In your state, without leaving interstates, U.S. highways, or state highways, what is the longest amount of time (not distance) you can drive and not leave your state while going the fastest way?
I'll submit the following for Colorado:
From CO41 on the Utah border to CO23 at the Nebraska border is 610 miles but according to Google Maps (and obviously the time will vary depending on time of day) it takes 10 hours and 11 minutes to get there.
I started thinking about this when I started my clinched states thread as some of the states that have lots of highways are still easier to clinch because you can get to them so more quickly. If I wanted to clinch CO 41 (which I do), I'd have to drive 7 hours and 38 minutes to do so the quickest way, not exactly a day trip.
Curious as to others' states.
Chris
Michigan:
US-2 at the Wisconsin line (Ironwood) to I-75 at the Ohio line is 647 miles (10 hr 4 min) using US-2, M-69, US-2, I-75, US-23, I-96, I-275, and I-75. It is less than a half hour quicker to go over the Mackinac Bridge than going via the Chicago area.
US-41 at its beginning near Copper Harbor to I-75 at the Ohio line is 643 miles (10 hr 18 min) using US-41, M-28, M-77, US-2, I-75, US-23, I-96, I-275, and I-75.
For AL, the best I could find was 6 hours 26 minutes from AL 79 near Hytop in the NE corner of the state to the end of AL 193 on Dauphin Island at the entrance to Mobile Bay in the SW corner of the state.
Minnesota: 9 hours from Noyes (NW corner) to the border at New Albin, IA in the SE corner. This assumes you use US 75 and not cross in ND to use I-29.
The best I could do on a quick search in Kansas was 8 hours 22 minutes, from the NW corner (K-27 @ Nebraska) to the SE corner (US-400 @ Missouri).
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on August 12, 2020, 03:56:54 PM
This assumes you use US 75 and not cross in ND to use I-29.
When I was searching, I discounted a route if Google's fastest way involved a state line.
I once drove from Boise to the BC border at Eastport all within the state, 485 mi, 9 hours. You could certainly extend that farther, for example from Hagerman instead of Boise it's 586 mi, 10h30m. Go much farther east (eg. Twin Falls) and Google will put I-15 and I-90 through Montana as the first choice though (despite being longer mileage).
Well theoretically you could drive forever while staying within a state, but assuming you need to be taking the fastest route between two endpoints, Superior to the IL border at WI-32 is 6 hours 33 minutes per Google Maps, via US-53 and I-94.
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 12, 2020, 03:30:25 PM
In your state, without leaving interstates, U.S. highways, or state highways, what is the longest amount of time (not distance) you can drive and not leave your state while going the fastest way?
Quote from: thspfc on August 12, 2020, 04:07:48 PM
assuming you need to be taking the fastest route between two endpoints
That would be a good assumption to make.
From the south end of IN 69 to the east end of IN 120 takes 6 hours and 1 minute.
Mine for me is 2:51, 158 miles to Mt Washington MA at the NY border. Provincetown is a damn close second (2:43, 143 miles).
Curiously, the best one I could find in Georgia has neither endpoint at a state line.
From the end of GA 40 in St. Marys (which is at the St. Johns River, yes, but the road doesn't cross it into Florida) to a point on GA 189 just northeast of Trenton is 469 miles and 7 hours, 2 minutes as of the time of this post. Any attempts to find anything farther resulted in a route that passed through Tennessee.
North Carolina:
From the ferry docks in Hatteras to US64/74 at the Tennessee border is 628 miles, 10 hours 18 minutes. This uses four highways: NC 12, US 64, I-40 and US 74.
13h 26m / 856 miles for a road at the northwest corner of Florida to the Southernmost point in Key West.
Also, many speed traps.
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(Please excuse all my candy buttons.)
Illinois: 8 hours or so. Near Cave-in-Rock and Elizabethtown to East Dubuque, without traveling thru Iowa
Had to force Google Maps to take an all Illinois routing
Virginia:
US-13 at the Virginia / Maryland state line on the Eastern Shore to US-58 at the Virginia / Tennessee state line near Cumberland Gap.
US-13 South -> I-64 West (Norfolk) -> I-295 North (Richmond) -> I-64 West (Richmond) -> I-81 South (Staunton) -> US-58 West (Bristol)
9 hours, 48 minutes
603 miles
415 miles on interstate highway
188 miles on arterial highway
Ohio: Just over 5 hours in several ways using only US routes and interstates:
* Conneaut to either the Brent Spence Bridge in Cincinnati, or Portsmouth
* US-20 / Ohio Turnpike to either Portsmouth or US-33 at Ravenswood, WV
From the northwestern tip of Louisiana near Rodessa, to the southeastern tip in Venice. 7hr5min
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/33.018813,-94.042596/29.231504,-89.3901058/@31.097979,-93.0713942,7.46z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!3m4!1m2!1d-90.0523052!2d29.9123107!3s0x8620a6ec3af1a28f:0x9793701f18e51b46!1m0!3e0?hl=en
Not my home state, but an extreme example would be from Homer AK to Prudhoe Bay AK - a journey of 1073 miles which would take 21 hours and 58 minutes according to Google.
Now if the Fritzway running out to Attu Station becomes a reality, it would be even more impressive. :poke:
Just shy of 17 hours at 1,012 miles for California:
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Araz+Junction,+CA/Smith+River+Agricultural+Inspection+Station,+Smith+River,+CA+95567/@37.4883997,-123.8424432,6z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x80d6f755f28e3037:0x9bd2f64e66429cd6!2m2!1d-114.71361!2d32.74722!1m5!1m1!1s0x54d00ac96207ba3d:0x8b0adfc5205bc1c3!2m2!1d-124.2082044!2d41.9938407!3e0?hl=en
For Utah, it takes about 9 hours to get from the Arizona line on US 163 in Monument Valley to a point on SR 30 near Lucin in the northwest part of the state.
In Missouri: from Watson (in the NW corner, near Rock Port and the Iowa border) to Holland (in the Bootheel near the Arkansas border), it comes in at almost 8-and-a-half hours and 562 miles.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Watson/Holland,+MO/@40.5722279,-95.0504637,8z/data=!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x8795026ae15dd695:0xbb1e56da507a424b!2m2!1d-95.6205448!2d40.4769464!1m5!1m1!1s0x8878afb7f6579c55:0x91958ef99d8b22dc!2m2!1d-89.870919!2d36.0559041
Not that I want to start a thread about it necessarily, but almost all of these obviously are one rural corner to another. I wonder which state has the longest intrastate "commute" between the largest city and another area in the state. (Obviously Alaska, Texas, and California jump to mind, but I wonder if Denver to extreme SW Colorado might be right behind them.)
Chris
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 13, 2020, 12:27:56 AM
Not that I want to start a thread about it necessarily, but almost all of these obviously are one rural corner to another. I wonder which state has the longest intrastate "commute" between the largest city and another area in the state. (Obviously Alaska, Texas, and California jump to mind, but I wonder if Denver to extreme SW Colorado might be right behind them.)
Chris
NYC to Buffalo (or other points in western New York) comes to mind right away. Or, in Pennsylvania, Philly to Erie.
From Russell Bridge on SC 28 at pretty much the northwestern border of SC, where it runs into GA, to Lowes Foods in Little River on the NC line, it is 326 miles and 5:38.
https://goo.gl/maps/pQ3jwCp2pyDCS9a39
From the Chattooga River Trail to the same point, it is 5:35 and 333 miles.
https://goo.gl/maps/pQ3jwCp2pyDCS9a39
The third shortest route from Anna Lynne, KY (Fulton County) to Woodman, KY (Pike County) takes 8 hours and 34 minutes, and is 511 miles.
