I was just thinking about how US 69 has its northern end at MN 13 in Albert Lea. (Why they didn't extend it a little further north to end at I-90, I don't know.)
Nonetheless, that made me wonder: what other US highways might there be that end not at an interstate or another US highway, but rather at a state highway instead?
US 87 has its southern end at TX 238.
US 2 (western segment) has its western end at WA 529.
US 209 at PA 147 in Millersburg, PA.
US 34/Ogden Ave at IL 43/Harlem Ave in Chicago - the US 34 designation ends from the west at IL 43
Quote from: KCRoadFan on August 27, 2020, 09:59:56 PM
I was just thinking about how US 69 has its northern end at MN 13 in Albert Lea. (Why they didn't extend it a little further north to end at I-90, I don't know.)
Nonetheless, that made me wonder: what other US highways might there be that end not at an interstate or another US highway, but rather at a state highway instead?
The crossroad where US 69 ends and MN 13 takes the short E/W jog into downtown Albert Lea is old US 16 (not sure if 13 was duplexed with 16 into downtown to meet US 65 like 69 was for a few years, or if 13 and 69 both ended at the same intersection with 16 until that route was eliminated and then 13 was extended for some reason).
US 3 at MA 3 :sombrero:
US 6 at MA 6A
US 20 at MA 2
US 44 at MA 3A
US 466 ended at CA 1 once upon a time.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on August 27, 2020, 10:51:44 PM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on August 27, 2020, 09:59:56 PM
I was just thinking about how US 69 has its northern end at MN 13 in Albert Lea. (Why they didn't extend it a little further north to end at I-90, I don't know.)
Nonetheless, that made me wonder: what other US highways might there be that end not at an interstate or another US highway, but rather at a state highway instead?
The crossroad where US 69 ends and MN 13 takes the short E/W jog into downtown Albert Lea is old US 16 (not sure if 13 was duplexed with 16 into downtown to meet US 65 like 69 was for a few years, or if 13 and 69 both ended at the same intersection with 16 until that route was eliminated and then 13 was extended for some reason).
Is there a reason why US 69 doesn't simply follow MN 13 to its terminus at I-35W or follow MN 13 and then make a westward jog in the Twin Cities area and then absorb US 169's segment from Shakpee northward?
Do secondaries count? US 360's east end is at a secondary route in Reedville.
US 90, 92, 98, 192 all have their eastern terminus at Floria A1A. Pretty sure US 41 used to have its southern (eastern) terminus at A1A in Miami Beach before it got truncated.
US 54 has its western terminus at Loop 375.
US 62 in Niagara Falls, NY at NY 104. While I'm looking up there, there may be some that end at Canadian providencial highways. Including US1/NB17 and US191/SK4
Quote from: ozarkman417 on August 27, 2020, 11:51:05 PM
US 62 in Niagara Falls, NY at NY 104. While I'm looking up there, there may be some that end at Canadian providencial highways.
In that case, most (all?) US routes that end at the border and connect through (i.e. not US 75 where the road just ends).
US-60's eastern end (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.8293803,-75.9735099,3a,48.8y,238.37h,81.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7hFIb0Cchb0jajSaSgk20A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1) continues as General Booth Blvd, an unnumbered road in Virginia Beach, VA.
Quote from: ztonyg on August 27, 2020, 11:30:28 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on August 27, 2020, 10:51:44 PM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on August 27, 2020, 09:59:56 PM
I was just thinking about how US 69 has its northern end at MN 13 in Albert Lea. (Why they didn't extend it a little further north to end at I-90, I don't know.)
Nonetheless, that made me wonder: what other US highways might there be that end not at an interstate or another US highway, but rather at a state highway instead?
The crossroad where US 69 ends and MN 13 takes the short E/W jog into downtown Albert Lea is old US 16 (not sure if 13 was duplexed with 16 into downtown to meet US 65 like 69 was for a few years, or if 13 and 69 both ended at the same intersection with 16 until that route was eliminated and then 13 was extended for some reason).
Is there a reason why US 69 doesn't simply follow MN 13 to its terminus at I-35W or follow MN 13 and then make a westward jog in the Twin Cities area and then absorb US 169's segment from Shakpee northward?
