There's a good example on I-29 in Council Bluffs:
https://www.google.pl/maps/@41.2773487,-95.8752044,3a,75y,76.02h,69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgVT3yXUmDqKA7PUChBcK0w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Any other examples, past or present?
Nice.
I'll add I-55 around Joliet, Illinois: https://goo.gl/maps/tAbzRAWr4cWK7LEc8
Rebuilt and widened in 2007, started falling apart almost immediately. I think IDOT has more patches on it than actual pavement now.
Then, may I add I-80 through Joliet, Illinois (aren't we doubly blessed?): https://goo.gl/maps/AE753cz1HRsn3q5N6
Yes, that is indeed a metal plate covering a hole in the bridge deck. Did I mention that I-55 gets them too? https://goo.gl/maps/dghmhTwrhrR1oKct8
I couldn't pick out the exact portions using Street View, but on June 20, 2019, we drove the length of New York's I-88 eastbound and we both thought large sections of it were extremely bumpy and were among the worst Interstate Highway pavement conditions we'd encountered in quite some time other than in work zones. (US-219 from I-86 south to the Pennsylvania state line was worse when we encountered that five days later on our way home, but that's not an Interstate.)
Having just driven a U-Haul truck from New Hampshire to Arizona, I'm going to nominate I-84 from Connecticut through Pennsylvania, especially the Newburgh—Beacon Bridge. https://goo.gl/maps/iyeb7Eay4vgMSDkb8, but Google Street View doesn't really do it justice.
Quote from: Brandon on July 09, 2020, 04:02:17 PM
Nice.
I'll add I-55 around Joliet, Illinois: https://goo.gl/maps/tAbzRAWr4cWK7LEc8
Rebuilt and widened in 2007, started falling apart almost immediately. I think IDOT has more patches on it than actual pavement now.
Then, may I add I-80 through Joliet, Illinois (aren't we doubly blessed?): https://goo.gl/maps/AE753cz1HRsn3q5N6
Yes, that is indeed a metal plate covering a hole in the bridge deck. Did I mention that I-55 gets them too? https://goo.gl/maps/dghmhTwrhrR1oKct8
Driving across the Poplar Street Bridge from MO to IL, the pavement always gets crappy once you get to East St Louis (travelling through the incredibly overbuilt I-70/64/55/IL-3 interchange). See here (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.618531,-90.1661305,3a,28.7y,22.83h,78.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syOQoyUV1SiVLfvSVAJMdUQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/), here (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6193461,-90.165322,3a,80.2y,338.98h,67.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqenoMBYUXyjIGV8_9PLUmw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/), and here (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6286182,-90.1593354,3a,75y,76.28h,56.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sISH5MvLLZwrTBwKo202Rhw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/). Check out the 2007 imagery (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6286104,-90.1593361,3a,75y,66.35h,78.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sguy88uvzNQlAXLchghNHEg!2e0!7i3328!8i1664/) on the last one; it had already developed a reddish hue by 2009 (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.628629,-90.1593378,3a,75y,66.35h,78.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shWgf4CO73tFY481CNzhsqw!2e0!7i3328!8i1664/) and gone to shit by 2013 (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.628636,-90.1593561,3a,75y,66.35h,78.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sP3MbcPeHwr7TQ1Qg_kojbw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/), receiving only minor patching since then. It may be a symptom of doing jobs on the cheap, but some of IL's asphalt pavement quality is really, really poor. At least they usually do concrete (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0293098,-87.9652141,3a,75y,339.02h,86.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdf-LzITPQh_CANu47xighw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) right.
Quote from: STLmapboy on July 09, 2020, 04:30:27 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 09, 2020, 04:02:17 PM
Nice.
I'll add I-55 around Joliet, Illinois: https://goo.gl/maps/tAbzRAWr4cWK7LEc8
Rebuilt and widened in 2007, started falling apart almost immediately. I think IDOT has more patches on it than actual pavement now.