Quote from: ftballfan on August 12, 2020, 03:42:35 PM
Michigan:
US-2 at the Wisconsin line (Ironwood) to I-75 at the Ohio line is 647 miles (10 hr 4 min) using US-2, M-69, US-2, I-75, US-23, I-96, I-275, and I-75. It is less than a half hour quicker to go over the Mackinac Bridge than going via the Chicago area.
US-41 at its beginning near Copper Harbor to I-75 at the Ohio line is 643 miles (10 hr 18 min) using US-41, M-28, M-77, US-2, I-75, US-23, I-96, I-275, and I-75.
Just a hunch, but I'd think that having the end in SW Michigan rather than SE Michigan would garner longer "quickest times", because it's not all interstate driving.
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 12, 2020, 03:30:25 PM
In your state, without leaving interstates, U.S. highways, or state highways, what is the longest amount of time (not distance) you can drive and not leave your state while going the fastest way?
If literally sticking to this (and assuming "state" = subnational division like I always do) then my answer is null, because I don't have Interstates, U.S. highways or state highways to begin with :sombrero:.
Using national freeways ("Interstates"), national highways ("U.S. highways") and regional roads ("state highways"), for Aragon, Spain I can submit a 479 km (297 miles) route from the A-139 dead end to A-1514 at the Valencian Community line.
Quote from: dlsterner on August 12, 2020, 11:13:04 PM
Not my home state, but an extreme example would be from Homer AK to Prudhoe Bay AK - a journey of 1073 miles which would take 21 hours and 58 minutes according to Google.
Now if the Fritzway running out to Attu Station becomes a reality, it would be even more impressive. :poke:
Well, one can go from where the Chinese G7 Beijing-Xinjiang expressway (known by me as "Middle of Nowhere expressway) enters Inner Mongolia from Gansu West of Ejina banner all the way to Shiwei town at the Russian border. 3544 km (2202 miles), 40 hours, all in just one Chinese
province autonomous region, Inner Mongolia.
Maryland:
US 219 at the WV/MD line southwest of Oakland, to US 13 at the VA/MD line south of Pocomoke City.
5 hours 40 minutes & 347 miles via US 219, I-68, I-70, US 29, MD 100, I-97, US 50, US 13.
Quote from: JCinSummerfield on August 13, 2020, 02:12:45 PM
Quote from: ftballfan on August 12, 2020, 03:42:35 PM
Michigan:
US-2 at the Wisconsin line (Ironwood) to I-75 at the Ohio line is 647 miles (10 hr 4 min) using US-2, M-69, US-2, I-75, US-23, I-96, I-275, and I-75. It is less than a half hour quicker to go over the Mackinac Bridge than going via the Chicago area.
US-41 at its beginning near Copper Harbor to I-75 at the Ohio line is 643 miles (10 hr 18 min) using US-41, M-28, M-77, US-2, I-75, US-23, I-96, I-275, and I-75.
Just a hunch, but I'd think that having the end in SW Michigan rather than SE Michigan would garner longer "quickest times", because it's not all interstate driving.
But the quickest way to SW Mich goes through Chicago; it doesn't stay in the state.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 12, 2020, 11:51:03 PM
Just shy of 17 hours at 1,012 miles for California:
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Araz+Junction,+CA/Smith+River+Agricultural+Inspection+Station,+Smith+River,+CA+95567/@37.4883997,-123.8424432,6z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x80d6f755f28e3037:0x9bd2f64e66429cd6!2m2!1d-114.71361!2d32.74722!1m5!1m1!1s0x54d00ac96207ba3d:0x8b0adfc5205bc1c3!2m2!1d-124.2082044!2d41.9938407!3e0?hl=en
You can do a just a little better on both time and distance by having the north endpoint on US199, just before Google switches over to routing you through Oregon.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Araz+Junction,+CA/41.8728004,-123.8454129/@41.8412882,-123.642747,9z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!1m1!1s0x80d6f755f28e3037:0x9bd2f64e66429cd6!2m2!1d-114.71361!2d32.74722!1m0!3e0?hl=en
Quote from: JCinSummerfield on August 13, 2020, 02:12:45 PM
Quote from: ftballfan on August 12, 2020, 03:42:35 PM
Michigan:
US-2 at the Wisconsin line (Ironwood) to I-75 at the Ohio line is 647 miles (10 hr 4 min) using US-2, M-69, US-2, I-75, US-23, I-96, I-275, and I-75. It is less than a half hour quicker to go over the Mackinac Bridge than going via the Chicago area.
US-41 at its beginning near Copper Harbor to I-75 at the Ohio line is 643 miles (10 hr 18 min) using US-41, M-28, M-77, US-2, I-75, US-23, I-96, I-275, and I-75.
Just a hunch, but I'd think that having the end in SW Michigan rather than SE Michigan would garner longer "quickest times", because it's not all interstate driving.
Correct. It's a little bit longer to go to SW Mich. So Michigan's answer is Copper Harbor to New Buffalo at nearly 11 hours. I'd guess that only a handful of states can beat that.
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 13, 2020, 12:27:56 AM
Not that I want to start a thread about it necessarily, but almost all of these obviously are one rural corner to another. I wonder which state has the longest intrastate "commute" between the largest city and another area in the state. (Obviously Alaska, Texas, and California jump to mind, but I wonder if Denver to extreme SW Colorado might be right behind them.)
Chris
This is similar to my previous Louisiana answer. New Orleans to Shreveport: 4hr55min
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Shreveport,+LA/New+Orleans,+LA/@31.273137,-92.787303,7.75z/data=!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x86312a8d1798e91f:0x2ebd2c1687a49cdd!2m2!1d-93.7501789!2d32.5251516!1m5!1m1!1s0x8620a454b2118265:0xdb065be85e22d3b4!2m2!1d-90.0715323!2d29.9510658!3e0?hl=en
Quote from: Ga293 on August 13, 2020, 05:28:15 PM
For Georgia, it's roughly 470 miles and 7 hours from a point on State Route 189 north of Cloudland Canyon State Park to downtown St. Mary's. Starting any further northwest and Google routes you through Chattanooga.
Quote from: Eth on August 12, 2020, 04:43:39 PM
Curiously, the best one I could find in Georgia has neither endpoint at a state line.
From the end of GA 40 in St. Marys (which is at the St. Johns River, yes, but the road doesn't cross it into Florida) to a point on GA 189 just northeast of Trenton is 469 miles and 7 hours, 2 minutes as of the time of this post. Any attempts to find anything farther resulted in a route that passed through Tennessee.
See, the beauty of the route is that you can start at point A and go to point B, or you can flip it and go from B to A! It works both ways! :bigass:
Quote from: Sctvhound on August 13, 2020, 01:08:05 AM
From Russell Bridge on SC 28 at pretty much the northwestern border of SC, where it runs into GA, to Lowes Foods in Little River on the NC line, it is 326 miles and 5:38.
https://goo.gl/maps/pQ3jwCp2pyDCS9a39
From the Chattooga River Trail to the same point, it is 5:35 and 333 miles.
https://goo.gl/maps/pQ3jwCp2pyDCS9a39
For some reason I had thought that Hilton Head would have been further away, but the Publix located at US 278 and Business US 278 is 316 miles/5 hrs 17 mins from Russell Bridge.
https://goo.gl/maps/bdzYFonvE9cR233j8
And to Fripp Island (where I will be next week incidentally) it's 314 miles/5 hrs 32 mins.
https://goo.gl/maps/qpdtEXzKYJ6JHFNZ7
For PA, enter on US 20 from Ohio, and exit on US 1, crossing the Delaware River from Morrisville. 6 hr 41 mins, 434 mi
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.9443476,-80.5181294/40.207674,-74.7704746/@41.0894173,-76.5422512,8z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0?hl=en
I also considered a route entering from West Virginia on PA 18 and exiting on US 209 at Matamoras. 6 hr 22 min, 407 mi
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/39.7224665,-80.4308379/41.3707649,-74.698233/@40.2967129,-79.4918779,10.54z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!3m4!1m2!1d-80.1884426!2d39.8969665!3s0x8835a201e9ea6167:0x1135fcaeee90ef3c!1m0!3e0
California:
From US 199 a couple of miles north of Panther Flat Campground to the Araz Junction on I-8
1013 miles, 16 hours 38 minutes.
