I wanna get as many examples as possible of exit signs with nothing but the exit number. Like this sign on I-40 in New Mexico:
https://www.google.pl/maps/@34.9924315,-105.3144271,3a,69.7y,130.95h,64.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYMUAISW3XDyn5chZ-_5qrg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Though another example is this profoundly unhelpful and redundant Idaho I-15 sign (Shelley is signed on 1-mile leadup signs though). It's a real "department of redundancy department" case:
https://www.google.pl/maps/@43.4359484,-112.1247947,3a,73.6y,88.76h,78.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMOwT1dG0hjPE0jUvAKvMPw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Share more examples below! They're more common on rural Western freeways.
North Dakota does that for sparsely traveled interchanges.
Here's a bunch I have photographed on a cross-country trip in August 2018.
I-94 exit 342, ND (https://flic.kr/p/2a13mBU) | I-94 exit 310, ND (https://flic.kr/p/2a13kQJ)
I-94 exit 298, ND (https://flic.kr/p/LjmtpB) | I-94 exit 296, ND (https://flic.kr/p/2a13oPQ)
I-94 exit 272, ND (https://flic.kr/p/27jsAtC) | I-94 exit 248, ND (https://flic.kr/p/28GgvEB)
I-94 exit 245, ND (https://flic.kr/p/2a13xo3) | I-94 exit 233, ND (https://flic.kr/p/2a13x2w)
I-94 exit 195, ND (https://flic.kr/p/28GgBfz) | I-94 exit 120, ND (https://flic.kr/p/28YQ3G5)
I-94 exit 117, ND (https://flic.kr/p/28YQ3E1) | I-90 exit 172, SD (https://flic.kr/p/299FpRN)
I-90 Exit 38. (https://goo.gl/maps/kRqrM98gWoFA2ZN67) This takes you to a bypassed section of the old highway, which was still named Sunset Highway when the new freeway was being built, so having that name on the sign would have been confusing.
I-70 Exit 218 (https://www.google.pl/maps/@39.7021198,-105.8449282,3a,75y,288.91h,86.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scTzoEZGI-NYzLu-egFTfBQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) is one of my favorites in Colorado and is located just east of Loveland Pass and the Eisenhower and Johnson tunnels. It provides access to Herman Gulch which is a National Forest hiking trail up to Lake Herman near the continental divide.
This concept is fascinating to me. In Nevada, no matter how rural or desolate, every freeway exit has some kind of name on the sign. If the exit is not in a populated townsite, then the exit is either named for a (often former) nearby site or a nearby geological feature, or might be named for a distant place accessible from that exit.
Quote from: zzcarp on May 17, 2020, 11:51:31 AM
I-70 Exit 218 (https://www.google.pl/maps/@39.7021198,-105.8449282,3a,75y,288.91h,86.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scTzoEZGI-NYzLu-egFTfBQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) is one of my favorites in Colorado and is located just east of Loveland Pass and the Eisenhower and Johnson tunnels. It provides access to Herman Gulch which is a National Forest hiking trail up to Lake Herman near the continental divide.
As an example, if this were in Nevada, the exit would have been named "Herman Gulch".
Quote from: zzcarp on May 17, 2020, 11:51:31 AM
I-70 Exit 218 (https://www.google.pl/maps/@39.7021198,-105.8449282,3a,75y,288.91h,86.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scTzoEZGI-NYzLu-egFTfBQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) is one of my favorites in Colorado and is located just east of Loveland Pass and the Eisenhower and Johnson tunnels. It provides access to Herman Gulch which is a National Forest hiking trail up to Lake Herman near the continental divide.
There used to be another nearer to Denver on I-25. It was only northbound, but it was signed "Exit 191". Then (apparently as I wasn't living here at the time to know the history) CDOT demolished it and created Exit 192 - RidgeGate Parkway in 2009 according to Wikipedia.
Chris
Chris
Quote from: jayhawkco on May 17, 2020, 08:10:45 PM
Quote from: zzcarp on May 17, 2020, 11:51:31 AM
I-70 Exit 218 (https://www.google.pl/maps/@39.7021198,-105.8449282,3a,75y,288.91h,86.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scTzoEZGI-NYzLu-egFTfBQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) is one of my favorites in Colorado and is located just east of Loveland Pass and the Eisenhower and Johnson tunnels. It provides access to Herman Gulch which is a National Forest hiking trail up to Lake Herman near the continental divide.
