Mentioned in another thread, very few people travel from I-57 north to I-24 or I-24 to I-57 south. Also, no ramp, but I can't imagine many people going I-40 west to I-15 north and vice versa. Any other examples?
US-264 West to I-95 North (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7383339,-77.9986019,8885m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-74 East to I-95 South (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.5946696,-79.1150286,8505m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-77 South to I-20 West (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0690868,-80.924349,2775m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) (no ramp for other direction)
I-20 West to I-10 East (https://www.google.com/maps/@31.0930475,-104.0116686,13256m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-24 West to I-69 North (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0683851,-88.0684279,6543m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-57 South to I-55 North (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0683851,-88.0684279,6543m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
TX-130 South to I-10 East (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.6114085,-97.8659817,4623m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
Quote from: sprjus4 on May 14, 2020, 11:49:25 PM
US-264 West to I-95 North (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7383339,-77.9986019,8885m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-74 East to I-95 South (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.5946696,-79.1150286,8505m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-77 South to I-20 West (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0690868,-80.924349,2775m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) (no ramp for other direction)
I-20 West to I-10 East (https://www.google.com/maps/@31.0930475,-104.0116686,13256m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-24 West to I-69 North (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0683851,-88.0684279,6543m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-57 South to I-55 North (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0683851,-88.0684279,6543m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
TX-130 South to I-10 East (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.6114085,-97.8659817,4623m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I feel like I-57 south to I-55 north could be used by people in extreme southern Illinois going to St. Louis.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 14, 2020, 11:56:20 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on May 14, 2020, 11:49:25 PM
US-264 West to I-95 North (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7383339,-77.9986019,8885m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-74 East to I-95 South (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.5946696,-79.1150286,8505m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-77 South to I-20 West (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0690868,-80.924349,2775m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) (no ramp for other direction)
I-20 West to I-10 East (https://www.google.com/maps/@31.0930475,-104.0116686,13256m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-24 West to I-69 North (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0683851,-88.0684279,6543m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-57 South to I-55 North (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0683851,-88.0684279,6543m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
TX-130 South to I-10 East (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.6114085,-97.8659817,4623m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I feel like I-57 south to I-55 north could be used by people in extreme southern Illinois going to St. Louis.
It would be about 10 minutes slower vs. IL-3 and IL-146 into Cape Girardeau to I-55.
I'm not saying any of those connections aren't used, but they have generally low traffic volumes compared to the other connections based on the way the highways approach each other. For instance, all the other connections at the I-55 / I-57 / US-60 interchange would have higher volumes than that particular movement. I didn't confirm any of these with actual AADT counts, but this is just largely assumptions based on the highway locations and population centers.
Also maybe I-70 west to I-15 north, as most traffic would have departed on either US 6 or US 50.
I-17 North to I-40 West (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1563856,-111.6735125,8447m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-75 South to I-10 West (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.2670563,-82.7552196,2811m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-59 North to I-20 West (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.3362881,-88.7742858,5191m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-10 West to I-59 North (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3028726,-89.7346582,7080m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
Can't imagine a whole lot of traffic using the I-15 north to I-84 east connection (or vice versa) via SR 26 near Ogden, unless your origin/destination is in a very specific area of northwest Davis or southwest Weber County south of 4000 South and north of SR 193. US 89 along the Layton east bench is a much better alternative.
Back when I was living down there (pre-late 2012) the ramps from NB I-215 to SB I-15 and vice-versa at Devore didn't get much use, especially after CA 210 was completed out past 215 in 2007. However, the last time I was on I-15 a bit over a year ago there were plenty of new huge warehouse/distribution facilities lining I-15 just west of the Glen Helen event site, which could mean that those ramps might get utilized quite a bit more than previously, particularly with trucks coming or going from I-10 east of the San Bernardino/Redlands area (that routing would be the most efficient way for that to happen).
In Michigan, I have to think that I-75 south to I-275 north, and I-275 south to I-75 north, get very little use.
Minnesota typically does a good job of omitting redundant connecting ramps (see. SB 35W-EB 94, EB 494-NB 169, WB 94-EB 610, no return access between 35W and 35E unlike in Texas). One exception is southbound US 169 to westbound US 10 in Elk River, where 169 has three streets with local access, two of which directly connect to US 10 and making that ramp useless.
Quote from: wanderer2575 on May 15, 2020, 01:37:51 AM
In Michigan, I have to think that I-75 south to I-275 north, and I-275 south to I-75 north, get very little use.
Another possibility is I-696 wb to M-5 eb, and vice versa.
Nor, at the same interchange, I-275 nb to M-5 eb, and vice versa.
