So apparently I-80 is going to be rebuilt in the whole area. Opinions?
http://www.i80project.com/ (http://www.i80project.com/)
Good it was needed at least 30 years ago last time I was on it
Quote from: Hwy 61 Revisited on May 13, 2020, 09:00:21 PM
So apparently I-80 is going to be rebuilt in the whole area. Opinions?
http://www.i80project.com/ (http://www.i80project.com/)
They're doing it in stages, but I have no idea when or if it'll ever be 3 lanes through the town. It needs to connect sections from the I-80/380 merge through to Exit 4 in NJ... good luck convincing the EPA on that one.
But there was a Finding of No Significant impact - a FONSI! Ayyy!
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Looks like they are going to address the entrance ramps particularly the weave between Main Street and US 209 that has only 1000 feet of separation.
I take it they won't touch the last exit heading east towards New Jersey? I haven't been on that part of I-80 since maybe the late 2000s. I remember how narrow some of the road was even then.
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on May 16, 2020, 04:34:19 PM
I take it they won't touch the last exit heading east towards New Jersey? I haven't been on that part of I-80 since maybe the late 2000s. I remember how narrow some of the road was even then.
Well it's gotta be 2 lanes crossing the Delaware for the near term so that'll limit things.
Quote from: Alps on May 16, 2020, 05:21:28 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on May 16, 2020, 04:34:19 PM
I take it they won't touch the last exit heading east towards New Jersey? I haven't been on that part of I-80 since maybe the late 2000s. I remember how narrow some of the road was even then.
Well it's gotta be 2 lanes crossing the Delaware for the near term so that'll limit things.
There are long-term plans to widen it between 380 and the Columbia-Portland Interchange. I wonder how the hell they're going to rebuild that clusterfuck anyway.
Quote from: Hwy 61 Revisited on May 16, 2020, 06:34:09 PM
Quote from: Alps on May 16, 2020, 05:21:28 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on May 16, 2020, 04:34:19 PM
I take it they won't touch the last exit heading east towards New Jersey? I haven't been on that part of I-80 since maybe the late 2000s. I remember how narrow some of the road was even then.
Well it's gotta be 2 lanes crossing the Delaware for the near term so that'll limit things.
There are long-term plans to widen it between 380 and the Columbia-Portland Interchange. I wonder how the hell they're going to rebuild that clusterfuck anyway.
I have no clue how they're ever going to rebuild in NJ. PA can get it up to the bridge, you might in 20 years have a snowball's chance of getting a 6-lane bridge put in, but that snowball's gonna melt before you can widen in NJ. It's gonna be easier to pull an I-78 and do a new alignment south of Stroudsburg and tying in at I-380.
Quote from: Alps on May 17, 2020, 01:17:43 AM
Quote from: Hwy 61 Revisited on May 16, 2020, 06:34:09 PM
Quote from: Alps on May 16, 2020, 05:21:28 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on May 16, 2020, 04:34:19 PM
I take it they won't touch the last exit heading east towards New Jersey? I haven't been on that part of I-80 since maybe the late 2000s. I remember how narrow some of the road was even then.
Well it's gotta be 2 lanes crossing the Delaware for the near term so that'll limit things.
There are long-term plans to widen it between 380 and the Columbia-Portland Interchange. I wonder how the hell they're going to rebuild that clusterfuck anyway.
I have no clue how they're ever going to rebuild in NJ. PA can get it up to the bridge, you might in 20 years have a snowball's chance of getting a 6-lane bridge put in, but that snowball's gonna melt before you can widen in NJ. It's gonna be easier to pull an I-78 and do a new alignment south of Stroudsburg and tying in at I-380.
I-480 to Bangor, anyone?
Quote from: Alps on May 17, 2020, 01:17:43 AM
Quote from: Hwy 61 Revisited on May 16, 2020, 06:34:09 PM
Quote from: Alps on May 16, 2020, 05:21:28 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on May 16, 2020, 04:34:19 PM
I take it they won't touch the last exit heading east towards New Jersey? I haven't been on that part of I-80 since maybe the late 2000s. I remember how narrow some of the road was even then.
Well it's gotta be 2 lanes crossing the Delaware for the near term so that'll limit things.
There are long-term plans to widen it between 380 and the Columbia-Portland Interchange. I wonder how the hell they're going to rebuild that clusterfuck anyway.
I have no clue how they're ever going to rebuild in NJ. PA can get it up to the bridge, you might in 20 years have a snowball's chance of getting a 6-lane bridge put in, but that snowball's gonna melt before you can widen in NJ. It's gonna be easier to pull an I-78 and do a new alignment south of Stroudsburg and tying in at I-380.
I did some fantasy musing scribbling on USGS topo map photocopies of the area a while back (late 1990s/early 2000s) and yes, upgrading I-80 to six lanes would be a major undertaking whatever way one goes there. A six-lane ticket turnpike bypass (straight west from US 46/NJ 94 to the PA 33 corridor and back to present-day I-80)? Start thinking about European-style tunneling and viaduct bridging.
A wild thought that I just had, and it is probably a complete non-starter, but how possible would it be to rebuild I-80 through the 'Gap' as three lanes westbound on the New Jersey side and three lanes eastbound on the Pennsylvania side?
Mike
Quote from: mgk920 on May 18, 2020, 10:54:06 AM
Quote from: Alps on May 17, 2020, 01:17:43 AM
Quote from: Hwy 61 Revisited on May 16, 2020, 06:34:09 PM
Quote from: Alps on May 16, 2020, 05:21:28 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on May 16, 2020, 04:34:19 PM
I take it they won't touch the last exit heading east towards New Jersey? I haven't been on that part of I-80 since maybe the late 2000s. I remember how narrow some of the road was even then.
Well it's gotta be 2 lanes crossing the Delaware for the near term so that'll limit things.
There are long-term plans to widen it between 380 and the Columbia-Portland Interchange. I wonder how the hell they're going to rebuild that clusterfuck anyway.
I have no clue how they're ever going to rebuild in NJ. PA can get it up to the bridge, you might in 20 years have a snowball's chance of getting a 6-lane bridge put in, but that snowball's gonna melt before you can widen in NJ. It's gonna be easier to pull an I-78 and do a new alignment south of Stroudsburg and tying in at I-380.
I did some fantasy musing scribbling on USGS topo map photocopies of the area a while back (late 1990s/early 2000s) and yes, upgrading I-80 to six lanes would be a major undertaking whatever way one goes there. A six-lane ticket turnpike bypass (straight west from US 46/NJ 94 to the PA 33 corridor and back to present-day I-80)? Start thinking about European-style tunneling and viaduct bridging.
A wild thought that I just had, and it is probably a complete non-starter, but how possible would it be to rebuild I-80 through the 'Gap' as three lanes westbound on the New Jersey side and three lanes eastbound on the Pennsylvania side?
Mike
I think the PA side is protected. I don't see anything happening there with PA 611.