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Title: Multi State state highways
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on June 02, 2020, 05:22:33 PM
I did some research today on Texas State Highway 23.  I saw that it enters Oklahoma and becomes Oklahoma State Highway 23, then enters Kansas and becomes Kansas State Highway 23.  Now I have seen several instances of a state highway leaving A state and entering B state and retaining the same highway number, but this is the first instance I have seen of a number being repeated for the same route through 3 states.  How many other instances are there of state highways that go through at least 3 states keeping the same route number?
Title: Re: Multi State state highways
Post by: hotdogPi on June 02, 2020, 05:31:29 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on June 02, 2020, 05:22:33 PM
I did some research today on Texas State Highway 23.  I saw that it enters Oklahoma and becomes Oklahoma State Highway 23, then enters Kansas and becomes Kansas State Highway 23.  Now I have seen several instances of a state highway leaving A state and entering B state and retaining the same highway number, but this is the first instance I have seen of a number being repeated for the same route through 3 states.  How many other instances are there of state highways that go through at least 3 states keeping the same route number?

New England: 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 (4 states), 32, 119, 138

WY/NE/IA/IL 92
ID/MT/ND/MN 200
DE/MD/PA 896 (clips corner)
Title: Re: Multi State state highways
Post by: MikieTimT on June 02, 2020, 05:55:53 PM
There's several between northern Arkansas and southern Missouri.

AR/MO 43, 59, 37, 125, 5, and 101.

Title: Re: Multi State state highways
Post by: HTM Duke on June 02, 2020, 07:40:54 PM
A couple that I've run across through my travels:

NC-/VA-/WV-16
FL-/GA-/SC-121
Title: Re: Multi State state highways
Post by: Scott5114 on June 02, 2020, 09:04:55 PM
NE/K/OK 99 (used to be TX 99 too)

Think there may have been a thread on this before.
Title: Re: Multi State state highways
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on June 02, 2020, 09:09:35 PM
CO/NE/SD 71
Title: Re: Multi State state highways
Post by: Konza on June 02, 2020, 09:10:57 PM
Quote from: MikieTimT on June 02, 2020, 05:55:53 PM
There's several between northern Arkansas and southern Missouri.

AR/MO 43, 59, 37, 125, 5, and 101.

MO 5 continues into Iowa as Iowa 5 as well.
Title: Re: Multi State state highways
Post by: Roadrunner75 on June 02, 2020, 09:24:20 PM
Until a few years ago there was NJ/NY/PA 17.
Title: Re: Multi State state highways
Post by: cwf1701 on June 02, 2020, 10:14:32 PM
MO/K/OK 66. It should be noted that it is the former US-66.
Title: Re: Multi State state highways
Post by: Scott5114 on June 02, 2020, 10:24:16 PM
Quote from: cwf1701 on June 02, 2020, 10:14:32 PM
MO/K/OK 66. It should be noted that it is the former US-66.

OK-66 ends in Vinita. The route of US-66 crosses the state line into Kansas as US-69 ALT.
Title: Re: Multi State state highways
Post by: Flint1979 on June 03, 2020, 12:26:15 AM
A former one with Michigan, Indiana and Ohio. Michigan's stretch has been turned back to local control but Ohio and Indiana still have theirs. IN-120, former M-120 and OH-120. Michigan reused M-120 in the Muskegon area.
Title: Re: Multi State state highways
Post by: sprjus4 on June 03, 2020, 01:18:28 AM
VA-NC 168
VA-NC 32
Title: Re: Multi State state highways
Post by: jp the roadgeek on June 03, 2020, 01:20:29 AM
Quote from: 1 on June 02, 2020, 05:31:29 PM
New England: 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 (4 states), 32, 119, 138

Also 25 and 26 (by 69 feet :))
Title: Re: Multi State state highways
Post by: zzcarp on June 03, 2020, 09:34:42 AM
CO/KS 96. It used to include MO 96 until KS US 400 was routed over it east of Wichita and US 160 was rerouted in eastern KS on the remainder.

NE/IA 2

This one is an anomaly: WY 70 briefly dips into Colorado for about a mile (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.0030376,-107.3862823/41.0027469,-107.36803/@41.0013933,-107.3825034,14.75z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0?hl=en). WYDOT maintains that stretch, though it does connect to Moffat CR 1 while in Colorado.
Title: Re: Multi State state highways
Post by: mgk920 on June 03, 2020, 11:59:18 AM
IL and WI 78.

Mike
Title: Re: Multi State state highways
Post by: hbelkins on June 03, 2020, 12:10:03 PM
If not for the lack of a Mississippi River crossing at Columbus, Ky., we could have MO-KY-VA 80.

Kentucky's only two bi-state examples are KY-VA 80 and KY-VA 160.

Virginia seems to share a lot of continuously state-numbered routes with West Virginia and North Carolina, but not Kentucky (other than those two) and Tennessee (TN-VA 70 and TN-VA 91 being exceptions.) I think part of the issue is that many of what Kentucky signs as state routes, since we have only one system; Virginia signs as state secondary routes. Other than the two Virginia examples, Kentucky has no state routes that retain their number when crossing a state line.
Title: Re: Multi State state highways
Post by: hotdogPi on June 03, 2020, 12:11:54 PM
This thread is about routes in three or more states. Not two.
Title: Re: Multi State state highways
Post by: Mapmikey on June 03, 2020, 05:52:41 PM
Quote from: 1 on June 03, 2020, 12:11:54 PM
This thread is about routes in three or more states. Not two.

