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Title: Clinched States
Post by: JayhawkCO on August 12, 2020, 03:10:41 PM
I started thinking about this on the thread about which state roadgeeks know the least about, and I was thinking the answer might be at least somewhat tied to how clinchable a state might be.  So then I figured I'd see how many states had been declared clinched on the Travel Mapping site.  (By clinched, if you're unfamiliar with the site, that means all interstates, U.S. Highways, state highways, business routes, named freeways, and National Park/Monument roads.)  I know not everyone here uses that site to measure their travels, but I figured it would be a good start.  (For the sake of discussion, I'm just going to use the Active Systems from the site.)

States Completely Clinched By At Least One User
Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Hawai'i, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin

States Whose Highest Ranked Driver is Between 90%-100%
Alaska, Arkansas*, Arizona, California, Mississippi#, North Carolina

States Whose Highest Ranked Driver is Between 80%-90%
Alabama*, Louisiana*, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Utah

States Whose Highest Ranked Driver is Between 70%-80%
Maine, Nevada, Oregon, South Dakota

States Whose Highest Ranked Driver is Between 60%-70%
Idaho, Kansas, Missouri, Washington, Wyoming

States Whose Highest Ranked Driver is Between 50%-60%
Montana, North Dakota

States Whose Highest Ranked Driver is Between 40%-50%
Georgia, Kentucky, Nebraska, New Mexico, Tennessee, Texas

* Percentage drops a lot when including Preview Systems
# Mississippi does not have state routes added yet, so this percentage is likely far lower

So, going back to the topic of the other thread, if we exclude Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Texas which just have a ton of state highways everywhere, it looks like the maybe the best candidates for the question posed are Nebraska and New Mexico.

In case anyone wants it, here's the "leader board" pulled from Travel Mapping.


StateUser (Active)%User (Active & Preview)%
ALformulanone83.92formulanone67.13
AKoscar97.26oscar97.26
AZwalkabout4492.95walkabout4493
ARvaledc031s97.1valedc031s40.16
CAoscar99.61oscar96.71
COjayhawkco  :sombrero:100jayhawkco100
CTdrebbin37, duke 87100drebbin37, duke 87100
DEhtm_duke, oscar100htm_duke, oscar100
FLmefailenglish100mefailenglish100
GAhsford44.39hsford44.4
HIoscar100oscar100
IDUgnaught267.36Ugnaught267.36
ILmapcat100mapcat100
INmapcat100mapcat100
IAiowahighways, jeffin100iowahighways100
KSmapcat63.26mapcat63.22
KYvespertine48.91vespertine48.91
LAmapcat82.03rlee25.93
MEnezinscot75.32nezinscot75.32
MDoscar100oscar100
MAdeathtopumpkins, dougtorie, duke87, nezinscot100dougtorie, duke87, nezinscot100
MImapcat, vespertine100mapcat, vespertine100
MNterminal_moraine100terminal_moraine100
MSrlee99.74rlee99.74
MOvespertine63.74vespertine63.33
MTjulmac54.3julmac54.3
NEmapcat49.49mapcat49.48
NVoscar72.36oscar72.36
NHdrebbin37100drebbin37100
NJcharliezeb, duke87100charliezeb, duke87100
NMjustjake48.7justjake48.5
NYcl94, dougtone100cl94100
NCmapmikey91.63mapmikey91.63
NDkramer50.11kramer50.11
OHmapcat, vespertine100mapcat, vespertine100
OKokroads87.6okroads86.91
ORmojavenc75.26mojavenc75.25
PAjustjake80.51justjake80.51
RIdrebbin37, duke 87100drebbin37, duke 87100
SCmapmikey84.38mapmikey84.38
SDthe_spui_ninja74.83the_spui_ninja74.83
TNmapcat47.19mapcat47.19
TXoscar49.55oscar49.55
UTroadguy280.43roadguy280.43
VTdougtone100dougtone100
VAhtm_duke100htm_duke100
WAjulmac61.75julmac61.21
WVBitmapped, hbelkins100Bitmapped, hbelkins100
Wimaster_son, vespertine100master_son, vespertine99.9
WYthe_spui_ninja63.17the_spui_ninja63.17

Chris
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: Gnutella on August 12, 2020, 07:18:55 PM
I've clinched every Interstate in Georgia and Florida so far.