There used to be another nearer to Denver on I-25. It was only northbound, but it was signed "Exit 191". Then (apparently as I wasn't living here at the time to know the history) CDOT demolished it and created Exit 192 - RidgeGate Parkway in 2009 according to Wikipedia.
Chris
There were actually two sets of RIRO exits in the stretch south of Ridgegate prior to 2009. There was an exit 191 both north and south at Surrey Drive (the southbound exit was essentially here (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5133786,-104.8695346,3a,75y,204.13h,70.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKDORaUlI5TUMkaCTS2G3VA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DKDORaUlI5TUMkaCTS2G3VA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D115.04096%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)). Basically, Surrey Drive had the RIRO from/to SB 25, went through the current one-lane underpass and turned north to where it connected to a RIRO at NB I-25.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49907313418_53139ab5e7_z.jpg)
The second set of RIRO exits was approximately here (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.491987,-104.8733392,3a,75y,162.95h,78.08t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s6VpWRnxCU7A-UIR86MVk4Q!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D6VpWRnxCU7A-UIR86MVk4Q%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D131.07942%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192). It was a pure RIRO on the southbound (west) side that dumped right onto the west frontage road. The northbound (east) side was a RIRO to an exit ramp. I believe they were marked "Exit 189", and I don't remember.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49907313368_45ede6c4a2_z.jpg)
Both of these sets of exits were removed when CDOT constructed the S. Havana Street frontage road on the east side from Ridgegate to Castle Pines Parkway and I-25 was widened to 4 lanes circa 2009.
Quote from: zzcarp on May 18, 2020, 01:24:10 AM
Quote from: jayhawkco on May 17, 2020, 08:10:45 PM
Quote from: zzcarp on May 17, 2020, 11:51:31 AM
I-70 Exit 218 (https://www.google.pl/maps/@39.7021198,-105.8449282,3a,75y,288.91h,86.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scTzoEZGI-NYzLu-egFTfBQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) is one of my favorites in Colorado and is located just east of Loveland Pass and the Eisenhower and Johnson tunnels. It provides access to Herman Gulch which is a National Forest hiking trail up to Lake Herman near the continental divide.
There used to be another nearer to Denver on I-25. It was only northbound, but it was signed "Exit 191". Then (apparently as I wasn't living here at the time to know the history) CDOT demolished it and created Exit 192 - RidgeGate Parkway in 2009 according to Wikipedia.
Chris
There were actually two sets of RIRO exits in the stretch south of Ridgegate prior to 2009. There was an exit 191 both north and south at Surrey Drive (the southbound exit was essentially here (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5133786,-104.8695346,3a,75y,204.13h,70.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKDORaUlI5TUMkaCTS2G3VA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DKDORaUlI5TUMkaCTS2G3VA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D115.04096%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)). Basically, Surrey Drive had the RIRO from/to SB 25, went through the current one-lane underpass and turned north to where it connected to a RIRO at NB I-25.
The second set of RIRO exits was approximately here (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.491987,-104.8733392,3a,75y,162.95h,78.08t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s6VpWRnxCU7A-UIR86MVk4Q!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D6VpWRnxCU7A-UIR86MVk4Q%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D131.07942%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192). It was a pure RIRO on the southbound (west) side that dumped right onto the west frontage road. The northbound (east) side was a RIRO to an exit ramp. I believe they were marked "Exit 189", and I don't remember.
Both of these sets of exits were removed when CDOT constructed the S. Havana Street frontage road on the east side from Ridgegate to Castle Pines Parkway and I-25 was widened to 4 lanes circa 2009.
Interesting.
