Only one I can think of is the Northeast Expressway in Boston.
On what basis though? I'm usually not a fan of removing highways just for the sake of it, even if the traffic count is fairly nominal.
Once the bridges get old enough, I-229 through St. Joseph, MO, will likely be deleted.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 14, 2020, 01:08:46 PM
Only one I can think of is the Northeast Expressway in Boston.
Yes, because they finally gave up on the idea of punching I-95 through near north shore toward Peabody and punted by diplexing it with your avatar (128). And now that you mention it, I can't think of any others myself though I am sure there must be other examples.
I-895 NY
I-580 NE
I-78 JFK airport
I-40 inside Memphis beltway
I-84 Willimatic CT
I-40 through central Winston-Salem
I-40 through Greensboro (later restored)
I-85 through Spartanburg SC
I-85 in central Atlanta (now GA 13)
I-40 in downtown OKC
Soon we can add
I-74 inside Winston-Salem beltway se of town
Can we add Business Loop/Spur Interstates to this?
-I-170 in Baltimore
-I-78 Lehigh Valley Thruway (and by extension, I-378)
I-375 in Michigan will most likely be deleted once MDOT can actually come up with an alternative.
I-480 San Francisco
Would TEMP 85 count as formerly being in the interstate system? It ran from south of Greensboro, approximately at the Bus 85/US-29/US-70 exit to I-85 south of Lexington where US-29/US-70/US-52 rejoin I-85 again.
Florida's Turnpike from Palm Beach Gardens to Fort Pierce was for a time also the route for I-95.
Quote from: Mapmikey on August 14, 2020, 02:09:21 PM
I-40 through Greensboro (later restored)
Also I-85 through Greensboro.
If I-40 was ever signed along Wade Ave in Raleigh in the 1970s, then that would also count.
I-80 thru Sacramento. Was rerouted over the original I-880. Former route is US-50 and BUS 80 and unsigned I-305 and CA 51
Part of I-295 in Washington D.C., converted to non-freeway Southeast Boulevard (another I-295 segment was renumbered to I-695).
Proposed new alignment of I-80 in Sacramento was abandoned, but I'm unsure whether the closed segment (I think now used as a light-rail corridor) was ever opened to traffic or designated as part of I-80.
Not sure if it would count for the purposes of this thread, but I-395 between I-95 / I-495 and DC was originally I-95 until the remainder was canceled and was re-routed along the Beltway in the 1970s.
Until the present route of I-20 was finished west of Fort Worth, it ran along what is now US 287 to downtown Fort Worth and continued west on what is now I-30. I-30 terminated downtown. So I guess that section of US 287 counts.
Obviously that changed the mileage of I-30 and I imagine all the mileposts and exit numbers had to be changed, but that was way before my time.
Quote from: sprjus4 on August 14, 2020, 06:44:56 PM
Not sure if it would count for the purposes of this thread, but I-395 between I-95 / I-495 and DC was originally I-95 until the remainder was canceled and was re-routed along the Beltway in the 1970s.
I've been interpreting this thread as a still existing road was removed from the interstate system so renumberings to other interstate designations wouldn't count nor would say completely abandoned sections of the Pennsylvania Turnpike.
There is also I-70 just East of I-695.
I-540 west of I-40 was signed then changed to NC 540 but I have to check if it was actually put into the interstate system. I-295 Fayetteville also did this but is going to be fully restored.
If segments under construction but forever abandoned count then there is I-266 Three Sisters Bridge
Quote from: tigerwings on August 14, 2020, 06:34:07 PM
I-80 thru Sacramento. Was rerouted over the original I-880. Former route is US-50 and BUS 80 and unsigned I-305 and CA 51
But the unsigned I-305 is still in the Interstate System. Only the CA-51 section was actually removed from the system.
Along a similar vein is the northernmost section of the Orange Freeway (between I-10 and I-210/former CA-30). It was I-210, but once CA-210 was completed out to San Bernardino, it was renumbered as the northern end of CA-57. BUT as far as the Interstate System is concerned, it is still part of I-210.
