(https://i.imgur.com/7UPGes1.png)
Has anyone seen a warning signal used like this? The top signal is identical, and the light flashes between top and bottom.
This is in Klamath Falls, OR on US-97. (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1886311,-121.8006246,3a,40.2y,14.37h,93.88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_3qtEDq0VhaPwGjpRsnkxg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
I have definitely seen similar in NYC to warn of an island, but I can't recall exactly where. In that case, it's flashing yellow orbs (not arrows) but also alternating flashing between a top yellow and bottom yellow signal.
Quote from: mrsman on June 09, 2020, 07:31:58 AM
I have definitely seen similar in NYC to warn of an island, but I can't recall exactly where. In that case, it's flashing yellow orbs (not arrows) but also alternating flashing between a top yellow and bottom yellow signal.
Probably just like this one in NJ: https://goo.gl/maps/vw6daYy1hWrnYjkaA
This one on I-395/I-695 in DC may be gone now because there were some gantry replacement projects slated for this highway last week and this week and I believe this gantry was one of them. Don't know whether this warning signal might be removed as part of that project. Unlike the one the OP posted, this one alternates between the two left-pointing arrows and the two right-pointing arrows.
https://goo.gl/maps/4pgi5DsuL1ZRYrd88
(https://live.staticflickr.com/3059/2466394424_3d65aab0f8_z_d.jpg)
Near Rudy, AR
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4036/5078053671_85cdf7dd47_z_d.jpg)
Truesdale, MO
^ Fort the Truesdale, MO example: US 63 just north of I-80 in Iowa (https://goo.gl/maps/xtpmd5DJoHtHaJvg6) has a similar setup[/url], and I think there may be more out there similar to it.
Then there was the vertical crossing signal that used to exist on IL 100 north of downtown Alton. Streetview (https://goo.gl/maps/dMkLPPP3ZSuybGVt6)
Quote from: US71 on June 09, 2020, 09:59:50 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/3059/2466394424_3d65aab0f8_z_d.jpg)
Near Rudy, AR
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4036/5078053671_85cdf7dd47_z_d.jpg)
Truesdale, MO
Woah the weird thing to me is the mechanical crossing bell on the advanced warning sign
iPhone
This flashing beacon suspended on a wire above an exit gore (https://goo.gl/maps/dAvinbfMdfFJASqCA) in Portland, Oregon. Simple, yet unforgettable.
Quote from: US71 on June 09, 2020, 09:59:50 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4036/5078053671_85cdf7dd47_z_d.jpg)
Truesdale, MO
There was one on Pilgrim Rd. in Menomonee Falls WI where there was a steep hill so traffic could only see the top pair of crossing lights. It was since been replaced with an overpass over the railroad.
Animated arrows at the old Battery Street Tunnel in Seattle:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50004587122_17b6e94e11_o_d.gif (https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50004587122_17b6e94e11_o_d.gif)
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Quote from: jeffandnicole on June 09, 2020, 08:45:05 AM
Quote from: mrsman on June 09, 2020, 07:31:58 AM
I have definitely seen similar in NYC to warn of an island, but I can't recall exactly where. In that case, it's flashing yellow orbs (not arrows) but also alternating flashing between a top yellow and bottom yellow signal.
Probably just like this one in NJ: https://goo.gl/maps/vw6daYy1hWrnYjkaA
Buffalo has some that are similar, but with a steady yellow in the middle: https://goo.gl/maps/LsqhrrvAynAf4CYi6. Sometimes, the outer two flash simultaneously.
Clute, TX has an interesting flashing red signal with two bulbs for each signal instead of one. Seems unique to me.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/259-299+E+Main+St,+Clute,+TX+77531/@29.0224365,-95.4024051,3a,75y,40.62h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1stn1REv5c3Xr4KkkCzAtYGg!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x864041fa50a5af73:0x2cdbfeb9d0cbca6e
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on June 09, 2020, 11:48:52 PM
This flashing beacon suspended on a wire above an exit gore (https://goo.gl/maps/dAvinbfMdfFJASqCA) in Portland, Oregon. Simple, yet unforgettable.
Yikes, that seems like a major hazard on a windy day.
