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Title: Expressways with no exits (just beginning and end points)
Post by: Skye on August 17, 2020, 07:43:19 PM
Does anyone know of any controlled access expressways (does not matter what designation) that do not have exits where you can get on or off of the expressway other than the end points?  The only one I can think of is I-865 in Indianapolis.
Title: Re: Expressways with no exits (just beginning and end points)
Post by: Max Rockatansky on August 17, 2020, 07:47:07 PM
CA 244 near Sacramento.
Title: Re: Expressways with no exits (just beginning and end points)
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on August 17, 2020, 08:04:16 PM
I-189 in Vermont
Title: Re: Expressways with no exits (just beginning and end points)
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on August 17, 2020, 08:07:19 PM
The Chicago Skyway has no exits EB and no entrances WB, so you can't drive on any part of it without going through the single Toll Plaza at the East end.
Title: Re: Expressways with no exits (just beginning and end points)
Post by: Roadrunner75 on August 17, 2020, 08:45:06 PM
Whitehurst Freeway in DC (if we don't consider it an extension of I-66 via ramps...).

The old I-170 freeway in Baltimore is arguable too.



Title: Re: Expressways with no exits (just beginning and end points)
Post by: Eth on August 17, 2020, 08:54:19 PM
I-381 in Bristol, VA was the one that immediately came to mind.
Title: Re: Expressways with no exits (just beginning and end points)
Post by: 1995hoo on August 17, 2020, 09:09:36 PM
I-587.
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Post by: pianocello on August 17, 2020, 09:46:55 PM
FL 451 and FL 453 in the northwest parts of the Orlando area.
Title: Re: Expressways with no exits (just beginning and end points)
Post by: jmacswimmer on August 17, 2020, 10:10:28 PM
Cabin John Parkway (considered I-495X by MDOT SHA) - basically a long ramp between Clara Barton Parkway towards the east and I-495 towards the north in the DC area.

Quote from: cabiness42 on August 17, 2020, 08:07:19 PM
The Chicago Skyway has no exits EB and no entrances WB, so you can't drive on any part of it without going through the single Toll Plaza at the East end.

I-895/Harbor Tunnel Thruway in the Baltimore area is set up similarly - only exception is exits 12 & 14, where you can enter/exit facing away from the tunnel & toll plaza.
Title: Re: Expressways with no exits (just beginning and end points)
Post by: hobsini2 on August 17, 2020, 10:34:14 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on August 17, 2020, 08:07:19 PM
The Chicago Skyway has no exits EB and no entrances WB, so you can't drive on any part of it without going through the single Toll Plaza at the East end.

Not entirely true. After the toll plaza but before the Big Bridge, the Skyway has an EB exit/WB entrance at Anthony Ave/92nd St. The Big Bridge is in the background if you zoom in.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7313317,-87.5602428,3a,90y,137.88h,102.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAzqkCTYK_fitM5ceupn24w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
The next exit EB is at the state line with Indianapolis Blvd.
Title: Re: Expressways with no exits (just beginning and end points)
Post by: ilpt4u on August 17, 2020, 10:43:07 PM
Probably cheating a bit, but since the replacement bridge process is not done and back on hold, at least for now, the "western"  end of IN 912/Cline Ave is a glorified ramp between West/North-facing I-90 (EB 90 Exit, WB 90 Entrance) and Calumet Ave/US 41

Whether IN 912 is ever rejoined into one Freeway remains to be seen
Title: Re: Expressways with no exits (just beginning and end points)
Post by: hobsini2 on August 17, 2020, 10:54:23 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on August 17, 2020, 10:43:07 PM
Probably cheating a bit, but since the replacement bridge process is not done and back on hold, at least for now, the "western"  end of IN 912/Cline Ave is a glorified ramp between West/North-facing I-90 (EB 90 Exit, WB 90 Entrance) and Calumet Ave/US 41

Whether IN 912 is ever rejoined into one Freeway remains to be seen

The bridge project was put on hold in April. But not cancelled completely.
Title: Re: Expressways with no exits (just beginning and end points)
Post by: EpicRoadways on August 17, 2020, 10:56:45 PM
It's a stretch, but you could argue that (extremely) short 1/2 mile entirety of MN-121 (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/44.897831,-93.2899522/44.8916618,-93.2952263/@44.8932778,-93.3005881,1778m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!4m1!3e2) from the I-35W/MN-62 interchange to the 58th Street traffic signal in Minneapolis is an expressway. The segment is divided, signed at 55 MPH, and has a pedestrian bridge. I know that MN-121 begins at the EB MN-62 entrance ramp, but I can't remember if it officially ends at that first signal with 58th Street or at the next signal on 56th. If it's the latter I guess it wouldn't really count as it isn't fully limited-access from either direction, but it's still an interesting example.
Title: Re: Expressways with no exits (just beginning and end points)
Post by: rickmastfan67 on August 17, 2020, 10:57:02 PM
Quote from: Eth on August 17, 2020, 08:54:19 PM
I-381 in Bristol, VA was the one that immediately came to mind.

