I was just watching the end of Cold Case tonight. And at the end, they show a "special" mileage sign that they must have created for that shot.
It was a mileage sign for South I-95. And it included a really fuggly I-95 shield in it. And it was hideous. If Jake saw it, he might have a heart attack. lol.
So, has anybody else seen fuggly highway shields (Interstates; US Highways; or State Highways) on any other TV shows lately?
another good reason for me to not watch TV :sombrero:
One of the local Atlanta news stations, when doing the morning traffic report, used a U.S. 400 shield for Georgia 400. :-(
Be well,
Bryant
I'm surprised we have never had a thread on that. You see signage screw ups all the time in TV or movies. Either prop people getting a sign wrong, or just an unintentional shot of, say, an Alabama state route marker when they are filming a show there but its set in Tennessee.
We had a movie shoot a few years ago. In McDowell County, WV of all places (middle of nowhere place where the depression has never ended). Anyway, they had the DOT make up some circle route markers (WV uses a square for state routes, a circle for county ones) and resigned a stretch of highway because the movie was set in Kentucky (which uses a circle for state routes). All for a 90 second scene where the route signs were just in the background. I dare say half of the people that would have noticed post here.
The worst one I ever saw was not really in a show. It is on a ride at Disney World. Duplicate of one in California. Has California style route markers with "Florida" for the state name.
Every once in a while on South Park, they show an Interstate 285 shield somewhere in the desert in the southwestern U.S.
I have actually seen shows that take place mostly on car chases on highways that never show one sign, not even a state road or US marker. Smokey and the Bandit and CHIPS are primary examples. I imagine Ponch and Jon did their patrol on I-5 but there was no sign to state that.
QuoteEvery once in a while on South Park, they show an Interstate 285 shield somewhere in the desert in the southwestern U.S.
At least they got the 285 part right- South Park is on US-285 (er- I guess technically SH-9, but 285 is the road right outside of town!)
This has always been one of my pet peeves about TV shows and movies-fake shields and signs. It seems like fake signs are more common than real ones. I realize sometimes the real signs aren't in the right place for what they need and the road they are shooting on isn't the road it's supposed to be, but why is it so hard to just go down the real highway and get the real sign? Any movie or TV show that uses real signs gets a thumbs up from me.
What probably bugs me even more is when the place they shoot scenes at is so obviously not the place it's supposed to be. The worst example of this I can think of this was a very short-lived series called "Drive" a few years ago which had to do with a road race around the US. The main character is said at one point to be driving on I-75 somewhere around Gainesville, FL-and there are very clearly mountains in the background. It was obviously shot in California, but couldn't they at least find a shot that didn't make it so obvious it wasn't in Florida?
Ha, Ha, Ha. Perhaps there is a reason why "Drive" was short-lived.
Quote from: huskeroadgeek on May 03, 2010, 01:53:57 PM
This has always been one of my pet peeves about TV shows and movies-fake shields and signs. It seems like fake signs are more common than real ones. I realize sometimes the real signs aren't in the right place for what they need and the road they are shooting on isn't the road it's supposed to be, but why is it so hard to just go down the real highway and get the real sign? Any movie or TV show that uses real signs gets a thumbs up from me.
What probably bugs me even more is when the place they shoot scenes at is so obviously not the place it's supposed to be. The worst example of this I can think of this was a very short-lived series called "Drive" a few years ago which had to do with a road race around the US. The main character is said at one point to be driving on I-75 somewhere around Gainesville, FL-and there are very clearly mountains in the background. It was obviously shot in California, but couldn't they at least find a shot that didn't make it so obvious it wasn't in Florida?
If I remember correctly, that show had a 1 or 2 mile stretch of freeway in California that they filmed the entire show on. Even the route between Key West and Miami was a 4-lane freeway in the mountains!
Quote from: corco on May 03, 2010, 01:36:34 PM
QuoteEvery once in a while on South Park, they show an Interstate 285 shield somewhere in the desert in the southwestern U.S.
At least they got the 285 part right- South Park is on US-285 (er- I guess technically SH-9, but 285 is the road right outside of town!)
And also, South Park has I-570!!
^Methinks South Park does it deliberately.
Another bit that shows and movies do that really irks me: Routing.
This example is from Untraceable, set and shot in Portland. The main character works downtown, lives in the Irvington neighborhood (NE Portland, just north of the Lloyd District), crosses the Broadway Bridge to go home. Ok, fine. Why then would you get onto I-84 east when the next exit on I-84 is east of Irvington?
It's usually bad enough that when shows or movies get it right, I really appreciate it. The fact that they got the US 66 / I-40 thing "basically right" in Cars only added to my enjoyment of that movie.