Quote from: CoreySamson on June 14, 2020, 08:19:18 PM
Clute, TX has an interesting flashing red signal with two bulbs for each signal instead of one. Seems unique to me.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/259-299+E+Main+St,+Clute,+TX+77531/@29.0224365,-95.4024051,3a,75y,40.62h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1stn1REv5c3Xr4KkkCzAtYGg!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x864041fa50a5af73:0x2cdbfeb9d0cbca6e
No Stop signs supplementing those flashing reds? Also, it's more unique to me to see the separate double red flashing arrows, than just the solid double flashing reds alone which certainly apply to lefts as well.
Quote from: CoreySamson on June 14, 2020, 08:19:18 PM
Clute, TX has an interesting flashing red signal with two bulbs for each signal instead of one. Seems unique to me.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/259-299+E+Main+St,+Clute,+TX+77531/@29.0224365,-95.4024051,3a,75y,40.62h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1stn1REv5c3Xr4KkkCzAtYGg!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x864041fa50a5af73:0x2cdbfeb9d0cbca6e
Is that unusual? I'm familiar with
this one (https://goo.gl/maps/3XVsc7ckjx8tzswEA) near Seymour.
Quote from: kphoger on June 15, 2020, 12:35:40 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on June 14, 2020, 08:19:18 PM
Clute, TX has an interesting flashing red signal with two bulbs for each signal instead of one. Seems unique to me.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/259-299+E+Main+St,+Clute,+TX+77531/@29.0224365,-95.4024051,3a,75y,40.62h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1stn1REv5c3Xr4KkkCzAtYGg!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x864041fa50a5af73:0x2cdbfeb9d0cbca6e
Is that unusual? I'm familiar with this one (https://goo.gl/maps/3XVsc7ckjx8tzswEA) near Seymour.
NJ has plenty - I would say more the norm now than single ones.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9469023,-74.3286455,3a,75y,82.13h,99.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1saTRPrObqIHR5FCS_O5npZQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9469023,-74.3286455,3a,75y,82.13h,99.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1saTRPrObqIHR5FCS_O5npZQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6706656,-75.119224,3a,69.8y,172.52h,96.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKCKkbxXgggnlhE74_-F9Jg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6706656,-75.119224,3a,69.8y,172.52h,96.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKCKkbxXgggnlhE74_-F9Jg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0467935,-74.2093863,3a,75y,277.57h,100.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4-Eqm63YZvoIN57S63kfLQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0467935,-74.2093863,3a,75y,277.57h,100.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4-Eqm63YZvoIN57S63kfLQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on June 15, 2020, 01:45:14 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 15, 2020, 12:35:40 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on June 14, 2020, 08:19:18 PM
Clute, TX has an interesting flashing red signal with two bulbs for each signal instead of one. Seems unique to me.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/259-299+E+Main+St,+Clute,+TX+77531/@29.0224365,-95.4024051,3a,75y,40.62h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1stn1REv5c3Xr4KkkCzAtYGg!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x864041fa50a5af73:0x2cdbfeb9d0cbca6e
Is that unusual? I'm familiar with this one (https://goo.gl/maps/3XVsc7ckjx8tzswEA) near Seymour.
NJ has plenty - I would say more the norm now than single ones.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9469023,-74.3286455,3a,75y,82.13h,99.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1saTRPrObqIHR5FCS_O5npZQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9469023,-74.3286455,3a,75y,82.13h,99.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1saTRPrObqIHR5FCS_O5npZQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6706656,-75.119224,3a,69.8y,172.52h,96.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKCKkbxXgggnlhE74_-F9Jg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6706656,-75.119224,3a,69.8y,172.52h,96.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKCKkbxXgggnlhE74_-F9Jg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0467935,-74.2093863,3a,75y,277.57h,100.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4-Eqm63YZvoIN57S63kfLQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0467935,-74.2093863,3a,75y,277.57h,100.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4-Eqm63YZvoIN57S63kfLQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
I like them. I think having double red flashers (and being consistent in their use, i.e. all permanent flashers are doubled all regular signals using single red orbs) would make it easier for people to be aware that they are approaching a permanent stop sign. It draws attention and its unique usage will alert people to the stop condition.
There is something similar in my area, but it is not a full-time flash. It controls the side street on a specialized pedestrian signal that operates like a firehouse signal.
