ikhpocw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
This exit will get you to both (eventually).
Quote from: kphoger on May 13, 2020, 04:01:47 PM
Having traveled to and from the Twin Cities quite a bit and never having been to New York, I know the Minnesota one better. I'm really only aware of the New York one because of you, webny99.
Well, why else would I be here so regularly except to get my hometown some free publicity? :D
Quote from: kphoger on May 13, 2020, 04:01:47 PM
This in no way implies I am typical. But I might be. At least in this respect.
Speaking very generally, I would have expected the Minnesota one to be better known in the entire extended Midwest, possibly excluding Ohio. West of the Rockies, it's probably a bit more ambiguous since they're both so far away. Same for the Deep South.
I would also expect Rochester, MN, to be better-known among people in the health and medical industries, because it's the home of the world-famous Mayo Clinic, consistently ranked among the best hospitals/care facilities around.
Quote from: webny99 on May 13, 2020, 04:31:48 PM
Speaking very generally, I would have expected the Minnesota one to be better known in the entire extended Midwest, possibly excluding Ohio. West of the Rockies, it's probably a bit more ambiguous since they're both so far away. Same for the Deep South.
If you'd like a Deep South data point, I know that if I see just an unspecified "Rochester" I immediately think New York. Note that I've never been to either MN or NY (outside NYC).
Quote from: Eth on May 13, 2020, 04:42:31 PM
If you'd like a Deep South data point...
Sure, this is great! I'm getting more than I bargained for.
Being from Utah, when I hear "Rochester" unspecified I only think of the one in NY. I wouldn't actually know the one in MN existed if not for this forum.
I'll add on to the chorus that "Rochester" refers to New York, both here in California, and where I grew up (in Rhode Island). My wife's a doctor, and while she's very familiar with the Mayo Clinic, that doesn't mean she knows where it is beyond "somewhere in Minnesota". Whereas I encounter folks from U of R or RIT more than occasionally, both which claim "Rochester" in the name.
From a roadgeek perspective, Rochester MN isn't _really_ on I-90, nor does it have 3dis, where clearly Rochester NY was important enough to merit a few of them when the Interstates were being established.
Quote from: webny99 on May 13, 2020, 04:31:48 PM
Speaking very generally, I would have expected the Minnesota one to be better known in the entire extended Midwest, possibly excluding Ohio. West of the Rockies, it's probably a bit more ambiguous since they're both so far away. Same for the Deep South.
I would also expect Rochester, MN, to be better-known among people in the health and medical industries, because it's the home of the world-famous Mayo Clinic, consistently ranked among the best hospitals/care facilities around.
No question that Rochester, NY is the "principal" one, in the view of the general public. It's the older, larger and more culturally significant one (at least in its heyday when the basis for opinions like this were being formed). And even on the medical front, the University of Rochester [NY] Medical Center is no slouch in its field.
More generally for institutional association, if Rochester, MN->Mayo Clinic, then Rochester, NY->Kodak. That playing field being thus leveled, we're left for comparison with the overall greater influence of the NY city.
The difference between Mayo Clinic and Kodak is that the clinic is the destination of people from all over the country, and one they talk to their friends and family about.
However, when I've heard most people refer to Mayo Clinic's location, they usually just say "up in Minnesota".
Quote from: empirestate on May 15, 2020, 01:34:50 PM
Quote from: webny99 on May 13, 2020, 04:31:48 PM
Speaking very generally, I would have expected the Minnesota one to be better known in the entire extended Midwest, possibly excluding Ohio. West of the Rockies, it's probably a bit more ambiguous since they're both so far away. Same for the Deep South.
I would also expect Rochester, MN, to be better-known among people in the health and medical industries, because it's the home of the world-famous Mayo Clinic, consistently ranked among the best hospitals/care facilities around.
No question that Rochester, NY is the "principal" one, in the view of the general public. It's the older, larger and more culturally significant one (at least in its heyday when the basis for opinions like this were being formed). And even on the medical front, the University of Rochester [NY] Medical Center is no slouch in its field.
More generally for institutional association, if Rochester, MN->Mayo Clinic, then Rochester, NY->Kodak. That playing field being thus leveled, we're left for comparison with the overall greater influence of the NY city.
My grandfather went to Univ. of Rochester (NY) Medical School, so oddly I tend to think of that for medicine over Rochester MN. Also never been to MN so the double dose of bias directs my brain in that way.
