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National Boards => General Highway Talk => Topic started by: SteveG1988 on July 16, 2020, 10:46:40 AM

Title: Central Florida Expressway offers a "Universal" toll tag, East coast only.
Post by: SteveG1988 on July 16, 2020, 10:46:40 AM
https://www.cfxway.com/uni/

They now offer one that works in the southeast USA and the EZPass region.
Title: Re: Central Florida Expressway offers a "Universal" toll tag, East coast only.
Post by: 1995hoo on July 16, 2020, 10:49:09 AM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on July 16, 2020, 10:46:40 AM
https://www.cfxway.com/uni/

They now offer one that works in the southeast USA and the EZPass region.

I looked into that. One thing to be aware of is that if you fall within the relatively narrow category of people who want an E-ZPass Flex, or North Carolina's equivalent device, for HO/T lane access in Virginia and North Carolina, the "Uni" transponder won't help you.

I find it mildly interesting that it seems like it's the non-E-ZPass agencies that are issuing compatible devices. No E-ZPass member seems to have issued a device that's compatible with any other system. I assume there's some technical reason having something to do with the Kapsch transponders used by E-ZPass members.
Title: Re: Central Florida Expressway offers a "Universal" toll tag, East coast only.
Post by: SteveG1988 on July 16, 2020, 10:56:03 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 16, 2020, 10:49:09 AM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on July 16, 2020, 10:46:40 AM
https://www.cfxway.com/uni/

They now offer one that works in the southeast USA and the EZPass region.

I looked into that. One thing to be aware of is that if you fall within the relatively narrow category of people who want an E-ZPass Flex, or North Carolina's equivalent device, for HO/T lane access in Virginia and North Carolina, the "Uni" transponder won't help you.

I find it mildly interesting that it seems like it's the non-E-ZPass agencies that are issuing compatible devices. No E-ZPass member seems to have issued a device that's compatible with any other system. I assume there's some technical reason having something to do with the Kapsch transponders used by E-ZPass members.

Probably related to the contracts that were signed decades ago for the E-ZPass to happen. I am switching over to UNI because i am moving down to FL in the fall, and this will make it a lot easier.
Title: Re: Central Florida Expressway offers a "Universal" toll tag, East coast only.
Post by: 1995hoo on July 16, 2020, 11:01:33 AM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on July 16, 2020, 10:56:03 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 16, 2020, 10:49:09 AM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on July 16, 2020, 10:46:40 AM
https://www.cfxway.com/uni/

They now offer one that works in the southeast USA and the EZPass region.

I looked into that. One thing to be aware of is that if you fall within the relatively narrow category of people who want an E-ZPass Flex, or North Carolina's equivalent device, for HO/T lane access in Virginia and North Carolina, the "Uni" transponder won't help you.

I find it mildly interesting that it seems like it's the non-E-ZPass agencies that are issuing compatible devices. No E-ZPass member seems to have issued a device that's compatible with any other system. I assume there's some technical reason having something to do with the Kapsch transponders used by E-ZPass members.

Probably related to the contracts that were signed decades ago for the E-ZPass to happen. I am switching over to UNI because i am moving down to FL in the fall, and this will make it a lot easier.

With the news that FTE facilities are supposed to start accepting E-ZPass later this year, I thought about cancelling our SunPass, but my wife said "why bother." Our current setup with two E-ZPass Flex devices and one SunPass Mini has worked well for the past ten years, so she has a valid point that there's not really much reason to change anything because it's not like we miss the relatively minor amount of money we have posted to the SunPass account. I suppose I may need to remove the E-ZPass when we drive in Florida just to be on the safe side, though.

A couple of years from now when I-66 inside the Beltway changes from HOV-2 to HOV-3 for the toll-free ride, I might consider returning the E-ZPass Flex and SunPass devices and getting Uni transponders instead, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's another new option by then.
Title: Re: Central Florida Expressway offers a "Universal" toll tag, East coast only.
Post by: vdeane on July 16, 2020, 12:48:43 PM
This isn't really different than NC QuickPass (aside from the lack of flex) or what E-ZPass itself will be once Georgia and the rest of Florida go interoperable.  E-ZPass and E-Pass were already interoperable both ways.  This is just fancy branding (the implication that it works all the way up the East Coast is incorrect, too - nothing is interoperable with Palmetto Pass).
Title: Re: Central Florida Expressway offers a "Universal" toll tag, East coast only.
Post by: Joe The Dragon on July 16, 2020, 12:53:28 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 16, 2020, 10:49:09 AM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on July 16, 2020, 10:46:40 AM
https://www.cfxway.com/uni/

They now offer one that works in the southeast USA and the EZPass region.