You can see these on old Street View from 2007.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5132098,-104.8696353,3a,48.9y,216.24h,86.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sL_y6EFz05es2XWroXUvDaQ!2e0!7i3328!8i1664
This is an interesting one, the entire sign for Exit 59 on I-5 in Washington has been covered due to a wash out on the road that would normally appear on the sign (WA-506), so it temporarily displays just the exit number. There isn't even a distance given, as shown on this picture I took of the one mile advance sign northbound.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49990053388_9250f671a7_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jas6fd)
Here's a google streetview as well showing the sign at the exit: https://goo.gl/maps/uBJ8jvqbQKwvMhyJ7
Quote from: Big John on May 16, 2020, 07:22:11 PM
North Dakota does that for sparsely traveled interchanges.
Yup. Some examples from I-94 were posted upthread, but there are several on I-29 as well, like Exit 193 (https://www.google.com/maps/@48.6399153,-97.1818334,3a,52.8y,359.6h,88.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSQx_aOtmk0ub4BfBIWalOw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1), for example. It doesn't even get so much as a BGS!
Quote from: webny99 on June 10, 2020, 10:08:47 AM
Quote from: Big John on May 16, 2020, 07:22:11 PM
North Dakota does that for sparsely traveled interchanges.
Yup. Some examples from I-94 were posted upthread, but there are several on I-29 as well, like Exit 193 (https://www.google.com/maps/@48.6399153,-97.1818334,3a,52.8y,359.6h,88.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSQx_aOtmk0ub4BfBIWalOw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1), for example. It doesn't even get so much as a BGS!
I-94 in NDExit 90
Exit 113
Exit 117
Exit 120
Exit 195
Exit 233
Exit 245
Exit 248
Exit 272
Exit 296
Exit 298
Exit 310
Exit 342
I-29 in NDExit 157
Exit 164
Exit 172
Exit 180
Exit 193
Exit 200
Exit 212
Quote from: stevashe on June 10, 2020, 02:29:58 AM
This is an interesting one, the entire sign for Exit 59 on I-5 in Washington has been covered due to a wash out on the road that would normally appear on the sign (WA-506), so it temporarily displays just the exit number. There isn't even a distance given, as shown on this picture I took of the one mile advance sign northbound.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49990053388_9250f671a7_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jas6fd)
Here's a google streetview as well showing the sign at the exit: https://goo.gl/maps/uBJ8jvqbQKwvMhyJ7
Interesting that they would cover the entire sign legend for this situation. You'd think they'd slap an orange "exit closed" plaque on it instead...I think that's what Nevada DOT would do.
Quote from: stevashe on June 10, 2020, 02:29:58 AM
This is an interesting one, the entire sign for Exit 59 on I-5 in Washington has been covered due to a wash out on the road that would normally appear on the sign (WA-506), so it temporarily displays just the exit number. There isn't even a distance given, as shown on this picture I took of the one mile advance sign northbound.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49990053388_9250f671a7_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jas6fd)
Here's a google streetview as well showing the sign at the exit: https://goo.gl/maps/uBJ8jvqbQKwvMhyJ7
Vader's (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.417842,-122.9136481,14z) new slogan:
that's no exit.
Quote from: STLmapboy on May 16, 2020, 05:22:39 PM
Though another example is this profoundly unhelpful and redundant Idaho I-15 sign (Shelley is signed on 1-mile leadup signs though). It's a real "department of redundancy department" case:
https://www.google.pl/maps/@43.4359484,-112.1247947,3a,73.6y,88.76h,78.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMOwT1dG0hjPE0jUvAKvMPw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
That Exit 113 / Exit 113 sign was one of the first ones I saw when I started lurking on this forum years ago. Even back then, I found that sign so utterly hilarious at how useless and pointless it was. I mean, I recall reading the road actually had a name that they could have used on the sign. But no....
Quote from: roadfro on June 14, 2020, 11:40:46 AM
Interesting that they would cover the entire sign legend for this situation. You'd think they'd slap an orange "exit closed" plaque on it instead...I think that's what Nevada DOT would do.
Well, the exit isn't closed, it just doesn't currently go where the legend says it does. :P
Quote from: sprjus4 on May 18, 2020, 01:53:37 AM
Quote from: zzcarp on May 18, 2020, 01:24:10 AM
Quote from: jayhawkco on May 17, 2020, 08:10:45 PM
Quote from: zzcarp on May 17, 2020, 11:51:31 AM
I-70 Exit 218 (https://www.google.pl/maps/@39.7021198,-105.8449282,3a,75y,288.91h,86.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scTzoEZGI-NYzLu-egFTfBQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) is one of my favorites in Colorado and is located just east of Loveland Pass and the Eisenhower and Johnson tunnels. It provides access to Herman Gulch which is a National Forest hiking trail up to Lake Herman near the continental divide.