Other sections removed in California, all in 1965:
-I-80 between the west end of the Bay Bridge and US-101 (basically the portion in the city of San Francisco)
-I(CA)-10 between US-101 and I-5 (the San Bernardino Split) - was I-110
-US-101 between I(CA)-10 and I-5 (from the SB Split to the East LA Interchange) - was I-105
**There's a good thread covering some of this here:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=27406.0 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=27406.0)
A whole lot of Temp Routes.
Temp I-90 in Seattle once used Dearborn Street and Rainier Avenue, the latter of which has also been removed from the state highway system with the truncation of WA 167/900.
Quote from: kendancy66 on August 14, 2020, 04:47:17 PM
Would TEMP 85 count as formerly being in the interstate system? It ran from south of Greensboro, approximately at the Bus 85/US-29/US-70 exit to I-85 south of Lexington where US-29/US-70/US-52 rejoin I-85 again.
I found no evidence I-85 TEMP was officially in the interstate system. There is no AASHTO item removing it when I-85 was completed in 1984. Online availability of AASHTO minutes stops at 1967 so it is possible 85 TEMP was in the system in the 1950s (I-85's actual routing was known way back then).
QuoteI-540 west of I-40 was signed then changed to NC 540 but I have to check if it was actually put into the interstate system.
I-540 FUTURE was approved by AASHTO in 2006 for the portion that was renumbered as NC 540
Now for one that will bring the tomato throwing...
GA 520 was officially placed into the interstate system from US 17 to Jekyll Island for 1 day as I-50. That one day was May 7, 2006. Why there? That's where the AASHTO US Route Numbering Committee was meeting and they were doing a vintage car ride to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Interstates...
http://web.archive.org/web/20170202154531/https://route.transportation.org/Documents/USRN_Minutes_5-5-06.pdf
QuoteA whole lot of Temp Routes
Don't know about the early decades of the system where those were prevalent (i.e. were they really in the interstate system) but these days TEMP designations require AASHTO approval. Since 1967 only two have appeared on the minutes: I-77 TEMP in Columbia SC was approved; I-74 TEMP in Winston-Salem NC was not.
Is the I-515 designation going to be removed in Vegas? It's pointless now that I-11 is on that road as well. Obviously that's not relevant to the question here, but still.
I-510 and I-410 were removed from the Phoenix Area. I-410 would become mainline I-10 and I-510 became AZ 51.
Quote from: thspfc on August 14, 2020, 09:46:37 PM
Is the I-515 designation going to be removed in Vegas? It's pointless now that I-11 is on that road as well. Obviously that's not relevant to the question here, but still.
NVDOT hasn't committed to routing I-11 on what's now I-515, which is still signed only as I-515/US 93/US 95, with no mention of I-11. Other options for extending I-11 through the Las Vegas area are in play in the ongoing environmental review process, though it would not surprise me if I-515 disappears sometime this decade.
There's a very long thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7881.msg179722#msg179722) on this issue.
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 14, 2020, 04:27:57 PM
I-480 San Francisco
I-80 ended up following the former I-880 and I-305 was substituted for part of it (from the former I-880, now I-80 "Stay Right to Stay On" to what is now CASR-51). After a 90 degree turn advise to 35 MPH, what is now CASR-51 (and signed as "Business 80") was removed from the Interstate system.
Will also add the old southern terminus of Interstate 176 in Morgantown, PA, with an approximately one mile long section of freeway now designated as a quadrant route.
I-20 in TX between I-30/Loop 12 in Dallas, to where Spur 557 now intersects current I-20 in Terrell.
Quote from: oscar on August 14, 2020, 10:51:12 PM
Quote from: thspfc on August 14, 2020, 09:46:37 PM
Is the I-515 designation going to be removed in Vegas? It's pointless now that I-11 is on that road as well. Obviously that's not relevant to the question here, but still.
NVDOT hasn't committed to routing I-11 on what's now I-515, which is still signed only as I-515/US 93/US 95, with no mention of I-11. Other options for extending I-11 through the Las Vegas area are in play in the ongoing environmental review process, though it would not surprise me if I-515 disappears sometime this decade.
There's a very long thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7881.msg179722#msg179722) on this issue.
Ok, interesting, I thought for some reason that I-11 was already signed on I-515.
