There are some standard road signs I have found that in certain states are NOT commonly found, except in local jurisdictions. For example, here in Colorado:
The symbolic NO U TURN sign is not used on most interstate highways at median turn-arounds. Rather those turn-arounds in the median are only signed as EMERGENCY/AUTHORIZED VEHICLES ONLY.
The yellow NO PASSING ZONE pennant, and to a lesser extent, the related DO NOT PASS sign on the right side of the road are damn near impossible to find in the Colorado wild as well.
Yet, both are everywhere in neighboring Utah.
Others??
Massachusetts: Speed limit 70, 75
The "NO PASSING ZONE" signs seem to be rather rare in Missouri, as well. (In Iowa and Minnesota, by contrast, they're very common.)
Interchange sequence signs, like this one (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.866314,-96.8416537,3a,29.9y,27.46h,86.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shnSjtD8R3N8qBwfUrkt6Ww!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1), are noticeably absent in New York. And of course, any speed limit sign higher than 65 mph applies here as well.
Quote from: webny99 on September 16, 2020, 08:41:01 PM
Interchange sequence signs, like this one (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.866314,-96.8416537,3a,29.9y,27.46h,86.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shnSjtD8R3N8qBwfUrkt6Ww!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1), are noticeably absent in New York. And of course, any speed limit sign higher than 65 mph applies here as well.
As are signs that simply say "speed limit 55", as they're all supposed to say "state speed limit 55".
Regarding the sequence signs, there are more of them than there used to be, though they're still not really common.
Quote from: KCRoadFan on September 16, 2020, 08:32:58 PM
The "NO PASSING ZONE" signs seem to be rather rare in Missouri, as well. (In Iowa and Minnesota, by contrast, they're very common.)
Illinois also has the arrow-shaped No Passing Zone sign in proliferation compared to MO.
Otherwise, I can't think of many. MO is pretty good when it comes to uniform standard signage. If my state were CA or something I might have more examples.
Michigan had a lot of "Pass with care" signs when I recently traveled that way designating stretches of roadway where you could pass along with the normal yellow arrow-shaped No Passing Zone signs. I don't think I've seen "Pass with care" signs in other states but I haven't noticed much so it could be more common. Certainly not in Indiana though.
Minnesota had "Bypass lane" signs for where through traffic can move around left-turning vehicles at various intersections. In Michigan and Indiana these lanes had no signage. Again maybe the sign is used elsewhere.
I would assume "U and Left Turns ->" and "All Turns Right Lane" are pretty rare outside of New Jersey but abound here for obvious reasons.
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 16, 2020, 08:56:44 PM
Quote from: KCRoadFan on September 16, 2020, 08:32:58 PM
The "NO PASSING ZONE" signs seem to be rather rare in Missouri, as well. (In Iowa and Minnesota, by contrast, they're very common.)
Illinois also has the arrow-shaped No Passing Zone sign in proliferation compared to MO.
Otherwise, I can't think of many. MO is pretty good when it comes to uniform standard signage. If my state were CA or something I might have more examples.
I have always noticed a severe lack of Merge signs throughout MO. Here in SC they are often times forgotten, or are posted so far back (for example, BEFORE the over/underpass) that they're not very helpful. And many states like SC, TN, and sometimes NC, will post Merge signs when Added Lane is more appropriate, and vice versa.
No passing zone pennants are essentially nonexistent here in NC. I have never seen one before except this lone one in Mecklenburg County. No clue where it was.
Not sure this counts: "sign salads" (as they are sometimes called) are not used in WA. All junctions between state highways are marked by guide signs. Individual cities can use piece-meal assemblies (https://goo.gl/maps/CvVTY9if6pjnGvJM6), but the state never does.
Example here (https://goo.gl/maps/7BVnuUuzRBG4C93n7). This sign would normally be a couple of shields with arrows and cardinal directions, but guide signs are used instead. It's nice to have destinations assigned to the routes, but the intersections are normally not marked, so it's up to you to figure out when to actually turn (especially if the guide sign is well before the actual junction).
Reassurance assemblies are the closest thing we have to sign salads. They are almost always unisign assemblies (https://goo.gl/maps/TeQdnRDH4bdhVrk59). Sometimes really weird stuff (https://goo.gl/maps/FhMxZxSw6pAr2fvLA) happens (still unisigns, though). Sometimes we have actual sign salads (https://goo.gl/maps/s2bAsJRPkV8BqA9XA) but these are rare.
So when I leave WA, I always find it interesting the manner in which multiple shields are posted next to each other, since I never see that around here.
Quote from: jakeroot on September 17, 2020, 06:13:16 AM. Sometimes really weird stuff (https://goo.gl/maps/FhMxZxSw6pAr2fvLA) happens (still unisigns, though).
Actually, I kind of like that...
Some more I can think of for Massachusetts:
Speed limit 60 (we have plenty of 55s and 65s but very few 60s)
County line signs (we go by town, not by county)
Interchange sequence signs
If yard signs count: yes/no on 3 (we only have two questions on the ballot). I've seen much more activity on question 1 than question 2, so even yes/no on 2 might qualify.
Route 11, 15 (exists but unsigned), 17, 26, 29, 34
No services next X miles
Any sign that shows 3 or more through lanes of traffic in the same direction on a surface road
Quote from: index on September 17, 2020, 05:48:55 AM
No passing zone pennants are essentially nonexistent here in NC. I have never seen one before except this lone one in Mecklenburg County. No clue where it was.
These are rare in NC and the reason I know that is I still remember where I saw some decades ago.