Actually, this thread - https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=24662.0 - is about Multi-State routes

QuoteVirginia seems to share a lot of continuously state-numbered routes with West Virginia and North Carolina, but not Kentucky (other than those two) and Tennessee (TN-VA 70 and TN-VA 91 being exceptions.) I think part of the issue is that many of what Kentucky signs as state routes, since we have only one system; Virginia signs as state secondary routes. Other than the two Virginia examples, Kentucky has no state routes that retain their number when crossing a state line.

Virginia specifically matched its numbers to its neighbors in Sept 1940, including renumbering VA 77 as VA 75 because they thought TN 44 was going to be changed to TN 75.  The other current TN crossing that doesn't match is VA 224 which is not all that old in the grand scheme.  VA 287 used to be a discontinuous VA 17 to match MD 17.
Title: Re: Multi State state highways
Post by: webny99 on June 03, 2020, 06:10:40 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on June 03, 2020, 05:52:41 PM
Quote from: 1 on June 03, 2020, 12:11:54 PM
This thread is about routes in three or more states. Not two.
Actually, this thread - https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=24662.0 - is about Multi-State routes

That one is about routes in three or more states, too.
We don't really need both, but in MNHighwayMan's honor, the other one should be kept.
Title: Re: Multi State state highways
Post by: Rothman on June 04, 2020, 12:44:02 AM
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on June 02, 2020, 09:24:20 PM
Until a few years ago there was NJ/NY/PA 17.
No PA 17 any longer?
Title: Re: Multi State state highways
Post by: kphoger on June 04, 2020, 10:37:45 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on June 03, 2020, 05:52:41 PM

Quote from: 1 on June 03, 2020, 12:11:54 PM
This thread is about routes in three or more states. Not two.

Actually, this thread - https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=24662.0 - is about Multi-State routes


Are you implying that this thread isn't about three-state MSRs?

↓  Just read the OP  ↓

Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on June 02, 2020, 05:22:33 PM
I did some research today on Texas State Highway 23.  I saw that it enters Oklahoma and becomes Oklahoma State Highway 23, then enters Kansas and becomes Kansas State Highway 23.  Now I have seen several instances of a state highway leaving A state and entering B state and retaining the same highway number, but this is the first instance I have seen of a number being repeated for the same route through 3 states.  How many other instances are there of state highways that go through at least 3 states keeping the same route number?
Title: Re: Multi State state highways
Post by: Roadrunner75 on June 04, 2020, 10:50:19 AM
Quote from: Rothman on June 04, 2020, 12:44:02 AM
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on June 02, 2020, 09:24:20 PM
Until a few years ago there was NJ/NY/PA 17.
No PA 17 any longer?
From what I've read, the portion of I-86 in Pennsylvania is no longer designated as PA 17.  From what I can tell on Streetview, it's no longer signed as 17 in PA too, while it's still signed across the border in NY (with 86).  There is another unrelated 17 in PA, though.

Title: Re: Multi State state highways
Post by: Ketchup99 on June 04, 2020, 11:17:21 AM
I think that's right. I-86 in NY is entirely concurrent with NY-17 (although the reverse is not true), but the freeway that used to be PA-17 is now I-86 and the PA-17 concurrency has since been decommissioned.
Title: Re: Multi State state highways
Post by: hbelkins on June 04, 2020, 01:25:51 PM
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on June 04, 2020, 10:50:19 AM
Quote from: Rothman on June 04, 2020, 12:44:02 AM
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on June 02, 2020, 09:24:20 PM
Until a few years ago there was NJ/NY/PA 17.
No PA 17 any longer?
From what I've read, the portion of I-86 in Pennsylvania is no longer designated as PA 17.  From what I can tell on Streetview, it's no longer signed as 17 in PA too, while it's still signed across the border in NY (with 86).  There is another unrelated 17 in PA, though.

Definitely not signed as a state route in Pennsylvania between the state line and I-90.

Quote from: Mapmikey on June 03, 2020, 05:52:41 PM
The other current TN crossing that doesn't match is VA 224 which is not all that old in the grand scheme.

Surprised I didn't remember that one. Best way from the commercial area along US 11W east of downtown Kingsport to connect with US 23 and the route home for me is TN 93, which becomes VA 224.
Title: Re: Multi State state highways
Post by: csw on June 04, 2020, 04:55:13 PM
NC-GA-SC 28.
NC-VA 8 is only a two-state route but has significant mileage in both states.

Also VA-NC-SC 49.
Title: Re: Multi State state highways
Post by: 3467 on June 04, 2020, 05:34:57 PM
IL iA 64
The IL MO  110
IA MO  27
IL  IA   136
IL WI 83
Title: Re: Multi State state highways
Post by: DJ Particle on June 05, 2020, 02:01:37 AM
Quote from: Ketchup99 on June 04, 2020, 11:17:21 AM
I think that's right. I-86 in NY is entirely concurrent with NY-17 (although the reverse is not true), but the freeway that used to be PA-17 is now I-86 and the PA-17 concurrency has since been decommissioned.

It's also more than "a few years" ago.  PA-17 hasn't existed there for over 20 years now  *heh*

I actually drove on the NY/PA-17 Super-2 in 1996 only a couple years before it became a divided freeway.