For West Virginia, it would be entering from KY on WV 49 at Delorme (Mingo County) to entering Virginia on US 340 in Jefferson County south of Charles Town. 8 hours 4 minutes for 418 miles.
Link: https://goo.gl/maps/Lnsa4JjDjCfhwR529
The routing is somewhat indirect to stay entirely in WV. Google Maps' suggested routing takes I-81 up the Shenandoah Valley and is 2 hours and 68 miles shorter.
Quote from: GaryA on August 13, 2020, 04:21:24 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 12, 2020, 11:51:03 PM
Just shy of 17 hours at 1,012 miles for California:
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Araz+Junction,+CA/Smith+River+Agricultural+Inspection+Station,+Smith+River,+CA+95567/@37.4883997,-123.8424432,6z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x80d6f755f28e3037:0x9bd2f64e66429cd6!2m2!1d-114.71361!2d32.74722!1m5!1m1!1s0x54d00ac96207ba3d:0x8b0adfc5205bc1c3!2m2!1d-124.2082044!2d41.9938407!3e0?hl=en
You can do a just a little better on both time and distance by having the north endpoint on US199, just before Google switches over to routing you through Oregon.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Araz+Junction,+CA/41.8728004,-123.8454129/@41.8412882,-123.642747,9z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!1m1!1s0x80d6f755f28e3037:0x9bd2f64e66429cd6!2m2!1d-114.71361!2d32.74722!1m0!3e0?hl=en
Ah, I see you both came to much the same basic strategy, first.
Quote from: kkt on August 13, 2020, 10:26:59 PM
Quote from: GaryA on August 13, 2020, 04:21:24 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 12, 2020, 11:51:03 PM
Just shy of 17 hours at 1,012 miles for California:
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Araz+Junction,+CA/Smith+River+Agricultural+Inspection+Station,+Smith+River,+CA+95567/@37.4883997,-123.8424432,6z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x80d6f755f28e3037:0x9bd2f64e66429cd6!2m2!1d-114.71361!2d32.74722!1m5!1m1!1s0x54d00ac96207ba3d:0x8b0adfc5205bc1c3!2m2!1d-124.2082044!2d41.9938407!3e0?hl=en
You can do a just a little better on both time and distance by having the north endpoint on US199, just before Google switches over to routing you through Oregon.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Araz+Junction,+CA/41.8728004,-123.8454129/@41.8412882,-123.642747,9z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!1m1!1s0x80d6f755f28e3037:0x9bd2f64e66429cd6!2m2!1d-114.71361!2d32.74722!1m0!3e0?hl=en
Ah, I see you both came to much the same basic strategy, first.
Given how twisty US 199 gets it would be probably a solid 17.5 hours with the Collier Tunnel as a starting point.
Is there an official ruling on how to handle cases where the fastest route goes out of state? Do they not count at all?
Montauk to Buffalo is the obvious one for New York... and that goes through both PA and NJ. Basically anything involving Long Island is out the window.
But a trip between Clymer (in the southwestern corner) and Rouses Point (in the northeastern corner) as shown here (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Clymer,+NY/Rouses+Point,+NY/@43.4894409,-78.7415778,7z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x8832a6bfa5c5fbff:0xd8392c09cfee768c!2m2!1d-79.6299617!2d42.0208501!1m5!1m1!1s0x4cc98802cc912f89:0xad9eaa68dfbebc70!2m2!1d-73.3648557!2d44.9939279!3e0!5m1!1e1) is 7h 45min, 452 miles, and best of all, never even comes within 250 miles of NYC!
There's also Port Chester to Fort Niagara (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Fort+Niagara,+Youngstown,+NY/Port+Chester,+NY+10573/@42.1712126,-77.9868209,7.21z/data=!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x89d35f81dd960565:0x3663e546f1cd95aa!2m2!1d-79.0641966!2d43.2629808!1m5!1m1!1s0x89c2974262f72f33:0x90ef2fef88ad347c!2m2!1d-73.6656834!2d41.0017643!5m1!1e1), which is not too shabby at 426 miles and just under 7 hours.
(Google also offers a 410 mile routing (which it says would take a few minutes longer, as of the time of this post), but that route is disqualified anyways because it uses a county route. Yes, you read that right...)
Quote from: webny99 on August 13, 2020, 11:23:33 PM
Is there an official ruling on how to handle cases where the fastest route goes out of state? Do they not count at all?
Montauk to Buffalo is the obvious one for New York... and that goes through both PA and NJ. Basically anything involving Long Island is out the window.
But a trip between Clymer (in the southwestern corner) and Rouses Point (in the northeastern corner) as shown here (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Clymer,+NY/Rouses+Point,+NY/@43.4894409,-78.7415778,7z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x8832a6bfa5c5fbff:0xd8392c09cfee768c!2m2!1d-79.6299617!2d42.0208501!1m5!1m1!1s0x4cc98802cc912f89:0xad9eaa68dfbebc70!2m2!1d-73.3648557!2d44.9939279!3e0!5m1!1e1) is 7h 45min, 452 miles, and best of all, never even comes within 250 miles of NYC!
There's also Port Chester to Fort Niagara (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Fort+Niagara,+Youngstown,+NY/Port+Chester,+NY+10573/@42.1712126,-77.9868209,7.21z/data=!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x89d35f81dd960565:0x3663e546f1cd95aa!2m2!1d-79.0641966!2d43.2629808!1m5!1m1!1s0x89c2974262f72f33:0x90ef2fef88ad347c!2m2!1d-73.6656834!2d41.0017643!5m1!1e1), which is not too shabby at 426 miles and just under 7 hours.
(Google also offers a 410 mile routing (which it says would take a few minutes longer, as of the time of this post), but that route is disqualified anyways because it uses a county route. Yes, you read that right...)
If it goes out of state for any reason/length, it doesn't count. You can drag the Maps sliders until they're all on routes within NY.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on August 13, 2020, 11:32:04 PM
You can drag the Maps sliders until they're all on routes within NY.
If that's the case, that means "while going the fastest way" is out the window.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on August 13, 2020, 11:32:04 PM
Quote from: webny99 on August 13, 2020, 11:23:33 PM
Is there an official ruling on how to handle cases where the fastest route goes out of state? Do they not count at all?
Montauk to Buffalo is the obvious one for New York... and that goes through both PA and NJ. Basically anything involving Long Island is out the window.
But a trip between Clymer (in the southwestern corner) and Rouses Point (in the northeastern corner) as shown here (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Clymer,+NY/Rouses+Point,+NY/@43.4894409,-78.7415778,7z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x8832a6bfa5c5fbff:0xd8392c09cfee768c!2m2!1d-79.6299617!2d42.0208501!1m5!1m1!1s0x4cc98802cc912f89:0xad9eaa68dfbebc70!2m2!1d-73.3648557!2d44.9939279!3e0!5m1!1e1) is 7h 45min, 452 miles, and best of all, never even comes within 250 miles of NYC!