US 401 in the Raeford area - https://goo.gl/maps/gQx5FgAGaDTiqUYcA
US 401 from Fayetteville westward had these when US 401 was still 2-lane. Here is a leftover one on Old Raeford Rd - https://goo.gl/maps/XB2ZHTaoxDWmcD19A
I am unaware of any county route pentagon-shaped shields anywhere in Virginia, primarily because the overwhelming majority of roads here are maintained by VDOT or else are privately owned and maintained (HOA-owned streets are a common example of the latter). Arlington and Henrico Counties maintain most of their own streets, however, as do the independent cities, so in theory the county route shield could be used if those jurisdictions wanted to assign numbers to their own streets and post them (to the extent those streets don't already have numbers as part of the Interstate, US, or primary state highway systems, of course). I'm not aware that any of them have ever done so, but in theory that wouldn't prevent it in the future, perhaps for some more important routes like George Mason Drive in Arlington.
At a statewide level, the yellow pendant "NO PASSING ZONE" is actually rather uncommon. I believe there are more states that DON'T use it than states that do. The only Northeastern state that routinely uses it is New Hampshire, and even there it's only on state highways and not every state highway at that. Rare in Vermont, and here they are only used when law or ordnance specifically prohibits passing on a given roadway segment (the regulatory "DO NOT PASS" sign is occasionally used instead).
Most (if not all) of the Southeast doesn't use "NO PASSING ZONE" either...in my experience, only Mississippi does to some extent, and that's only when they're doing a pavement overlay job that may involve a lack of centerline striping...they'll post temporary orange "NO PASSING ZONE" signs (as well as "DO NOT PASS" and "PASS WITH CARE") in those construction zones.
In my experience, the states where "NO PASSING ZONE" is most commonly used are all in the Midwest...Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, the Dakotas. In Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Iowa in particular, it is also use extensively at the county level...not just at the state level.
On the flip side, the white regulatory "DO NOT PASS" sign is rare in Minnesota....the only jurisdiction I can think of offhand that uses it routinely is Hennepin County. MnDOT does not use it (or only rarely).
Quote from: KCRoadFan on September 16, 2020, 08:32:58 PM
The "NO PASSING ZONE" signs seem to be rather rare in Missouri, as well.
Such was quite annoying to me before they finished four-laning US-60 across south-central Missouri. The last remaining two-lane stretch had its share of long hills, and I was never quite sure how much room I had to pass. More than once, I decided it was still safe to pass, then encountered a solid yellow line mid-maneuver and a car cresting the hill.
Quote from: thenetwork on September 16, 2020, 07:56:09 PM
There are some standard road signs I have found that in certain states are NOT commonly found, except in local jurisdictions. For example, here in Colorado:
The symbolic NO U TURN sign is not used on most interstate highways at median turn-arounds. Rather those turn-arounds in the median are only signed as EMERGENCY/AUTHORIZED VEHICLES ONLY.
The yellow NO PASSING ZONE pennant, and to a lesser extent, the related DO NOT PASS sign on the right side of the road are damn near impossible to find in the Colorado wild as well.
Yet, both are everywhere in neighboring Utah.
Others??
Same situation here in Texas. I didn't really even know about the "No U-turn" in interstate medians until visiting other states. "Authorized Vehicles Only" or "Emergency Vehicles Only" are all I see, or sometimes the state just acts like the turnaround just isn't there. I remember "Diving on Median Unlawful" signs in the 80s. Now the "No Passing Zone" yellow pennant is an extreme rarity in Texas, but not 100% unseen. It will show up in random places where no other road has it, and it's not present the entire length of the road. Funny thing is, many moons ago when I was studying for my drivers exam, the pennant was examined extensively in the driver's handbook, despite TxDOT not really erecting the sign. "Be aware of this sign, even though if you never leave Texas, you will probably never see it." The yellow pennant is all over the place in New Mexico. The may not have a reassurance shield for 30 miles just to let you know you have been on the correct road, but damnit, you will know exactly when you can pass.
"Hill Blocks View" or "Hidden Driveway" is non-existent on Texas state highways. I have seen "Blind Hill" on a small amount of county roads, but that's it. Pretty much if you have an obstructed view in Texas, deal with it.
"Trucks Follow In Cab Signal" and corresponding weight system is in almost every state but Texas, so much to the point that I am not 100% sure what is going on with that.
"Next Rest Area XX Miles" has made a recent showing to the point almost all Rest Area guide signs in Texas have it. It wasn't long ago none had it and if you thought, "I can make it to the next rest area" but didn't know the next rest area was 110 miles away, uh oh.
BBSes (is that a term here for Big Blue Signs on interstates?) with "Attractions" doesn't exist in Texas.
The flip, Texas always labels clearance on bridges unless they are stupid high, with a rectangular sign, with black writing on a yellow field. Sometimes there is a clearance diamond sign mounted next to the bridge. I only see that setup in a few states, where in others either they aren't signed or it will be white writing on a green field or black writing on a white field. I guess that doesn't qualify as "standard" since there seems to be none, but something I always felt should be standard.
Quote from: 1 on September 16, 2020, 07:57:18 PM
Massachusetts: Speed limit 70, 75
Not rare. Non existent.
Quote from: tylert120 on September 17, 2020, 07:49:54 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 17, 2020, 06:13:16 AM. Sometimes really weird stuff (https://goo.gl/maps/FhMxZxSw6pAr2fvLA) happens (still unisigns, though).
Actually, I kind of like that...
The Southwest Region of WSDOT does things a little differently. They also like to use exit tabs that sit on top of the sign. No other part of WSDOT uses exit tabs that sit on the sign (instead they are part of the main sign, like Illinois).
Count Oklahoma as another state which doesn't use the No Passing Zone pennant. As in Texas, they are depicted in the driver's manual. Kansas uses them a lot, so there's the chance of running into them up there.