There used to be another nearer to Denver on I-25. It was only northbound, but it was signed "Exit 191". Then (apparently as I wasn't living here at the time to know the history) CDOT demolished it and created Exit 192 - RidgeGate Parkway in 2009 according to Wikipedia.
Chris
There were actually two sets of RIRO exits in the stretch south of Ridgegate prior to 2009. There was an exit 191 both north and south at Surrey Drive (the southbound exit was essentially here (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5133786,-104.8695346,3a,75y,204.13h,70.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKDORaUlI5TUMkaCTS2G3VA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DKDORaUlI5TUMkaCTS2G3VA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D115.04096%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)). Basically, Surrey Drive had the RIRO from/to SB 25, went through the current one-lane underpass and turned north to where it connected to a RIRO at NB I-25.
The second set of RIRO exits was approximately here (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.491987,-104.8733392,3a,75y,162.95h,78.08t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s6VpWRnxCU7A-UIR86MVk4Q!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D6VpWRnxCU7A-UIR86MVk4Q%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D131.07942%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192). It was a pure RIRO on the southbound (west) side that dumped right onto the west frontage road. The northbound (east) side was a RIRO to an exit ramp. I believe they were marked "Exit 189", and I don't remember.
Both of these sets of exits were removed when CDOT constructed the S. Havana Street frontage road on the east side from Ridgegate to Castle Pines Parkway and I-25 was widened to 4 lanes circa 2009.
Interesting.
You can see these on old Street View from 2007.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5132098,-104.8696353,3a,48.9y,216.24h,86.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sL_y6EFz05es2XWroXUvDaQ!2e0!7i3328!8i1664
These types of setups are common along interstates in Wyoming.
One of the infamous Cal-NExUS rollout signs on the 405 in Orange County has managed to survive the construction so far.
(https://i.imgur.com/Hqhuxwj.jpg)
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on July 03, 2020, 12:28:49 PM
One of the infamous Cal-NExUS rollout signs on the 405 in Orange County has managed to survive the construction so far.
(https://i.imgur.com/Hqhuxwj.jpg)
Were there really no exit numbers on any freeway before 2002?
Quote from: STLmapboy on July 03, 2020, 01:20:17 PM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on July 03, 2020, 12:28:49 PM
One of the infamous Cal-NExUS rollout signs on the 405 in Orange County has managed to survive the construction so far.
(https://i.imgur.com/Hqhuxwj.jpg)
Were there really no exit numbers on any freeway before 2002?
There was a pilot project in 1971 on some freeways near Central Los Angeles. The idea was probably ahead of its time and wasn't popular then. More information can be found here:
https://www.cahighways.org/num-exitnum.html
Here is one on I-80 in Utah: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7308835,-111.7597937,3a,75y,242.44h,103.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxb3_5xquY_XIEfjO15gMVg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7308835,-111.7597937,3a,75y,242.44h,103.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxb3_5xquY_XIEfjO15gMVg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
I am pretty sure that UDOT used to sign this one as a "Ranch Exit", but they seem to be getting away from this nomenclature lately.
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on July 08, 2020, 12:03:19 PM
Here is one on I-80 in Utah: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7308835,-111.7597937,3a,75y,242.44h,103.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxb3_5xquY_XIEfjO15gMVg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7308835,-111.7597937,3a,75y,242.44h,103.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxb3_5xquY_XIEfjO15gMVg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
I am pretty sure that UDOT used to sign this one as a "Ranch Exit", but they seem to be getting away from this nomenclature lately.
Montana labels these types of exits as "Ranch Access"
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Quote from: rarnold on July 08, 2020, 10:52:48 PM
Montana labels these types of exits as "Ranch Access"
Or
Local (https://goo.gl/maps/c87eR5TCc99zmPtQ9)
Access (https://goo.gl/maps/rcgn7XnTkEzyv9XT7).