You do see vehicles using the loop ramps for M-5 to/from the I-696 to I-275 ramp, but not often.
The one in Iowa I doubt gets used very much is the exit from eastbound I-680 I-880 to westbound I-80 and vice versa. I suspect the use of those ramps is 100% directly related to the use of the IA 191 exit.
While I don't doubt the need for it, the ramp from I-35 SB to I-90 EB and the corresponding I-90 WB to I-35 NB must not get used very much at all. I suspect the only people who use them are going to or from Clarks Grove, Hayward, or the KOA at the old US 16 exit east of Hayward.
Isn't there a "private use only" ramp somewhere?
This situation no longer prevails due to reconstruction, but for many years, I-495's Inner Loop in Virginia had two exits to westbound I-66, one from the left lane (the original exit dating back to when the roads opened) and a right-side loop-around ramp added some years later in part to help reduce the problem of traffic entering from US-50 and having to cut across four lanes of traffic to the left-side exit in a very short space. Very few people used the right-side exit, even people entering from US-50 (they still cut across all four lanes), and I'd wager the traffic counts would probably show it was severely underused compared to the overall volume of traffic changing direction at that interchange.
That situation no longer exists because nowadays, the left-side ramp is an HO/T exit and everyone in the "free" lanes has to use the right-side ramp, though it will be reconfigured into a flyover instead of a loop during the next few years as part of the I-66 outside-the-Beltway HO/T project.
I-78 WB to I-81 NB and vice versa - similar to the Iowa example, I would guess that the main purpose of these ramps is to allow local access to/from the PA 72 exit just to the north.
The ramps are shared with other more frequently used movements, but these particular movements are pretty rare:
I-80/90 WB -> I-94 EB
I-80/94 EB -> I-90 WB
I-90 EB -> I-80/94 WB
I-94 WB -> I-80/90 EB
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 14, 2020, 11:56:20 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on May 14, 2020, 11:49:25 PM
US-264 West to I-95 North (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7383339,-77.9986019,8885m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-74 East to I-95 South (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.5946696,-79.1150286,8505m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-77 South to I-20 West (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0690868,-80.924349,2775m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) (no ramp for other direction)
I-20 West to I-10 East (https://www.google.com/maps/@31.0930475,-104.0116686,13256m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-24 West to I-69 North (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0683851,-88.0684279,6543m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-57 South to I-55 North (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0683851,-88.0684279,6543m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
TX-130 South to I-10 East (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.6114085,-97.8659817,4623m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I feel like I-57 south to I-55 north could be used by people in extreme southern Illinois going to St. Louis.
Been there, done that. I live in STL and have cousins who live near the 55/24 split (most conservative people you'll ever meet in your life, but that's for another thread). Although usually 57 to 64W in Mt Vernon is the way back, we have gone 57 to 55N before (and through Cape Girardeau).
Quote from: 1 on May 15, 2020, 08:33:30 AM
Isn't there a "private use only" ramp somewhere?
There's this rail yard access from I-70 WB in Kansas City:
https://goo.gl/maps/N9VJfM1XyA7YhqNcA
There are also direct ramps into a variety of federal facilities around DC (e.g. NASA Goddard, the NSA), but none of these that I can think of are on interstates.
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 15, 2020, 08:40:29 AM
This situation no longer prevails due to reconstruction, but for many years, I-495's Inner Loop in Virginia had two exits to westbound I-66, one from the left lane (the original exit dating back to when the roads opened) and a right-side loop-around ramp added some years later in part to help reduce the problem of traffic entering from US-50 and having to cut across four lanes of traffic to the left-side exit in a very short space. Very few people used the right-side exit, even people entering from US-50 (they still cut across all four lanes), and I'd wager the traffic counts would probably show it was severely underused compared to the overall volume of traffic changing direction at that interchange.
That situation no longer exists because nowadays, the left-side ramp is an HO/T exit and everyone in the "free" lanes has to use the right-side ramp, though it will be reconfigured into a flyover instead of a loop during the next few years as part of the I-66 outside-the-Beltway HO/T project.
This basic situation still exists with the I-64/264 interchange in Norfolk: https://goo.gl/maps/r5n2xcSxZcu64vwc6
From EB I-64 to EB I-264 there's a loop ramp, a flyover, and a HO/T flyover.
From EB I-264 to WB I-64 there's both a loop ramp and a flyover.
From WB I-264 to EB I-64 there's both a loop ramp and a flyover.
Most of these loop ramps still exist as they connect to/from the C/D roads, where the flyovers connect directly to/from the main lanes.