Normal operation: Main signal bottom flashing yellow, Side signal top flashing red
If a pedestrian pushes the button, the main signal will start to flash faster, side signal is the same
At the close of the cycle, the main singal middle yellow will light, side signal is the same
End of the cycle, the main signal is red, pedestrians will cross with its signal, and side street gets a double solid red.
Very weird. But one way of using double reds:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0398376,-77.0430818,3a,75y,166.12h,90.65t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZvWBU2zxx4zgh894iGefkw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Quote from: jay8g on June 14, 2020, 04:36:44 AM
Animated arrows at the old Battery Street Tunnel in Seattle:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50004587122_17b6e94e11_o_d.gif (https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50004587122_17b6e94e11_o_d.gif)
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Nearby on Westlake near Mercer. Since removed.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/dNvK5Wjmizf0rMzJXTiws7E3-XMYow-h0E8bLpmlNOe1slzMdgG8dNDNtnqO35eu8_IXesZWF3_FaNe5-lPrCgH5z5DmlJgck5xOuFswhuF1QVR6JIfvO_Ctxjtsy84W-nCICmy-CvFCOmi3VTVTXmjnJEcKTlEZa6lTK4qlyC3_n8yldGisafBTJ57qUcrwBAQoZeKyw9W3UIN4y6jvXBa_FLuei3R_27LYcrirKg4dKg44PxGcavEi6-4_b71rWfpgaTETxyrUUun6QYNMEH5ZbUADbaZOCzM2-HsGNz1E-Z45Vy1vv8AxB6IIzye6brfy33EvJleRuUk-8dQGUhh3BADu5l7HMcQ3zHFDYcnayyxjkPKFip_4BdX3DHmLzpHpfsfwyQJzs6UHkamWvJyDU36AOEZcOUmm8wfPwq3IBv2JuUCSJJUZMXnmyWPf83qrS4mnG-2ZOHYawaWmzxeNTO5-6GPPdEfx1hnI4XQ7e_3nYS01pSw2e1Yd6JsgJfB1Cf11LKNZWO3VSy6yKpUhWU46x7aV6z7tltSjIJKDKk5kc_9mwCwOXF0Kp4yCAAp13V3WCJrPK_sthkiKtNT8N5YpOgzlUuVgJG6hvHgGNn8b0HW-UUzf57hDilhPYasL7E2s1uw2ANnXlM8FLDEdH0IzrOrd=w320-h240-no)
Tacoma Dome Event warning sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/L2ofSUZ6sQBe6BeLA)
"Dome Event" is such an incredibly enigmatic phrase if you don't realize there's a domed event center nearby.
THE LIGHTS ARE FLASHING, WE ARE EXPERIENCING A TYPE IV DOME EVENT
Does this include switchable neon signs?
If so, the area around The Palace at Auburn Hills used to have a ton of switchable neon signs to direct traffic into and around the facility on event days. Most of it was replaced in late 2008, but some was restored around 2012.
There were full-on illuminated signs directed traffic on M-24 how to get past the Palace or into the different entrances, and how to utilize the trumpet interchange between BL-72/M-24 and I-75, which had a RIRO entrance to the Palace on the M-24 to I-75 portion.
Quote from: jay8g on June 14, 2020, 04:36:44 AM
Animated arrows at the old Battery Street Tunnel in Seattle:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50004587122_17b6e94e11_o_d.gif (https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50004587122_17b6e94e11_o_d.gif)
jay8g, I'm sorry, but I had to change your image into a URL in your post above because of the very large file size of the animated image. 76MB is way overkill to be automatically loaded when coming into a thread, especially if the person viewing the thread is on mobile and has extremely limited data. Heck, it's still a pain even on DSL. Stuff that big should honestly be uploaded to YouTube, and then posted here, as that gives the user the option if they want to load it or not, instead of being forced to as a 'gif image'.
Thanks! :wave:
Here's a pretty lousy excuse for an active railroad crossing:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2751998,-94.4038595,3a,60y,207.2h,92.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swl6pbqfEzOk9lVXYEtW7qA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
One dinky light on each side in Farnhamville, IA.
Quote from: index on February 27, 2021, 08:03:32 PM
Here's a pretty lousy excuse for an active railroad crossing:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2751998,-94.4038595,3a,60y,207.2h,92.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swl6pbqfEzOk9lVXYEtW7qA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
One dinky light on each side in Farnhamville, IA.