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on July 08, 2020, 12:03:19 PM
Here is one on I-80 in Utah: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7308835,-111.7597937,3a,75y,242.44h,103.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxb3_5xquY_XIEfjO15gMVg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7308835,-111.7597937,3a,75y,242.44h,103.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxb3_5xquY_XIEfjO15gMVg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
I am pretty sure that UDOT used to sign this one as a "Ranch Exit", but they seem to be getting away from this nomenclature lately.
You may be thinking of the next exit up, exit 132 appears to be still signed as "Ranch Exit". https://goo.gl/maps/5JcSJ8BAP6fw6cCB9
Quote from: stevashe on July 11, 2020, 08:47:58 PM
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on July 08, 2020, 12:03:19 PM
Here is one on I-80 in Utah: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7308835,-111.7597937,3a,75y,242.44h,103.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxb3_5xquY_XIEfjO15gMVg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7308835,-111.7597937,3a,75y,242.44h,103.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxb3_5xquY_XIEfjO15gMVg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
I am pretty sure that UDOT used to sign this one as a "Ranch Exit", but they seem to be getting away from this nomenclature lately.
You may be thinking of the next exit up, exit 132 appears to be still signed as "Ranch Exit". https://goo.gl/maps/5JcSJ8BAP6fw6cCB9
131 was never signed as a Ranch Exit, as far as I know. In the eastbound direction, 131 used to be “Quarry Exit”, but is now just “Quarry”.
UDOT is indeed moving away from “Ranch Exit”, though - within the last few years, the other ranch exit on I-80 and all examples on I-15 and I-70 were renamed to something else. The only ones left are the aforementioned exit 132 on I-80 and exits 12, 32, and 106 on I-84.
I-90 in South Dakota has a number of Exits with just the exit number
Quote from: US 89 on July 12, 2020, 02:22:49 AM
Quote from: stevashe on July 11, 2020, 08:47:58 PM
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on July 08, 2020, 12:03:19 PM
Here is one on I-80 in Utah: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7308835,-111.7597937,3a,75y,242.44h,103.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxb3_5xquY_XIEfjO15gMVg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7308835,-111.7597937,3a,75y,242.44h,103.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxb3_5xquY_XIEfjO15gMVg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
I am pretty sure that UDOT used to sign this one as a "Ranch Exit", but they seem to be getting away from this nomenclature lately.
You may be thinking of the next exit up, exit 132 appears to be still signed as "Ranch Exit". https://goo.gl/maps/5JcSJ8BAP6fw6cCB9
131 was never signed as a Ranch Exit, as far as I know. In the eastbound direction, 131 used to be "Quarry Exit" , but is now just "Quarry" .
UDOT is indeed moving away from "Ranch Exit" , though - within the last few years, the other ranch exit on I-80 and all examples on I-15 and I-70 were renamed to something else. The only ones left are the aforementioned exit 132 on I-80 and exits 12, 32, and 106 on I-84.
You are right! I had a memory glitch there - it did indeed say "Quarry Exit" for many years. Yes, I have noticed the "Ranch Exit" signs being changed to either community names or road names (both of which are pretty creative when we're talking about the likes of I-70 in the San Rafael Swell.
Quote from: zzcarp on May 17, 2020, 11:51:31 AM
I-70 Exit 218 (https://www.google.pl/maps/@39.7021198,-105.8449282,3a,75y,288.91h,86.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scTzoEZGI-NYzLu-egFTfBQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) is one of my favorites in Colorado and is located just east of Loveland Pass and the Eisenhower and Johnson tunnels. It provides access to Herman Gulch which is a National Forest hiking trail up to Lake Herman near the continental divide.
there's also an exit 4-something (or is it 3-something) in eastern colorado on I-70.
I have to assume that most of these rural western exits are for private ranches/farms. This is going to be an issue with I-11 in Arizona, between Wickenburg and I-40 east of Kingman (and in Nevada north of Vegas?). There are about 3 dozen private ranch turnoffs on US 93 in that approximately 125 mile span that will still need access to the freeway. My guess is that they will remain at-grade intersections, similar to I-40 in Texas. Not only would it be expensive to upgrade these ranch turnoffs to ramps, but there isn't a lot of room to build them.