Oklahoma very rarely posts on bridges the name of the road the bridge carries. Whereas, up in Kansas, damn near every single bridge is labeled.
Interchange sequence signs used to be rare here. We do have more now, but they aren't posted anywhere nearly as consistently as in Texas, Kansas, or Missouri.
Ooh I got one!
MUTCD standard traffic signal signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.9187715,-96.4606654,3a,75y,33.21h,91.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJfw4ZrU7I8RXzYdzbdQieA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) are rare in Missouri, save for a stretch of long road without one (a possible "stop ahead when flashing" scenario).
Even then, I remember MO using "[ ] SIGNAL AHEAD" signs, where the bracketed portion has the word RED in red LEDs that light up when the signal is red.
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 17, 2020, 03:28:28 PM
Even then, I remember MO using "[ ] SIGNAL AHEAD" signs, where the bracketed portion has the word RED in red LEDs that light up when the signal is red.
Yep. Like
this (https://goo.gl/maps/eem6fUA1S5S7hPNF9). However, those are preceded by normal warning
signs (https://goo.gl/maps/dACtVpbnrxoGo8ex6).
Quote from: kphoger on September 17, 2020, 03:29:43 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 17, 2020, 03:28:28 PM
Even then, I remember MO using "[ ] SIGNAL AHEAD" signs, where the bracketed portion has the word RED in red LEDs that light up when the signal is red.
Yep. Like this (https://goo.gl/maps/eem6fUA1S5S7hPNF9). However, those are preceded by normal warning signs (https://goo.gl/maps/dACtVpbnrxoGo8ex6).
Forgot about those! Yeah, I don't get down to Southwest Missouri too often (though I may drive to Branson for a weekend soon).
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 17, 2020, 03:39:49 PM
Forgot about those! Yeah, I don't get down to Southwest Missouri too often (though I may drive to Branson for a weekend soon).
Well, if you do, you should check out some other stoplight warning signs...
...like
this one (https://goo.gl/maps/XBQze96oy7Pc1sxA8) and
this one (https://goo.gl/maps/cvtgHPP5D8Pd4Fdc6) and
this one (https://goo.gl/maps/681PocZHX6xf4w5u9) and
this one (https://goo.gl/maps/kivH8MFSkFXD7Mvy5) and
this one (https://goo.gl/maps/jdcSBcqVsnYsPKTN9) and
this one (https://goo.gl/maps/15MwxxFRyaa9D2Cu7). :bigass:
The king of links strikes again!!
The "no passing" pendant is pretty unusual in WA as well, but is still used sparingly (https://goo.gl/maps/qFMwARNBsXGqKKYT6) (and randomly).
I also don't see the double-down arrow (https://goo.gl/maps/4ytS9B8A9bP3KPBB9) very often in WA.
Also a bit surprised that no one has brought up the "FREEWAY ENTRANCE" sign. Probably since it has its own thread, but it is a standard road sign and is rare in the vast majority of states.
What other states besides Kansas use blank yellow diamonds (https://goo.gl/maps/ekaZzhvtVdFWVv6c8) for medians?
Quote from: kphoger on September 17, 2020, 04:04:35 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 17, 2020, 03:39:49 PM
Forgot about those! Yeah, I don't get down to Southwest Missouri too often (though I may drive to Branson for a weekend soon).
Well, if you do, you should check out some other stoplight warning signs...
...like this one (https://goo.gl/maps/XBQze96oy7Pc1sxA8) and this one (https://goo.gl/maps/cvtgHPP5D8Pd4Fdc6) and this one (https://goo.gl/maps/681PocZHX6xf4w5u9) and this one (https://goo.gl/maps/kivH8MFSkFXD7Mvy5) and this one (https://goo.gl/maps/jdcSBcqVsnYsPKTN9) and this one (https://goo.gl/maps/15MwxxFRyaa9D2Cu7). :bigass:
They're all on my to-do list. Isn't GSV wonderful?
Quote from: kphoger on September 17, 2020, 04:24:29 PM
What other states besides Kansas use blank yellow diamonds (https://goo.gl/maps/ekaZzhvtVdFWVv6c8) for medians?
Maryland does it on occasion. (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.2648707,-76.4501981,3a,43.3y,327.83h,86.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swO9GPtEoXiPcbpBAN66NeA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en)
(They're also starting to use the yellow diamond in conjunction with a more-typical divided highway right sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4185091,-76.7787723,3a,43y,154.27h,87.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sN5CPj2aS3IBulq3UIdN6zw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en).)
Also for Washington, to my knowledge, there is not a single pentagon county road sign in the entire state.
I never see the No Passing pennant in Texas, like others have mentioned.
You also normally won't see:
BEGINS/ENDS signs
LANE ENDS so and so FEET AHEAD signs
Maybe I'm weird, but I'm not sure if I've ever seen a TO banner ever used in Texas. I may be wrong on that, though.
Wisconsin and Indiana will banner cardinal directions on the highways at all junctions like these.
Janesville, Wisconsin: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7310673,-89.0332286,3a,25y,191.4h,84.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDQKqcwyo0EuRUvC9g0irwg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
East Chicago, Indiana: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6870016,-87.507548,3a,75y,324.09h,95.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQxmpo-BOCJc3iqedwG2v8w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
Illinois on the other hand rarely does. The standard junction assembly is like this:
NB Rt 53 at Rt 7: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5933857,-88.0754188,3a,75y,9.74h,89.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYv8QqpIJlLeKtSxBXo3gjg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
SB Rt 53 at Rt 7: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5947962,-88.0751545,3a,75y,230.04h,82.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZ4wfr5e3oI7HUYBGpngFfw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
EB Renwick Rd. Rt 7 is not signed correctly. Should be up AND right. https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5941597,-88.0760374,3a,15y,114.14h,87.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sE4V0NxsM4n3B8voJjZzBAg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
WB Rt 7:https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5940364,-88.074737,3a,48.8y,314.57h,83.49t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s66UxDUB1YSkGbav4KhRh4w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
No Passing Zone pendants are non-existent here in Oregon and I haven't seen them in Washington; cant recall seeing them in Idaho.