Quote from: leifvanderwall on May 03, 2010, 01:23:33 PM
I have actually seen shows that take place mostly on car chases on highways that never show one sign, not even a state road or US marker. Smokey and the Bandit and CHIPS are primary examples. I imagine Ponch and Jon did their patrol on I-5 but there was no sign to state that.
Actually a lot of the freeway scenes on "CHIPS" were shot on a finished but not-yet-opened stretch of I-210 (right by where it meets California 118) near Pacoima and Sylmar, California, in the San Fernando Valley.
Quote from: RustyK on May 04, 2010, 10:56:51 AM
It's usually bad enough that when shows or movies get it right, I really appreciate it. The fact that they got the US 66 / I-40 thing "basically right" in Cars only added to my enjoyment of that movie.
And they had a button copy US-66 shield! :thumbsup:
Quote from: RustyK on May 04, 2010, 10:56:51 AM
It's usually bad enough that when shows or movies get it right, I really appreciate it. The fact that they got the US 66 / I-40 thing "basically right" in Cars only added to my enjoyment of that movie.
The highway junction scene early in the movie, just after leaving "Speedway of the South" which is based on Bristol Motor Speedway, shows IIRC I-24 and I-40 and a lot of other highways that are in or around Nashville (US 41, 231, 431). Not 100% correct, but still a "cartoon" has better signage than most live action shows/movies.
Quote from: mightyace on May 04, 2010, 08:10:54 PM
Quote from: RustyK on May 04, 2010, 10:56:51 AM
It's usually bad enough that when shows or movies get it right, I really appreciate it. The fact that they got the US 66 / I-40 thing "basically right" in Cars only added to my enjoyment of that movie.
The highway junction scene early in the movie, just after leaving "Speedway of the South" which is based on Bristol Motor Speedway, shows IIRC I-24 and I-40 and a lot of other highways that are in or around Nashville (US 41, 231, 431). Not 100% correct, but still a "cartoon" has better signage than most live action shows/movies.
Yeah, I do recall I-24 and I-40. Not sure of what US routes. Anyways, I have the DVD and I'll check it out later and see exactly which ones they show in that section of the movie.
^^^
I watch it on BluRay recently and looked over that section, but since I did not write it down, I may be mistaken.
I also seem to recall that the US 41 BGS also had a "WEST" on it instead of a North or South.
don't forget the US-8/US-395 multiplex in Back to the Future! :-D
Quote from: SP Cook on May 03, 2010, 07:42:52 AM
I'm surprised we have never had a thread on that. You see signage screw ups all the time in TV or movies. Either prop people getting a sign wrong, or just an unintentional shot of, say, an Alabama state route marker when they are filming a show there but its set in Tennessee.
We had a movie shoot a few years ago. In McDowell County, WV of all places (middle of nowhere place where the depression has never ended). Anyway, they had the DOT make up some circle route markers (WV uses a square for state routes, a circle for county ones) and resigned a stretch of highway because the movie was set in Kentucky (which uses a circle for state routes). All for a 90 second scene where the route signs were just in the background. I dare say half of the people that would have noticed post here.
Do you remember what movie? I'd rent it just to see.
"Fire Down Below," the Steven Seagal movie, was set and filmed in Eastern Kentucky. One of the aerial shots shows Seagal driving along KY 15 in Knott County, beside Carr Fork Lake.
There's a scene in the movie that shows someone driving through a set of highway markers. They aren't real Kentucky highway signs but were a reasonable approximation. The signs were for KY 80 and KY 476 and if you pause the movie just right, you can get a good look at them as they tumble over. The scene was shot at the intersection of those two routes in Perry County.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 04, 2010, 08:48:47 PM
don't forget the US-8/US-395 multiplex in Back to the Future! :-D
In 1955 AND in 1985!
Usually highway shields are pretty much the least of the director and producers worries, sad but true...
BigMatt
Quote from: topay on May 05, 2010, 07:32:49 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 04, 2010, 08:48:47 PM
don't forget the US-8/US-395 multiplex in Back to the Future! :-D
In 1955 AND in 1985!
Does it show up in 2015 as well? I don't remember seeing it in that scene, but I may have to watch the second Back to the Future movie again to make sure...
In this past Sunday's "Treme" episode, Sonny was making was way to Houston. The show took I-10 east at the 610 split and changed the "New Orleans Business District" sign to "Baton Rouge". The "I-610 East Slidell" sign was not altered.
Then in "Deja Vu", producers changed all signs in New Orleans saying "I-10 West Baton Rouge" to "I-10 West Bayou Bouef".
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Quote from: realjd on May 03, 2010, 10:27:17 PM
Quote from: huskeroadgeek on May 03, 2010, 01:53:57 PM
This has always been one of my pet peeves about TV shows and movies-fake shields and signs. It seems like fake signs are more common than real ones. I realize sometimes the real signs aren't in the right place for what they need and the road they are shooting on isn't the road it's supposed to be, but why is it so hard to just go down the real highway and get the real sign? Any movie or TV show that uses real signs gets a thumbs up from me.