Quote from: KeithE4Phx on August 11, 2020, 12:30:25 AM
I have to assume that most of these rural western exits are for private ranches/farms. This is going to be an issue with I-11 in Arizona, between Wickenburg and I-40 east of Kingman (and in Nevada north of Vegas?). There are about 3 dozen private ranch turnoffs on US 93 in that approximately 125 mile span that will still need access to the freeway. My guess is that they will remain at-grade intersections, similar to I-40 in Texas. Not only would it be expensive to upgrade these ranch turnoffs to ramps, but there isn't a lot of room to build them.
Is it feasible to build a frontage road and have exits with access to the frontage road every 10-15 miles or so?
US-93 will likely be addressed by constructing two-way frontage roads along most of the length with occasional overpasses where needed and interchanges every 5 or 10 miles at intersecting roads where determined.
Since this is not Texas, no need for slip ramps and one-way two lane frontage roads.
On I-10 in southwestern New Mexico:
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.3096552,-108.6027939,3a,45.8y,320.31h,89.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1so-CtU7JTWNRCa7GOjgeoQw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.3096552,-108.6027939,3a,45.8y,320.31h,89.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1so-CtU7JTWNRCa7GOjgeoQw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Good subject because I have always found this odd. In Texas, an exist always has some verbiage. Even if it is a road that no one even knows that road by that name, it will be on the BGS. Also, even if the exit is intended to be just a crossover and has no destination, the BGS will say Frontage Rd.
The Next step up, a town name, or ghost town name, with no road name or US/state highway that goes to that town/ghost town. I find that equally as odd because the road has to have a name. You don't just exit and you were in that town.
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.2004782,-108.4198756,3a,75y,314.13h,89.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0zO-_pY9KLT7IBaKjtY_Zg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.2004782,-108.4198756,3a,75y,314.13h,89.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0zO-_pY9KLT7IBaKjtY_Zg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on August 11, 2020, 09:03:46 AM
On I-10 in southwestern New Mexico:
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.3096552,-108.6027939,3a,45.8y,320.31h,89.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1so-CtU7JTWNRCa7GOjgeoQw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.3096552,-108.6027939,3a,45.8y,320.31h,89.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1so-CtU7JTWNRCa7GOjgeoQw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Good subject because I have always found this odd. In Texas, an exist always has some verbiage. Even if it is a road that no one even knows that road by that name, it will be on the BGS. Also, even if the exit is intended to be just a crossover and has no destination, the BGS will say Frontage Rd.
The Next step up, a town name, or ghost town name, with no road name or US/state highway that goes to that town/ghost town. I find that equally as odd because the road has to have a name. You don't just exit and you were in that town.
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.2004782,-108.4198756,3a,75y,314.13h,89.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0zO-_pY9KLT7IBaKjtY_Zg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.2004782,-108.4198756,3a,75y,314.13h,89.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0zO-_pY9KLT7IBaKjtY_Zg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
While this is an interesting phenomena, I don't like it. Every exit should have some kind of name. The above exit could be called "Ulmorris Rd" or Turbine Station or something.
Quote from: mrsman on August 11, 2020, 11:56:57 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on August 11, 2020, 09:03:46 AM
On I-10 in southwestern New Mexico:
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.3096552,-108.6027939,3a,45.8y,320.31h,89.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1so-CtU7JTWNRCa7GOjgeoQw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.3096552,-108.6027939,3a,45.8y,320.31h,89.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1so-CtU7JTWNRCa7GOjgeoQw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Good subject because I have always found this odd. In Texas, an exist always has some verbiage. Even if it is a road that no one even knows that road by that name, it will be on the BGS. Also, even if the exit is intended to be just a crossover and has no destination, the BGS will say Frontage Rd.
The Next step up, a town name, or ghost town name, with no road name or US/state highway that goes to that town/ghost town. I find that equally as odd because the road has to have a name. You don't just exit and you were in that town.