I'm also very close to clinching every Interstate in South Carolina, Alabama and Mississippi. In South Carolina, I only need a segment of I-526. In Alabama, I only need I-565. In Mississippi, I only need I-269 and a segment of I-22. These are the three easiest states for me to complete.

I'm getting close in Tennessee and West Virginia as well. In Tennessee, I need I-269, I-275 and I-440, and segments of I-240 and I-640. In West Virginia, I need I-81, and segments of I-70 and I-77.

Kentucky and Missouri are also doable, albeit with some effort. In Kentucky, I need I-69, I-165, I-264 and I-265. In Missouri, I need I-49 and I-155, and most of I-44.

As for the Interstates themselves, I've clinched I-4, I-12, I-16, I-24, I-26, I-45, I-55, I-59, I-65, I-76 (east), I-85, I-97 and I-99. I've also clinched the Pennsylvania Turnpike and Florida's Turnpike.

The following are Interstate segments that I still need:


I-10 from Phoenix to San Antonio; and Houston to Baton Rouge
I-20 from I-10 to Fort Worth; and Dallas to Monroe, LA
I-22 from Memphis to Tupelo, MS
I-29 from Council Bluffs, IA to the Canadian border
I-35 from the Mexican border to San Antonio; Oklahoma City to Kansas City; and Minneapolis/St. Paul to Duluth, MN
I-40 from Needles, CA to Little Rock, AR
I-68 from Accident, MD to Hancock, MD
I-70 from I-15 to Topeka, KS; Indianapolis to Cambridge, OH; and the Pennsylvania Turnpike to Baltimore
I-71 from Cincinnati to Cleveland
I-75 from Cincinnati to the Canadian border
I-77 from Charleston, WV to Canton, OH; and Akron, OH to Cleveland
I-79 from I-80 to Erie, PA
I-81 from Lexington, VA to the Canadian border
I-95 from the Pennsylvania Turnpike to the Canadian border


:clap:
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: M3100 on August 12, 2020, 08:03:22 PM
I've got a long way to catch up to any of these, but I'll keep plugging away...
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on August 12, 2020, 08:39:43 PM
I've been steadily increasing my coverage of Minnesota toward 70%, planning on adding some more mileage up in Koochiching County early next week as I aim to eliminate mileage the furthest away from me.

As for Interstate clinches I have full clinches of MN, WI, and randomly Colorado. For Maine I'm missing the unsigned 495.
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on August 12, 2020, 08:42:52 PM
I'm up to 82% in Indiana.  Probably going to be a few years before I can get close to 100 though.
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: Max Rockatansky on August 12, 2020, 10:39:35 PM
I was at about 98% for Arizona until they started building new freeways. 
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: Rothman on August 12, 2020, 10:59:08 PM
I only keep track of Interstate clinching on that site.  *shrug*
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: JayhawkCO on August 13, 2020, 12:15:59 AM
Quote from: Rothman on August 12, 2020, 10:59:08 PM
I only keep track of Interstate clinching on that site.  *shrug*

I used to also, but then I had driven so many Colorado state highways going on camping trips and such that I started tracking those, and then I figured I might as well track the U.S. Highways here, but then I might as well do the U.S. Highways across the country, and then I might as well do all of the U.S. roads that I knew, and then since I've been to a lot of foreign countries, I might as well track those too..........

Chris
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: JayhawkCO on August 13, 2020, 12:22:14 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on August 12, 2020, 08:39:43 PM
I've been steadily increasing my coverage of Minnesota toward 70%, planning on adding some more mileage up in Koochiching County early next week as I aim to eliminate mileage the furthest away from me.

As for Interstate clinches I have full clinches of MN, WI, and randomly Colorado. For Maine I'm missing the unsigned 495.

I'll be over 75% soon in Colorado as I have a couple of trips planned.  My interstate clinches are WA, ID, WY, UT, CO, NM, KS, MO, NE, SD, MN, and DC.  I had NV clinched and then they made I-11.

Chris
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on August 13, 2020, 07:37:27 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on August 12, 2020, 08:39:43 PM
I've been steadily increasing my coverage of Minnesota toward 70%, planning on adding some more mileage up in Koochiching County early next week as I aim to eliminate mileage the furthest away from me.

As for Interstate clinches I have full clinches of MN, WI, and randomly Colorado. For Maine I'm missing the unsigned 495.

