[Split from the "Road signs and states' rights" thread.]
Quote from: Hellfighter on April 13, 2010, 04:21:43 PM
Wait for the day when some state starts using Comic Sams MS for a font! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
the "slow your bleeding heart down, my immediate ancestor works here" signs are a bastardized version of Comic Sans.
Quote from: joseph1723 on April 15, 2010, 12:11:57 AM
You have a picture of one of these signs? I'm interested seeing how one of these looks :pan:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm1.static.flickr.com%2F43%2F75439296_ae0c67629f.jpg%3Fv%3D0&hash=85bebf146e96dfe0a82aa0ca7f34331d1c9ed3c6)
random Internet search.
seriously, when I am doing 85mph on the roads built to support 100, the last thing I need is a "think of the children!" plea for socialism. At the very least, it demands that I drive faster.
I like the absolute chicken scratch on the ones when you come into New Mexico on I-25- on the right side is Slow Down for Mommy and on the left is Slow Down for Daddy. Before you even get the WELCOME TO NEW MEXICO sign they give you this one, and it's not even a construction issue. It looks permanent.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidjcorcoran.com%2Fkillmommy.jpg&hash=f446a55f6e04ca0aa142ab595078afaac78b7877)
yep, that abomination is there, and exactly parallel to it on the other side of the road is the "daddy" variant.
at least there is a classic '57-spec New Mexico I-25 shield just a few feet over the state line, on an overpass on top of Raton Summit. Regard the classic sign; disregard the socialist riffraff.
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Oklahoma's particularly insidious version, courtesy David Backlin.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on April 15, 2010, 12:48:04 AM
yep, that abomination is there, and exactly parallel to it on the other side of the road is the "daddy" variant.
at least there is a classic '57-spec New Mexico I-25 shield just a few feet over the state line, on an overpass on top of Raton Summit. Regard the classic sign; disregard the socialist riffraff.
I'm not sure how "Drive cautiously so you don't kill our highway workers" is "socialist", but "Slow down my <insert parental figure here> works here" sure is an ugly font and a stupid way of saying it. Perhaps we should say "Slow down, autistic children making road signs" instead :-P
Quote from: shoptb1 on April 15, 2010, 01:16:53 AM
I'm not sure how "Drive cautiously so you don't kill our highway workers" is "socialist"
the fact that they emphasize the breeding members of the working class above all others... reproduction is codified to be the be-all end-all of human achievement and that certainly violates standard capitalism, in which actually delivering positive good to the marketplace is a necessary condition of survival.
congratulations, you have fallen prey to your lowest-common-denominator biological instincts, and created a crying and shitting drain on society - or four, or eighteen if you are a Duggar... let us reward you with tax exemptions, welfare, and other perverse incentives by which you prefer to spread your legs and/or shoot the easy white, instead of going to work.
socialism indeed. Use a condom, you deranged idiot. Reproduction is murder.
I prefer the IDOT version: "Hit A Worker: $10,000 Fine, Lose Your License". Although "Hit A Worker is in an orange banner across the top of the sign, so it almost looks like it's advocating that you Hit A Worker at first.
If you're driving on a public highway funded by taxpayers, isn't that already socialist, Mr. Marx? :-P
/Not that I'm a fan of those silly signs (especially the PC ones)
Years ago, Alabama would put up signs that said "People Work There" when approaching a construction zone.
I can't speak for Marx, but Engels at least would have denounced the argument that publicly funded highways are "socialist" (i.e., creatures of the devil) as an instance of false consciousness.
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 15, 2010, 01:26:06 AM
I prefer the IDOT version: "Hit A Worker: $10,000 Fine, Lose Your License". Although "Hit A Worker is in an orange banner across the top of the sign, so it almost looks like it's advocating that you Hit A Worker at first.