Quote from: sprjus4 on May 15, 2020, 12:05:16 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 14, 2020, 11:56:20 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on May 14, 2020, 11:49:25 PM
US-264 West to I-95 North (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7383339,-77.9986019,8885m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-74 East to I-95 South (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.5946696,-79.1150286,8505m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-77 South to I-20 West (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0690868,-80.924349,2775m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) (no ramp for other direction)
I-20 West to I-10 East (https://www.google.com/maps/@31.0930475,-104.0116686,13256m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-24 West to I-69 North (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0683851,-88.0684279,6543m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-57 South to I-55 North (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0683851,-88.0684279,6543m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
TX-130 South to I-10 East (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.6114085,-97.8659817,4623m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I feel like I-57 south to I-55 north could be used by people in extreme southern Illinois going to St. Louis.
It would be about 10 minutes slower vs. IL-3 and IL-146 into Cape Girardeau to I-55.
I'm not saying any of those connections aren't used, but they have generally low traffic volumes compared to the other connections based on the way the highways approach each other. For instance, all the other connections at the I-55 / I-57 / US-60 interchange would have higher volumes than that particular movement. I didn't confirm any of these with actual AADT counts, but this is just largely assumptions based on the highway locations and population centers.
You should have.
3 of the other 7 ramps have lower AADT than the one in question.
I-57 SB → I-55 SB = AADT 4384
I-55 NB → I-57 NB = AADT 4146
I-55 SB → U-60 WB = AADT 2942
U-60 EB → I-55 NB = AADT 2820
I-57 SB → I-55 NB = AADT 1199U-60 EB → I-55 SB = AADT 859
I-55 NB → U-60 WB = AADT 826
I-55 SB → I-57 NB = AADT 626
Some low ones in Michigan (under 1,000 AADT):
I-94 WB -> I-196 NB: 331 AADT (EB I-94 to NB I-196 is over 14,000 AADT)
I-196 SB -> I-94 EB: 363 AADT (SB I-196 to WB I-94 is over 16,000 AADT)
I-69 SB -> I-94 EB: 819 AADT
I-75 SB -> I-675 NB: 856 AADT
I-75 NB -> I-675 SB: 884 AADT
I-94 WB -> I-69 NB: 895 AADT
I-675 NB -> I-75 SB: 922 AADT
Quote from: GaryV on May 15, 2020, 08:29:45 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on May 15, 2020, 01:37:51 AM
In Michigan, I have to think that I-75 south to I-275 north, and I-275 south to I-75 north, get very little use.
Another possibility is I-696 wb to M-5 eb, and vice versa.
Nor, at the same interchange, I-275 nb to M-5 eb, and vice versa.
You do see vehicles using the loop ramps for M-5 to/from the I-696 to I-275 ramp, but not often.
The SB I-275 -> NB I-75 and SB I-75 -> NB I-275 each have slightly over 2,000 AADT. Also, every single freeway to freeway ramp at the I-96/I-275/I-696/M-5 interchange has at least 5,000 AADT!
Oh, I also can't see I-90 east to I-84 west being used a lot.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 15, 2020, 03:27:16 PM
Oh, I also can't see I-90 east to I-84 west being used a lot.
I can. What about those who live on MA/CT 131?
Quote from: 1 on May 15, 2020, 03:34:10 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 15, 2020, 03:27:16 PM
Oh, I also can't see I-90 east to I-84 west being used a lot.
I can. What about those who live on MA/CT 131?
I'm not saying the nobody uses it, but it's probably the least used interstate ramp in Massachusetts.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 15, 2020, 03:35:38 PM
Quote from: 1 on May 15, 2020, 03:34:10 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 15, 2020, 03:27:16 PM
Oh, I also can't see I-90 east to I-84 west being used a lot.
I can. What about those who live on MA/CT 131?
I'm not saying the nobody uses it, but it's probably the least used interstate ramp in Massachusetts.
Exit 37A on MA 2 westbound?
Quote from: 1 on May 15, 2020, 03:34:10 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 15, 2020, 03:27:16 PM
Oh, I also can't see I-90 east to I-84 west being used a lot.
I can. What about those who live on MA/CT 131?
Or those connecting to US 20 to go to Treehouse Brewery :bigass:
Quote from: 1 on May 15, 2020, 03:37:48 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 15, 2020, 03:35:38 PM
Quote from: 1 on May 15, 2020, 03:34:10 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 15, 2020, 03:27:16 PM
Oh, I also can't see I-90 east to I-84 west being used a lot.
I can. What about those who live on MA/CT 131?
I'm not saying the nobody uses it, but it's probably the least used interstate ramp in Massachusetts.
Exit 37A on MA 2 westbound?