What probably bugs me even more is when the place they shoot scenes at is so obviously not the place it's supposed to be. The worst example of this I can think of this was a very short-lived series called "Drive" a few years ago which had to do with a road race around the US. The main character is said at one point to be driving on I-75 somewhere around Gainesville, FL-and there are very clearly mountains in the background. It was obviously shot in California, but couldn't they at least find a shot that didn't make it so obvious it wasn't in Florida?
If I remember correctly, that show had a 1 or 2 mile stretch of freeway in California that they filmed the entire show on. Even the route between Key West and Miami was a 4-lane freeway in the mountains!
Only if sea levels drop drastically!
When Taking Woodstock was filmed in New Lebanon, NY, in 2008, they went to the trouble of putting up some accurate signs:
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This was taken along US 20, nowhere near NY 17B or NY 55.
Quote from: algorerhythms on May 06, 2010, 10:28:08 AM
Quote from: topay on May 05, 2010, 07:32:49 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 04, 2010, 08:48:47 PM
don't forget the US-8/US-395 multiplex in Back to the Future! :-D
In 1955 AND in 1985!
Does it show up in 2015 as well? I don't remember seeing it in that scene, but I may have to watch the second Back to the Future movie again to make sure...
I think you're right. I did notice there were still pavement markings in 2015, but I do not remember seeing the US Route shields.
Now, if the US Routes were in Hill Valley in 1885, then we'd really be talking!
Quote from: Jim on May 06, 2010, 01:39:41 PM
When Taking Woodstock was filmed in New Lebanon, NY, in 2008, they went to the trouble of putting up some accurate signs:
Almost accurate signs. The NY-55 appears to be in Clearview.
Quote from: Brandon on May 06, 2010, 04:22:02 PM
Quote from: Jim on May 06, 2010, 01:39:41 PM
When Taking Woodstock was filmed in New Lebanon, NY, in 2008, they went to the trouble of putting up some accurate signs:
Almost accurate signs. The NY-55 appears to be in Clearview.
I think the 17B is, too.
Quote from: WNYroadgeek on May 07, 2010, 01:08:23 AM
Quote from: Brandon on May 06, 2010, 04:22:02 PM
Quote from: Jim on May 06, 2010, 01:39:41 PM
When Taking Woodstock was filmed in New Lebanon, NY, in 2008, they went to the trouble of putting up some accurate signs:
Almost accurate signs. The NY-55 appears to be in Clearview.
I think the 17B is, too.
Nope. The "1" is FHWA font, as is the "7". The "B" may be another story.
the reason the 17B looks a tad wonky is that the font has been stretched horizontally a small amount, yielding different thicknesses for the horizontal and vertical strokes.
Well, this isn't a T.V. show -- it's just a package store. The store's on U.S. 29/Roosevelt Highway.
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Palmetto, Fulton County, Ga.
Be well,
Bryant
I would really like to know who first invented that awful shield shape. It takes a certain effort to distort the regular shield shape to that, so who bothered??
There's an episode of In the Heat Of the Night in which Chief Gillespie takes a trip to the Gulf Coast. In that episode, there's a mileage sign for Biloxi, Ocean Springs and Pascagoula (in that order). If you've driven that stretch of eastbound US 90, you know the sign. Anyhow, while the cities and mileage where correct, the placement was wrong. It showed the beach on the left side of the screen. If you're driving eastbound to Pascagoula, the beach would be on your right.
^^
I remember that episode you're talking about, the one where I think his daughter Lana's mother, Georgia, died. (I look at this show every weekday on WGN America and Peachtree TV, lol.) Anywhoo, I didn't pay any attention to that, but now that you mention it...
Be well,
Bryant
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 07, 2010, 09:46:32 PM
I would really like to know who first invented that awful shield shape. It takes a certain effort to distort the regular shield shape to that, so who bothered??
Don't get me started. I don't want to start scanning newspaper maps and advertising 'maps'. Needless to say, my cartographic sensibilities are offended every time. These abominations make bubble shields look legit, and we've already covered
that debate.
Ah, in Midnight Club 3: DUB Remix on PS2, 1 of the locations is set in Atlanta. It shows an I-75 shield on an overhead BGS on an overpass.
In Need For Speed Undercover, it shows I-27 and US 99 in the same city.
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In addition to the observations others have made, the tab borders are just wrong--too much white outside the black inner borders, corner radii are not correct, etc.
Just rewatched Back to the Future 2. No US-8 or US-395 shields, though apparently the flying highway is Skyway C25.