As far as I can tell, only Douglas County uses the blue pentagon, usually only on street name blades or mile markers.
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 17, 2020, 03:28:28 PM
Even then, I remember MO using "[ ] SIGNAL AHEAD" signs, where the bracketed portion has the word RED in red LEDs that light up when the signal is red.
They will even activate when the signal is green, just before the long yellow light is turned on. Most of the roads with those signs are used on are high-speed (like the four-lane expressway sections of MO-13, US 60 & 65), so they are taking in to account the time it will take to get to or through the intersection. Good thing they thought that through, because I had one of those activate on me when I was half a second from being unable to see it, so it was safer for me to speed on through the intersection, as I would have been unable to brake (safely).
Very few, if any "no passing zone" signs here in SW Missouri. That was one of the things that really defined Kansas from a road standpoint for me.
Quote from: interstate73 on September 17, 2020, 01:54:45 AM
I would assume "U and Left Turns ->" and "All Turns Right Lane" are pretty rare outside of New Jersey but abound here for obvious reasons.
They exist in MUTCD Section 2B.27. I'm surprised Pennsylvania doesn't use them more.
Here's one: How about "RIGHT LANE FROM EXIT ONLY" instead of just "RIGHT LANE EXIT ONLY?" Does any state besides New Jersey ever use the preposition in that one?
Quote from: Bickendan on September 17, 2020, 09:38:27 PM
No Passing Zone pendants are non-existent here in Oregon and I haven't seen them in Washington; cant recall seeing them in Idaho.
They are used in Washington but only very rarely. I posted one example upthread.
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on September 17, 2020, 08:35:17 PM
Also for Washington, to my knowledge, there is not a single pentagon county road sign in the entire state.
I have definitely never seen one. Nor even heard of there being a county route system in any WA county.
End signs are very rare in Arkansas.
Western Electric Model 500
Quote from: jakeroot on September 17, 2020, 10:28:48 PM
Quote from: Bickendan on September 17, 2020, 09:38:27 PM
No Passing Zone pendants are non-existent here in Oregon and I haven't seen them in Washington; cant recall seeing them in Idaho.
They are used in Washington but only very rarely. I posted one example upthread.
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on September 17, 2020, 08:35:17 PM
Also for Washington, to my knowledge, there is not a single pentagon county road sign in the entire state.
I have definitely never seen one. Nor even heard of there being a county route system in any WA county.
We don't have a pentagon, but there is one numbered route system in a county.
Quote from: jakeroot on June 24, 2018, 08:59:38 PM
That bike route sign reminds me. I saw a Kitsap county bike route shield, with a county cutout for the shield:
(https://i.imgur.com/otpCLVT.jpg)
OH CRAP that's right!! Hell, I even posted that photo :-D
I guess whether you want that to count towards a county route system...I don't want to decide that. But I love that Kitsap County took the time to make that shield.
That's neat, but I think that county has the worst possible shape for doing a traditional outline shield :P
Ohio is missing both DO NOT PASS and NO PASSING ZONE
Having neither a DO NOT PASS white sign nor a NO PASSING ZONE yellow pennant really annoys me. It's not always feasible to go by the yellow lines. As just one example of how it can be difficult, check out the beginning of this no-passing zone (https://goo.gl/maps/g8uQ99fgymTJdGKe6), where the lines are half-obscured by crack sealing.
Quote from: kphoger on September 18, 2020, 02:22:19 PM
Having neither a DO NOT PASS white sign nor a NO PASSING ZONE yellow pennant really annoys me. It's not always feasible to go by the yellow lines. As just one example of how it can be difficult, check out the beginning of this no-passing zone (https://goo.gl/maps/g8uQ99fgymTJdGKe6), where the lines are half-obscured by crack sealing.
I would say that "neither" is also the most common practice in WA. But in practice, we don't have those cracking issues, and snow rarely covers the ground enough to truly warrant a bunch of redundant signage.
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 18, 2020, 01:40:05 PM
That's neat, but I think that county has the worst possible shape for doing a traditional outline shield :P
Oh, no doubt. As long as they keep things within two digits, it should be okay.
Quote from: kphoger on September 18, 2020, 02:22:19 PM
Having neither a DO NOT PASS white sign nor a NO PASSING ZONE yellow pennant really annoys me. It's not always feasible to go by the yellow lines. As just one example of how it can be difficult, check out the beginning of this no-passing zone (https://goo.gl/maps/g8uQ99fgymTJdGKe6), where the lines are half-obscured by crack sealing.
Missouri's usually pretty good at
not doing that
There are no "RUNAWAY TRUCK RAMP" signs in Indiana.
Quote from: cabiness42 on September 18, 2020, 06:57:08 PM
There are no "RUNAWAY TRUCK RAMP" signs in Indiana.
I'm going to also assume, then, that there are no actual runaway truck ramps either.
By your logic, we could also say that Hawaii has no "BRIDGE ICES BEFORE ROAD" signs, but then neither Mauna Loa or Mauna Kea have any bridges where it regularly gets below freezing (the peaks), and the vast majority of Hawaii never gets anywhere near freezing temperatures (Honolulu's record low is 52).
I'm not trying to be a dick, but I don't think we need to point out the obvious ones.
Mileage signs on freeways in NJ are not common especially the Parkway.