I also have all interstates in Colorado in addition to my home state. Got the last chunk of 76 that I was missing last week when there on vacation. Missing 1.2 miles in Wisconsin. Have all of DC as well but that isn't hard.
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: ftballfan on August 13, 2020, 09:16:39 AM
For Interstate clinches, I'm closest to Michigan, but I'm still missing:
I-69 east of I-475 in Flint
I-75 between the western M-55 junction and M-32 (except for a short section near Grayling)
I-94 east of M-59
I have all the 3dis in Michigan clinched.
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: Eth on August 13, 2020, 10:01:39 AM
I've clinched all the Interstates in Georgia, but am still below the one-third mark on all other systems.

I have all of the numbered routes in DC clinched (though not the National Park routes, which I don't think TM tracked yet when I lived in the area).

I'm about one mile shy of having Maryland's Interstate system clinched, missing the little piece of I-70 between I-68 and the Pennsylvania border.
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: hbelkins on August 13, 2020, 04:40:27 PM
I don't use that site (and won't until it becomes more user-friendly, as I've stated often) but I have driven every mile of West Virginia's state primary system (including unsigned routes such as Alt. WV 3 in Whitesville), to go along with clinches of the US and Interstate systems in that state.

In Kentucky, I have clinched all Interstate, US, and parkway routes, and I've clinched all the one- and two-digit state routes. I'd never attempt to clinch every state highway in Kentucky.

In other states, I've clinched all interstates in Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, and Virginia. I had Tennessee clinched until I-269 was signed.
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: jeffandnicole on August 13, 2020, 04:46:14 PM
I think Delaware is vastly underreported in the leaderboard!
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: Jim on August 13, 2020, 06:53:35 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 13, 2020, 04:46:14 PM
I think Delaware is vastly underreported in the leaderboard!

Are there more users who should be listed with 100%?
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: STLmapboy on August 13, 2020, 10:59:32 PM
Missouri is surprisingly unclinchable
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: webny99 on August 13, 2020, 11:34:06 PM
I have a headache just thinking about clinching an entire state's route network. Seems like it would be incredibly technical and time-consuming work.
I like to travel for fun, thank you very much.
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: JayhawkCO on August 13, 2020, 11:55:03 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on August 13, 2020, 04:40:27 PM
I don't use that site (and won't until it becomes more user-friendly, as I've stated often) but I have driven every mile of West Virginia's state primary system (including unsigned routes such as Alt. WV 3 in Whitesville), to go along with clinches of the US and Interstate systems in that state.

I figured there were users here that had clinched states that hadn't logged it on Travel Mapping. For instance, I know I've looked at a website of someone that's done all the Wyoming state routes (and therefore I assume U.S. Highways and Interstates as well, if for no other reason that to reach said state highways).  Congrats on nailing WV!

EDIT: I added you to the list above.

Chris
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: JayhawkCO on August 13, 2020, 11:57:39 PM
Quote from: webny99 on August 13, 2020, 11:34:06 PM
I have a headache just thinking about clinching an entire state's route network. Seems like it would be incredibly technical and time-consuming work.
I like to travel for fun, thank you very much.

I'm not going to lie. Trying to knock out all of eastern Colorado is not going to be "exciting".  That said, I don't often get time to listen to a nice Audible book, and I find driving relaxing.  When I'm with my wife, I'll drag her on the more exciting mountain routes here.  If I have a day off where she has something going on, I cater to my checklist brain.  Part of the reason I'm going to try to clinch Colorado is because Colorado's roads are more fun than your average state.  I think if I still lived in Kansas where I lived for 15 years, I wouldn't have nearly the same desire to cross off all the state highways.  Counties?  Probably.  Every little 1.4 mile state route?  No.
Chris
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: Mapmikey on August 14, 2020, 08:41:33 AM
Quote from: Jim on August 13, 2020, 06:53:35 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 13, 2020, 04:46:14 PM
I think Delaware is vastly underreported in the leaderboard!

Are there more users who should be listed with 100%?

Soon as I have a reason to go to the Wilmington/Phila/NJ region I will return to having 100% Delaware, which I first reached in 2014.  Need to drive the new US 301 toll road.

I had Virginia at 100% in 2010.  There are 2 reroutes in southwestern Virginia since then that I have elected to not take a 12+ hour round trip to go get 3 miles.  Waiting on KY to finish its US 460 reroute alignment, where VA 80 will likely move again.  Don't know that Virginia will get its US 460 reroute finished before I (may) move away from Virginia when I retire.