I don't think that one would count since the original poster said exits @ each end.  The Southern end of I-381 is an at-grade intersection with a traffic light.
Title: Re: Expressways with no exits (just beginning and end points)
Post by: jp the roadgeek on August 17, 2020, 11:03:15 PM
I-478 :bigass:
I-395 in MD :sombrero:
Title: Re: Expressways with no exits (just beginning and end points)
Post by: bing101 on August 17, 2020, 11:11:13 PM
CA-10 Los Angeles because mainly this route is within the East Los Angeles Interchange where CA-10 is used as a ramp for US-101 and I-10.
Title: Re: Expressways with no exits (just beginning and end points)
Post by: Max Rockatansky on August 17, 2020, 11:41:36 PM
CA 77 would also technically qualify given it is another incomplete stub freeway north of I-880 near Oakland. 
Title: Re: Expressways with no exits (just beginning and end points)
Post by: Max Rockatansky on August 17, 2020, 11:53:39 PM
Quote from: bing101 on August 17, 2020, 11:11:13 PM
CA-10 Los Angeles because mainly this route is within the East Los Angeles Interchange where CA-10 is used as a ramp for US-101 and I-10.

I forgot to mention it in the other thread but I had a closer look at said interchange in the Postmile Tool.  Apparently Caltrans has it under it's Postmile Log completely as Route 10 but with "S" suffix mileage.  Specifically the east terminus has a Postmile of Route 10 LA S0.655. 
Title: Re: Expressways with no exits (just beginning and end points)
Post by: DJ Particle on August 18, 2020, 01:21:30 AM
Quote from: EpicRoadways on August 17, 2020, 10:56:45 PM
It's a stretch, but you could argue that (extremely) short 1/2 mile entirety of MN-121 (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/44.897831,-93.2899522/44.8916618,-93.2952263/@44.8932778,-93.3005881,1778m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!4m1!3e2) from the I-35W/MN-62 interchange to the 58th Street traffic signal in Minneapolis is an expressway. The segment is divided, signed at 55 MPH, and has a pedestrian bridge. I know that MN-121 begins at the EB MN-62 entrance ramp, but I can't remember if it officially ends at that first signal with 58th Street or at the next signal on 56th. If it's the latter I guess it wouldn't really count as it isn't fully limited-access from either direction, but it's still an interesting example.

It ends at 58th.  Between 58th and 56th it's been signed as CSAH-22 since the Crosstown Commons project was completed in 2011.

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.8980987,-93.2891796,3a,34.2y,31.02h,88.01t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1saRZuytmgzQ4p8vWFAMIgkw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DaRZuytmgzQ4p8vWFAMIgkw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D179.75133%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Expressways with no exits (just beginning and end points)
Post by: sprjus4 on August 18, 2020, 01:24:24 AM
I-564 Intermodal Connector in Norfolk, VA.
US-58 Midtown Tunnel in Portsmouth / Norfolk, VA.
US-13 Bypass in Suffolk, VA.
US-58 Bypass in Holland, VA.
US-58 Bypass in Courtland, VA.
Title: Re: Expressways with no exits (just beginning and end points)
Post by: Bruce on August 18, 2020, 01:32:58 AM
WA 7 in Tacoma, which is a short stub off another short stub (I-705)
Title: Re: Expressways with no exits (just beginning and end points)
Post by: plain on August 18, 2020, 04:08:34 AM
Quote from: sprjus4 on August 18, 2020, 01:24:24 AM
I-564 Intermodal Connector in Norfolk, VA.
US-58 Midtown Tunnel in Portsmouth / Norfolk, VA.
US-13 Bypass in Suffolk, VA.
US-58 Bypass in Holland, VA.
US-58 Bypass in Courtland, VA.

I agree about Intermodal Connector and Courtland but I'm not sure if the others meet the requirements.


A few more VA examples:

US 58 Lawrenceville Bypass

US 58 ALT Coeburn

US 460 Pearisburg

VA 105 between I-64 and US 60
Title: Re: Expressways with no exits (just beginning and end points)
Post by: ari-s-drives on August 18, 2020, 10:00:01 AM
Upper Great Hwy in San Francisco, CA is basically a slow divided expressway with no cross streets or interchanges except for seven pedestrian crosswalks from Lincoln Way to Sloat Blvd. (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/37.7640182,-122.5102389/37.7355893,-122.5067884/@37.7498682,-122.5241738,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!4m1!3e0)