There's also Port Chester to Fort Niagara (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Fort+Niagara,+Youngstown,+NY/Port+Chester,+NY+10573/@42.1712126,-77.9868209,7.21z/data=!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x89d35f81dd960565:0x3663e546f1cd95aa!2m2!1d-79.0641966!2d43.2629808!1m5!1m1!1s0x89c2974262f72f33:0x90ef2fef88ad347c!2m2!1d-73.6656834!2d41.0017643!5m1!1e1), which is not too shabby at 426 miles and just under 7 hours.
(Google also offers a 410 mile routing (which it says would take a few minutes longer, as of the time of this post), but that route is disqualified anyways because it uses a county route. Yes, you read that right...)
If it goes out of state for any reason/length, it doesn't count. You can drag the Maps sliders until they're all on routes within NY.
Quote from: webny99 on August 13, 2020, 11:37:25 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on August 13, 2020, 11:32:04 PM
You can drag the Maps sliders until they're all on routes within NY.
If that's the case, that means "while going the fastest way" is out the window.
Correct. Yes, my intention was that you didn't leave the state, but also didn't "strain" to stay in it in order to reach your destination. There are some other places in western Colorado, for instance, where it's quicker to go through Moab, but if you forced yourself to stay in Colorado, would be in turn longer than the example I laid out in the OP.
Chris
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 13, 2020, 11:16:45 PM
Quote from: kkt on August 13, 2020, 10:26:59 PM
Quote from: GaryA on August 13, 2020, 04:21:24 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 12, 2020, 11:51:03 PM
Just shy of 17 hours at 1,012 miles for California:
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Araz+Junction,+CA/Smith+River+Agricultural+Inspection+Station,+Smith+River,+CA+95567/@37.4883997,-123.8424432,6z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x80d6f755f28e3037:0x9bd2f64e66429cd6!2m2!1d-114.71361!2d32.74722!1m5!1m1!1s0x54d00ac96207ba3d:0x8b0adfc5205bc1c3!2m2!1d-124.2082044!2d41.9938407!3e0?hl=en
You can do a just a little better on both time and distance by having the north endpoint on US199, just before Google switches over to routing you through Oregon.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Araz+Junction,+CA/41.8728004,-123.8454129/@41.8412882,-123.642747,9z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!1m1!1s0x80d6f755f28e3037:0x9bd2f64e66429cd6!2m2!1d-114.71361!2d32.74722!1m0!3e0?hl=en
Ah, I see you both came to much the same basic strategy, first.
Given how twisty US 199 gets it would be probably a solid 17.5 hours with the Collier Tunnel as a starting point.
But if you start at the Collier Tunnel, your fastest route is north to Grant's Pass and then south on I-5, so you leave California.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 12, 2020, 11:51:03 PM
Just shy of 17 hours at 1,012 miles for California:
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Araz+Junction,+CA/Smith+River+Agricultural+Inspection+Station,+Smith+River,+CA+95567/@37.4883997,-123.8424432,6z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x80d6f755f28e3037:0x9bd2f64e66429cd6!2m2!1d-114.71361!2d32.74722!1m5!1m1!1s0x54d00ac96207ba3d:0x8b0adfc5205bc1c3!2m2!1d-124.2082044!2d41.9938407!3e0
I think you need to double check this, since at the end the route enters Aragon to turn around. To the state line it's 1009 miles. Anyway, as pointed out going on US 199 is a bit longer.
Quote from: webny99 on August 13, 2020, 11:23:33 PM
There's also Port Chester to Fort Niagara (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Fort+Niagara,+Youngstown,+NY/Port+Chester,+NY+10573/@42.1712126,-77.9868209,7.21z/data=!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x89d35f81dd960565:0x3663e546f1cd95aa!2m2!1d-79.0641966!2d43.2629808!1m5!1m1!1s0x89c2974262f72f33:0x90ef2fef88ad347c!2m2!1d-73.6656834!2d41.0017643!5m1!1e1), which is not too shabby at 426 miles and just under 7 hours.
(Google also offers a 410 mile routing (which it says would take a few minutes longer, as of the time of this post), but that route is disqualified anyways because it uses a county route. Yes, you read that right...)
This very same reason made me not to go all the way to the Southernmost tip of Oregon, since the last section involves a forest road.
Bonus if you notice I've switched the names of the state and the Spanish autonomous community xD
Quote from: thspfc on August 13, 2020, 06:02:21 PM
Quote from: JCinSummerfield on August 13, 2020, 02:12:45 PM
Quote from: ftballfan on August 12, 2020, 03:42:35 PM
Michigan:
US-2 at the Wisconsin line (Ironwood) to I-75 at the Ohio line is 647 miles (10 hr 4 min) using US-2, M-69, US-2, I-75, US-23, I-96, I-275, and I-75. It is less than a half hour quicker to go over the Mackinac Bridge than going via the Chicago area.
US-41 at its beginning near Copper Harbor to I-75 at the Ohio line is 643 miles (10 hr 18 min) using US-41, M-28, M-77, US-2, I-75, US-23, I-96, I-275, and I-75.
Just a hunch, but I'd think that having the end in SW Michigan rather than SE Michigan would garner longer "quickest times", because it's not all interstate driving.
Correct. It's a little bit longer to go to SW Mich. So Michigan's answer is Copper Harbor to New Buffalo at nearly 11 hours. I'd guess that only a handful of states can beat that.
Following the OP's direction of "while going the fastest way" takes you through Chicago, with 8 3/4 hours drive time. In fact, staying in MI doesn't even come up as an option in Google Maps. You have to force it by insisting on going through another town - I chose Brevort in the eastern UP.
Quote from: kkt on August 14, 2020, 01:33:59 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 13, 2020, 11:16:45 PM
Quote from: kkt on August 13, 2020, 10:26:59 PM
Quote from: GaryA on August 13, 2020, 04:21:24 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 12, 2020, 11:51:03 PM
Just shy of 17 hours at 1,012 miles for California:
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Araz+Junction,+CA/Smith+River+Agricultural+Inspection+Station,+Smith+River,+CA+95567/@37.4883997,-123.8424432,6z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x80d6f755f28e3037:0x9bd2f64e66429cd6!2m2!1d-114.71361!2d32.74722!1m5!1m1!1s0x54d00ac96207ba3d:0x8b0adfc5205bc1c3!2m2!1d-124.2082044!2d41.9938407!3e0?hl=en
You can do a just a little better on both time and distance by having the north endpoint on US199, just before Google switches over to routing you through Oregon.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Araz+Junction,+CA/41.8728004,-123.8454129/@41.8412882,-123.642747,9z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!1m1!1s0x80d6f755f28e3037:0x9bd2f64e66429cd6!2m2!1d-114.71361!2d32.74722!1m0!3e0?hl=en
Ah, I see you both came to much the same basic strategy, first.
Given how twisty US 199 gets it would be probably a solid 17.5 hours with the Collier Tunnel as a starting point.
But if you start at the Collier Tunnel, your fastest route is north to Grant's Pass and then south on I-5, so you leave California.
But that part doesn't matter per the original criteria. It was simply finding the longest path between the furthest geographic points in a state and how long it would take to get there via state maintained roads. I guess one could infer that as the bird flies that technically makes the Oregon State Line on US 101 still further as the bird flies.
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 12, 2020, 03:30:25 PM
In your state, without leaving interstates, U.S. highways, or state highways, what is the longest amount of time (not distance) you can drive and not leave your state while going the fastest way?
My understanding of this quote is that we're excluding trips in which the fastest way involves leaving the state.
If not, I could plan a dandy trip for Washington involving Point Roberts...
Quote from: kkt on August 14, 2020, 09:46:53 AM
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 12, 2020, 03:30:25 PM
In your state, without leaving interstates, U.S. highways, or state highways, what is the longest amount of time (not distance) you can drive and not leave your state while going the fastest way?