Minnesota and Wisconsin don't have the "Bridge May Be Icy" (or other variant) signs despite their reputations.
Quote from: tdindy88 on September 16, 2020, 09:18:13 PM
Michigan had a lot of "Pass with care" signs when I recently traveled that way designating stretches of roadway where you could pass along with the normal yellow arrow-shaped No Passing Zone signs. I don't think I've seen "Pass with care" signs in other states but I haven't noticed much so it could be more common. Certainly not in Indiana though.
Minnesota had "Bypass lane" signs for where through traffic can move around left-turning vehicles at various intersections. In Michigan and Indiana these lanes had no signage. Again maybe the sign is used elsewhere.
Michigan still does have a lot of "Pass with care" signs, they are at the start of a passing zone. Then you have the "Do not pass" signs going the other way. These Do Not Pass signs are on the right on a white sign with black lettering and directly across the street is a triangle sign saying, "No passing zone"
I pass those Pass with Care signs all the time in Michigan but haven't seen them in other states.
Quote from: jakeroot on September 18, 2020, 08:00:19 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on September 18, 2020, 06:57:08 PM
There are no "RUNAWAY TRUCK RAMP" signs in Indiana.
I'm going to also assume, then, that there are no actual runaway truck ramps either.
By your logic, we could also say that Hawaii has no "BRIDGE ICES BEFORE ROAD" signs, but then neither Mauna Loa or Mauna Kea have any bridges where it regularly gets below freezing (the peaks), and the vast majority of Hawaii never gets anywhere near freezing temperatures (Honolulu's record low is 52).
I'm not trying to be a dick, but I don't think we need to point out the obvious ones.
The obvious ones are the most fun!
No runaway trucks signs in Florida either...
How about PA in rural areas with 55 mph speed limits? They are rare because of default 55 into law for no postings.
I believe MI lacks 55 mph signs too as US 31 is hardly signed in 55 zones. However since Michigan upped the two lane rural arteries to 60 mph that may be changed.
Quote from: roadman65 on September 19, 2020, 12:14:57 PM
I believe MI lacks 55 mph signs too as US 31 is hardly signed in 55 zones. However since Michigan upped the two lane rural arteries to 60 mph that may be changed.
Michigan has plenty of 55 mph signs. It just may seem like we don't, because no one pays any attention to them.
And some highways in the northern part of the state have been changed from the old Nixon 55 mph to 65 mph. But it requires an engineering study to determine where the no passing zones go. (Except for the Seney Stretch, that was easy.)
Quote from: roadman65 on September 19, 2020, 12:14:57 PM
How about PA in rural areas with 55 mph speed limits? They are rare because of default 55 into law for no postings.
I believe MI lacks 55 mph signs too as US 31 is hardly signed in 55 zones. However since Michigan upped the two lane rural arteries to 60 mph that may be changed.
Michigan certainly does not lack any 55 mph speed limit signs. There are a ton of them all over the state.
Quote from: cabiness42 on September 18, 2020, 06:57:08 PM
There are no "RUNAWAY TRUCK RAMP" signs in Indiana.
Actually, there is one in Southeast Indiana.
https://goo.gl/maps/Q7hHS2Lp9vDfVkAN9
I'm hard pressed to think of any Yield signs here in Oregon.
Quote from: Bickendan on September 19, 2020, 11:48:32 PM
I'm hard pressed to think of any Yield signs here in Oregon.
Surely you have at least one roundabout...
Just drove from St Louis to Waterloo IL for a camping trip. I seem to notice that IL doesn't have many distance signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.3319796,-90.1650086,3a,16.6y,265h,86.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRnNVo-IXP6yxWvjccZZMOw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) on their roads, or at least in Monroe County.
Quote from: US 89 on September 20, 2020, 12:35:52 PM
Quote from: Bickendan on September 19, 2020, 11:48:32 PM
I'm hard pressed to think of any Yield signs here in Oregon.
Surely you have at least one roundabout...
39th and Glisan uses full on stop signs.
I'll have to take a drive out toward Forest Grove to check the ones there.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/Spain_traffic_signal_r3.svg/240px-Spain_traffic_signal_r3.svg.png)
The sign above (Priority road) is common all over Europe, but exceedingly rare in Spain. I've only seen a handful in my entire life, and one of them was replaced with this strange thing (https://www.google.es/maps/@41.4981217,-0.1428492,3a,62.2y,282.97h,93.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXy8JD4i3Q5dD2b0CpjynMg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) some time between November 2016 (when I drove that road) and June 2019.
What about "No Left Turn" at a freeway on-ramp. This one is the "No Turns" variety.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4172621,-71.2564954,3a,16.4y,322.46h,88.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKoIjSGXt4ZQ6FuRmEMBMqw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4172621,-71.2564954,3a,16.4y,322.46h,88.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKoIjSGXt4ZQ6FuRmEMBMqw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Some states are religious about it, others don't care. I always found the sign quite odd because it's a completely unnatural turn, but I guess people do turn there.
Yield signs at freeway entrance ramps. https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0373986,-77.3888205,3a,34.2y,11.66h,92.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s13NDRDJtqBPegZzOpyalIg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0373986,-77.3888205,3a,34.2y,11.66h,92.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s13NDRDJtqBPegZzOpyalIg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Some states do, others give you the merging arrow implying the ramp must yield.
In states with freeway service roads, a Yield sign on for the through service road traffic is present at freeway on and off ramps, but sometimes it is accompanied with a small sign underneath, black writing on a white field, "To Ramp" . In Texas, this is very inconsistent.
Quote from: Bickendan on September 20, 2020, 05:05:39 PM
Quote from: US 89 on September 20, 2020, 12:35:52 PM
Quote from: Bickendan on September 19, 2020, 11:48:32 PM
I'm hard pressed to think of any Yield signs here in Oregon.