While the TM listings is a way to use data to answer the premise of the OP, it leaves out primary routes that are unsigned or signed in certain ways.  So anyone with 100% in Maryland is really missing a huge number of primary routes (I'm guessing NOBODY has ever clinched Maryland as it is pretty difficult to find all of their ever-changing list in the field, much less drive all these little routes, some of which you have to walk).  The set of Virginia primaries not in TM is fairly short but not all are fully open to the general public (state house, corrections facilities) or consists of a bunch of minor roads on a state facility.

North Carolina changes/adds things faster than I can get to them, so even if I somehow ever get to 100% there it won't last long.

Given the travel limitations the pandemic has caused, I will probably reach 100% in TM for DC and MD within the next 12 months

Other places I have a reasonable chance of getting 100% of primary routes - SC, WV, NJ
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on August 14, 2020, 08:49:37 AM
Quote from: webny99 on August 13, 2020, 11:34:06 PM
I have a headache just thinking about clinching an entire state's route network. Seems like it would be incredibly technical and time-consuming work.
I like to travel for fun, thank you very much.

NY has a pretty dense highway network, adding up to over 15,000 miles. I don't know if I'd be trying it if I lived there.  I do find my clinching trips to be fun. My travels t for work and to visit family take me on roads I've driven hundreds of times, so my clinching trips are a way to see different pavement.
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: formulanone on August 14, 2020, 10:41:38 AM
Alabama has been easier for be since I'm preferring to drive for work right now. Living near the northern reaches makes the task a little more tricky, but I'm usually in the coastal areas at some point at least once a year. But I've only seriously tried for the past 6-7 years, so I'm not an expert on the history or can remember every random route numbers' endpoints.

I'm at 75% in Florida and still want to attempt 100%, since it's been a work of mine for the past 30 years. FDOT does keep adding and truncating routes, so perfection is a moving target.

After that, I just collect the routes as I can and wish.

Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: Flint1979 on August 14, 2020, 02:29:22 PM
I've clinched the Interstates in Michigan but not US highways or state highways. I've clinched every county in Michigan as well.
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: oscar on August 14, 2020, 03:07:34 PM
Quote from: webny99 on August 13, 2020, 11:34:06 PM
I have a headache just thinking about clinching an entire state's route network. Seems like it would be incredibly technical and time-consuming work.
I like to travel for fun, thank you very much.

I clinched all of Hawaii's state and numbered county routes in my three-and-a-half-week first visit to the state in 1999 (some routes were added or realigned since then, and I covered those on later visits). That meant stops on all six of the major islands with state highways, none of which have any surface connections (the short-lived Hawaii Superferry was born, and died, after my first visit) so I had to rent a car at each island's main airport. Got in all the beach time I wanted, too.

It's all a matter of priorities.
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: Scott5114 on August 14, 2020, 07:12:06 PM
Quote from: webny99 on August 13, 2020, 11:34:06 PM
I have a headache just thinking about clinching an entire state's route network. Seems like it would be incredibly technical and time-consuming work.
I like to travel for fun, thank you very much.

Well, that's the thing, is that you don't do it all in one sitting, obviously.  Most people get the idea to do it after they've been in a state for a number of years and/or have a good chunk of it clinched through more natural means. Then it's a matter of "Oh, I should go clinch Route 6, I have most of it done except for this section." "Hey, if I clinch Route 7, I'll have all of Frazier County done." "Route 8 is the closest route to me that I haven't clinched. Maybe I should go check it out?" and eventually you just get it all done.
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: hbelkins on August 14, 2020, 07:35:21 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on August 14, 2020, 08:41:33 AM
I had Virginia at 100% in 2010.  There are 2 reroutes in southwestern Virginia since then that I have elected to not take a 12+ hour round trip to go get 3 miles. 