Then, may I add I-80 through Joliet, Illinois (aren't we doubly blessed?): https://goo.gl/maps/AE753cz1HRsn3q5N6
Yes, that is indeed a metal plate covering a hole in the bridge deck. Did I mention that I-55 gets them too? https://goo.gl/maps/dghmhTwrhrR1oKct8
Driving across the Poplar Street Bridge from MO to IL, the pavement always gets crappy once you get to East St Louis (travelling through the incredibly overbuilt I-70/64/55/IL-3 interchange). See here (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.618531,-90.1661305,3a,28.7y,22.83h,78.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syOQoyUV1SiVLfvSVAJMdUQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/), here (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6193461,-90.165322,3a,80.2y,338.98h,67.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqenoMBYUXyjIGV8_9PLUmw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/), and here (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6286182,-90.1593354,3a,75y,76.28h,56.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sISH5MvLLZwrTBwKo202Rhw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/). Check out the 2007 imagery (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6286104,-90.1593361,3a,75y,66.35h,78.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sguy88uvzNQlAXLchghNHEg!2e0!7i3328!8i1664/) on the last one; it had already developed a reddish hue by 2009 (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.628629,-90.1593378,3a,75y,66.35h,78.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shWgf4CO73tFY481CNzhsqw!2e0!7i3328!8i1664/) and gone to shit by 2013 (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.628636,-90.1593561,3a,75y,66.35h,78.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sP3MbcPeHwr7TQ1Qg_kojbw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/), receiving only minor patching since then. It may be a symptom of doing jobs on the cheap, but some of IL's asphalt pavement quality is really, really poor. At least they usually do concrete (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0293098,-87.9652141,3a,75y,339.02h,86.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdf-LzITPQh_CANu47xighw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) right.
That last one is ISTHA, not IDOT though. ISTHA usually does a far better job than IDOT.
head north from OKC you'll think you have a flat tire. and every year I go that way, it never gets fixed.
Quote from: STLmapboy on July 09, 2020, 03:44:14 PM
There's a good example on I-29 in Council Bluffs:
https://www.google.pl/maps/@41.2773487,-95.8752044,3a,75y,76.02h,69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgVT3yXUmDqKA7PUChBcK0w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Any other examples, past or present?
If you go back a year in the GSV, you can see how quickly it deteriorated.
I-295 in NJ has had spats of bad pavement. Between Interchanges 1 - 11 (Del. Mem. Br. to around US 322), it had some bad pavement a few decades ago, almost as if there was an encouragement to use the NJ Turnpike instead. But after a good reconstruction project, the State has kept it in good condition since with some regular maintenance and repavings.
Also on I-295 about 10-15 years ago, the concrete between Exits 45 and 57 was in bad condition. NJDOT had a plan to use the summer when traffic is lighter to shift NB traffic to the SB roadway, reduce each direction from 3 lanes to 2 lanes, and do a full depth reconstruction. The SB direction would be completed the following summer. The SB roadway, already in bad shape, deteriorated even faster with the extra traffic on that side of the highway. NJDOT sped up the construction on the NB side, finished it early, immediately moved both directions of traffic to the NB side, and reconstructed the SB side from August to early October. Congestion was much more extensive after Labor Day when summer vacations were over, but the alternative was going to be a axle bending, tire chewing pavement thru the winter, so the month or so of pain was well worth the inconvenience.
Quote from: STLmapboy on July 09, 2020, 04:30:27 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 09, 2020, 04:02:17 PM
Nice.
I'll add I-55 around Joliet, Illinois: https://goo.gl/maps/tAbzRAWr4cWK7LEc8
Rebuilt and widened in 2007, started falling apart almost immediately. I think IDOT has more patches on it than actual pavement now.
Then, may I add I-80 through Joliet, Illinois (aren't we doubly blessed?): https://goo.gl/maps/AE753cz1HRsn3q5N6
Yes, that is indeed a metal plate covering a hole in the bridge deck. Did I mention that I-55 gets them too? https://goo.gl/maps/dghmhTwrhrR1oKct8
Driving across the Poplar Street Bridge from MO to IL, the pavement always gets crappy once you get to East St Louis (travelling through the incredibly overbuilt I-70/64/55/IL-3 interchange). See here (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.618531,-90.1661305,3a,28.7y,22.83h,78.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syOQoyUV1SiVLfvSVAJMdUQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/), here (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6193461,-90.165322,3a,80.2y,338.98h,67.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqenoMBYUXyjIGV8_9PLUmw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/), and here (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6286182,-90.1593354,3a,75y,76.28h,56.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sISH5MvLLZwrTBwKo202Rhw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/). Check out the 2007 imagery (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6286104,-90.1593361,3a,75y,66.35h,78.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sguy88uvzNQlAXLchghNHEg!2e0!7i3328!8i1664/) on the last one; it had already developed a reddish hue by 2009 (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.628629,-90.1593378,3a,75y,66.35h,78.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shWgf4CO73tFY481CNzhsqw!2e0!7i3328!8i1664/) and gone to shit by 2013 (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.628636,-90.1593561,3a,75y,66.35h,78.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sP3MbcPeHwr7TQ1Qg_kojbw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/), receiving only minor patching since then. It may be a symptom of doing jobs on the cheap, but some of IL's asphalt pavement quality is really, really poor. At least they usually do concrete (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0293098,-87.9652141,3a,75y,339.02h,86.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdf-LzITPQh_CANu47xighw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) right.