Surely you have at least one roundabout...
39th and Glisan uses full on stop signs.
I'll have to take a drive out toward Forest Grove to check the ones there.
Ever heard of a slip lane? Pretty much always used at them: https://goo.gl/maps/iUEq7PAfxXVnaRoP7
Best I've seen, Oregon reserved zebra markings for slip lanes that have a yield for the pedestrian crossing (as opposed to continental lines for signalized crossings). If you see a right turn slip lane with zebra markings, damn good chance it'll have a yield sign. Otherwise it's an add-lane, and those aren't quite as common.
Quote from: Flint1979 on September 19, 2020, 10:39:31 AM
Quote from: tdindy88 on September 16, 2020, 09:18:13 PM
Michigan had a lot of "Pass with care" signs when I recently traveled that way designating stretches of roadway where you could pass along with the normal yellow arrow-shaped No Passing Zone signs. I don't think I've seen "Pass with care" signs in other states but I haven't noticed much so it could be more common. Certainly not in Indiana though.
Minnesota had "Bypass lane" signs for where through traffic can move around left-turning vehicles at various intersections. In Michigan and Indiana these lanes had no signage. Again maybe the sign is used elsewhere.
Michigan still does have a lot of "Pass with care" signs, they are at the start of a passing zone. Then you have the "Do not pass" signs going the other way. These Do Not Pass signs are on the right on a white sign with black lettering and directly across the street is a triangle sign saying, "No passing zone"
I pass those Pass with Care signs all the time in Michigan but haven't seen them in other states.
Michigan also posts "Do Not Pass When Opposing Traffic Present" signs on rural trunklines where there is a passing lane in the other direction. I haven't seen that in other states.
Indiana has a lot of "CHURCH" warning signs on state highways and local roads. I guess we need to be warned about those. :bigass:
Quote from: renegade on November 04, 2020, 02:18:15 PM
Indiana has a lot of "CHURCH" warning signs on state highways and local roads. I guess we need to be warned about those. :bigass:
Churches tend to have a lot of traffic entering and exiting the road at one time, so it's more of a traffic warning than about the nature of the facility. "FACTORY ENTRANCE" signs are also common.
I recently read that WA's WAC (Washington Administrative Code) bans (https://apps.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=468-95&full=true) both "BRIDGE ICES BEFORE ROAD" and "HILL BLOCKS VIEW" signs. So don't look for those in WA.
Also, "RAMP METER AHEAD" "RAMP METERED WHEN FLASHING" are not permitted. WA uses "RAMP METERED AHEAD WHEN FLASHING" instead.
Quote from: jakeroot on November 04, 2020, 07:01:59 PM
I recently read that WA's WAC (Washington Administrative Code) bans (https://apps.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=468-95&full=true) both "BRIDGE ICES BEFORE ROAD" and "HILL BLOCKS VIEW" signs. So don't look for those in WA.
Also, "RAMP METER AHEAD" "RAMP METERED WHEN FLASHING" are not permitted. WA uses "RAMP METERED AHEAD WHEN FLASHING" instead.
I know I have seen "hill blocks view" in Washington multiple times. I just can't remember where.
Quote from: renegade on November 04, 2020, 02:18:15 PM
Indiana has a lot of "CHURCH" warning signs on state highways and local roads. I guess we need to be warned about those. :bigass:
I seen a few in Alabama also.
Quote from: cwf1701 on November 07, 2020, 08:33:23 PM
Quote from: renegade on November 04, 2020, 02:18:15 PM
Indiana has a lot of "CHURCH" warning signs on state highways and local roads. I guess we need to be warned about those. :bigass:
I seen a few in Alabama also.
Ohio used to have yellow THEATER ENTRANCE signs for Drive-In's
Quote from: kphoger on September 18, 2020, 02:22:19 PM
Having neither a DO NOT PASS white sign nor a NO PASSING ZONE yellow pennant really annoys me. It's not always feasible to go by the yellow lines. As just one example of how it can be difficult, check out the beginning of this no-passing zone (https://goo.gl/maps/g8uQ99fgymTJdGKe6), where the lines are half-obscured by crack sealing.
Agreed. I don't need the DO NOT PASS and PASS WITH CARE signs, but the yellow pentagon should be required in all jurisdictions. Not just in hilly terrain, or areas with a lot of turns, but I travel in places that I am not familiar with. Would be nice to have a second indicator besides the faded lane lines.
Quote from: jakeroot on September 17, 2020, 04:20:18 PM
The king of links strikes again!!
Also a bit surprised that no one has brought up the "FREEWAY ENTRANCE" sign. Probably since it has its own thread, but it is a standard road sign and is rare in the vast majority of states.
since you mention it... i always wondered about those signs. i remember seeing on at an entrance to i-80 somewhere in nevada, and thinking to myself why would they even need this sign..
bumping along random county road in nevada 'gee, whats this thing over my head with all the cars whizzing by?'
they do make sense more in urban areas where you never know when some street is going to unceremoniously dump you onto i-whatever with little or no warning. i have seen two in colorado (there's probably more...) - one where us 85 dumps onto i-76 in denver, and one where us 40 dumps onto i-70 eb near empire.. those sort of make sense
Quote from: Bickendan on September 17, 2020, 09:38:27 PM
No Passing Zone pendants are non-existent here in Oregon and I haven't seen them in Washington; cant recall seeing them in Idaho.
As far as I can tell, only Douglas County uses the blue pentagon, usually only on street name blades or mile markers.
Arkansas doesn't use pennants at all (except occasionally on a county road, but not posted on the left). Only Do Not Pass signs.