Not sure. US 69 has never extended beyond Albert Lea, so maybe they thought it was redundant to US 65?
Quote from: ozarkman417 on August 27, 2020, 11:51:05 PM
there may be some that end at Canadian provincial highways, inlcuding US1/NB17
That would be US 1 / NB 161.
The other Canadian ends:
- US 3 / QC 257
- US 5 / QC 143
- US 11 / QC 223
- US 52 / SK 39
- US 53 / ON 71
- US 59 / MB 59
- US 83 / MB 83
- US 85 / SK 35
- US 93 / BC 93
- US 95 / BC 95
- US 97 / BC 97
- US 281 / MB 10 (and ND 3)
- US 395 / BC 395
Quote from: sprjus4 on August 28, 2020, 12:20:55 AM
US-60's eastern end (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.8293803,-75.9735099,3a,48.8y,238.37h,81.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7hFIb0Cchb0jajSaSgk20A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1) continues as General Booth Blvd, an unnumbered road in Virginia Beach, VA.
That sign may actually be in error (http://www.vahighways.com/route-log/us060.htm). All official sources indicate that US 60 still ends at the Rudee Inlet loop on Atlantic Ave.
One US route not mentioned yet: US 167 in Abbeville, LA.
None in Colorado. All seven that end here, US24, US34, US36, US84, US138, US350, US400 end at interstates or other U.S. routes.
Chris
Technically, the southern end for US-223 is at Monroe St. in Sylvania, OH. OH-184 & OH-51 both end on the east side of the overpass. The end sign for US-223 is on the exit ramp, on the west side of the overpass, making the exit ramp part of US-223.
US 29 N ends at MD 99
US 113 N ends at DE 1
US 301 N ends at DE1
Quote from: JCinSummerfield on August 28, 2020, 01:08:39 PM
Technically, the southern end for US-223 is at Monroe St. in Sylvania, OH. OH-184 & OH-51 both end on the east side of the overpass. The end sign for US-223 is on the exit ramp, on the west side of the overpass, making the exit ramp part of US-223.
Actually US-223 ends while it is still co-signed with US-23. It's pointless to have this as a US highway though and pretty obvious that Ohio has no desire to extend it since they end it at the first possible chance they get. Only reason it is concurrent with US-23 is so that it can cross the border since it would fall well short of the 300 miles required for a US highway to be in a single state so it crosses the border and ends. Honestly no one even realizes that they are on US-223 at all and it should be M-223 and run between US-127 and US-23.
US 220 ends at a county road in New York. Or at least it used to extend beyond NY 17, it may have been truncated a few feet south.
Quote from: hbelkins on August 28, 2020, 06:39:15 PM
US 220 ends at a county road in New York. Or at least it used to extend beyond NY 17, it may have been truncated a few feet south.
It was truncated back to I-86 a couple years ago, and I believe no longer enters the state of New York as that's where 86 clips into Pennsylvania.
Don't believe I've seen on this thread yet...
US 92 west end
US 69-96-287 south end
US 78 west end
US 45 north end
US 258 north end
US 21 south end (secondary)
US 80 east (secondary)
US 76 east (secondary)
US 70 east (secondary)
In Michigan
US-12 ends at Cass Ave in Downtown Detroit.
Before being truncated to the KY-OH line, US-25 ended at the Jct of M-25 and M-53.
The other end of US 69
The southern end of US 271
US 169 ends at a Tulsa city street
U304AA
Quote from: Mapmikey on August 28, 2020, 09:42:01 PM
Don't believe I've seen on this thread yet...
US 92 west end
US 69-96-287 south end
US 78 west end
US 45 north end
US 258 north end
US 21 south end (secondary)
US 80 east (secondary)
US 76 east (secondary)
US 70 east (secondary)
US 78 doesn't end at US 64-70-79 somewhere?
Quote from: -- US 175 -- on August 29, 2020, 07:23:26 AM
US 78 doesn't end at US 64-70-79 somewhere?
It ends at TN 14, which I think was once US 64-70-79. I apologize in advance, but somebody in the road community (Froggie?) created this map maybe 10 or 15 years ago. I don't know if it is still accurate today, but it probably is.
Has US 72 always ended at US 51?