Quote from: Eth on May 13, 2020, 04:42:31 PM
Quote from: webny99 on May 13, 2020, 04:31:48 PM
Speaking very generally, I would have expected the Minnesota one to be better known in the entire extended Midwest, possibly excluding Ohio. West of the Rockies, it's probably a bit more ambiguous since they're both so far away. Same for the Deep South.
If you'd like a Deep South data point, I know that if I see just an unspecified "Rochester" I immediately think New York. Note that I've never been to either MN or NY (outside NYC).
Being from Ohio, an unqualified reference to Rochester will bring NY to my mind before MN - unless there's other context like "Mayo Clinic"
Quote from: kphoger on May 15, 2020, 01:45:08 PM
The difference between Mayo Clinic and Kodak is that the clinic is the destination of people from all over the country, and one they talk to their friends and family about.
That's the difference today, but at one time, Kodak would have better fit that category. While it no longer holds that prominence, its effect on the city's reputation persists. Once-powerful industrial cities, while they may today be in decline, remain household names, even when larger or faster-growing cities elsewhere are not yet.
Quote from: empirestate on May 15, 2020, 02:39:09 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 15, 2020, 01:45:08 PM
The difference between Mayo Clinic and Kodak is that the clinic is the destination of people from all over the country, and one they talk to their friends and family about.
That's the difference today, but at one time, Kodak would have better fit that category. While it no longer holds that prominence, its effect on the city's reputation persists.
Absolutely. We'll often take first-time visitors on a drive through Kodak Park. It's still a fascinating area, albeit largely deserted these days. Kodak Center (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1974252,-77.6330233,3a,75y,96.97h,98.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sK6jA7xhIUlM2lW629p5VSA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1) is still a great events venue, too.
No one's going to mention Vancouver and I-5 from Portland, especially with the former US 99 association?
If Kentucky signed destinations in downtown Lexington, the intersection of US 60 and US 68 would show Paris and Versailles.
Quote from: hbelkins on May 17, 2020, 05:15:53 PM
If Kentucky signed destinations in downtown Lexington, the intersection of US 60 and US 68 would show Paris and Versailles.
Which route goes to France?
Signs for Portland in Salem, OR also lead to the fastest route to Portland, ME (at least according to Google).
Quote from: jaehak on May 21, 2020, 09:58:46 AM
Signs for Portland in Salem, OR also lead to the fastest route to Portland, ME (at least according to Google).
What highway goes from Salem (OR) to Portland (ME)?
Quote from: kphoger on May 21, 2020, 11:53:35 AM
Quote from: jaehak on May 21, 2020, 09:58:46 AM
Signs for Portland in Salem, OR also lead to the fastest route to Portland, ME (at least according to Google).
What highway goes from Salem (OR) to Portland (ME)?
He's saying that signs intended for Portland, OR are also the fastest way to get to Portland, ME. However, nobody at all would think it's for the Portland that's on the other side of the country.
Quote from: 1 on May 21, 2020, 12:42:16 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 21, 2020, 11:53:35 AM
Quote from: jaehak on May 21, 2020, 09:58:46 AM
Signs for Portland in Salem, OR also lead to the fastest route to Portland, ME (at least according to Google).
What highway goes from Salem (OR) to Portland (ME)?
He's saying that signs intended for Portland, OR are also the fastest way to get to Portland, ME. However, nobody at all would think it's for the Portland that's on the other side of the country.
"The fastest way" doesn't fit this thread. The topic includes the word "accurately", and the OP has already confirmed this means the sign must be on the same highway as the far-away destination.
Quote from: 1 on May 06, 2020, 08:23:45 AM
Any other examples?
Quote from: 1 on May 06, 2020, 12:43:32 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 06, 2020, 12:33:55 PM
Let me get this straight: You want examples for which...
(1) the destination town name naturally makes one think of a much farther-away destination, and
(2) that farther-away destination is also reached by taking the same highway.
?
Yes.
Quote from: kphoger on May 21, 2020, 12:57:47 PM
Quote from: 1 on May 21, 2020, 12:42:16 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 21, 2020, 11:53:35 AM
Quote from: jaehak on May 21, 2020, 09:58:46 AM
Signs for Portland in Salem, OR also lead to the fastest route to Portland, ME (at least according to Google).
What highway goes from Salem (OR) to Portland (ME)?
He's saying that signs intended for Portland, OR are also the fastest way to get to Portland, ME. However, nobody at all would think it's for the Portland that's on the other side of the country.
"The fastest way" doesn't fit this thread. The topic includes the word "accurately", and the OP has already confirmed this means the sign must be on the same highway as the far-away destination.
Quote from: 1 on May 06, 2020, 08:23:45 AM
Any other examples?