Quote from: algorerhythms on May 09, 2010, 12:11:46 AM
Just rewatched Back to the Future 2. No US-8 or US-395 shields, though apparently the flying highway is Skyway C25.
Hell yeah!
Just 5 more years till flying cars & Mr. Fusion.
I can't wait!
Quote from: Mr_Northside on May 10, 2010, 11:18:37 AM
Quote from: algorerhythms on May 09, 2010, 12:11:46 AM
Just rewatched Back to the Future 2. No US-8 or US-395 shields, though apparently the flying highway is Skyway C25.
Hell yeah!
Just 5 more years till flying cars & Mr. Fusion.
I can't wait!
Yep! :clap: I so want to fly over Mt. Washington. :-D
On the 'Knight Rider' pilot, there is a button-copy BGS stating "Millston Airport" with an arrow and a circle-like SR shield with a 5 in it, on the top right of the sign. Considering they were filming in the California (and the general Southwest) desert, the closest SR-as-a-circle state is Oklahoma.
^That could be an example of trying to show their work, though the desert environs tends to throw that off.
As mentioned earlier, Cars was really good with route signage. They even used the right fonts! Here's some screenshots, with my comments below each picture:
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The first overhead BGS leaving the first race, with a few diagrammatics.
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A center-mounted and side-mounted BGS. The shield on the left BGS looks like New Jersey with the non-cutout. Also, note the cutout on the right post of the right sign.
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The second overhead BGS with both a NJ and CA shield. The cut-off overhead in the background just has an I-40 shield and "California" as a control city.
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The truck stop exit that Mack wants to rest at. The Exit Advisory Speed sign is black on white, not black on yellow.
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Why do both directions blink yellow?!
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I've never seen "End Construction Zone" signs on diamonds before.
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The Radiator Springs exit is the first roadgeek related thing I noticed in Cars (that and the cutout US-66 shield).
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Historic US 66 sign just outside of Radiator Springs
damn, that Historic US 66 shield is better than 90% of what is posted on the route these days.
as for the advisory speed of 25 - that looks like an inverse of the 1929-1962 California speed limit sign. It was black with white legend.
you can see one in the middle here:
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that is the very first one (1929-1932), as it has no glass cateyes, and the auto club logo and AUTOMOBILE CLUB SOUTHERN CALIF. spelled out at the bottom. Later ones added reflectors (1932), dropped the spelled-out verbiage (1934), and then the logo (1956). I'd say the photo is 1931 or so, as the STOP sign has cateyes but the others do not.
In 1962, California switched to the federal standard, with SPEED and LIMIT on two lines, and then the number underneath. However, the signs remained black with white legend until 1971.
I seem to recall there being a button-copy "TO I-40" assembly in Cars as well. I believe it was prominently shown in a scene where McQueen was on the edge of town, debating whether to stay or move on.
Someone on MTR said once that a curio shop along in town has a bunch of 66-related signs on the front of it, including a K-66 shield, but it's not really visible in the actual film.
There's a button copy US-66 shield right after McQueen catches the truck he think's is his hauler. Don't recall any button copy I-40 shields.
You ever noticed this about TV and movies? Whether its a part of the plot (where it can be overlooked) or just a casual element of the show, Hollywood seems unaware of the rural interstate. The typical real world trip involves traveling from you local area to an interstate (or equlivant), driving for a very long distance on that road, and then perhaps a short distance from the interstate to your destination. Any services needed along the way will be provided by chain companies which are similar across the nation in reasonable clean and organized surroundings.
However, in Hollywood, people still travel like it was 1945. Long distances on non-interstate four and two lanes, speed trap hick towns, and roadside services provided by an assortment of hicks, oddballs and people unaware of and untouched by much of anything that has happened in the last 60 years.
Sometimes, as I said, a plot device, but often not. Happened, for example on the most recent Two and a Half Men. Perhaps symptomatic of many in Hollywood, like many in larger cities, never traveling much by road.
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Here's this card i randomly found on the internet. Good map, but the I-95 shield has the wrong colors in the wrong places.
It's also wrong: There's no gap in New Jersey (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbickenland.lonaf.com%2FphpBB2%2Fimages%2Fsmiles%2Fbigass.gif&hash=a0537da6e42415524d22588bdea05b394507955c)
How big is the gap?
Quote from: Michael on May 23, 2010, 10:39:27 PM
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Why do both directions blink yellow?!
All sides blink yellow because the side street (or in some cases, all ways) probably has a yield. There are a few intersections in the northeast with flasher beacons with that story including this one on US 1/ME 3 at ME 172 in Ellsworth, ME:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Ellsworth,+ME&sll=43.561657,-71.175721&sspn=0.007603,0.019205&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Ellsworth,+Hancock,+Maine&ll=44.539529,-68.428152&spn=0,0.019205&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=44.539589,-68.428064&panoid=ysp2AqB6TXN_vzCG2mMthw&cbp=12,215.82,,0,1.08
Also, that 4-way signal looks a lot like the Crouse Hinds type D:
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I once saw a music video for a song by John Mellencamp with supposed Indiana State route shields in the background that were shaped like New York cutouts.