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.2004782,-108.4198756,3a,75y,314.13h,89.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0zO-_pY9KLT7IBaKjtY_Zg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.2004782,-108.4198756,3a,75y,314.13h,89.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0zO-_pY9KLT7IBaKjtY_Zg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
While this is an interesting phenomena, I don't like it. Every exit should have some kind of name. The above exit could be called "Ulmorris Rd" or Turbine Station or something.
Again:
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.2274405,-108.9852824,3a,36.9y,301.59h,88.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfJGrYpP6HDbh5UCEB1ZPbw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.2274405,-108.9852824,3a,36.9y,301.59h,88.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfJGrYpP6HDbh5UCEB1ZPbw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on August 11, 2020, 09:03:46 AM
I find that equally as odd because the road has to have a name. You don't just exit and you were in that town.
I just want to point out that not all roads necessarily have a name.
The rural roads in the county I grew up in didn't have names, although they got them for 911 purposes about 15 years ago now.
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on August 11, 2020, 09:03:46 AM
On I-10 in southwestern New Mexico:
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.3096552,-108.6027939,3a,45.8y,320.31h,89.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1so-CtU7JTWNRCa7GOjgeoQw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.3096552,-108.6027939,3a,45.8y,320.31h,89.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1so-CtU7JTWNRCa7GOjgeoQw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Good subject because I have always found this odd. In Texas, an exist always has some verbiage. Even if it is a road that no one even knows that road by that name, it will be on the BGS. Also, even if the exit is intended to be just a crossover and has no destination, the BGS will say Frontage Rd.
The Next step up, a town name, or ghost town name, with no road name or US/state highway that goes to that town/ghost town. I find that equally as odd because the road has to have a name. You don't just exit and you were in that town.
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.2004782,-108.4198756,3a,75y,314.13h,89.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0zO-_pY9KLT7IBaKjtY_Zg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.2004782,-108.4198756,3a,75y,314.13h,89.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0zO-_pY9KLT7IBaKjtY_Zg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Some of the exit signs on I-10 in West TX turn up few results on Google or Maps (153-Michigan Flat, 159-Plateau, 166-Boracho Station, 173-Hurds Draw Rd, 184-Springhills).
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 14, 2020, 04:54:42 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on August 11, 2020, 09:03:46 AM
On I-10 in southwestern New Mexico:
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.3096552,-108.6027939,3a,45.8y,320.31h,89.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1so-CtU7JTWNRCa7GOjgeoQw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.3096552,-108.6027939,3a,45.8y,320.31h,89.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1so-CtU7JTWNRCa7GOjgeoQw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Good subject because I have always found this odd. In Texas, an exist always has some verbiage. Even if it is a road that no one even knows that road by that name, it will be on the BGS. Also, even if the exit is intended to be just a crossover and has no destination, the BGS will say Frontage Rd.
The Next step up, a town name, or ghost town name, with no road name or US/state highway that goes to that town/ghost town. I find that equally as odd because the road has to have a name. You don't just exit and you were in that town.
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.2004782,-108.4198756,3a,75y,314.13h,89.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0zO-_pY9KLT7IBaKjtY_Zg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.2004782,-108.4198756,3a,75y,314.13h,89.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0zO-_pY9KLT7IBaKjtY_Zg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Some of the exit signs on I-10 in West TX turn up few results on Google or Maps (153-Michigan Flat, 159-Plateau, 166-Boracho Station, 173-Hurds Draw Rd, 184-Springhills).
I know those exits. You have me on the Plateau one, but the rest I always thought were the name of the road. Roads do have odd descriptions as a postfix (here in Austin, Barton Skyway) so I always thought Flat and Station were the name of the road type. Springhills never registered in my mind as a place name like Steins, NM. It isn't an actual town.
Quote from: US 89 on August 11, 2020, 12:31:55 AM
Quote from: KeithE4Phx on August 11, 2020, 12:30:25 AM
I have to assume that most of these rural western exits are for private ranches/farms. This is going to be an issue with I-11 in Arizona, between Wickenburg and I-40 east of Kingman (and in Nevada north of Vegas?). There are about 3 dozen private ranch turnoffs on US 93 in that approximately 125 mile span that will still need access to the freeway. My guess is that they will remain at-grade intersections, similar to I-40 in Texas. Not only would it be expensive to upgrade these ranch turnoffs to ramps, but there isn't a lot of room to build them.