My understanding of this quote is that we're excluding trips in which the fastest way involves leaving the state.
If not, I could plan a dandy trip for Washington involving Point Roberts...
Correct. And the most obvious choice, I was trying to prevent the likes of Prudhoe Bay to Hyder, AK which would run for a long time in another country much less another state.
To specify my intents with the OP:
- Take only Interstates, U.S. Highways, or State Highways as I could increase the time a lot if I picked some of the hard 4WD roads here in Colorado that might take 45 minutes to drive 5 miles
- Do not leave the state as per above
- Go the quickest way possible. If you have to have to select more than a starting point and a destination in Google Maps (a.k.a. a simple one way, not a multi-destination), that's not the point. Sure I could drive from Denver to Cortez via the Nebraska border, but that could go on ad infinitum with other waypoints. So something like Grand Portage, MN to anything in southeastern Minnesota would not qualify as it goes through Wisconsin the fastest way. Sure, you could route it through the Twin Cities, but that's "cheating"
Chris
It's a shame that the roundabout/loop at the west/east end of US 1 in CT aren't wholly in CT.
Then an infinite distance could have been claimed. :)
Quote from: MikeTheActuary on August 14, 2020, 04:45:42 PM
It's a shame that the roundabout/loop at the west/east end of US 1 in CT aren't wholly in CT.
Then an infinite distance could have been claimed. :)
Between what two points?
Implied in the "while going the fastest way" is that there are actual endpoints to measure between.
Brookings to Imnaha, about 685 miles
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Brookings,+OR/Imnaha,+OR/@43.7977008,-122.9137741,7z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x54daa508527f4317:0xb1b3476200f47a9f!2m2!1d-124.2839819!2d42.0526114!1m5!1m1!1s0x54a14ebc894e8fe1:0x70011826675fcab1!2m2!1d-116.8332066!2d45.5593227!3e0?hl=en
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 14, 2020, 10:46:29 AM
Quote from: kkt on August 14, 2020, 09:46:53 AM
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 12, 2020, 03:30:25 PM
In your state, without leaving interstates, U.S. highways, or state highways, what is the longest amount of time (not distance) you can drive and not leave your state while going the fastest way?
My understanding of this quote is that we're excluding trips in which the fastest way involves leaving the state.
If not, I could plan a dandy trip for Washington involving Point Roberts...
Correct. And the most obvious choice, I was trying to prevent the likes of Prudhoe Bay to Hyder, AK which would run for a long time in another country much less another state.
To specify my intents with the OP:
- Take only Interstates, U.S. Highways, or State Highways as I could increase the time a lot if I picked some of the hard 4WD roads here in Colorado that might take 45 minutes to drive 5 miles
- Do not leave the state as per above
- Go the quickest way possible. If you have to have to select more than a starting point and a destination in Google Maps (a.k.a. a simple one way, not a multi-destination), that's not the point. Sure I could drive from Denver to Cortez via the Nebraska border, but that could go on ad infinitum with other waypoints. So something like Grand Portage, MN to anything in southeastern Minnesota would not qualify as it goes through Wisconsin the fastest way. Sure, you could route it through the Twin Cities, but that's "cheating"
Chris
Its going to be tough to beat Colorado River and I-8 near Yuma to the Oregon border near Crescent City in California. It's just about 1000 miles and 16 hours. You can do it (and probably would) using only Interstates and US-101. By way of contract, Goose Lake near the Oregon border to San Ysidro is only about 750 miles. It's actually longer from Primm on the Nevada border to Crescent City than from Goose Lake to San Ysidro.
The route of OK-3 is basically this. You could probably lengthen the distance and time by continuing west of Boise City and ending at New Mexico instead of Colorado, and taking a slower route instead of the concurrencies with the interstates through Oklahoma City.
Quote from: debragga on August 13, 2020, 07:50:04 PM
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 13, 2020, 12:27:56 AM
Not that I want to start a thread about it necessarily, but almost all of these obviously are one rural corner to another. I wonder which state has the longest intrastate "commute" between the largest city and another area in the state. (Obviously Alaska, Texas, and California jump to mind, but I wonder if Denver to extreme SW Colorado might be right behind them.)
Chris
This is similar to my previous Louisiana answer. New Orleans to Shreveport: 4hr55min
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Shreveport,+LA/New+Orleans,+LA/@31.273137,-92.787303,7.75z/data=!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x86312a8d1798e91f:0x2ebd2c1687a49cdd!2m2!1d-93.7501789!2d32.5251516!1m5!1m1!1s0x8620a454b2118265:0xdb065be85e22d3b4!2m2!1d-90.0715323!2d29.9510658!3e0?hl=en
Indio and Redding California both have populations over 90000. Direct road distance: 668 miles. Time: 9:00
I couldn't do any much better than about 7:00 for cities of over 100000 population. I used Temecula to Santa Rosa.
If we allow cross-border or cross-frontier suburbs, Calexico, a cross-frontier suburb of Mexicali (which is over 1 million population) to Santa Rosa, is shorter than Indio to Redding, but clocks in just a bit over 9 hours.
Quote from: JCinSummerfield on August 13, 2020, 02:12:45 PM
Quote from: ftballfan on August 12, 2020, 03:42:35 PM
Michigan:
US-2 at the Wisconsin line (Ironwood) to I-75 at the Ohio line is 647 miles (10 hr 4 min) using US-2, M-69, US-2, I-75, US-23, I-96, I-275, and I-75. It is less than a half hour quicker to go over the Mackinac Bridge than going via the Chicago area.
US-41 at its beginning near Copper Harbor to I-75 at the Ohio line is 643 miles (10 hr 18 min) using US-41, M-28, M-77, US-2, I-75, US-23, I-96, I-275, and I-75.
Just a hunch, but I'd think that having the end in SW Michigan rather than SE Michigan would garner longer "quickest times", because it's not all interstate driving.
Correct. US-41's northern terminus to US-12 at the MI/IN state line is 666 miles at 10 hours and 56 minutes, via US-41, M-28, M77, US-2, I-75, US-127, M-55, US-131, I-196, I-94, and US-12.
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 16, 2020, 09:24:57 AM
Quote from: JCinSummerfield on August 13, 2020, 02:12:45 PM
Quote from: ftballfan on August 12, 2020, 03:42:35 PM
Michigan:
US-2 at the Wisconsin line (Ironwood) to I-75 at the Ohio line is 647 miles (10 hr 4 min) using US-2, M-69, US-2, I-75, US-23, I-96, I-275, and I-75. It is less than a half hour quicker to go over the Mackinac Bridge than going via the Chicago area.
US-41 at its beginning near Copper Harbor to I-75 at the Ohio line is 643 miles (10 hr 18 min) using US-41, M-28, M-77, US-2, I-75, US-23, I-96, I-275, and I-75.
Just a hunch, but I'd think that having the end in SW Michigan rather than SE Michigan would garner longer "quickest times", because it's not all interstate driving.
Correct. US-41's northern terminus to US-12 at the MI/IN state line is 666 miles at 10 hours and 56 minutes, via US-41, M-28, M77, US-2, I-75, US-127, M-55, US-131, I-196, I-94, and US-12.
The OP indicated that the route must meet two criteria (1) not leave the state and (2) be the fastest route. Any route from the Northern Terminus of US 41 to any point on Michigan's southern border west of I-69 violates at least one of the two criteria. The longest I could find that clearly meets both criteria is 10 hours 10 minutes to the southern end of M 49.