Oops, forgot about that one. Although I wonder what percent of people using that I-84 exit ramp exit at US 20.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 15, 2020, 03:27:16 PM
Oh, I also can't see I-90 east to I-84 west being used a lot.
AADT = 2082
US-20 WB → I-84 WB actually has a lower AADT.
Quote from: kphoger on May 15, 2020, 04:19:24 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 15, 2020, 03:27:16 PM
Oh, I also can't see I-90 east to I-84 west being used a lot.
AADT = 2082
US-20 WB → I-84 WB actually has a lower AADT.
Do you have the AADT for the exit on MA 2 that I mentioned?
Quote from: 1 on May 15, 2020, 03:37:48 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 15, 2020, 03:35:38 PM
Quote from: 1 on May 15, 2020, 03:34:10 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 15, 2020, 03:27:16 PM
Oh, I also can't see I-90 east to I-84 west being used a lot.
I can. What about those who live on MA/CT 131?
I'm not saying the nobody uses it, but it's probably the least used interstate ramp in Massachusetts.
Exit 37A on MA 2 westbound?
Not an Interstate.
But, because you asked again...
AADT = 96
The northbound-to-westbound ramp is even lower, at 46.
The main ones that comes to mind in New York are I-86 EB - I-390 NB and I-390 SB - I-86 WB (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3892549,-77.3865021,16z). Surface roads are faster for any move between the I-390 corridor and the west aside from origins/destinations right at I-390 Exit 1. NY 36 is the preferred route between I-390 and Hornell, while NY 21 is faster to Cohocton or Wayland.
Quote from: GaryV on May 15, 2020, 08:29:45 AM
Another possibility is I-696 wb to M-5 eb, and vice versa.
Nor, at the same interchange, I-275 nb to M-5 eb, and vice versa.
You do see vehicles using the loop ramps for M-5 to/from the I-696 to I-275 ramp, but not often.
There actually is more traffic on those ramps than you might think because of vehicles going between all directions of I-96/I-275/I-696 and the M-5/Grand River Avenue/Ten Mile Road interchange; that short stretch of M-5 is a well-used spur to connect all those freeways with the surface road grid.
Quote from: cabiness42 on May 15, 2020, 08:52:43 AM
The ramps are shared with other more frequently used movements, but these particular movements are pretty rare:
I-80/90 WB -> I-94 EB
I-80/94 EB -> I-90 WB
I-90 EB -> I-80/94 WB
I-94 WB -> I-80/90 EB
Bolded emphasis mine.
I think that ramp movement gets a little more usage than expected only because it’s the required movement for Toll Road traffic in either direction to access Indiana 51 south. Otherwise, there really isn’t a reason (outside of construction or major accidents shuttering the I-65 ramps nearby) to make that movement - a point rather subtly made in the exit signage for eastbound travelers (no mention of I-80 west or Des Moines on any of the signs).
Speaking of which, the connection from I-80/94 west to I-65 north doesn’t see much action (even less so with the likelihood of Gary Railcats Baseball being cancelled) outside of usage as a detour or a quick connect to 15th Avenue. The same can be said for the ramp from I-65 south to I-80/94 east.
Quote from: cabiness42 on May 15, 2020, 08:52:43 AM
The ramps are shared with other more frequently used movements, but these particular movements are pretty rare:
I-80/90 WB -> I-94 EB
I-80/94 EB -> I-90 WB
I-90 EB -> I-80/94 WB
I-94 WB -> I-80/90 EB
Since the I-57/294 interchange opened I am sure the I-294SB to I-80WB ramp is hardly used as is the I-80EB to I-294NB ramp.
Quote from: cl94 on May 17, 2020, 02:28:50 PM
The main ones that comes to mind in New York are I-86 EB - I-390 NB and I-390 SB - I-86 WB (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3892549,-77.3865021,16z). Surface roads are faster for any move between the I-390 corridor and the west aside from origins/destinations right at I-390 Exit 1. NY 36 is the preferred route between I-390 and Hornell, while NY 21 is faster to Cohocton or Wayland.
Speaking of I-86, what about I-86 WB - I-90 EB and I-90 WB - I-86 EB (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.152966,-79.8866386,1714m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en)? I can't imagine even local traffic using these ramps, considering the next interchange on both routes is PA 89.
I-75 NB to I-675 SB on the northern end. I use that ramp often enough though to make the loop back to Saginaw but not very many other people do. If you wanted to go to I-675 most people going north would use exit 150 and most people going south would use exit 155.
I-75 NB to I-475 SB also on the northern end. I-475 doesn't have a ramp to connect SB I-475 to NB I-75 and I-75 doesn't have a ramp to connect SB I-75 to NB I-475 on the southern end. But the northern end doesn't get used much.