I wonder how much activity this line sees. Probably very few trains come through, so it doesn't really need a full signal system. Also, there are also stop signs mounted under each light that are manually rotated into place when a train comes.
Edit: Looking at this Trains Magazine map (https://trn.trains.com/~/media/import/files/pdf/8/7/d/iowa-abandonment-map.pdf), that rail line is cut at Farnhamville, so it probably only sees a couple trains a year. A flashing light at a crossing is more than the line deserves.
Railroad crossing lights on wires in Chattanooga, TN. This crossing has since been removed
http://www.rxrsignals.com/Tennessee/A-F/Chattanooga/Riverfront/2.jpg (http://www.rxrsignals.com/Tennessee/A-F/Chattanooga/Riverfront/2.jpg)
Quote from: FrCorySticha on February 27, 2021, 09:56:30 PM
Quote from: index on February 27, 2021, 08:03:32 PM
Here's a pretty lousy excuse for an active railroad crossing:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2751998,-94.4038595,3a,60y,207.2h,92.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swl6pbqfEzOk9lVXYEtW7qA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2751998,-94.4038595,3a,60y,207.2h,92.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swl6pbqfEzOk9lVXYEtW7qA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
One dinky light on each side in Farnhamville, IA.
I wonder how much activity this line sees. Probably very few trains come through, so it doesn't really need a full signal system. Also, there are also stop signs mounted under each light that are manually rotated into place when a train comes.
Edit: Looking at this Trains Magazine map (https://trn.trains.com/~/media/import/files/pdf/8/7/d/iowa-abandonment-map.pdf), that rail line is cut at Farnhamville, so it probably only sees a couple trains a year. A flashing light at a crossing is more than the line deserves.
If you have to manually activate parts of the crossing, that kind of defeats the purpose of giving the crossing any features of an active one at all, which makes the poor little light even more lousy. You may as well make it passive and flag the crossing at that point.
Quote from: index on February 27, 2021, 10:11:47 PM
If you have to manually activate parts of the crossing, that kind of defeats the purpose of giving the crossing any features of an active one at all, which makes the poor little light even more lousy. You may as well make it passive and flag the crossing at that point.
Agreed, but the light probably exists only to tell drivers, "Hey, there's actually a train here."
A flashing red light and stop sign near the railroad switching station. The red light flashes all the time regardless of if a train is crossing it https://goo.gl/maps/aiwVGHc6cZUx8Dgg8
Quote from: Brian556 on February 27, 2021, 10:09:02 PM
Railroad crossing lights on wires in Chattanooga, TN. This crossing has since been removed
http://www.rxrsignals.com/Tennessee/A-F/Chattanooga/Riverfront/2.jpg (http://www.rxrsignals.com/Tennessee/A-F/Chattanooga/Riverfront/2.jpg)
wow thats crazy, never seen anything like that before. I wonder what the reason was for such sloppy work?
Joplin, MO has an old wig-wag, or did about 10 years ago
(https://live.staticflickr.com/3504/3767767906_95f75ab608_z_d.jpg)
Quote from: US71 on February 28, 2021, 03:05:17 PM
Joplin, MO has an old wig-wag, or did about 10 years ago
(https://live.staticflickr.com/3504/3767767906_95f75ab608_z_d.jpg)
Isn't it still up? There's some recent videos/pictures that show it in operation. They even retrofitted it with LEDs (which makes it even more unique, I'm sure you can't name another wigwag that uses LEDs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D216Nkr4Pqo
Simple mast arm installation. (https://goo.gl/maps/5cUhJZ2ERXT9syNd8) Since removed. Probably put up by the city to replace a full street intersection signal. Yes, little Houser Way once had signals, earning Renton the honor of Traffic Light Capital of the World.
Quote from: index on February 28, 2021, 08:46:22 PM
Isn't it still up? There's some recent videos/pictures that show it in operation. They even retrofitted it with LEDs (which makes it even more unique, I'm sure you can't name another wigwag that uses LEDs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D216Nkr4Pqo
I've not been by in a while so I wasn't sure,
Quote from: Brian556 on February 27, 2021, 10:09:02 PM
Railroad crossing lights on wires in Chattanooga, TN. This crossing has since been removed
http://www.rxrsignals.com/Tennessee/A-F/Chattanooga/Riverfront/2.jpg (http://www.rxrsignals.com/Tennessee/A-F/Chattanooga/Riverfront/2.jpg)
Quote from: fillup420 on February 28, 2021, 12:07:57 PM
wow thats crazy, never seen anything like that before. I wonder what the reason was for such sloppy work?