Also I-124 in Tennessee.
Mike
Quote from: mgk920 on August 15, 2020, 12:46:54 PM
Also I-124 in Tennessee.
Mike
It's still there, just unsigned, though, isn't it?
Quote from: michravera on August 15, 2020, 03:35:20 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 14, 2020, 04:27:57 PM
I-480 San Francisco
I-80 ended up following the former I-880 and I-305 was substituted for part of it (from the former I-880, now I-80 "Stay Right to Stay On" to what is now CASR-51). After a 90 degree turn advise to 35 MPH, what is now CASR-51 (and signed as "Business 80") was removed from the Interstate system.
Which are in Sacramento, not San Francisco.
Quote from: Mapmikey on August 14, 2020, 08:56:17 PM
Now for one that will bring the tomato throwing...
GA 520 was officially placed into the interstate system from US 17 to Jekyll Island for 1 day as I-50. That one day was May 7, 2006. Why there? That's where the AASHTO US Route Numbering Committee was meeting and they were doing a vintage car ride to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Interstates...
http://web.archive.org/web/20170202154531/https://route.transportation.org/Documents/USRN_Minutes_5-5-06.pdf
This is really cool, and I didn't know about it. So I added it to the Wikipedia page for GA 520.
Quote from: hbelkins on August 15, 2020, 12:49:15 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on August 15, 2020, 12:46:54 PM
Also I-124 in Tennessee.
Mike
It's still there, just unsigned, though, isn't it?
Yes, it's still in the system.
Quote from: thspfc on August 14, 2020, 09:46:37 PM
Is the I-515 designation going to be removed in Vegas? It's pointless now that I-11 is on that road as well. Obviously that's not relevant to the question here, but still.
I-894 still exists for no apparent reason (other than Wisconsin really loves triplexed highways) around Milwaukee.
Depends on the confusion over how to sign the Chicago Skyway.
Technically most of I-90 west I-5 was deleted, even though it was never built, and the designation stopped at 4th Ave, instead of SR 99/Alaskan Way Viaduct.
I-505 in Portland was partially built, and supposedly signed, before being removed, properly terminated, and just becoming part of US-30.
Quote from: kkt on August 15, 2020, 12:52:42 PM
Quote from: michravera on August 15, 2020, 03:35:20 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 14, 2020, 04:27:57 PM
I-480 San Francisco
I-80 ended up following the former I-880 and I-305 was substituted for part of it (from the former I-880, now I-80 "Stay Right to Stay On" to what is now CASR-51). After a 90 degree turn advise to 35 MPH, what is now CASR-51 (and signed as "Business 80") was removed from the Interstate system.
Which are in Sacramento, not San Francisco.
Of course, I'm sorry that I didn't say so.
Coming soon...the piece of former I-164 between US 41 and where the new I-69 Ohio River Bridge willl be built in Evansville. I guess that little piece could end up with an unsigned/hidden Interstate system designation of some sort, but I figured it would just become part of a slightly longer Verteran's Memorial Parkway like the highway west of the US 41 interchange is
I-880 Sacramento but there is a section of CA-244 that was supposed to meet interstate standards for the then possible Beltline freeway expansion until that was cancelled though at the now CA-51@ I-80 interchange .
Quote from: TEG24601 on August 15, 2020, 03:27:38 PM
Depends on the confusion over how to sign the Chicago Skyway.
I thought that was settled several years ago, and it really is part of I-90 again.
QuoteTechnically most of I-90 west I-5 was deleted, even though it was never built, and the designation stopped at 4th Ave, instead of SR 99/Alaskan Way Viaduct.
Same goes for I-710, a never-built freeway in Tucson AZ that was killed off in the mid or late 1970s.
Also coming soon, in Cleveland, I-490 should get trimmed a 1/2 mile, east of I-77, when the Opportunity Corridor boulevard is completed next year. (It will then be signed as Ohio 10, east of I-77, for reasons only ODOT knows)
I do not know if I-290 was ever signed with I-271, between I-90 and US 422/Oh 87, before I-290 taken out in 1970.