I looked into that. One thing to be aware of is that if you fall within the relatively narrow category of people who want an E-ZPass Flex, or North Carolina's equivalent device, for HO/T lane access in Virginia and North Carolina, the "Uni" transponder won't help you.

I find it mildly interesting that it seems like it's the non-E-ZPass agencies that are issuing compatible devices. No E-ZPass member seems to have issued a device that's compatible with any other system. I assume there's some technical reason having something to do with the Kapsch transponders used by E-ZPass members.
Do we need an law or do we need wait for some to hit with an $250 HOV ticket for an fix?
Title: Re: Central Florida Expressway offers a "Universal" toll tag, East coast only.
Post by: sprjus4 on July 16, 2020, 12:54:27 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 16, 2020, 12:48:43 PM
This isn't really different than NC QuickPass (aside from the lack of flex)
They offer an NC Quick Pass E-ZPass Flex transponder, though now with Georgia and Florida compatible with E-ZPass, isn't anything more expansive than a standard E-ZPass or E-ZPass Flex.
Title: Re: Central Florida Expressway offers a "Universal" toll tag, East coast only.
Post by: vdeane on July 16, 2020, 02:06:41 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on July 16, 2020, 12:54:27 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 16, 2020, 12:48:43 PM
This isn't really different than NC QuickPass (aside from the lack of flex)
They offer an NC Quick Pass E-ZPass Flex transponder, though now with Georgia and Florida compatible with E-ZPass, isn't anything more expansive than a standard E-ZPass or E-ZPass Flex.
Neither is Uni (from the standard E-ZPass), which was my point.
Title: Re: Central Florida Expressway offers a "Universal" toll tag, East coast only.
Post by: 1995hoo on July 16, 2020, 02:25:48 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 16, 2020, 12:48:43 PM
This isn't really different than NC QuickPass (aside from the lack of flex) or what E-ZPass itself will be once Georgia and the rest of Florida go interoperable.  E-ZPass and E-Pass were already interoperable both ways.  This is just fancy branding (the implication that it works all the way up the East Coast is incorrect, too - nothing is interoperable with Palmetto Pass).

There is one significant difference. QuickPass's terms and conditions say you must have one transponder per car, and they will not let you register additional license plate numbers to your account if you don't buy additional transponders. SunPass claims the Mini can't be transferred between cars, but they had no problem with my registering three of our four cars to my account even though I only have the one transponder (the '88 RX-7 will never be driven in Florida unless I give it to one of our relatives down there). The CFX page SteveG1988 linked said it's fine to transfer a Uni device between cars as long as they're of the same vehicle class, same as with E-ZPass.
Title: Re: Central Florida Expressway offers a "Universal" toll tag, East coast only.
Post by: Mdcastle on July 17, 2020, 08:28:59 AM
How does this work? Is this an EZPass only protocol and CFE can read EZPass with their readers, or does this contain both an EZPass and RFID elements?
Title: Re: Central Florida Expressway offers a "Universal" toll tag, East coast only.
Post by: Thing 342 on July 17, 2020, 09:21:20 AM
Quote from: Mdcastle on July 17, 2020, 08:28:59 AM
How does this work? Is this an EZPass only protocol and CFE can read EZPass with their readers, or does this contain both an EZPass and RFID elements?
I suspect that like my NC QuickPass FLEX, it likely contains both a battery-powered transponder (EZ-PASS / hard case) and a passive transponder (SunPass / sticker)
Title: Re: Central Florida Expressway offers a "Universal" toll tag, East coast only.
Post by: Mdcastle on July 17, 2020, 06:46:07 PM
So am I correct that Florida and North Carolina are 6B / Sego, and Georgia is 6C. Do North Carolina and Florida have readers that can pick up 6C and Georgia have readers that can pick up 6B, or is this all done by toll-by-plate linked to accounts? (Doesn't Florida have tri-mode readers, or just certain facilities in Florida?) Looking at Georgia's PeachPass site they're pretty adament you need to register your licence plate to use PeachPass in Florida so I wonder if it's toll by plate that direction at east.