This isn't directly related to this thread as this isn't a TV show... but it should be fairly easy to spot the messed up highway shields in this map of central Oklahoma from the Norman Transcript (http://normantranscript.com/archive/x336268780).
Oh, God, it burns... so does the misspelled map title...
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 25, 2010, 08:35:52 PM
Oh, God, it burns... so does the misspelled map title...
Heh. I hadn't noticed the misspelled title...
I havent seen it in years, but i recall an old flick tilted "The Gumball Rally" (which led to Burt Reynold's Cannonball Run movies) showing some of the competitors racing what was supposedly I-80 in Illinois (well, the shield said "Interstate I-80")......somehow, i must have also missed school the day they taught us about the sagebrush/desert environment of Illinois...
Don't forget in the movie National Lampoon's Vegas Vacation where the family is driving back to Chicago and there is a distance sign for Chicago (showing 1600 miles or so). Plus the fact that it looks like they are traveling SOUTH on I-15!
I know this is an old thread (I searched for a newer one on this subject but didn't find one), but when watching the Weather Channel earlier I saw a doozy of an example: they showed a highway camera for a road that was obviously not a freeway, and announced that it was I-60 near Covington, VA...
Weather channel in my area shows US 82 crossing through Sherman and Gainesville as US 80
I finally saw, via YouTube, the TV miniseries of Stephen King's "The Stand". There is a scene when they're heading to Nebraska with a US 49 West shield. To their credit though, they did have a proper Arkansas state shield for a scene that took place there.
The book did something similar. They referenced an article in the LA Times about the Army quarantines on US 5, US 15, and US 10. Me thinks they meant to use "I".
I remember one scene in "Smallville" where there was a Kansas 90 shield that was a state outline.
Quote from: Bickendan on May 04, 2010, 12:48:03 AMAnother bit that shows and movies do that really irks me: Routing.
This example is from Untraceable, set and shot in Portland...
Bandits was a good example of a movie filmed and set in Portland where in one particular scene where the woman goes into a panic, she is supposed to be driving somewhere - but she drives in a wild circle that includes scenes from the Broadway Bridge, Lloyd Boulevard, streets in downtown, and the junction of McLoughlin Boulevard and Johnson Creek Boulevard - multiple times in the same driving scene.
Then again, the "Bandits" break out of the "Oregon State Prison" and are chased by sheriffs' deputies whose vehicles are painted very closely to Clackamas County Sheriffs' vehicles. (The Oregon State Penitentary is located in Marion County.)
In the past two weeks, Wheel of Fortune had their Road Trip Across America shows and there was a CA-style US 63 shield on the set, plus some other goofball signs.
In the Blues Brothers there are so many scene goofs it's not funny.
When Joliet Jake is released from prison In Joliet, the boys go to visit "the Penguin" at the orphanage in Calumet City. The bridge jump scene on the way was on the 95th St Bridge (bridge plaque is shown for a second) over the Calumet River. So instead of taking I-80 East which would have been logical, they go over 10 miles out of the way. But that's not the worst bit about that particular trip. Still before they arrive, they somehow end up on the Chicago Skyway heading WEST! There is another scene shot that shows the skyline with a I-90 West sign. All before getting to Cal City.
The other major flaw is from the time the boys escape the Palace Hotel Ballroom to when they dump the car in front of the Cook County Building. According to Elwood, the Palace Hotel is on Hwy 16 in Lake Wazapumantee (sp?) which is a fictional place (fine). He also says before the big chase starts, that "It's 106 miles to Chicago...". So I guess one is to believe this place is somewhere in the area of Lake Geneva/Oconomowoc/Waukesha WI. (fine) The boys are traveling "southbound on Route 47" (which is obviously an Interstate). Route 47 besides not being an interstate, is still a good 50 miles west of Downtown Chicago. Again bad sense of direction. Then when they finally reach the first "Chicago shot", they somehow get onto Lake Shore Dr heading north where the 23rd St exit used to be (now part of McCormick Place). So they are coming into the city on the southside of the Loop. On Lower Wacker, Elwood says, "We should be passing the honorable Richard J Daley Plaza" to which Jake replies "That's where they got the Picasso." "Yup." Well if you are on ANY part of Lower Wacker, you miss Daley Plaza by blocks. They cross the Chicago River (that's the drawbridge) heading SOUTH. They turn left (EAST) at Washington St causing a massive Police car pileup (my dad worked in the building on the left known as the Ameritech Building in the 1990s as they turn that's how I know it is Washington). Then as they end up ditching the police, the Illinois Nazis start to chase them. From the time that starts until the Nazis fall off the bridge, you can tell that part of the chase was shot in Milwaukee. The street signs were black on yellow which Milwaukee used until sometime in the mid 1980s. The bridge the Nazis fly off was at the time, the unfinished part of I-794 East going to Lincoln Memorial Dr North. When the Nazis finally do crash into the street, the street signs change back to white on green.