Maryland could, but never uses county route number signs (they are struck from the state MUTCD supplement and as such may not appear on any state-maintained road). That effectively means that they cannot be used on roads under county maintenance or municipal maintenance either. Nor does Maryland have a secondary highway system like Virginia and West Virginia do.
It's rare to see the M2-1 "JCT" banner in Virginia.
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on November 08, 2020, 02:23:37 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 17, 2020, 04:20:18 PM
Also a bit surprised that no one has brought up the "FREEWAY ENTRANCE" sign. Probably since it has its own thread, but it is a standard road sign and is rare in the vast majority of states.
since you mention it... i always wondered about those signs. i remember seeing on at an entrance to i-80 somewhere in nevada, and thinking to myself why would they even need this sign..
bumping along random county road in nevada 'gee, whats this thing over my head with all the cars whizzing by?'
So, if you're in or on something that's prohibited on a freeway, or if your vehicle isn't up to freeway speeds due to maintenance or other issues, then you know not to go there.
Quote from: kphoger on November 09, 2020, 02:01:47 PM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on November 08, 2020, 02:23:37 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 17, 2020, 04:20:18 PM
Also a bit surprised that no one has brought up the "FREEWAY ENTRANCE" sign. Probably since it has its own thread, but it is a standard road sign and is rare in the vast majority of states.
since you mention it... i always wondered about those signs. i remember seeing on at an entrance to i-80 somewhere in nevada, and thinking to myself why would they even need this sign..
bumping along random county road in nevada 'gee, whats this thing over my head with all the cars whizzing by?'
So, if you're in or on something that's prohibited on a freeway, or if your vehicle isn't up to freeway speeds due to maintenance or other issues, then you know not to go there.
Wouldn't the Interstate Shield be a giveaway for that?
Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 09, 2020, 02:04:53 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 09, 2020, 02:01:47 PM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on November 08, 2020, 02:23:37 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 17, 2020, 04:20:18 PM
Also a bit surprised that no one has brought up the "FREEWAY ENTRANCE" sign. Probably since it has its own thread, but it is a standard road sign and is rare in the vast majority of states.
since you mention it... i always wondered about those signs. i remember seeing on at an entrance to i-80 somewhere in nevada, and thinking to myself why would they even need this sign..
bumping along random county road in nevada 'gee, whats this thing over my head with all the cars whizzing by?'
So, if you're in or on something that's prohibited on a freeway, or if your vehicle isn't up to freeway speeds due to maintenance or other issues, then you know not to go there.
Wouldn't the Interstate Shield be a giveaway for that?
It would provide a backup if the Interstate sign gets knocked down, whether by a car or by strong winds. I've also seen signs that rotate when they were hit by vehicles and are facing the wrong way.
Then there are the signs that say "I-80 West second left". Do driveways and parking lots count as a street? A freeway entrance sign would make it obvious which one to use.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 09, 2020, 02:04:53 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 09, 2020, 02:01:47 PM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on November 08, 2020, 02:23:37 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 17, 2020, 04:20:18 PM
Also a bit surprised that no one has brought up the "FREEWAY ENTRANCE" sign. Probably since it has its own thread, but it is a standard road sign and is rare in the vast majority of states.
since you mention it... i always wondered about those signs. i remember seeing on at an entrance to i-80 somewhere in nevada, and thinking to myself why would they even need this sign..
bumping along random county road in nevada 'gee, whats this thing over my head with all the cars whizzing by?'
So, if you're in or on something that's prohibited on a freeway, or if your vehicle isn't up to freeway speeds due to maintenance or other issues, then you know not to go there.
Wouldn't the Interstate Shield be a giveaway for that?
Perhaps. But not all freeways are Interstates. Besides which, there are other reasons to designate the official beginning of freeway-related restrictions.
For example, I used to do a bit of hitchhiking back before I was married. One of my goals was to hitchhike from a legal spot whenever possible. So, unless there was some reason against doing so, I always made sure to stand
in front of
this type of sign (https://goo.gl/maps/itSBUqnxkTmx4wRq9), because it was commonly accepted that hitchhiking
from beyond that point was in violation of the pedestrian prohibition.
How many states use the PROHIBITED signs at freeway entrances?
Quote from: index on September 17, 2020, 05:48:55 AM
No passing zone pennants are essentially nonexistent here in NC. I have never seen one before except this lone one in Mecklenburg County. No clue where it was.
I travel all over the state for work and I see those frequently..
Quote from: US71 on November 21, 2020, 10:21:32 PM
How many states use the PROHIBITED signs at freeway entrances?
Kentucky does.
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on November 07, 2020, 07:32:49 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 04, 2020, 07:01:59 PM
I recently read that WA's WAC (Washington Administrative Code) bans (https://apps.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=468-95&full=true) both "BRIDGE ICES BEFORE ROAD" and "HILL BLOCKS VIEW" signs. So don't look for those in WA.
Also, "RAMP METER AHEAD" "RAMP METERED WHEN FLASHING" are not permitted. WA uses "RAMP METERED AHEAD WHEN FLASHING" instead.
I know I have seen "hill blocks view" in Washington multiple times. I just can't remember where.
Here's one: https://goo.gl/maps/QBNeeeisP6CDipwK6
Jake's right though, they aren't supposed to be used per the WA MUTCD supplement.
Quote from: stevashe on December 24, 2020, 01:57:56 AM
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on November 07, 2020, 07:32:49 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 04, 2020, 07:01:59 PM
I recently read that WA's WAC (Washington Administrative Code) bans (https://apps.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=468-95&full=true) both "BRIDGE ICES BEFORE ROAD" and "HILL BLOCKS VIEW" signs. So don't look for those in WA.