Can you say "can opener"? That was a cantilevered mast with the cantilever missing. An overheight truck probably took down the cantilevered signals. Which raises the obvious question "how do you know if your truck will fit under the railroad cantilever?" This crossing is still level with the roadway, but most of the well-utilized trackage in the United States have been raised significantly over the past 3 decades to assure proper drainage. A two-foot increase in the crossing elevation will most certainly result in a wedge angle for trucks approaching the design height of the cantilevered flashing light signals (CFLS).
Quote from: index on February 27, 2021, 08:03:32 PM
Here's a pretty lousy excuse for an active railroad crossing:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2751998,-94.4038595,3a,60y,207.2h,92.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swl6pbqfEzOk9lVXYEtW7qA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
One dinky light on each side in Farnhamville, IA.
Quote from: Big John on February 27, 2021, 11:44:04 PM
A flashing red light and stop sign near the railroad switching station. The red light flashes all the time regardless of if a train is crossing it https://goo.gl/maps/aiwVGHc6cZUx8Dgg8
It seems like you guys think all grade crossings typically get signals.
Quote from: kphoger on March 01, 2021, 11:38:55 AM
Quote from: index on February 27, 2021, 08:03:32 PM
Here's a pretty lousy excuse for an active railroad crossing:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2751998,-94.4038595,3a,60y,207.2h,92.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swl6pbqfEzOk9lVXYEtW7qA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2751998,-94.4038595,3a,60y,207.2h,92.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swl6pbqfEzOk9lVXYEtW7qA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
One dinky light on each side in Farnhamville, IA.
Quote from: Big John on February 27, 2021, 11:44:04 PM
A flashing red light and stop sign near the railroad switching station. The red light flashes all the time regardless of if a train is crossing it https://goo.gl/maps/aiwVGHc6cZUx8Dgg8 (https://goo.gl/maps/aiwVGHc6cZUx8Dgg8)
It seems like you guys think all grade crossings typically get signals.
I mean, not really. Are these crossings not unusual? That's, well, the whole reason they were posted here. I'm not saying "it's weird because it's a passive crossing and has no automatic warning", it's weird because of the way it warns people. I don't know of any other crossings that have a stop beacon or need to have their (one) light manually activated every time a train approaches.
This flashing arrow on US 6 in Provincetown, MA. It's used to help guide traffic onto MA 6A when that particular stretch is blown over with sand or the crosswind is high.
https://goo.gl/maps/T39tMxxCt9MD3GVv9 (https://goo.gl/maps/T39tMxxCt9MD3GVv9)
This pair of covered signs on CT 15 entering the West Rock Tunnel. Removed as of 2013. They warned of either and accident in the tunnel or ice in the tunnel. I never saw them uncovered, except the first line is most likely CAUTION.
https://goo.gl/maps/YyEHn2g2hKoBhKc4A (https://goo.gl/maps/YyEHn2g2hKoBhKc4A)
RR Xing signals and gates on the SB end of the Lake Pontchartrain Causeway going NB. I guess to close that span.
https://goo.gl/maps/6HnXy4MZodtnaWfj9 (https://goo.gl/maps/6HnXy4MZodtnaWfj9)
One of the infamous light-up LANE ENDS pictograms on the approach to the former Tappan Zee Bridge. These would come on when the movable barrier gave the opposite side the extra lane.
https://goo.gl/maps/35EzCMq6SQvdPT4f9 (https://goo.gl/maps/35EzCMq6SQvdPT4f9)
Quote from: index on February 28, 2021, 08:46:22 PM
Isn't it still up? There's some recent videos/pictures that show it in operation. They even retrofitted it with LEDs (which makes it even more unique, I'm sure you can't name another wigwag that uses LEDs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D216Nkr4Pqo
Kinda cool that it was made here in the Pittsburgh (Swissvale) area. :nod:
Supplemental traffic light crossing in front of a traffic light that already responds to the train, which gets it's own traffic light signal.