I still love the movie but someone did not do their homework at all.
Quote from: florida on May 06, 2012, 02:16:56 AM
In the past two weeks, Wheel of Fortune had their Road Trip Across America shows and there was a CA-style US 63 shield on the set, plus some other goofball signs.
I noticed a few of these as well. I think one of them was a California state-named "I-50" shield...
Quote from: hobsini2 on May 06, 2012, 05:18:13 AM
I still love the movie but someone did not do their homework at all.
If someone had done their homework, the movie would not have been as absurdly funny. (See Blues Brothers 2000)
The thing that always fractured me about "106 miles to Chicago" is that with Elwood driving at breakneck speed to get there, it still took them 8 hours to arrive.
If the show started at midnight, even 1 am to allow for them sneaking into the building, and they play 3 songs, plus talk to Carrie Fisher, at the very latest they leave at 2am. The Cook County Assessor's office can't open until 8 or 9, and with the "back in 5 minutes" sign on the door, that would indicate that the office has been open for a little while.
So, does it really take 6 hours to get there without any traffic present, even with all the detours they take around roadblocks/Illinois Nazis?
The movie "Mr Brooks" was filmed in Shreveport. However, it took place in Portland. There is a scene where Kevin Costner's title character is driving on a freeway, and the exit signs are all for exits on IH 20 in Shreveport like Jewella and Hearne Ave. If I remember correctly, a couple of the signs shown display the shields for US 79/80 or US 171, but I don't remember.
So, in truth, the movie got the highway shields exactly as they are in real life. :meh:
Quote from: Michael on May 23, 2010, 10:39:27 PM
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"Convertible Waitresses"? I've seen Cars about twenty times, and never caught that one! :-D
Quote from: formulanone on May 10, 2012, 04:13:07 PM
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"Convertible Waitresses"? I've seen Cars about twenty times, and never caught that one! :-D
I just told all my best friends that (most have young children), and they're all cracking up. Thank you so much!
Quote from: kphoger on May 10, 2012, 02:13:13 PM
So, in truth, the movie got the highway shields exactly as they are in real life. :meh:
.... true... but in the... wrong place....
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Just watching Season 1 of the A-Team on DVD and there was a US 16 south sign on one of the episodes. First of all, there is no 16 in California (and they were taking their watermelons to Fresno), plus it's 16 south and not west or east.
This isn't exactly an example of "messing up" highway shields, but it's either poor editing or more likely dramatic license, but I have noticed the Discovery Channel series "Stormchasers" sometimes puts in footage that clearly was not taken where a specific chase is taking place. Only a roadgeek would probably notice these, and you have to be watching really closely to notice them, but I watch the series as much for the roadgeeking aspects as I do the stormchasing.
A few examples-during one chase that was taking place in Oklahoma, there was a brief scene where they drove by a "K-14/K-96" reassurance sign, which is far from the Oklahoma border. Occasionally too you will see them driving towards a specific destination and you will see a mileage sign-then later see another mileage sign which was taken at some point before the first one. The most egregious example I can remember was when they were supposed to be driving on I-94 in North Dakota(the mileage signs and exit signs that were visible were consistent with this) and they had to get off the interstate to make a stop. Suddenly, they cut to a scene of the car(the "Dominator" if you are familiar with the show) getting off a freeway. A "US 70" sign was clearly visible as they got off on the exit ramp. Based on the fact that the ramp quickly joined a frontage road, it seems pretty clear that scene was taken in Plainview, TX off of I-27-far from North Dakota where the chase was taking place.
QuoteThis isn't exactly an example of "messing up" highway shields, but it's either poor editing or more likely dramatic license, but I have noticed the Discovery Channel series "Stormchasers" sometimes puts in footage that clearly was not taken where a specific chase is taking place. Only a roadgeek would probably notice these, and you have to be watching really closely to notice them, but I watch the series as much for the roadgeeking aspects as I do the stormchasing.