What are they?
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: froggie on August 14, 2020, 10:03:52 PM
^ Based on his TM lists, I would guess the 460 relocation in Grundy is one of them.
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: ozarkman417 on August 14, 2020, 10:18:08 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 13, 2020, 10:59:32 PM
Missouri is surprisingly unclinchable
It most certainly would be if the lettered system was included in TM, but it isn't. If it was counted, I would probably have <5% of MO clinched as opposed to my current 16%. That number will increase, as I have several data errors and recent travels to account for. Should you decide to look at the map of my travels, you will notice that I am very much lacking in coverage of northern Missouri.
There would be lots of duplicate routes, as well. I suppose they would be named like this:

MOs<Letter>_<first 3-4 letters of county name> Example: MOsD_Sha (Shannon County). It is already like this for waypoints/exits for routes.
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on August 14, 2020, 10:23:14 PM
Quote from: ozarkman417 on August 14, 2020, 10:18:08 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 13, 2020, 10:59:32 PM
Missouri is surprisingly unclinchable
It most certainly would be if the lettered system was included in TM, but it isn't. If it was counted, I would probably have <5% of MO clinched as opposed to my current 16%. That number will increase, as I have several data errors and recent travels to account for. 

Kentucky is unclinchable. If you have a driveway more than 1/4 mile long, it's signed as a state highway.
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on August 14, 2020, 11:13:48 PM
Quote from: webny99 on August 13, 2020, 11:34:06 PM
I have a headache just thinking about clinching an entire state's route network. Seems like it would be incredibly technical and time-consuming work.
I like to travel for fun, thank you very much.

Working on "clinching" Ohio highways has kept me sane since the COVID crisis hit.
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: Ketchup99 on August 14, 2020, 11:21:57 PM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on August 14, 2020, 11:13:48 PM
Quote from: webny99 on August 13, 2020, 11:34:06 PM
I have a headache just thinking about clinching an entire state's route network. Seems like it would be incredibly technical and time-consuming work.
I like to travel for fun, thank you very much.

Working on "clinching" Ohio highways has kept me sane since the COVID crisis hit.
That's the one thing that might just drive me further out of my mind than I already am, but whatever keeps you going :)
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: Bickendan on August 15, 2020, 06:20:17 AM
Work is sadly keeping me from chipping at my 100% goal for Oregon.
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: Mapmikey on August 15, 2020, 09:17:47 AM
Quote from: froggie on August 14, 2020, 10:03:52 PM
^ Based on his TM lists, I would guess the 460 relocation in Grundy is one of them.


Not the relocation but the new bypass of what remains of the older commercial strip (signed as US 460 Bus) south of Grundy (includes a missing bit of VA 83 as well).

Also missing VA 83 where they punched through a straight piece eliminating a horseshoe curve a little west of US 460

Also missing VA 80 where it was relocated near the KY line in anticipation of connecting it to new US 460

May also be missing the US 58 ALT bypass of Dryden and will drive it next time I'm out there to be sure.
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: Rothman on August 15, 2020, 11:21:20 AM
Quote from: cabiness42 on August 14, 2020, 10:23:14 PM
Quote from: ozarkman417 on August 14, 2020, 10:18:08 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 13, 2020, 10:59:32 PM
Missouri is surprisingly unclinchable
It most certainly would be if the lettered system was included in TM, but it isn't. If it was counted, I would probably have <5% of MO clinched as opposed to my current 16%. That number will increase, as I have several data errors and recent travels to account for. 

Kentucky is unclinchable. If you have a driveway more than 1/4 mile long, it's signed as a state highway.
I do wonder where the southern end of KY 306 really is.  You just head through Wheelwright and the road just gets narrower and narrower...
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: hbelkins on August 15, 2020, 12:55:35 PM
Quote from: Rothman on August 15, 2020, 11:21:20 AM
Quote from: cabiness42 on August 14, 2020, 10:23:14 PM
Quote from: ozarkman417 on August 14, 2020, 10:18:08 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 13, 2020, 10:59:32 PM
Missouri is surprisingly unclinchable
It most certainly would be if the lettered system was included in TM, but it isn't. If it was counted, I would probably have <5% of MO clinched as opposed to my current 16%. That number will increase, as I have several data errors and recent travels to account for. 

Kentucky is unclinchable. If you have a driveway more than 1/4 mile long, it's signed as a state highway.
I do wonder where the southern end of KY 306 really is.  You just head through Wheelwright and the road just gets narrower and narrower...

https://maps.kytc.ky.gov/photologviewer/

There's an "End State Maintenance" sign posted. It's at the intersection with Branham Hollow Road.
Title: Re: Clinched States
Post by: JayhawkCO on August 21, 2020, 01:09:18 AM
Updated above as I figured if any of this forum's members end up either newly on top of the "leader board" or increase their mileage percentage as I did today, I could keep track of them here.

Chris