I don't think NB I-475 to SB I-75 on the northern end gets used much but it's a quicker way to get from the Clio Road exit on I-475 to the Pierson Road exit on I-75.
Quote from: Flint1979 on May 18, 2020, 08:46:41 AM
I-75 NB to I-675 SB on the northern end. I use that ramp often enough though to make the loop back to Saginaw but not very many other people do. If you wanted to go to I-675 most people going north would use exit 150 and most people going south would use exit 155.
I-75 NB to I-475 SB also on the northern end. I-475 doesn't have a ramp to connect SB I-475 to NB I-75 and I-75 doesn't have a ramp to connect SB I-75 to NB I-475 on the southern end. But the northern end doesn't get used much.
I don't think NB I-475 to SB I-75 on the northern end gets used much but it's a quicker way to get from the Clio Road exit on I-475 to the Pierson Road exit on I-75.
From my post on page 1:
I-75 SB -> I-675 NB: 856 AADT
I-75 NB -> I-675 SB: 884 AADT
I-475 NB -> I-75 SB: 3065 AADT
I-75 NB -> I-475 SB: 2811 AADT
Those movements are the main way to get from NB I-75 to Mt. Morris and Beecher (and vice versa to SB I-75)
Out west, I'll nominate I-86 WB to I-84 EB. Not many towns from that junction to SLC on I-84. It would almost always be quicker to take I-15 south to any areas of population.
Chris
Quote from: ftballfan on May 18, 2020, 09:44:06 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on May 18, 2020, 08:46:41 AM
I-75 NB to I-675 SB on the northern end. I use that ramp often enough though to make the loop back to Saginaw but not very many other people do. If you wanted to go to I-675 most people going north would use exit 150 and most people going south would use exit 155.
I-75 NB to I-475 SB also on the northern end. I-475 doesn't have a ramp to connect SB I-475 to NB I-75 and I-75 doesn't have a ramp to connect SB I-75 to NB I-475 on the southern end. But the northern end doesn't get used much.
I don't think NB I-475 to SB I-75 on the northern end gets used much but it's a quicker way to get from the Clio Road exit on I-475 to the Pierson Road exit on I-75.
From my post on page 1:
I-75 SB -> I-675 NB: 856 AADT
I-75 NB -> I-675 SB: 884 AADT
I-475 NB -> I-75 SB: 3065 AADT
I-75 NB -> I-475 SB: 2811 AADT
Those movements are the main way to get from NB I-75 to Mt. Morris and Beecher (and vice versa to SB I-75)
I was on the SB I-75 to NB I-675 ramp about an hour ago lol. When you are coming from M-81 to downtown Saginaw it's quicker to go that way rather than continuing on M-81 to SB M-13.
Those aren't real high numbers for I-475 either but that's a rather dead part of Flint. SB I-475 is also useful for going from SB I-75 to EB I-69.
Quote from: jmacswimmer on May 18, 2020, 08:23:35 AM
Quote from: cl94 on May 17, 2020, 02:28:50 PM
The main ones that comes to mind in New York are I-86 EB - I-390 NB and I-390 SB - I-86 WB (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3892549,-77.3865021,16z). Surface roads are faster for any move between the I-390 corridor and the west aside from origins/destinations right at I-390 Exit 1. NY 36 is the preferred route between I-390 and Hornell, while NY 21 is faster to Cohocton or Wayland.
Speaking of I-86, what about I-86 WB - I-90 EB and I-90 WB - I-86 EB (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.152966,-79.8866386,1714m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en)? I can't imagine even local traffic using these ramps, considering the next interchange on both routes is PA 89.
That might be the least-used Interstate-Interstate movement in PA. There is no reasonable path where that is the fastest route. Maybe if a trucker is doing everything possible to maximize freeway use?
Quote from: cl94 on May 17, 2020, 02:28:50 PM
The main ones that comes to mind in New York are I-86 EB - I-390 NB and I-390 SB - I-86 WB (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3892549,-77.3865021,16z). Surface roads are faster for any move between the I-390 corridor and the west aside from origins/destinations right at I-390 Exit 1.
Very good example! The NYS Traffic Data Viewer shows:
I-390 SB to I-86 WB: 172
I-86 EB to I-390 NB: 111
I think that's the clear winner so far for an interstate-interstate connection.
My bet is that even I-86 to I-90 in PA is going to be higher than that just because it's a more populated area and a more heavily-used travel corridor.