A few examples-during one chase that was taking place in Oklahoma, there was a brief scene where they drove by a "K-14/K-96" reassurance sign, which is far from the Oklahoma border. Occasionally too you will see them driving towards a specific destination and you will see a mileage sign-then later see another mileage sign which was taken at some point before the first one. The most egregious example I can remember was when they were supposed to be driving on I-94 in North Dakota(the mileage signs and exit signs that were visible were consistent with this) and they had to get off the interstate to make a stop. Suddenly, they cut to a scene of the car(the "Dominator" if you are familiar with the show) getting off a freeway. A "US 70" sign was clearly visible as they got off on the exit ramp. Based on the fact that the ramp quickly joined a frontage road, it seems pretty clear that scene was taken in Plainview, TX off of I-27-far from North Dakota where the chase was taking place.
I noticed that during a chase in Mississippi, they showed a scence of the dominator driving that was clearly shot in Texas. it was obvious by the "WATCH FOR ICE ON BRIDGE" sign and the reflectors.
I don't think CA 37 is located in the desert, judging from the new Train album cover:
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I have seen one political ad in Eastern Kentucky where the incumbent touts improvements to US 119-the ad uses an Interstate shield with 119 in it. US 119 is not built to interstate standard.
Quote from: national highway 1 on June 03, 2012, 08:30:24 PM
I don't think CA 37 is located in the desert, judging from the new Train album cover:
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There's also the well-worn promotional phenomenon of very old cars used for long-distance driving, especially through a desert.
Quote from: formulanone on June 05, 2012, 06:49:01 AM
Quote from: national highway 1 on June 03, 2012, 08:30:24 PM
I don't think CA 37 is located in the desert, judging from the new Train album cover:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2F5%2F53%2FCalifornia37.jpg&hash=c21af0670f21fccbfd80efee3783145918abfe8b)
There's also the well-worn promotional phenomenon of very old cars used for long-distance driving, especially through a desert.
Despite it being wrong, I really like that album cover.
Quote from: hobsini2 on June 09, 2012, 02:03:27 PM
Quote from: formulanone on June 05, 2012, 06:49:01 AM
Quote from: national highway 1 on June 03, 2012, 08:30:24 PM
I don't think CA 37 is located in the desert, judging from the new Train album cover:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2F5%2F53%2FCalifornia37.jpg&hash=c21af0670f21fccbfd80efee3783145918abfe8b)
There's also the well-worn promotional phenomenon of very old cars used for long-distance driving, especially through a desert.
Despite it being wrong, I really like that album cover.
Apart from the location issue. I'd agree, too. :nod:
Quote from: huskeroadgeek on June 03, 2012, 05:00:13 PM
This isn't exactly an example of "messing up" highway shields, but it's either poor editing or more likely dramatic license, but I have noticed the Discovery Channel series "Stormchasers" sometimes puts in footage that clearly was not taken where a specific chase is taking place. Only a roadgeek would probably notice these, and you have to be watching really closely to notice them, but I watch the series as much for the roadgeeking aspects as I do the stormchasing.
A few examples-during one chase that was taking place in Oklahoma, there was a brief scene where they drove by a "K-14/K-96" reassurance sign, which is far from the Oklahoma border. Occasionally too you will see them driving towards a specific destination and you will see a mileage sign-then later see another mileage sign which was taken at some point before the first one. The most egregious example I can remember was when they were supposed to be driving on I-94 in North Dakota(the mileage signs and exit signs that were visible were consistent with this) and they had to get off the interstate to make a stop. Suddenly, they cut to a scene of the car(the "Dominator" if you are familiar with the show) getting off a freeway. A "US 70" sign was clearly visible as they got off on the exit ramp. Based on the fact that the ramp quickly joined a frontage road, it seems pretty clear that scene was taken in Plainview, TX off of I-27-far from North Dakota where the chase was taking place.
After the American Pickers episode where they came to Fort Scott (they never said the name of the town in the episode but we had about half a dozen people come to the Tribune office to tell us they were here), I started looking for signs in shots of them on the road. There were several scenes from the area that were spliced into scenes of later shows when they were nowhere near Kansas.
In "Twister" the setting was Oklahoma and the real town of Wakita, up close to the Kansas border, was used in the movie. But in one chase scene a Texas FM marker is clearly seen.
Quote from: apeman33 on June 11, 2012, 09:23:37 PM
Quote from: huskeroadgeek on June 03, 2012, 05:00:13 PM
This isn't exactly an example of "messing up" highway shields, but it's either poor editing or more likely dramatic license, but I have noticed the Discovery Channel series "Stormchasers" sometimes puts in footage that clearly was not taken where a specific chase is taking place. Only a roadgeek would probably notice these, and you have to be watching really closely to notice them, but I watch the series as much for the roadgeeking aspects as I do the stormchasing.