Quote from: cabiness42 on August 16, 2020, 10:00:55 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 16, 2020, 09:24:57 AM
Quote from: JCinSummerfield on August 13, 2020, 02:12:45 PM
Quote from: ftballfan on August 12, 2020, 03:42:35 PM
Michigan:
US-2 at the Wisconsin line (Ironwood) to I-75 at the Ohio line is 647 miles (10 hr 4 min) using US-2, M-69, US-2, I-75, US-23, I-96, I-275, and I-75. It is less than a half hour quicker to go over the Mackinac Bridge than going via the Chicago area.
US-41 at its beginning near Copper Harbor to I-75 at the Ohio line is 643 miles (10 hr 18 min) using US-41, M-28, M-77, US-2, I-75, US-23, I-96, I-275, and I-75.
Just a hunch, but I'd think that having the end in SW Michigan rather than SE Michigan would garner longer "quickest times", because it's not all interstate driving.
Correct. US-41's northern terminus to US-12 at the MI/IN state line is 666 miles at 10 hours and 56 minutes, via US-41, M-28, M77, US-2, I-75, US-127, M-55, US-131, I-196, I-94, and US-12.
The OP indicated that the route must meet two criteria (1) not leave the state and (2) be the fastest route. Any route from the Northern Terminus of US 41 to any point on Michigan's southern border west of I-69 violates at least one of the two criteria. The longest I could find that clearly meets both criteria is 10 hours 10 minutes to the southern end of M 49.
I interpreted the criteria to be the fastest route that stays within the state, not the fastest route period.
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 16, 2020, 10:08:28 AM
Quote from: cabiness42 on August 16, 2020, 10:00:55 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 16, 2020, 09:24:57 AM
Quote from: JCinSummerfield on August 13, 2020, 02:12:45 PM
Quote from: ftballfan on August 12, 2020, 03:42:35 PM
Michigan:
US-2 at the Wisconsin line (Ironwood) to I-75 at the Ohio line is 647 miles (10 hr 4 min) using US-2, M-69, US-2, I-75, US-23, I-96, I-275, and I-75. It is less than a half hour quicker to go over the Mackinac Bridge than going via the Chicago area.
US-41 at its beginning near Copper Harbor to I-75 at the Ohio line is 643 miles (10 hr 18 min) using US-41, M-28, M-77, US-2, I-75, US-23, I-96, I-275, and I-75.
Just a hunch, but I'd think that having the end in SW Michigan rather than SE Michigan would garner longer "quickest times", because it's not all interstate driving.
Correct. US-41's northern terminus to US-12 at the MI/IN state line is 666 miles at 10 hours and 56 minutes, via US-41, M-28, M77, US-2, I-75, US-127, M-55, US-131, I-196, I-94, and US-12.
The OP indicated that the route must meet two criteria (1) not leave the state and (2) be the fastest route. Any route from the Northern Terminus of US 41 to any point on Michigan's southern border west of I-69 violates at least one of the two criteria. The longest I could find that clearly meets both criteria is 10 hours 10 minutes to the southern end of M 49.
I interpreted the criteria to be the fastest route that stays within the state, not the fastest route period.
OP clarified in Reply #50.
Quote from: cabiness42 on August 16, 2020, 10:27:55 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 16, 2020, 10:08:28 AM
Quote from: cabiness42 on August 16, 2020, 10:00:55 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 16, 2020, 09:24:57 AM
Quote from: JCinSummerfield on August 13, 2020, 02:12:45 PM
Quote from: ftballfan on August 12, 2020, 03:42:35 PM
Michigan:
US-2 at the Wisconsin line (Ironwood) to I-75 at the Ohio line is 647 miles (10 hr 4 min) using US-2, M-69, US-2, I-75, US-23, I-96, I-275, and I-75. It is less than a half hour quicker to go over the Mackinac Bridge than going via the Chicago area.
US-41 at its beginning near Copper Harbor to I-75 at the Ohio line is 643 miles (10 hr 18 min) using US-41, M-28, M-77, US-2, I-75, US-23, I-96, I-275, and I-75.
Just a hunch, but I'd think that having the end in SW Michigan rather than SE Michigan would garner longer "quickest times", because it's not all interstate driving.
Correct. US-41's northern terminus to US-12 at the MI/IN state line is 666 miles at 10 hours and 56 minutes, via US-41, M-28, M77, US-2, I-75, US-127, M-55, US-131, I-196, I-94, and US-12.
The OP indicated that the route must meet two criteria (1) not leave the state and (2) be the fastest route. Any route from the Northern Terminus of US 41 to any point on Michigan's southern border west of I-69 violates at least one of the two criteria. The longest I could find that clearly meets both criteria is 10 hours 10 minutes to the southern end of M 49.
I interpreted the criteria to be the fastest route that stays within the state, not the fastest route period.
OP clarified in Reply #50.
Yes, he did.
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 14, 2020, 10:46:29 AM
Quote from: kkt on August 14, 2020, 09:46:53 AM
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 12, 2020, 03:30:25 PM
In your state, without leaving interstates, U.S. highways, or state highways, what is the longest amount of time (not distance) you can drive and not leave your state while going the fastest way?
My understanding of this quote is that we're excluding trips in which the fastest way involves leaving the state.
If not, I could plan a dandy trip for Washington involving Point Roberts...
Correct. And the most obvious choice, I was trying to prevent the likes of Prudhoe Bay to Hyder, AK which would run for a long time in another country much less another state.
To specify my intents with the OP:
- Take only Interstates, U.S. Highways, or State Highways as I could increase the time a lot if I picked some of the hard 4WD roads here in Colorado that might take 45 minutes to drive 5 miles
- Do not leave the state as per above
- Go the quickest way possible. If you have to have to select more than a starting point and a destination in Google Maps (a.k.a. a simple one way, not a multi-destination), that's not the point. Sure I could drive from Denver to Cortez via the Nebraska border, but that could go on ad infinitum with other waypoints. So something like Grand Portage, MN to anything in southeastern Minnesota would not qualify as it goes through Wisconsin the fastest way. Sure, you could route it through the Twin Cities, but that's "cheating"
Chris
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 16, 2020, 03:48:04 PM
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Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 16, 2020, 10:08:28 AM
Quote from: cabiness42 on August 16, 2020, 10:00:55 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 16, 2020, 09:24:57 AM
Quote from: JCinSummerfield on August 13, 2020, 02:12:45 PM
Quote from: ftballfan on August 12, 2020, 03:42:35 PM
Michigan:
US-2 at the Wisconsin line (Ironwood) to I-75 at the Ohio line is 647 miles (10 hr 4 min) using US-2, M-69, US-2, I-75, US-23, I-96, I-275, and I-75. It is less than a half hour quicker to go over the Mackinac Bridge than going via the Chicago area.
US-41 at its beginning near Copper Harbor to I-75 at the Ohio line is 643 miles (10 hr 18 min) using US-41, M-28, M-77, US-2, I-75, US-23, I-96, I-275, and I-75.
Just a hunch, but I'd think that having the end in SW Michigan rather than SE Michigan would garner longer "quickest times", because it's not all interstate driving.
Correct. US-41's northern terminus to US-12 at the MI/IN state line is 666 miles at 10 hours and 56 minutes, via US-41, M-28, M77, US-2, I-75, US-127, M-55, US-131, I-196, I-94, and US-12.
The OP indicated that the route must meet two criteria (1) not leave the state and (2) be the fastest route. Any route from the Northern Terminus of US 41 to any point on Michigan's southern border west of I-69 violates at least one of the two criteria. The longest I could find that clearly meets both criteria is 10 hours 10 minutes to the southern end of M 49.
I interpreted the criteria to be the fastest route that stays within the state, not the fastest route period.
OP clarified in Reply #50.
Yes, he did.