It's a challenge to Chicago Drivers. :ded:
Seriously though, and this may be the start of a new thread, some contruction zones can be very poorly set up. I was on I-355 sbd last night getting off at Butterfield Rd (IL-56). They had the right lane blocked, and the exit marked, but the position of the barrels on the ramp left much to be desired. There was a total and complete lack of signage stating which side of the barrels to go on, and the barrels were set up more like a shalom course for the downhill.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on April 15, 2010, 01:24:43 AM
Quote from: shoptb1 on April 15, 2010, 01:16:53 AM
I'm not sure how "Drive cautiously so you don't kill our highway workers" is "socialist"
the fact that they emphasize the breeding members of the working class above all others... reproduction is codified to be the be-all end-all of human achievement and that certainly violates standard capitalism, in which actually delivering positive good to the marketplace is a necessary condition of survival.
congratulations, you have fallen prey to your lowest-common-denominator biological instincts, and created a crying and shitting drain on society - or four, or eighteen if you are a Duggar... let us reward you with tax exemptions, welfare, and other perverse incentives by which you prefer to spread your legs and/or shoot the easy white, instead of going to work.
socialism indeed. Use a condom, you deranged idiot. Reproduction is murder.
Intense rant. I can see why you are angry at those who pop out kids because they get almost free money thrown at them. I work with a girl who has two kids at 23 and gets welfare and WIC to feed the baby and she only works 8 hours because she needs "spending money". Happens in the military too as they are called anchor babies because they get pregnant and can't be deployed so they get a sweet job pushing pencils with all the benefits as anyone in the sand. I think anyone could have as many kids as they want but they must support them with very limited government help. I shouldn't pay for someone elses personal choice.
Anyway the MUTCD should be a guideline and states shouldn't be strong-armed into using it through the manipulation of highway funds. Individual states had great ideas and other states adopted those ideas such as colored shields and the federal government stomped all over that. It is the whole idea of federalism, it is like an experiment and each state tries something out. We have a base line which is the Constitution and if it is not enumerated then the right is to the states or to the people.
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This sign used to sit in my office until it was installed on the Mountain Parkway.
Press release referencing the theme:
http://migration.kentucky.gov/Newsroom/kytc.d10/2010-04-09_workzone_safety.htm
remind me not to drive on the Mountain Parkway. what a disgrace of a sign.
Quote from: hbelkins on April 15, 2010, 08:15:30 PM
[Removed redundant image. -S.]
This sign used to sit in my office until it was installed on the Mountain Parkway.
Press release referencing the theme:
http://migration.kentucky.gov/Newsroom/kytc.d10/2010-04-09_workzone_safety.htm
So is the theme to remind drivers that workers are parents too? Seems like this has become a common theme in many states recently...has it proven to reduce highway worker fatalities? Is the "crayon-scribble" font somehow more effective in conveying this message?
Quote from: agentsteel53 on April 15, 2010, 01:24:43 AM
Quote from: shoptb1 on April 15, 2010, 01:16:53 AM
I'm not sure how "Drive cautiously so you don't kill our highway workers" is "socialist"
the fact that they emphasize the breeding members of the working class above all others... reproduction is codified to be the be-all end-all of human achievement and that certainly violates standard capitalism, in which actually delivering positive good to the marketplace is a necessary condition of survival.
congratulations, you have fallen prey to your lowest-common-denominator biological instincts, and created a crying and shitting drain on society - or four, or eighteen if you are a Duggar... let us reward you with tax exemptions, welfare, and other perverse incentives by which you prefer to spread your legs and/or shoot the easy white, instead of going to work.
socialism indeed. Use a condom, you deranged idiot. Reproduction is murder.
Jesus, dude. So much anger. Take a deep breath, grab a beer, and then can we go back to talking about roads? Regardless of everyone's view on capitalism, socialism, and parenthood, I think we can all agree that those signs are hideous.
I love a good political debate; maybe we could continue this particular discussion in the off-topic board.