Quote from: webny99 on May 18, 2020, 03:06:48 PM
Quote from: cl94 on May 17, 2020, 02:28:50 PM
The main ones that comes to mind in New York are I-86 EB - I-390 NB and I-390 SB - I-86 WB (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3892549,-77.3865021,16z). Surface roads are faster for any move between the I-390 corridor and the west aside from origins/destinations right at I-390 Exit 1.
Very good example! The NYS Traffic Data Viewer shows:
I-390 SB to I-86 WB: 172
I-86 EB to I-390 NB: 111
I think that's the clear winner so far for an interstate-interstate connection.
My bet is that even I-86 to I-90 in PA is going to be higher than that just because it's a more populated area and a more heavily-used travel corridor.
The last one has no purpose. It saves 3 minutes to take PA 89. Maybe it gets marginal traffic to North east.
The best (and possibly only) example I can think of from MD is I-68 EB - I-70 WB and I-70 EB - I-68 WB (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7144335,-78.186643,889m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en). The latest data from MDOT SHA (https://data.imap.maryland.gov/datasets/maryland-annual-average-daily-traffic-annual-average-daily-traffic-sha-statewide-aadt-lines?geometry=-78.220%2C39.708%2C-78.139%2C39.720&selectedAttribute=AADT) shows AADT of 222 on 68 EB to 70 WB, and 182 on 70 EB to 68 WB.
Quote from: jmacswimmer on May 18, 2020, 04:42:43 PM
The best (and possibly only) example I can think of from MD is I-68 EB - I-70 WB and I-70 EB - I-68 WB (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7144335,-78.186643,889m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en). The latest data from MDOT SHA (https://data.imap.maryland.gov/datasets/maryland-annual-average-daily-traffic-annual-average-daily-traffic-sha-statewide-aadt-lines?geometry=-78.220%2C39.708%2C-78.139%2C39.720&selectedAttribute=AADT) shows AADT of 222 on 68 EB to 70 WB, and 182 on 70 EB to 68 WB.
Only use I can think of is if you live in one of the towns along free I-70 south of Breezwood.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 18, 2020, 04:49:25 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on May 18, 2020, 04:42:43 PM
The best (and possibly only) example I can think of from MD is I-68 EB - I-70 WB and I-70 EB - I-68 WB (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7144335,-78.186643,889m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en). The latest data from MDOT SHA (https://data.imap.maryland.gov/datasets/maryland-annual-average-daily-traffic-annual-average-daily-traffic-sha-statewide-aadt-lines?geometry=-78.220%2C39.708%2C-78.139%2C39.720&selectedAttribute=AADT) shows AADT of 222 on 68 EB to 70 WB, and 182 on 70 EB to 68 WB.
Only use I can think of is if you live in one of the towns along free I-70 south of Breezwood.
Or if you live along 68 and need to go buy fireworks :awesomeface: (courtesy of differing state laws, there seems to be a huge fireworks store at the first exit off every major route crossing into PA from MD)
Quote from: jmacswimmer on May 18, 2020, 04:59:51 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 18, 2020, 04:49:25 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on May 18, 2020, 04:42:43 PM
The best (and possibly only) example I can think of from MD is I-68 EB - I-70 WB and I-70 EB - I-68 WB (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7144335,-78.186643,889m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en). The latest data from MDOT SHA (https://data.imap.maryland.gov/datasets/maryland-annual-average-daily-traffic-annual-average-daily-traffic-sha-statewide-aadt-lines?geometry=-78.220%2C39.708%2C-78.139%2C39.720&selectedAttribute=AADT) shows AADT of 222 on 68 EB to 70 WB, and 182 on 70 EB to 68 WB.
Only use I can think of is if you live in one of the towns along free I-70 south of Breezwood.
Or if you live along 68 and need to go buy fireworks :awesomeface: (courtesy of differing state laws, there seems to be a huge fireworks store at the first exit off every major route crossing into PA from MD)
And New York, New Jersey, Ohio...
Quote from: jmacswimmer on May 18, 2020, 04:59:51 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 18, 2020, 04:49:25 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on May 18, 2020, 04:42:43 PM
The best (and possibly only) example I can think of from MD is I-68 EB - I-70 WB and I-70 EB - I-68 WB (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7144335,-78.186643,889m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en). The latest data from MDOT SHA (https://data.imap.maryland.gov/datasets/maryland-annual-average-daily-traffic-annual-average-daily-traffic-sha-statewide-aadt-lines?geometry=-78.220%2C39.708%2C-78.139%2C39.720&selectedAttribute=AADT) shows AADT of 222 on 68 EB to 70 WB, and 182 on 70 EB to 68 WB.
Only use I can think of is if you live in one of the towns along free I-70 south of Breezwood.