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50281725136_b51fe01eed_z.jpg)
US 50 ends at MD 528
A few more from the Northeast that no one else has covered yet:
* US 30, US 40, and US 322 all end at local streets in Atlantic City.
* US 50 ends at MD 528.
* US 301 ends at DE 1 (a relatively recent development).
Quote from: bugo on August 29, 2020, 07:53:11 AM
Quote from: -- US 175 -- on August 29, 2020, 07:23:26 AM
US 78 doesn't end at US 64-70-79 somewhere?
It ends at TN 14, which I think was once US 64-70-79. I apologize in advance, but somebody in the road community (Froggie?) created this map maybe 10 or 15 years ago. I don't know if it is still accurate today, but it probably is.
Has US 72 always ended at US 51?
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50281725136_b51fe01eed_z.jpg)
I don’t think that’s right anymore. I was just in Memphis, and it looks like if Danny Thomas Blvd south of Union Ave was ever any state or US route, it probably isn’t anymore. US 64/70/79 appear to follow the 2nd-3rd/BB King one-way pair (marked as TN 14 on that map) to connect between Crump and Union. Here’s a sign at the northbound right turn from BB King to Union (https://goo.gl/maps/mVr1GT4vjtPgXJYdA).
Tennessee cities are notorious for having badly marked US highways. You can't really rely on them to be correct.
Quote from: bugo on August 29, 2020, 10:35:31 AM
Tennessee cities are notorious for having badly marked US highways.
That I noticed. But in the absence of a detailed Tennessee route log or something similar (does that exist?), I feel like we have to go with what limited signage does exist over a 15 year old map. There are multiple (https://goo.gl/maps/gaeUsUyWNWosfCWV8) sign (https://goo.gl/maps/KB8M8PMqyR7Eo1uX6) assemblies (https://goo.gl/maps/PMfhd3Rzg1QBtajw7) that (https://goo.gl/maps/bXZVAQy6ZmauazRs5) show (https://goo.gl/maps/RAR6hk2UPF3EvdJk6) a route (https://goo.gl/maps/JGJX3Xop9aVVaJ5z7) along 2nd/3rd, while no signs of any sort exist on Danny Thomas south of Union.
Quote from: Mapmikey on August 28, 2020, 09:42:01 PM
Don't believe I've seen on this thread yet...
US 45 north end
US45 extends a bit farther north of M-38/64, ending in downtown Ontonagon. There's even an end marker there now, erected in 2018! (There wasn't one before.)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50227599171_b849661d7e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jwrzka)
MI-US45NT (https://flic.kr/p/2jwrzka) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
US-180 ends at AZ-64 in Valle
Quote from: cwf1701 on August 28, 2020, 10:03:52 PM
In Michigan
US-12 ends at Cass Ave in Downtown Detroit.
Before being truncated to the KY-OH line, US-25 ended at the Jct of M-25 and M-53.
Cass isn't a state highway.
Quote from: Mapmikey on August 28, 2020, 09:42:01 PM
Don't believe I've seen on this thread yet...
US 45 north end
That's because it doesn't end at a state highway. It ends at Ontonagon Street, about a block before River Street (the street it's on) dead ends.
Quote from: US 89 on August 29, 2020, 10:52:18 AM
Quote from: bugo on August 29, 2020, 10:35:31 AM
Tennessee cities are notorious for having badly marked US highways.
That I noticed. But in the absence of a detailed Tennessee route log or something similar (does that exist?), I feel like we have to go with what limited signage does exist over a 15 year old map. There are multiple (https://goo.gl/maps/gaeUsUyWNWosfCWV8) sign (https://goo.gl/maps/KB8M8PMqyR7Eo1uX6) assemblies (https://goo.gl/maps/PMfhd3Rzg1QBtajw7) that (https://goo.gl/maps/bXZVAQy6ZmauazRs5) show (https://goo.gl/maps/RAR6hk2UPF3EvdJk6) a route (https://goo.gl/maps/JGJX3Xop9aVVaJ5z7) along 2nd/3rd, while no signs of any sort exist on Danny Thomas south of Union.