Part of me wonders how the 3rd laning on I-57 between Mt Vernon/I-64 and Marion/I-24 will ultimately hold up, as that project slowly progresses over the next decade+. Hopefully D9 does a much better job with it than D1 did with the I-55 Bolingbrook-Joliet poop show job
So far the segment in Marion is doing ok, but it is only a couple years old at this point
The Concrete 6-laning jobs around Effingham, Mt Vernon, and Bloomington/Normal are in pretty good shape. I-74 to the west out of Downtown Peoria is done well, also
Quote from: STLmapboy on July 09, 2020, 03:44:14 PM
There's a good example on I-29 in Council Bluffs:
https://www.google.pl/maps/@41.2773487,-95.8752044,3a,75y,76.02h,69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgVT3yXUmDqKA7PUChBcK0w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Any other examples, past or present?
That was a genuinely terrible stretch, and has been for years, but I believe it was repaved (asphalt overlay?) this year. It'd always wake up any sleeping passengers in the car. Iowa's good roads are very good, but when they get old they can get terrible.
Quote from: Brandon on July 09, 2020, 04:02:17 PM
Yes, that is indeed a metal plate covering a hole in the bridge deck.
OkDOT got a bit of public shaming for using a disused warning sign to patch a hole in a bridge deck on I-40 in Del City.
I-74 between Cincinnati and Indianapolis seams to always be bad.
SM-G950U
I-94 in Detroit. From what I can remember it's bad on the west side around Central especially. The whole highway in Detroit for I-94 is an obsolete joke.
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 09, 2020, 07:19:11 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 09, 2020, 04:02:17 PM
Yes, that is indeed a metal plate covering a hole in the bridge deck.
OkDOT got a bit of public shaming for using a disused warning sign to patch a hole in a bridge deck on I-40 in Del City.
Sounds like them.
I tell you what, guys: I-35 has gone through some terrible years in both Oklahoma and Iowa. Most of the awful parts have now been repaved and are doing well but, back nine years ago or so, it wasn't pretty.
I-95 through Delco & Chester Pa is very bad, however they have started repaving & doing other construction projects to bring the road to 2020.
Google streetview has already updated I-95 through the area but it used to look like this in almost all 3 lanes
On NB & SB
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200710/d0afa8bf993fb1f97eff6a513248155e.jpg)
iPhone
Interstate 90/New York State Thruway through the Seneca Nation is bad enough, there's a Rough Road sign posted with an advisory speed of 45 mph:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5723138,-79.0828934,3a,75y,49.1h,90.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZuAcqJdE_GUUWP-CBPgFYw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
I-39/US 51 just south of the Rockford US 20 Freeway is pretty awful, if memory serves. IDOT even has a permanent Yellow "Rough Road" sign SB
https://goo.gl/maps/WWwuHWuZo58iBgRp8
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 09, 2020, 07:19:11 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 09, 2020, 04:02:17 PM
Yes, that is indeed a metal plate covering a hole in the bridge deck.
OkDOT got a bit of public shaming for using a disused warning sign to patch a hole in a bridge deck on I-40 in Del City.
I've worked on many bridge deck hole repairs. We would use a large piece of steel. Theoretically, you could remove the metal after the concrete dried, however, we never did.
Quote from: Crown Victoria on July 09, 2020, 08:53:34 PM
Interstate 90/New York State Thruway through the Seneca Nation is bad enough, there's a Rough Road sign posted with an advisory speed of 45 mph:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5723138,-79.0828934,3a,75y,49.1h,90.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZuAcqJdE_GUUWP-CBPgFYw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
Fortunately, that one was just fixed (https://www.facebook.com/NYSThruway/photos/a.535068466608073/3006748872773341/?type=3&eid=ARCzZ31BhPskbW6FTM3ax91zvODqZ0pGTkwZxM3Ptt_rnyKsQvn2uWFklwORLi5aDYDxfxPkO_OUJac9&__tn__=EEHH-R).
Quote from: ilpt4u on July 09, 2020, 06:14:24 PM
The Concrete 6-laning jobs around Effingham, Mt Vernon, and Bloomington/Normal are in pretty good shape. I-74 to the west out of Downtown Peoria is done well, also
Except the southbound section through Bloomington wasn't holding up near the southern I-74 interchange (https://goo.gl/maps/Lp1uNbHqTmF54V6DA), and has a decent maintenance project going on right now.