Or if you live along 68 and need to go buy fireworks :awesomeface: (courtesy of differing state laws, there seems to be a huge fireworks store at the first exit off every major route crossing into PA from MD)
Not sure what stores are in this part of PA, but it's probably quicker for most in western Maryland just to go north into Pennsylvania.
Quote from: ftballfan on May 18, 2020, 09:44:06 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on May 18, 2020, 08:46:41 AM
I-75 NB to I-675 SB on the northern end. I use that ramp often enough though to make the loop back to Saginaw but not very many other people do. If you wanted to go to I-675 most people going north would use exit 150 and most people going south would use exit 155.
I-75 NB to I-475 SB also on the northern end. I-475 doesn't have a ramp to connect SB I-475 to NB I-75 and I-75 doesn't have a ramp to connect SB I-75 to NB I-475 on the southern end. But the northern end doesn't get used much.
I don't think NB I-475 to SB I-75 on the northern end gets used much but it's a quicker way to get from the Clio Road exit on I-475 to the Pierson Road exit on I-75.
From my post on page 1:
I-75 SB -> I-675 NB: 856 AADT
I-75 NB -> I-675 SB: 884 AADT
I-475 NB -> I-75 SB: 3065 AADT
I-75 NB -> I-475 SB: 2811 AADT
Those movements are the main way to get from NB I-75 to Mt. Morris and Beecher (and vice versa to SB I-75)
What's the AADT on the ramps at exit 2 and 2A on NB I-675? The first one is 5th and 6th Avenues and it leads to a pretty dead part of town for the most part and use to be the downtown exit before the Warren Avenue exit was built about 10 years ago. Exits 3 and 6 will be much higher and exit 1 probably a little busier but not much.
can't find traffic data on individual ramps in South Carolina but a candidate for a low total would be the I-26 EB/I-95 NB movements and reverse.
With 4-laned US 301 connecting the two north of the 26/95 interchange there is almost no need to make these movements.
Quote from: sprjus4 on May 15, 2020, 12:05:16 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 14, 2020, 11:56:20 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on May 14, 2020, 11:49:25 PM
US-264 West to I-95 North (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7383339,-77.9986019,8885m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-74 East to I-95 South (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.5946696,-79.1150286,8505m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-77 South to I-20 West (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0690868,-80.924349,2775m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) (no ramp for other direction)
I-20 West to I-10 East (https://www.google.com/maps/@31.0930475,-104.0116686,13256m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-24 West to I-69 North (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0683851,-88.0684279,6543m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I-57 South to I-55 North (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0683851,-88.0684279,6543m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
TX-130 South to I-10 East (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.6114085,-97.8659817,4623m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e1) and vice versa
I feel like I-57 south to I-55 north could be used by people in extreme southern Illinois going to St. Louis.
It would be about 10 minutes slower vs. IL-3 and IL-146 into Cape Girardeau to I-55.
I'm not saying any of those connections aren't used, but they have generally low traffic volumes compared to the other connections based on the way the highways approach each other. For instance, all the other connections at the I-55 / I-57 / US-60 interchange would have higher volumes than that particular movement. I didn't confirm any of these with actual AADT counts, but this is just largely assumptions based on the highway locations and population centers.
Going from immediately west of the US 60 intersection in Wickliffe to I-55 north of Exit 99, Google gives 1 hour 2 minutes (63.6 miles) via US 60, I-57, and I-55. Via IL 3 it gives 55 minutes, 46.9 miles. The interstate option might be better than dealing with slower drivers, farm equipment, and the possible revenue patrols on the Illinois side.
Quote from: Flint1979 on May 18, 2020, 06:55:18 PM
What's the AADT on the ramps at exit 2 and 2A on NB I-675? The first one is 5th and 6th Avenues and it leads to a pretty dead part of town for the most part and use to be the downtown exit before the Warren Avenue exit was built about 10 years ago. Exits 3 and 6 will be much higher and exit 1 probably a little busier but not much.
Exit #1 = AADT 272
Exit #2 = AADT 404
Exit #2A = AADT 722
Exit #3 = AADT 7508
Exit #6 = AADT 8833
Quote from: kphoger on May 19, 2020, 01:14:21 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on May 18, 2020, 06:55:18 PM
What's the AADT on the ramps at exit 2 and 2A on NB I-675? The first one is 5th and 6th Avenues and it leads to a pretty dead part of town for the most part and use to be the downtown exit before the Warren Avenue exit was built about 10 years ago. Exits 3 and 6 will be much higher and exit 1 probably a little busier but not much.
Exit #1 = AADT 272
Exit #2 = AADT 404
Exit #2A = AADT 722
Exit #3 = AADT 7508
Exit #6 = AADT 8833
It sure seems like exit 1 has more traffic than that. What about exit 153 off I-75?