Quote from: 1 on May 06, 2020, 12:43:32 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 06, 2020, 12:33:55 PM
Let me get this straight: You want examples for which...
(1) the destination town name naturally makes one think of a much farther-away destination, and
(2) that farther-away destination is also reached by taking the same highway.
?
Yes.
I must have misinterpreted your post before, seeing it as "same highway initially". The fastest way to get there counts. (US 59 doesn't go to Cleveland, OH, and I listed it as one of my two examples.)
There's still no way to get to France from Kentucky, though.
Quote from: kphoger on May 21, 2020, 12:57:47 PM
Quote from: 1 on May 21, 2020, 12:42:16 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 21, 2020, 11:53:35 AM
Quote from: jaehak on May 21, 2020, 09:58:46 AM
Signs for Portland in Salem, OR also lead to the fastest route to Portland, ME (at least according to Google).
What highway goes from Salem (OR) to Portland (ME)?
He's saying that signs intended for Portland, OR are also the fastest way to get to Portland, ME. However, nobody at all would think it's for the Portland that's on the other side of the country.
"The fastest way" doesn't fit this thread. The topic includes the word "accurately", and the OP has already confirmed this means the sign must be on the same highway as the far-away destination.
Quote from: 1 on May 06, 2020, 08:23:45 AM
Any other examples?
Quote from: 1 on May 06, 2020, 12:43:32 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 06, 2020, 12:33:55 PM
Let me get this straight: You want examples for which...
(1) the destination town name naturally makes one think of a much farther-away destination, and
(2) that farther-away destination is also reached by taking the same highway.
?
Yes.
Neither of the OP's examples are based on using only 1 highway. The requirement is that, from the point of the sign, the best route to the closer and farther destinations both are in the same direction on the same initial road.
Quote from: kphoger on May 21, 2020, 12:57:47 PM
"The fastest way" doesn't fit this thread. The topic includes the word "accurately", and the OP has already confirmed this means the sign must be on the same highway as the far-away destination.
He is the OP, and just said the exact opposite.
The examples in the OP don't follow the same highway. US-64 doesn't go Nashville, TN and US-59 does not go to Cleveland, OH.
Quote from: 1 on May 06, 2020, 08:23:45 AM
I know of two examples:
1. US 59 north from Houston is labeled "Cleveland", referring to Cleveland, TX. It's also the best way to Cleveland, OH.
2. US 64 west from I-95 is labeled "Nashville", referring to Nashville, NC. It's also the best way to Nashville, TN.
Any other examples?
I haven't seen it recently, but I swear that there is or was a "Mecca / Medina / Baghdad" distance sign in the California desert. All three cities do exist in California. I have trouble finding the town of Medina because the California State Assembly Member named Jose Medina dominates all searches of "Medina California".
Quote from: michravera on May 21, 2020, 01:40:36 PMI have trouble finding the town of Medina because the California State Assembly Member named Jose Medina dominates all searches of "Medina California".
Wikipedia doesn't think it exists.
Well, at least I can take comfort in knowing I wasn't the only one confused.
Quote from: cabiness42 on May 06, 2020, 12:42:30 PM
(1) You have to change highways several times to get to Columbus, OH by heading east on IN 46.
Quote from: hbelkins on May 07, 2020, 11:31:35 AM
US 64 doesn't go to Nashville, Tenn.
Or maybe nobody else was until that earlier post of mine.
Quote from: 1 on May 12, 2020, 04:41:22 PM
Quote from: bing101 on May 12, 2020, 04:39:13 PM
I-40 east with the control city of Santa Rosa. Yes it's accurate but for New Mexico and not for Santa Rosa, CA.
You would not take I-40 east to get to Santa Rosa, CA. This thread is for those where the far-away destination is accurate.
No, but Santa Rosa also exists as a secondary control city for
westbound I-40 as well.
example (https://goo.gl/maps/1LZubEVvGJEzS66NA)
example (https://goo.gl/maps/cEfc64uLoJDp4U2x8)
example (https://goo.gl/maps/bWAc488oZLoXeqQLA)
example (https://goo.gl/maps/gXJs6KyPBX6rY4Uh6)
example (https://goo.gl/maps/D8PtCxrP5RQsaDVWA)
Quote from: 1 on May 21, 2020, 01:41:26 PM
Quote from: michravera on May 21, 2020, 01:40:36 PMI have trouble finding the town of Medina because the California State Assembly Member named Jose Medina dominates all searches of "Medina California".
Wikipedia doesn't think it exists.
It's also possible that I misremembered and the sign that I remember contains only Mecca and Baghdad.