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 09, 2020, 10:24:22 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on July 09, 2020, 06:14:24 PM
The Concrete 6-laning jobs around Effingham, Mt Vernon, and Bloomington/Normal are in pretty good shape. I-74 to the west out of Downtown Peoria is done well, also
Except the southbound section through Bloomington wasn't holding up near the southern I-74 interchange (https://goo.gl/maps/Lp1uNbHqTmF54V6DA), and has a decent maintenance project going on right now.
It hasn't been that long since driving thru there for me, but I simply did not remember that section. Good clarification!
Quote from: vdeane on July 09, 2020, 10:06:46 PM
Quote from: Crown Victoria on July 09, 2020, 08:53:34 PM
Interstate 90/New York State Thruway through the Seneca Nation is bad enough, there's a Rough Road sign posted with an advisory speed of 45 mph:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5723138,-79.0828934,3a,75y,49.1h,90.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZuAcqJdE_GUUWP-CBPgFYw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
Fortunately, that one was just fixed (https://www.facebook.com/NYSThruway/photos/a.535068466608073/3006748872773341/?type=3&eid=ARCzZ31BhPskbW6FTM3ax91zvODqZ0pGTkwZxM3Ptt_rnyKsQvn2uWFklwORLi5aDYDxfxPkO_OUJac9&__tn__=EEHH-R).
Well it's about time! That stretch was awful!
Quote from: Brian556 on July 09, 2020, 09:45:23 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 09, 2020, 07:19:11 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 09, 2020, 04:02:17 PM
Yes, that is indeed a metal plate covering a hole in the bridge deck.
OkDOT got a bit of public shaming for using a disused warning sign to patch a hole in a bridge deck on I-40 in Del City.
I've worked on many bridge deck hole repairs. We would use a large piece of steel. Theoretically, you could remove the metal after the concrete dried, however, we never did.
I-39/US51 is being repaved as we speak!
Really, other than the OP, none of these look particularly terrible to me.
Until it was rebuilt this summer and last summer I-475 along the east-west segment (the northern 3 or 4 miles of the highway) in Mount Morris Township could have qualified but that section has been rebuilt now.
You can probably still go on Google Street view and see the old Highway.
Quote from: dcharlie on July 10, 2020, 07:43:29 AM
I-39/US51 is being repaved as we speak!
Really? D2 is finally laying some new asphalt near Rockford? Or even better if they are laying some new concrete...
Quote from: kphoger on July 10, 2020, 09:55:53 AM
Really, other than the OP, none of these look particularly terrible to me.
Michigan has many roads that are worse than the OP example, but not on interstates.
Quote from: webny99 on July 10, 2020, 12:34:14 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 10, 2020, 09:55:53 AM
Really, other than the OP, none of these look particularly terrible to me.
Michigan has many roads that are worse than the OP example, but not on interstates.
I could probably drive around for about 20 minutes and show some real bad roads around Saginaw. Genesee and Wayne Counties seem to be the worst at it though.
Some local Saginaw streets.
Mackinaw between Michigan and Congress/Malzahn.
Hess is probably the worst for its entire length. Especially bad on the one way stretch between Williamson and Sheridan.
S. Hamilton gets pretty rough south of Williams and Stephens (M-46's one way combo).
Just go on Google Street View and look at the locations I mentioned if you want to see some bad streets.
That Council Bluffs example is bad. That's probably worse than 99% of the roads in America period, even counting residential streets.
I can't think of any particularly terrible examples in Wisconsin, or anywhere for that matter.
Quote from: ilpt4u on July 10, 2020, 11:34:15 AM
Quote from: dcharlie on July 10, 2020, 07:43:29 AM
I-39/US51 is being repaved as we speak!
Really? D2 is finally laying some new asphalt near Rockford? Or even better if they are laying some new concrete...
Unfortunately pavement, but as long as there is something...
Quote from: dcharlie on July 10, 2020, 02:34:45 PM
Unfortunately pavement, but as long as there is something...
Did you mean to say 'asphalt'? What else would there be, other than pavement?
Quote from: kphoger on July 10, 2020, 02:44:01 PM
Quote from: dcharlie on July 10, 2020, 02:34:45 PM
Unfortunately pavement, but as long as there is something...
Did you mean to say 'asphalt'? What else would there be, other than pavement?
That segment? I could see IDiOT using gravel...