On the I-85 work zone in south Metro Atlanta, between S.R. 74/Senoia Road and the Coweta-Meriwether County line, there were those mobile construction zone electronic message board signs that read, "Slow Down -- My Mommy (or Daddy) Works Here."
Be well,
Bryant
I think Missouri needs a few of those. There was an accident last week near Carthage where a worker was clipped by an RV.
MSHP says they won't press charges against the driver (maybe because the worker was back on the job the next day?)
Well, what it is is an attempt at making an emotional appeal to drivers. You know, don't slow down because just the sign says so, *hysterical mother voice* Please! Think of the children!
What I really wonder is whether the concept actually works. Do these signs make people slow down more than "Give 'em a brake" or even just "Construction ahead"?
Either way, the signs are hideous. No argument there.
Those "Slow Down, My [parental unit] Works Here" signs were all the rage in Pennsylvania at the turn of the century. It's been years since I saw one at the beginning of a construction zone.
Quote from: shoptb1 on April 16, 2010, 01:07:33 AM
So is the theme to remind drivers that workers are parents too? Seems like this has become a common theme in many states recently...has it proven to reduce highway worker fatalities? Is the "crayon-scribble" font somehow more effective in conveying this message?
It's supposed to invoke an "Aww, how cute! Maybe I really
should slow down" sense of feeling when reading it.
Awe great, now we're throwing kids into the construction "slow down" messages. :-/
Quote from: Bryant5493 on April 16, 2010, 08:21:13 AM
On the I-85 work zone in south Metro Atlanta, between S.R. 74/Senoia Road and the Coweta-Meriwether County line, there were those mobile construction zone electronic message board signs that read, "Slow Down -- My Mommy (or Daddy) Works Here."
At least those mobile message signs don't have one of those hideous fonts - yet.
Quote from: Duke87 on April 16, 2010, 11:16:16 AM
Please! Think of the children!
if someone shrieks at me to think, my first instinct will be to think about why they're shrieking.
the resulting conclusion tends not to be favorable to the shrieker.
I'm in the minority here, but I like the "My Daddy.." signs. It's something different that catches your eye. I like the idea that thw writing is different as it is supposed to look like it is written bya kid.
Of course if they do this for other signs it would burn out REAL quick.
In CT, there are a couple diamond warning signs with ET wearing a seat belt and the sign says "Buckle Up" It catches your attention but can cause burn-out if it is done too much.
I have no problem with the intention of the signs; driving through construction zones should be done with greater caution. But I don't like the childishness of the appeal to sentiment for children, and I hate, Hate, HATE the kiddie font wherever it appears! Unfortunately, I'm a teacher, and I have a grit my teeth seeing it way too often!
Quote from: xonhulu on April 18, 2010, 03:39:40 PM
Unfortunately, I'm a teacher, and I have a grit my teeth seeing it way too often!
teach the kids to write neater! I sure could write neater when I was four!
I don't mind them putting up signs to tell drivers to slow down but it's the kiddie font that I don't like. I think that the FHWA font or even Clearview or Helvetica to a extent makes the message seem more serious than that kiddie font. I haven't seen anything like this in Ontario before though, we only use a sign that looks like this:
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You want to be serious? There's a font for that...
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Quote from: doofy103 on April 18, 2010, 03:15:27 PM
In CT, there are a couple diamond warning signs with ET wearing a seat belt and the sign says "Buckle Up"
Yeah, there's a story there. (http://www.ctmuseumquest.com/?page_id=485)
Quote from: agentsteel53 on April 18, 2010, 04:04:23 PM
teach the kids to write neater! I sure could write neater when I was four!
I'd be happy to try, but I teach high school math...
Quote from: doofy103 on April 18, 2010, 03:15:27 PM
I'm in the minority here, but I like the "My Daddy.." signs. It's something different that catches your eye.
If it catches your eye, then you're not paying well enough attention at all the Mommies and Daddies working. ;)