I don't know where the gap at the Skyway came from. I have the improvement plans from 1960 . The Skyway was 94 then and Bishop Ford was 90. They were flipped about 1965. The numbers on the IKE and Kennedy were too. Part of the Kennedy was a state highway because it was a non chargeable segment. But nothing has been deleted. There was the crosstown that got a number and a South lake shore drive that did too they've ever never built.
There seems to have been some debate about 255 in metro east but it was done.
The only deletion discussion was the famed 180 that is so fascinating it should have a thread.....but it's bridges are being redeemed so it will stay. Illinois adds does not delete.
Fart Smock.
Quote from: 3467 on August 15, 2020, 07:11:02 PM
I don't know where the gap at the Skyway came from. I have the improvement plans from 1960 . The Skyway was 94 then and Bishop Ford was 90. They were flipped about 1965. The numbers on the IKE and Kennedy were too. Part of the Kennedy was a state highway because it was a non chargeable segment. But nothing has been deleted. There was the crosstown that got a number and a South lake shore drive that did too they've ever never built.
There seems to have been some debate about 255 in metro east but it was done.
The only deletion discussion was the famed 180 that is so fascinating it should have a thread.....but it's bridges are being redeemed so it will stay. Illinois adds does not delete.
I had a 1978 atlas that showed I-90 along the Eisenhower instead of I-290, with the Kennedy between I-94 and IL 53/I-290 being IL 194 and the O'Hare Freeway (now I-190) being IL 594
Yes I checked mine it appears the switch took place just after.
1965 Map had same but no number on Bessie Coleman. The Skyway Bishop Ford Switch was there.
Also toll US 41 on the Tri State.
Quote from: ftballfan on August 15, 2020, 07:15:17 PM
Quote from: 3467 on August 15, 2020, 07:11:02 PM
I don't know where the gap at the Skyway came from. I have the improvement plans from 1960 . The Skyway was 94 then and Bishop Ford was 90. They were flipped about 1965. The numbers on the IKE and Kennedy were too. Part of the Kennedy was a state highway because it was a non chargeable segment. But nothing has been deleted. There was the crosstown that got a number and a South lake shore drive that did too they've ever never built.
There seems to have been some debate about 255 in metro east but it was done.
The only deletion discussion was the famed 180 that is so fascinating it should have a thread.....but it's bridges are being redeemed so it will stay. Illinois adds does not delete.
I had a 1978 atlas that showed I-90 along the Eisenhower instead of I-290, with the Kennedy between I-94 and IL 53/I-290 being IL 194 and the O'Hare Freeway (now I-190) being IL 594
The change was in 1979. I want to say May, but I'm not 100% sure. I lived in Glendale Heights and worked in Rolling Meadows at the time, so the "Eisenhower Extension" was my way to and from work. I drove to work on I-90 one day, and drove home that night on I-290. :)
Quote from: 3467 on August 15, 2020, 07:30:04 PM
Yes I checked mine it appears the switch took place just after.
1965 Map had same but no number on Bessie Coleman. The Skyway Bishop Ford Switch was there.
IIRC, the I-90/I-94 swap was in 1964.
QuoteAlso toll US 41 on the Tri State.
The TOLL US 30 on the East-West (Reagan) Tollway and the TOLL US 41 on the Tri-State were relics from the late 1950s. They were removed in the mid '60s.
Quote from: NE2 on August 15, 2020, 07:13:16 PM
Fart Smock.
Oh, good point. Don't know how I forgot about that.
Quote from: Crown Victoria on August 15, 2020, 04:57:38 AM
Will also add the old southern terminus of Interstate 176 in Morgantown, PA, with an approximately one mile long section of freeway now designated as a quadrant route.
Looks like PTC forgot that when they placed these overpass signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1616635,-75.8978102,3a,75y,267.54h,97.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYo1JBd6sLVM91HQpIJ7VaA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) on such roughly a decade ago.
Quote from: -- US 175 -- on August 15, 2020, 10:18:43 AM
I-20 in TX between I-30/Loop 12 in Dallas, to where Spur 557 now intersects current I-20 in Terrell.
Yes, what is currently US 80 to Spur 557 was I-20. I wish they had kept that freeway in the system and named it I-220
I-495 in NJ