If it still counts there is about a 2 mile stretch of I-75 between MM 148 and 150 that's currently under construction but the roadway that's there now is in horrible shape. When you get to the top of the bridge over the tracks going northbound it's a rumble of potholes. Thank God MDOT is finally rebuilding that stretch of I-75 including the god awful M-46 interchange at exit 149.
I-40 in Arizona; several stretches between Flagstaff and Kingman. Worst I've had the misfortune to drive on since they re-did I-43 north of Beloit.
The last time I was on SB I-5 coming back from Oregon, the concrete pavement from the CA state line south to well past the inspection station was in horrible condition; like driving over a washboard. That's as bad as I've seen it in the state since the repaving of I-80 east of Colfax happened about 10 years back.
I-295 VA south of I-64 is starting to get rough. They recently added "Rough Road Next 12 miles" signs south of 64.
Back in 1998, I-70 through St. Louis was so bad we had to reduce speed to 45 to avoid shaking the Jeep apart.
The concrete on I-95 in South Carolina b/w US 17 north and the Edisto River is pretty terrible, and probably the worst in SC (not in a work zone) at the very least.
Also, nearly all of the bridges on I-77 in SC have extremely rough surfaces, especially in Chester and Lexington Counties. In general, I-77 gets very little love from both NCDOT and SCDOT. In NC, they decided to build HOT lanes for added capacity while I-85 gets additional free lanes, and the construction is about 8 months behind schedule, with daily fines, and there STILL doesn't seem to be any sense of urgency to finish it! And in SC, the pavement is adequate, despite the rough bridges, but nowhere along that roadway is there any sort of lighting. I drive the length of I-77 in SC in the dark an average of twice a week, and it's nerve wracking!
I'd imagine it would be someplace where it snows in winter.
Snoqualmie Pass on I-90 in Washington state. Chains are required in the winter so the pavement id bad the rest of the year.
Montana isn't afraid to chip seal their interstates.
Quote from: US 89 on July 12, 2020, 02:03:52 AM
Montana isn't afraid to chip seal their interstates.
Egads. NYSDOT uses chip seal in rural locations, but even then only waryingly, in my experience with their engineers.
Has I-20 through Shreveport, LA been fixed yet? Of all of the BRT cab video that I have watched, that was far and away the worst that I've seen him drive.
A special mention was from my 1994 roadtrip to the Denver, CO area - the concrete on I-270 then was rutted so deeply that it was breaking through in places (tires with tungsten carbide studs are legal year-round in Colorado).
Mike
Quote from: ilpt4u on July 10, 2020, 02:46:00 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 10, 2020, 02:44:01 PM
Quote from: dcharlie on July 10, 2020, 02:34:45 PM
Unfortunately pavement, but as long as there is something...
Did you mean to say 'asphalt'? What else would there be, other than pavement?
That segment? I could see IDiOT using gravel...
"IDOT is pioneering an innovative new traffic-slowing solution on a stretch of interstate in Winnebago County..."
Quote from: STLmapboy on July 13, 2020, 02:54:53 PM
"IDOT is pioneering an innovative new traffic-slowing solution on a stretch of interstate in Winnebago County..."
It would sound more palatable to call it a "new traffic-
calming solution".
Quote from: kphoger on July 13, 2020, 03:05:02 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on July 13, 2020, 02:54:53 PM
"IDOT is pioneering an innovative new traffic-slowing solution on a stretch of interstate in Winnebago County..."
It would sound more palatable to call it a "new traffic-calming solution".
Of course.
I-5 in Portland, OR. Awful pavement, lack of interstate standards...it just sucks!
Quote from: ilpt4u on July 10, 2020, 11:34:15 AM
Quote from: dcharlie on July 10, 2020, 07:43:29 AM
I-39/US51 is being repaved as we speak!
Really? D2 is finally laying some new asphalt near Rockford? Or even better if they are laying some new concrete...
Check out the most recent BigRigTravels video. Looks good (probably will fall apart in 5-10 years).
Quote from: MrManlet on July 15, 2020, 01:05:24 AM
Quote from: ilpt4u on July 10, 2020, 11:34:15 AM
Quote from: dcharlie on July 10, 2020, 07:43:29 AM
I-39/US51 is being repaved as we speak!
Really? D2 is finally laying some new asphalt near Rockford? Or even better if they are laying some new concrete...
Check out the most recent BigRigTravels video. Looks good (probably will fall apart in 5-10 years).
Na, I'll just have to plan a bootlegging run up to Beloit to get some more New Glarus Spotted Cow
Its a long trip from Carbondale, but its also quite tasty brew