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 14, 2020, 10:46:29 AM
Quote from: kkt on August 14, 2020, 09:46:53 AM
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 12, 2020, 03:30:25 PM
In your state, without leaving interstates, U.S. highways, or state highways, what is the longest amount of time (not distance) you can drive and not leave your state while going the fastest way?
My understanding of this quote is that we're excluding trips in which the fastest way involves leaving the state.
If not, I could plan a dandy trip for Washington involving Point Roberts...
Correct. And the most obvious choice, I was trying to prevent the likes of Prudhoe Bay to Hyder, AK which would run for a long time in another country much less another state.
To specify my intents with the OP:
- Take only Interstates, U.S. Highways, or State Highways as I could increase the time a lot if I picked some of the hard 4WD roads here in Colorado that might take 45 minutes to drive 5 miles
- Do not leave the state as per above
- Go the quickest way possible. If you have to have to select more than a starting point and a destination in Google Maps (a.k.a. a simple one way, not a multi-destination), that's not the point. Sure I could drive from Denver to Cortez via the Nebraska border, but that could go on ad infinitum with other waypoints. So something like Grand Portage, MN to anything in southeastern Minnesota would not qualify as it goes through Wisconsin the fastest way. Sure, you could route it through the Twin Cities, but that's "cheating"
Chris
Yep. For Louisiana, anything from the northeast part of the state to say, New Orleans area, normally travels through Mississippi and back down to reach NO. But for the purpose of this game, would need to back track west and south through Louisiana's "waist" and be the quickest route goi by that direction to qualify.
iPhone
US 64 in NC is 583 miles from Tennessee to Whalebone Junction
Since no one did this for Iowa, the best that I could find is 454 miles, or 7 hours and 18 minutes, from the Grand Falls Casino NW of Larchwood on IA 9 at the South Dakota border to Victory Park on US 136 in Keokuk before it crosses the bridge to Illinois. The time could be even longer, as the suggested route I got from Google Maps involved a long section of US 20 and the Avenue of the Saints.
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 15, 2020, 09:27:27 PM
The route of OK-3 is basically this.
No it isn't. According to Google Maps, at least, taking OK-3 all the way adds about 45 minutes on top of the fastest route.
In Florida go from Pensacola to Key West and its like driving the distance of I-10 from NM to La. Plus Key West is a dead end so one must go back 135 miles to reach the Florida Turnpike so really add that distance to it and you have over 900 miles easily.
I am surprised that Nebraska has not come up. Or I may have missed it.
From US 159 at Rulo to US 20 NE/WY border near Van Tassell WY via US 159, US 73, US 75, NE 2, US 77, I-80, US 26, NE 92, NE 79E, US 26, NE 29, US 20 is 583 miles at 9 hours, 7 minutes.
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 12, 2020, 03:30:25 PM
In your state
Quote from: hobsini2 on August 18, 2020, 08:27:05 PM
I am surprised that Nebraska has not come up.
How many members live in Nebraska?
Also, in general:
Quote from: kphoger on August 11, 2020, 04:24:16 PM
it's crazy how few posts there are on here about Nebraska's highways.
Looks like Texas's is 14 hours and 23 minutes (936 miles!) from Texline to South Padre Island:
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/26.2318274,-97.1836631/36.5002386,-103.0412391/@29.6880878,-101.7217122,6.1z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!3m4!1m2!1d-103.0256124!2d36.4842877!3s0x8705648dfcd26dbb:0x33095eaf8b90cd!1m0!3e0
I tried El Paso to Texarkana and Orange, but that was nowhere as long as this route.
Quote from: kphoger on August 18, 2020, 02:43:36 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 15, 2020, 09:27:27 PM
The route of OK-3 is basically this.
No it isn't. According to Google Maps, at least, taking OK-3 all the way adds about 45 minutes on top of the fastest route.
What's the deviation? US-281 and spur down to Geary?
Quote from: ilpt4u on August 12, 2020, 05:26:01 PM
Illinois: 8 hours or so. Near Cave-in-Rock and Elizabethtown to East Dubuque, without traveling thru Iowa
Had to force Google Maps to take an all Illinois routing
I got slightly longer times doing East Dubuque to Cairo, but it almost isn't worth mentioning. The difference was like 5 minutes.
I finally broke down and did Arkansas.
From CR 413 outside Eudora, AR to the border at Southwest City, MO is 6:14 going the fastest and shortest route via US 65, I-40 and I-49 (395 miles).
So you ask, doesn't AR 43/OK 20 take you into Oklahoma a short ways? That is true. But the fastest and most direct route avoids that route. Instead, it follows Honey Creek Road off AR 72 west of Gravette up to the corner.
I tried the other diagonal – Blytheville to Texarkana – and while it seems to be a popular playoff trip that AR high school football fans like to ridicule for its travel, it's all interstate and only 328 miles and 5:04 by car. AR 137 east of Blytheville at the MO state line to the AR/LA/TX corner where the liquor store is located is 5:38 and 375 miles.
Quote from: kphoger on August 11, 2020, 04:24:16 PM
it's crazy how few posts there are on here about Nebraska's highways.
I mean, there's I-80 (which is discussed plenty IMO) and... not much else.
The Dakotas at least have I-29. Nebraska doesn't even have that. I believe it's the only state in the lower 48 with no N/S 2di.
Quote from: webny99 on August 19, 2020, 09:34:11 PM
Quote from: kphoger on August 11, 2020, 04:24:16 PM
it's crazy how few posts there are on here about Nebraska's highways.
I mean, there's I-80 (which is discussed plenty IMO) and... not much else.
The Dakotas at least have I-29. Nebraska doesn't even have that. I believe it's the only state in the lower 48 with no N/S 2di.
FWIW, I used to live in the Omaha area until 4 years ago. There isn't a whole lot to say about Nebraska's highways somebody else hasn't said already.
The lazy answer is if you drive I-10 the entire way across Texas it's 881 miles, plus driving into another time-zone. If you stay on US-83, it's 893 miles. In both instances it's not the fastest route, I know, but it brings up a project I have wanted to do for some time. I have wanted to got to Orange, TX on the summer solstice, wake up an hour or so before sunrise, drive to the Louisiana side of the Sabine River Bridge, then when the first light of dawn happens, start driving west on I-10. Then, with obeying all speed limits (even temporary ones) I drive completely on I-10 (no bypasses) and see if I can beat the sun to the Texas/New Mexico state line. It seems like I could do it with time to spare when you first think about it, but considering the solstice is a revolving date, it could occur on a weekday so factor in Houston and San Antonio traffic, it might not be as easy as a person would think. My wedding anniversary is June 24th, occurring pretty close to the solstice so the chance of me actually accomplishing this is very slim, because what wife wants to hear their husband tell them their anniversary trip is to dive across Texas to try and beat the sun?
I have been fascinated with it because it's weird to think there is a drive in Texas, depending on the time of year, that no matter how much time you give yourself, you can't make it out of the state in the daylight.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on August 19, 2020, 06:06:24 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on August 12, 2020, 05:26:01 PM
Illinois: 8 hours or so. Near Cave-in-Rock and Elizabethtown to East Dubuque, without traveling thru Iowa
Had to force Google Maps to take an all Illinois routing
I got slightly longer times doing East Dubuque to Cairo, but it almost isn't worth mentioning. The difference was like 5 minutes.
But for both of those, the shortest route goes through Iowa, so they are disqualified per the OP's original post and update in post 50.
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 19, 2020, 05:25:29 PM
Quote from: kphoger on August 18, 2020, 02:43:36 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 15, 2020, 09:27:27 PM
The route of OK-3 is basically this.
No it isn't. According to Google Maps, at least, taking OK-3 all the way adds about 45 minutes on top of the fastest route.