This TDOT Shelby County map (https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/tdot/maps/county-maps-(us-shields)/o-w/Shelby%20County.pdf) clearly shows Danny Thomas between Crump and Union as a state route, though the level of detail in downtown Memphis prevents identification of specific route numbers. Though there's no date on the map, it's being made via GIS and the presence of I-269 on the eastern edge both indicate it's less than 5 years old.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on August 29, 2020, 11:25:42 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on August 28, 2020, 09:42:01 PM
Don't believe I've seen on this thread yet...
US 45 north end
US45 extends a bit farther north of M-38/64, ending in downtown Ontonagon. There's even an end marker there now, erected in 2018! (There wasn't one before.)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50227599171_b849661d7e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jwrzka)
MI-US45NT (https://flic.kr/p/2jwrzka) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
In the other direction before US-45 starts there has been a sign that says TO SOUTH US-45 with an arrow pointing straight. Without going to look I think it's right above the stop sign for Ontonagon Street. M-64 use to end where US-45 does coming in from the other direction across the river.
US 197 ends at WA 14.
Oregon has no examples of this. All the US highways with ends in the state (US 20, 26, 30, 197, 199, 730) end at US and/or interstate routes.
Quote from: froggie on August 29, 2020, 11:36:52 AM
Quote from: US 89 on August 29, 2020, 10:52:18 AM
Quote from: bugo on August 29, 2020, 10:35:31 AM
Tennessee cities are notorious for having badly marked US highways.
That I noticed. But in the absence of a detailed Tennessee route log or something similar (does that exist?), I feel like we have to go with what limited signage does exist over a 15 year old map. There are multiple (https://goo.gl/maps/gaeUsUyWNWosfCWV8) sign (https://goo.gl/maps/KB8M8PMqyR7Eo1uX6) assemblies (https://goo.gl/maps/PMfhd3Rzg1QBtajw7) that (https://goo.gl/maps/bXZVAQy6ZmauazRs5) show (https://goo.gl/maps/RAR6hk2UPF3EvdJk6) a route (https://goo.gl/maps/JGJX3Xop9aVVaJ5z7) along 2nd/3rd, while no signs of any sort exist on Danny Thomas south of Union.
This TDOT Shelby County map (https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/tdot/maps/county-maps-(us-shields)/o-w/Shelby%20County.pdf) clearly shows Danny Thomas between Crump and Union as a state route, though the level of detail in downtown Memphis prevents identification of specific route numbers. Though there's no date on the map, it's being made via GIS and the presence of I-269 on the eastern edge both indicate it's less than 5 years old.
This is from the Dec 2018 Functional Classification Map of Memphis which shows US 78 continuing to TN 14 and US 64-70-79 on Danny Thomas...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vahighways.com%2Fmem2018.jpg&hash=9eda758366a2df250924a376d766f548b6516ae4)
QuoteHas US 72 always ended at US 51?
US 72 has ended at US 51 since about 1995. Prior to that it ended at East Parkway back to the 1930s (using Poplar at first then Union).
Interestingly, US 72 shields used to appear:
----eastbound Crump leaving Riverside - - https://memphislibrary.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p13039dc/id/345
Zoom way in and 5 US route shields are clearly visible and the bottom one is clearly a US 72 shield. The factory building on the left is still there.
-----also at US 78's west endpoint. Here is a 1960 picture of 3rd leaving MLK Blvd - https://memphislibrary.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p13039dc/id/1177
The building to the right of those shields is still there.
Quote from: Flint1979 on August 28, 2020, 03:14:08 PM
Quote from: JCinSummerfield on August 28, 2020, 01:08:39 PM
Technically, the southern end for US-223 is at Monroe St. in Sylvania, OH. OH-184 & OH-51 both end on the east side of the overpass. The end sign for US-223 is on the exit ramp, on the west side of the overpass, making the exit ramp part of US-223.
Actually US-223 ends while it is still co-signed with US-23. It's pointless to have this as a US highway though and pretty obvious that Ohio has no desire to extend it since they end it at the first possible chance they get. Only reason it is concurrent with US-23 is so that it can cross the border since it would fall well short of the 300 miles required for a US highway to be in a single state so it crosses the border and ends. Honestly no one even realizes that they are on US-223 at all and it should be M-223 and run between US-127 and US-23.