Quote from: Flint1979 on May 19, 2020, 03:14:51 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 19, 2020, 01:14:21 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on May 18, 2020, 06:55:18 PM
What's the AADT on the ramps at exit 2 and 2A on NB I-675? The first one is 5th and 6th Avenues and it leads to a pretty dead part of town for the most part and use to be the downtown exit before the Warren Avenue exit was built about 10 years ago. Exits 3 and 6 will be much higher and exit 1 probably a little busier but not much.
Exit #1 = AADT 272
Exit #2 = AADT 404
Exit #2A = AADT 722
Exit #3 = AADT 7508
Exit #6 = AADT 8833
It sure seems like exit 1 has more traffic than that. What about exit 153 off I-75?
AADT for Exit #1 is quite a bit larger on southbound I-675 than on northbound: 2282.
But,
entering traffic from Lapeer/VetsMem onto southbound I-675 is really low: 79.
As for I-75 Exit #153...
NB = 1890
SB = 767
Quote from: kphoger on May 19, 2020, 04:04:41 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on May 19, 2020, 03:14:51 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 19, 2020, 01:14:21 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on May 18, 2020, 06:55:18 PM
What's the AADT on the ramps at exit 2 and 2A on NB I-675? The first one is 5th and 6th Avenues and it leads to a pretty dead part of town for the most part and use to be the downtown exit before the Warren Avenue exit was built about 10 years ago. Exits 3 and 6 will be much higher and exit 1 probably a little busier but not much.
Exit #1 = AADT 272
Exit #2 = AADT 404
Exit #2A = AADT 722
Exit #3 = AADT 7508
Exit #6 = AADT 8833
It sure seems like exit 1 has more traffic than that. What about exit 153 off I-75?
AADT for Exit #1 is quite a bit larger on southbound I-675 than on northbound: 2282.
But, entering traffic from Lapeer/VetsMem onto southbound I-675 is really low: 79.
As for I-75 Exit #153...
NB = 1890
SB = 767
The area around exit 1 is pretty much light industrial along Vets and residential off of the side streets. For SB 675 off Vets its not a movement I take very often myself I live about 7 miles from there and I'm in that area pretty much every day. It'd be a quicker route to get to the Holland and Outer Drive area via I-75's exit 149 though.
Another one I wouldn't think is very busy but it would make sense if it was is I-675 SB to I-75 NB. The reason it could be busier and I use this ramp for this purpose is to get to exit 151 which is M-81 going towards the thumb area.
The M-46 interchange is currently under construction for the next two years so more people might be trying to avoid that interchange using M-81 as well. I have noticed the Michigan State Police patrolling this construction zone too.
Quote from: Flint1979 on May 19, 2020, 04:49:35 PM
I-675 SB to I-75 NB
AADT = 1223
But the reverse is 856.
Quote from: kphoger on May 19, 2020, 04:54:46 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on May 19, 2020, 04:49:35 PM
I-675 SB to I-75 NB
AADT = 1223
But the reverse is 856.
There are some pretty low numbers on some of them. Exits 3 and 6 serve busier parts of the city/township as exit 3 leads to M-58 and larger populated areas and exit 6 is the mall area with everything that's usually around a mall area.
I wouldn't think EB Tittabawassee to NB I-675 would be too busy at exit 6.
In Arizona it has to be the ramp from I-10 W/B to I-17 S/B (very long and high flyover ramp that is completely redundant due to the freeway configuration of the area).
Quote from: sprjus4 on May 21, 2020, 09:47:12 PM
Quote from: ztonyg on May 21, 2020, 09:36:58 PM
In Arizona it has to be the ramp from I-10 W/B to I-17 S/B (very long and high flyover ramp that is completely redundant due to the freeway configuration of the area).
Major connection from I-10 from points east such as Albuquerque to I-17 South bound towards Phoenix.
Could theoretically be only 1 lane or a loop, but I wouldn’t imagine it’s an underused connection compared to a ramp such as I-10 East to I-17 South.
I could be wrong though, I don’t have the numbers.
There are faster ways to get from Albuquerque to Phoenix.
^
I misread the post, I was thinking I-40 and I-17, not I-10 and I-17. I-40 westbound to I-17 southbound has a flyover connection as well, though it's in Flagstaff, not Phoenix. I-10 runs through Phoenix.
But for the Phoenix to Albuquerque connection with I-40 and I-17, arterial routes may shave 5 or 10 minutes off for traffic bound to the central or east side, but the interstate is still the most efficient and likely preferred route for most.