A few examples-during one chase that was taking place in Oklahoma, there was a brief scene where they drove by a "K-14/K-96" reassurance sign, which is far from the Oklahoma border. Occasionally too you will see them driving towards a specific destination and you will see a mileage sign-then later see another mileage sign which was taken at some point before the first one. The most egregious example I can remember was when they were supposed to be driving on I-94 in North Dakota(the mileage signs and exit signs that were visible were consistent with this) and they had to get off the interstate to make a stop. Suddenly, they cut to a scene of the car(the "Dominator" if you are familiar with the show) getting off a freeway. A "US 70" sign was clearly visible as they got off on the exit ramp. Based on the fact that the ramp quickly joined a frontage road, it seems pretty clear that scene was taken in Plainview, TX off of I-27-far from North Dakota where the chase was taking place.
After the American Pickers episode where they came to Fort Scott (they never said the name of the town in the episode but we had about half a dozen people come to the Tribune office to tell us they were here), I started looking for signs in shots of them on the road. There were several scenes from the area that were spliced into scenes of later shows when they were nowhere near Kansas.
That show is horrible about jamming in "file footage" whereever they need it. Usually they are nowhere near the signs shown.
Speaking of which I always laugh when TV news shows generic signs trying to make you think they went to the location, such as when a construction project is being contemplated. They throw in random sign pictures.
Quote from: Road Hog on July 02, 2012, 07:24:40 AM
In "Twister" the setting was Oklahoma and the real town of Wakita, up close to the Kansas border, was used in the movie. But in one chase scene a Texas FM marker is clearly seen.
Complete with the Texas-style field goal type sign assembly. I also thought that was odd. That, and I also thought Wakita was in Kansas instead of Oklahoma.
Then again, I could see it possible that they did a chase that began in Kansas and ended up in north Texas.
Quote from: tidecat on June 04, 2012, 10:31:19 PM
I have seen one political ad in Eastern Kentucky where the incumbent touts improvements to US 119-the ad uses an Interstate shield with 119 in it. US 119 is not built to interstate standard.
Maybe this candidate is aiming to change that?
</sarcasm>
Quote from: apeman33 on June 11, 2012, 09:23:37 PM
After the American Pickers episode where they came to Fort Scott (they never said the name of the town in the episode but we had about half a dozen people come to the Tribune office to tell us they were here), I started looking for signs in shots of them on the road. There were several scenes from the area that were spliced into scenes of later shows when they were nowhere near Kansas.
On one show, they identified the pickers' location as New Hampshire, but showed an "I-93 North Concord NH" pull-thru sign that is actually located in Andover, Massachusetts (the button copy numerals on the Interstate shield were a dead giveaway)
on another episode, they were going to Detroit, and the sign gantry they showed was Exit 2xx on one sign, with a Detroit control city on the other. This must be just past Toledo, OH, before the state line.
One subtle mistake I see a lot in commercially generated art with a highway theme is to use a route marker or other sign assembly which is designed to spec and looks completely authentic, but which is positioned far too close to the traveled way (e.g., three inches from the edge line in a clearly rural location, rather than outside the 30' clear zone). In most cases this incorrect positioning is deliberate, though not an exercise of artistic license as such, since it allows the sign and the road to fit in the same frame while showing both the detail of the signface and the road vanishing into a point on the horizon.
30 foot clear zone? I don't think I've ever seen signs placed more than 30 feet away from the road. can you give an example of such a thing?
Yesterday on TV I saw an ad for a car dealership in Peoria AZ showing Loop 101 with an "Interstate 101" shield.
in the 'meat and cheese'? episode of larry the cable guy, he is driving from picket to seymor i believe, and you can clearly see the US41 construction zone in oshkosh as they are driving, they pass under the new witzel or 9th ave overpasses in the shot.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 02, 2012, 04:04:36 PM
30 foot clear zone? I don't think I've ever seen signs placed more than 30 feet away from the road. can you give an example of such a thing?
Some guide signs are, but no, most signs aren't. Anything on breakaway posts (mile markers, shields, regulatory signs) can sit within the clear zone. BGS supports are supposed to be outside the 30' or else protected by guiderail.
when I think of 30 feet, I think of billboards.
I will keep a close eye on BGSes the next time I'm on the road.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 03, 2012, 10:13:04 AM
when I think of 30 feet, I think of billboards.
I will keep a close eye on BGSes the next time I'm on the road.
Keep in mind clear zone is not a defined distance. The AASHTO green book provides recommendations but it is up to each agency to implement.
Just saw (literally about 30 seconds ago) a commercial about a transportation referendum here in Atlanta. It includes a number of BGSes set in what appears to be Arial. One in particular that caught my eye was a BGS for 14th Street, which for some reason was signed as "Exit 403". There does not exist an exit by that number anywhere in the state; 14th Street is part of the Exit 250 complex on I-75/85. I do, however, award them some bonus points for putting a US 19 shield on that BGS; while US 19 is not signed from the freeway for that exit, it is true that 14th Street does indeed carry that route at the interchange.