Also, "RAMP METER AHEAD" "RAMP METERED WHEN FLASHING" are not permitted. WA uses "RAMP METERED AHEAD WHEN FLASHING" instead.
I know I have seen "hill blocks view" in Washington multiple times. I just can't remember where.
Here's one: https://goo.gl/maps/QBNeeeisP6CDipwK6
Jake's right though, they aren't supposed to be used per the WA MUTCD supplement.
There is also one on Stanwood-Bryant Road at SR9, north of Arlington. Street View doesn't show it, so it must be fairly new.
Based on what I got on this thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=28137.0), enhanced mile markers pretty much don't exist in a good amount of states, like CA, WA, TX, etc.
Quote from: SkyPesos on December 26, 2020, 08:40:47 PM
Based on what I got on this thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=28137.0), enhanced mile markers pretty much don't exist in a good amount of states, like CA, WA, TX, etc.
Coming from Texas, enhanced mile markers are a pleasant exception instead of the standard.
On the other hand, there are state that can't make up their mind if they go standard or enhanced (looking at you Louisiana).
Quote from: vdeane on September 16, 2020, 08:50:25 PM
Quote from: webny99 on September 16, 2020, 08:41:01 PM
Interchange sequence signs, like this one (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.866314,-96.8416537,3a,29.9y,27.46h,86.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shnSjtD8R3N8qBwfUrkt6Ww!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1), are noticeably absent in New York. And of course, any speed limit sign higher than 65 mph applies here as well.
As are signs that simply say "speed limit 55", as they're all supposed to say "state speed limit 55".
Regarding the sequence signs, there are more of them than there used to be, though they're still not really common.
Another honorable mention for NY is the "END XX MPH LIMIT" sign, where a speed zone of usually 35, 40, or 45 mph reverts back to the statewide statutory limits, most of the time 55 mph unless in a residential or city area. It's used a lot around here. I could be wrong, but you'd be hard pressed to find this sign used much elsewhere, except for a handful of other states. I'm sure it's been mentioned somewhere on this forum before.
I've seen Bear Crossing in Louisiana, but nowhere else to my recollection.
Illinois likes to use crossroad or sideroad signs with the name of the road underneath, but Arkansas rarely posts road names.
Here's another interesting query:
What states have yet to use in-road route shield pavement markings? These are normally found at major intersections using actual route shields (not text numbers) for individual lanes on or off freeways.
Offhand, I do know that they do them in Ohio and Colorado and I believe Utah as well.
Quote from: thenetwork on December 30, 2020, 06:33:36 PM
Here's another interesting query:
What states have yet to use in-road route shield pavement markings? These are normally found at major intersections using actual route shields (not text numbers) for individual lanes on or off freeways.
Offhand, I do know that they do them in Ohio and Colorado and I believe Utah as well.
I want to say the first place I ever saw them was in New Mexico (before Utah put a few in maybe 5-10 years ago). Here's one example on I-40 at I-25 (https://goo.gl/maps/n8T9C4uqgKYPkRQf8)...interestingly, I thought I remembered them being a bit more widespread in that interchange.
Quote from: thenetwork on December 30, 2020, 06:33:36 PM
Here's another interesting query:
What states have yet to use in-road route shield pavement markings? These are normally found at major intersections using actual route shields (not text numbers) for individual lanes on or off freeways.
Offhand, I do know that they do them in Ohio and Colorado and I believe Utah as well.
Arkansas uses them sometimes, mostly around Little Rock and West Memphis.
I've seen some in Missouri, as well.
Quote from: thenetwork on December 30, 2020, 06:33:36 PM
What states have yet to use in-road route shield pavement markings? These are normally found at major intersections using actual route shields (not text numbers) for individual lanes on or off freeways.
There used to be one where I-88 connects with I-294 and I-290, but they were removed at some point, as you can see if you click and change the date in Street View.
(https://i.imgur.com/4cDaYLs.png) (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8675194,-87.9193498,3a,75y,37.43h,76.55t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s3qaqs0YdO0MfKpqQS-XvEA!2e0!5s20130901T000000!7i13312!8i6656)
Texas does shield pavement markings frequently in Houston and San Antonio, but I don't think DFW or any rural areas have them. I tend to like them better than any guide sign, be it APL or diagrammatical, as it directly shows you where your lane goes.
Illinois took down most of the Deer crossing signs because you need to expect them everywhere.
ConnDOT has never used, to my knowledge:
*Takes deep breath*
- "Dip" warning sign
- CR signs
- "Speed humps" graphical sign
- "U and left turns"
- "Begin right turn here"
- any road bend warning sign with the insert advisory speed limit. They're always posted below it.
- Any pink toll signage
- Any civil defense signage
-;Any ramp meter signage
- any supplementary signs under yield signs,
- nighttime or truck speed limit
- begin/end higher fines zone
- any photo enforcement signs
- speed zone
- The " no going straight" movement sign
- reverse lane signs
- No rollerblading and no horseback riding
- any of the headlight signs
- hazardous cargo signs
- "Hill blocks view"
- "Golf carts ahead", "stagecoaches ahead" warning signs
- Warning signs for bears, sheep, moose, bighorn sheep, donkies, cows, snowmobiles, or the alternate deer pictogram
-Movement signs for exit ramps with an option lane
- The Eisenhower Interstate sign
- any toll pictograms
- bus lane signs
- service pictograms for: camping, trailer camping, litter container, handicapped, van accessible, CNG fuel, E85 fuel, RV sanitary station, propane gas, pharmacy, TTY, WI-FI
-The Interstate Oasis sign
-Brake check or chain up area service signs
-A majority of the brown recreational signs and pictograms
-Evacuation route signs
-Fallout shelter signs