Is it feasible to build a frontage road and have exits with access to the frontage road every 10-15 miles or so?
The terrain is quite hilly in spots. It would be possible to fill in/level or elevate the frontage roads, just like was/is being done for AZ/US 93 going back to when it was first built, but it'd be expensive.
Besides, the gates that block entrance to the ranches are right at the turnoffs, maybe 50 feet back, tops. Ramps just might not be possible unless ADOT pays the ranchers for that land so they can build ramps. Pretty much all of these roads are dirt.
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on July 08, 2020, 12:03:19 PM
Here is one on I-80 in Utah: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7308835,-111.7597937,3a,75y,242.44h,103.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxb3_5xquY_XIEfjO15gMVg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7308835,-111.7597937,3a,75y,242.44h,103.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxb3_5xquY_XIEfjO15gMVg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
I am pretty sure that UDOT used to sign this one as a "Ranch Exit", but they seem to be getting away from this nomenclature lately.
Surprising, as I thought UDOT got rid of Ranch Aceess exits and just gave them specific names ‐‐at least thats what they did along I-70.
And my first exposure to generic Exit # exits was along I-94 in North Dakota in 1992.
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on August 14, 2020, 05:10:38 PM
Roads do have odd descriptions as a postfix (here in Austin, Barton Skyway) so I always thought Flat and Station were the name of the road type.
Just an FYI: that's called the 'generic', not the 'postfix'.
'Postfix' is a synonym for 'suffix', which is an ending stuck onto a root word. So, for example, in [Central Avenue], the
-al is a postfix, but the
Avenue is not.
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on August 14, 2020, 05:10:38 PM
Roads do have odd descriptions as a postfix (here in Austin, Barton Skyway)
You'd get a kick out of the KC area (both MO and KS) with all its "trafficways."
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 19, 2020, 08:07:59 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on August 14, 2020, 05:10:38 PM
Roads do have odd descriptions as a postfix (here in Austin, Barton Skyway)
You'd get a kick out of the KC area (both MO and KS) with all its "trafficways."
"Trafficway" is such a strange term; it confuses me every time I drive through KC. My best guess is that they're just major roads that mostly stay on the course of an existing street (7th Street Trafficway, 63rd Street Trafficway) or that just provide a connection from a particular region (Southwest Trafficway) to a major route.
Like, have they heard of "boulevard?" :spin:
Quote from: wolfiefrick on August 20, 2020, 09:38:12 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 19, 2020, 08:07:59 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on August 14, 2020, 05:10:38 PM
Roads do have odd descriptions as a postfix (here in Austin, Barton Skyway)
You'd get a kick out of the KC area (both MO and KS) with all its "trafficways."
"Trafficway" is such a strange term; it confuses me every time I drive through KC. My best guess is that they're just major roads that mostly stay on the course of an existing street (7th Street Trafficway, 63rd Street Trafficway) or that just provide a connection from a particular region (Southwest Trafficway) to a major route.
Like, have they heard of "boulevard?" :spin:
Don't forget how the KC area shunts "Highway" to the end. 50 Highway, 435 Highway, 291 Highway...
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on August 20, 2020, 01:30:54 PM
Don't forget how the KC area shunts "Highway" to the end. 50 Highway, 435 Highway, 291 Highway...
Isn't that a Missouri thing, not just a KC thing? I know people in Branson refer to roads as "76 Highway" or "BB Highway".
Quote from: kphoger on August 20, 2020, 01:52:16 PM
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on August 20, 2020, 01:30:54 PM
Don't forget how the KC area shunts "Highway" to the end. 50 Highway, 435 Highway, 291 Highway...
Isn't that a Missouri thing, not just a KC thing? I know people in Branson refer to roads as "76 Highway" or "BB Highway".
I've never heard that before in St. Louis; people just refer to highways by their designation. Occasionally, "highway" comes before, not after.
You'll get strange looks if you refer to I-64 as I-64 – in St. Louis, it's called "forty" despite the fact that it's been an interstate for over 20 years. I-270 is "two-seventy," MO-141 is "one-forty-one," and so forth.
True, I've never heard it in that part of the state.