If you get off on the first exit in Ohio when southbound on US-23, there is a "223 ends" sign at the end of the exit ramp. Whether the exit ramp is officially part of US-223, or the sign was modified with the removing of an arrow and replaced with an end sign when it was truncated, I won't argue. But the fact is, the sign is there.
Quote from: Flint1979 on August 29, 2020, 11:34:25 AM
Quote from: cwf1701 on August 28, 2020, 10:03:52 PM
In Michigan
US-12 ends at Cass Ave in Downtown Detroit.
Before being truncated to the KY-OH line, US-25 ended at the Jct of M-25 and M-53.
Cass isn't a state highway.
I thought US 12/Michigan Ave ended at Woodward Ave, which is M-1.
Quote from: KCRoadFan on August 31, 2020, 04:37:02 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on August 29, 2020, 11:34:25 AM
Quote from: cwf1701 on August 28, 2020, 10:03:52 PM
In Michigan
US-12 ends at Cass Ave in Downtown Detroit.
Before being truncated to the KY-OH line, US-25 ended at the Jct of M-25 and M-53.
Cass isn't a state highway.
I thought US 12/Michigan Ave ended at Woodward Ave, which is M-1.
Michigan ends at Woodward but US-12 ends at Cass Avenue. It use to end at Campus Martius but was shortened to end at Griswold Street then a few years later shortened again to end at Cass, about 15-20 years ago.
US-212's eastern terminus ends at MN-62
And lest we forget... US-1's southern terminus ends at even lesser roads...city streets! 😄
Quote from: DJ Particle on September 01, 2020, 12:55:16 AM
US-212's eastern terminus ends at MN-62
And lest we forget... US-1's southern terminus ends at even lesser roads...city streets! 😄
I always considered 212's east end to be at 169 and Crosstown together, even though 169 and 212 don't meet themselves.
Quote from: Flint1979 on August 31, 2020, 05:13:02 PM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on August 31, 2020, 04:37:02 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on August 29, 2020, 11:34:25 AM
Quote from: cwf1701 on August 28, 2020, 10:03:52 PM
In Michigan
US-12 ends at Cass Ave in Downtown Detroit.
Before being truncated to the KY-OH line, US-25 ended at the Jct of M-25 and M-53.
Cass isn't a state highway.
I thought US 12/Michigan Ave ended at Woodward Ave, which is M-1.
Michigan ends at Woodward but US-12 ends at Cass Avenue. It use to end at Campus Martius but was shortened to end at Griswold Street then a few years later shortened again to end at Cass, about 15-20 years ago.
And Woodward Ave isn't M-1 at the intersection with Michigan Ave. See the State "proposed" map (they've been put into effect except for the extension of M-1 south) as presented on Chris Bessert's site:
http://michiganhighways.org/etc/campusmartiusexhibit2.pdf
Quote from: GaryV on September 01, 2020, 08:53:31 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on August 31, 2020, 05:13:02 PM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on August 31, 2020, 04:37:02 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on August 29, 2020, 11:34:25 AM
Quote from: cwf1701 on August 28, 2020, 10:03:52 PM
In Michigan
US-12 ends at Cass Ave in Downtown Detroit.
Before being truncated to the KY-OH line, US-25 ended at the Jct of M-25 and M-53.
Cass isn't a state highway.
I thought US 12/Michigan Ave ended at Woodward Ave, which is M-1.
Michigan ends at Woodward but US-12 ends at Cass Avenue. It use to end at Campus Martius but was shortened to end at Griswold Street then a few years later shortened again to end at Cass, about 15-20 years ago.
And Woodward Ave isn't M-1 at the intersection with Michigan Ave. See the State "proposed" map (they've been put into effect except for the extension of M-1 south) as presented on Chris Bessert's site:
http://michiganhighways.org/etc/campusmartiusexhibit2.pdf
That's true. M-1 ends at Adams on the north end of Grand Circus Park. It use to go all the way to Jefferson but Woodward doesn't even end at Jefferson anymore it ends a block north at Larned Street due to the Spirit of Detroit Plaza being built. About 20 years ago MDOT wanted to transfer some highways from their control to city control much like INDOT is doing in Indiana and like MDOT did with M-43 in Kalamazoo. So this is basically the reason that US-12 ends at Cass and M-1 ends at Adams.