What's the deviation? US-281 and spur down to Geary?
Currently, Google tells me to take US-281 south from Watonga to I-40, take that all the way to the Indian Nation Turnpike, south to the Hugo bypass, then east on US-70 to Idabel. Of those 607 miles from state line to state line (via OK-3W), only about 321 miles (53%) of them would be on OK-3.
Using OK-3 the whole way (and 3W where there's a choice to be made), it currently estimates a 10:11 travel time.
Using Google's recommended route, it currently estimates a 9:37 travel time, 34 minutes faster.
Quote from: GaryA on August 13, 2020, 04:21:24 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 12, 2020, 11:51:03 PM
Just shy of 17 hours at 1,012 miles for California:
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Araz+Junction,+CA/Smith+River+Agricultural+Inspection+Station,+Smith+River,+CA+95567/@37.4883997,-123.8424432,6z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x80d6f755f28e3037:0x9bd2f64e66429cd6!2m2!1d-114.71361!2d32.74722!1m5!1m1!1s0x54d00ac96207ba3d:0x8b0adfc5205bc1c3!2m2!1d-124.2082044!2d41.9938407!3e0?hl=en
You can do a just a little better on both time and distance by having the north endpoint on US199, just before Google switches over to routing you through Oregon.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Araz+Junction,+CA/41.8728004,-123.8454129/@41.8412882,-123.642747,9z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!1m1!1s0x80d6f755f28e3037:0x9bd2f64e66429cd6!2m2!1d-114.71361!2d32.74722!1m0!3e0?hl=en
Finally got around to looking at the southern end of this - you can move it straight north to Picacho and now we're up to 1043 miles -- nearly 17 and a half hours. https://www.google.com/maps/dir/33.0239594,-114.6160144/41.8728004,-123.8454129/@37.7582995,-122.0648948,6.25z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0?hl=en
Quote from: GaryA on August 20, 2020, 02:09:59 PM
Quote from: GaryA on August 13, 2020, 04:21:24 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 12, 2020, 11:51:03 PM
Just shy of 17 hours at 1,012 miles for California:
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Araz+Junction,+CA/Smith+River+Agricultural+Inspection+Station,+Smith+River,+CA+95567/@37.4883997,-123.8424432,6z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x80d6f755f28e3037:0x9bd2f64e66429cd6!2m2!1d-114.71361!2d32.74722!1m5!1m1!1s0x54d00ac96207ba3d:0x8b0adfc5205bc1c3!2m2!1d-124.2082044!2d41.9938407!3e0?hl=en
The route shown routes through Oregon in violation of the OP's instructions.
You can do a just a little better on both time and distance by having the north endpoint on US199, just before Google switches over to routing you through Oregon.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Araz+Junction,+CA/41.8728004,-123.8454129/@41.8412882,-123.642747,9z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!1m1!1s0x80d6f755f28e3037:0x9bd2f64e66429cd6!2m2!1d-114.71361!2d32.74722!1m0!3e0?hl=en
Finally got around to looking at the southern end of this - you can move it straight north to Picacho and now we're up to 1043 miles -- nearly 17 and a half hours. https://www.google.com/maps/dir/33.0239594,-114.6160144/41.8728004,-123.8454129/@37.7582995,-122.0648948,6.25z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0?hl=en
Nevada will be 705 miles in 10:25 of Google Maps time. Start in the north where the Winnemucca to the Sea Highway, OR/NV 140, crosses into Nevada, and drive to the crossing of the Colorado River at Laughlin. The major towns visited will be: Winnemucca, Battle Mountain, Austin, Tonopah, Beatty, Las Vegas, Searchlight and Laughlin; we're using the NV 305/NV 376 "shortcut" from Winnemucca to Tonopah, rather than US 95.
Louisiana's is pretty much going to include the bottom of the boot part near Venice. Best I can find are:
Tidewater Rd past the town of Venice to the LA 1 tripping at LA/TX/AR is 456 miles in 7 hours 15 minutes.
7 hours 22 minutes to McCall Rd near Bolinger.
7 hours 27 minutes to Monica Lane near Springhill.
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Orange to El, Paso, TX is 12 hours and 854 miles.
Perryton to Brownsville, TX is 12.5 hours and 830 miles.
Quote from: GaryA on August 20, 2020, 02:09:59 PM
Quote from: GaryA on August 13, 2020, 04:21:24 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 12, 2020, 11:51:03 PM
Just shy of 17 hours at 1,012 miles for California:
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Araz+Junction,+CA/Smith+River+Agricultural+Inspection+Station,+Smith+River,+CA+95567/@37.4883997,-123.8424432,6z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x80d6f755f28e3037:0x9bd2f64e66429cd6!2m2!1d-114.71361!2d32.74722!1m5!1m1!1s0x54d00ac96207ba3d:0x8b0adfc5205bc1c3!2m2!1d-124.2082044!2d41.9938407!3e0?hl=en
You can do a just a little better on both time and distance by having the north endpoint on US199, just before Google switches over to routing you through Oregon.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Araz+Junction,+CA/41.8728004,-123.8454129/@41.8412882,-123.642747,9z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!1m1!1s0x80d6f755f28e3037:0x9bd2f64e66429cd6!2m2!1d-114.71361!2d32.74722!1m0!3e0?hl=en
Finally got around to looking at the southern end of this - you can move it straight north to Picacho and now we're up to 1043 miles -- nearly 17 and a half hours. https://www.google.com/maps/dir/33.0239594,-114.6160144/41.8728004,-123.8454129/@37.7582995,-122.0648948,6.25z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0?hl=en
I'm showing that this takes me through Oregon also. Fails to qualify.
Chris
Some of these out-of-state routings could be the result of Google recommending an in-state route one day but an out-of-state routing the next due to traffic conditions. Unless you pin the route to specific roads, then the link won't necessarily display the same blue line every time people click on it.
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 21, 2020, 01:18:36 PM
Quote from: GaryA on August 20, 2020, 02:09:59 PM
Quote from: GaryA on August 13, 2020, 04:21:24 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 12, 2020, 11:51:03 PM
Just shy of 17 hours at 1,012 miles for California:
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Araz+Junction,+CA/Smith+River+Agricultural+Inspection+Station,+Smith+River,+CA+95567/@37.4883997,-123.8424432,6z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x80d6f755f28e3037:0x9bd2f64e66429cd6!2m2!1d-114.71361!2d32.74722!1m5!1m1!1s0x54d00ac96207ba3d:0x8b0adfc5205bc1c3!2m2!1d-124.2082044!2d41.9938407!3e0?hl=en
You can do a just a little better on both time and distance by having the north endpoint on US199, just before Google switches over to routing you through Oregon.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Araz+Junction,+CA/41.8728004,-123.8454129/@41.8412882,-123.642747,9z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!1m1!1s0x80d6f755f28e3037:0x9bd2f64e66429cd6!2m2!1d-114.71361!2d32.74722!1m0!3e0?hl=en
Finally got around to looking at the southern end of this - you can move it straight north to Picacho and now we're up to 1043 miles -- nearly 17 and a half hours. https://www.google.com/maps/dir/33.0239594,-114.6160144/41.8728004,-123.8454129/@37.7582995,-122.0648948,6.25z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0?hl=en
I'm showing that this takes me through Oregon also. Fails to qualify.
Chris
Depending on traffic levels (mostly through the SF Bay Area), the exact point along US 199 at which it will switch from using US 101 in Northern California to I-5 (and thus going thorough Oregon) will vary somewhat. Move the starting point a little closer to Crescent City, or if you want a point that should always qualify, use Max's original idea of US 101 at the Oregon border.
Gary