:hmmm: Well, how do I describe this? I'm thinking of like, freeways that don't end in an interchange with other interstate highways, and end at a limited-access US/State highway at a traffic light or stop sign.
Interstate 90, in Seattle, ends at a traffic light with a city street just after it crosses over I-5. Technically WA-519, but you'd be hard pressed to find any evidence of that.
There is also a similar thread about boring interstate endings. It seems to encompass what you're looking for:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=20342.msg2229397#msg2229397
Nevada's Interstate 580 at the south end of Carson City. It's a four-way signal with southbound US 395 to the left, westbound US 50 straight ahead and northbound Business US 395 (South Carson Street) to the right. **Perhaps** by the late 2020s that will be converted to an SPUI, with no stop required to continue on to westbound US 50.
That one is about boring ends but did include a lot of surface street ends. Most of Illinois is covered but the famed Interstate 180 was only glanced at. It has 2 surface street ends an unmarked spur to Illinois 29 and the more formal end as it merges into Illinois 71. The purpose of the 29 spur is interesting. My research is it and the addition of a supplemental freeway was to appease the FHWA which was under heat for giving Illinois interstate funds for 180. This freeway was not on the original plan at the end of 1966.
Btw. I checked the older thread to avoid duplication . In That thread most Illinois interstates end at other interstates or other freeways and expressways like. 255 290 and 172. But the also missed 190 that ends at the arrivals and departures at Ohare.
65 used to end at a traffic light.
I think both ends of I-35 count. Honestly, there are too many for me to try to list. What about Interstate freeways that end at surface-street intersections that aren't US or state routes? I-16 is one example. What about Interstate non-freeways that end at surface-street intersections that aren't US or state routes? I think that's a category of one, although I think its signage ends where it ceases to be a freeway, because probably almost nobody calls the Holland Tunnel "I-78."
Edit: Wait, did I goof regarding I-16? What's the deal with Route 25 in Georgia?
I-264 Va transitions to/from city streets at its east end.
I-55 in Memphis at the Crump Blvd. cloverleaf has its northbound freeway end at Riverside Drive, a local street.
I-170/MO's southern end is a stoplight with Eager Road and also the entrance to a shopping center. Southbound I-170 traffic basically ends at a Target store
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.629352,-90.3437864,3a,49y,158.03h,91.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdsyeQVvlXGiL-LKnyCaiGA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Traffic movements to/from I-64/US 40 also used to have to use the light, but flyovers have since been constructed for the Freeway-Freeway movements
Before I saw the reply about I-170 in St. Louis, I was going to post about that myself. Oh well.
However...I've got an example that hasn't been mentioned on this thread yet. I-394 in Minnesota, coming in from the west, ends on North 4th Street in downtown Minneapolis (not far from Target Center).
I-95 dumps onto multilane US-1 as it transitions from The Brickell to South Dixie Highway. Note that the southbound ramp from the Rickenbacker Causeway dumps onto The Brickell just immediately before the ramp off of I-95. Things appear to be different since I worked there in the early/mid-1990s. The northbound lanes of South Dixie still have street access (now RIRO), but the southbound lanes are limited access at street level until the 16th Avenue/3rd Avenue intersection. The original intersection with SW 32nd Road is cut off on the northwest side of the dumpoff.
The Atlantic City Expressway ends at city streets in atlantic city.
Garden State Parkway on the south ends at local streets.
NJ55 ends at NJ47 after turning into a two lane road.
PA283 ends at a cloverleaf/Local streets at I283
I83 in baltimore ends on local streets.
Quote from: stridentweasel on September 18, 2020, 10:25:26 PM
What about Interstate non-freeways that end at surface-street intersections that aren't US or state routes? I think that's a category of one, although I think its signage ends where it ceases to be a freeway, because probably almost nobody calls the Holland Tunnel "I-78."
The south end of I-37 might qualify for this, depending on where you decide the southern terminus is. I think TxDOT considers the I-37 designation to end at the US-181 exit, the last interchange. And that's the last place you see shields. But you can continue east for a few blocks on an at-grade, divided road posted by the city of Corpus Christi as "Interstate Hwy 37", which ends at a T junction at Shoreline Blvd, right on the shore of Corpus Christi Bay.
Quote from: roadman65 on September 18, 2020, 10:57:28 PM
I-55 in Memphis at the Crump Blvd. cloverleaf has its northbound freeway end at Riverside Drive, a local street.
I don't want to be the annoying technicality guy, but really the I-55 freeway does not end there, it just turns onto the loop ramp.
Quote from: thspfc on September 19, 2020, 08:42:11 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 18, 2020, 10:57:28 PM
I-55 in Memphis at the Crump Blvd. cloverleaf has its northbound freeway end at Riverside Drive, a local street.
I don't want to be the annoying technicality guy, but really the I-55 freeway does not end there, it just turns onto the loop ramp.
No but it's where the southern freeway ends as Riverside Drive continues what I-55 started in La. The loop ramp is hardly freeway as it connects one freeway to another new one.
Yes it's not a terminus but the freeway part there does end with a break beforehand.
I-180 in Lincoln, NE drops you into a traffic light downtown.
The southern terminus of I-19 in Nogales AZ is an intersection where crossing traffic has a stop sign. The freeway part of I-19 anyway.
Quote from: CapeCodder on September 18, 2020, 09:00:00 PM
65 used to end at a traffic light.
At the northern terminus, I believe it still does.
I think I-72's eastern end officially is I-57, and the University Ave Feeder into Champaign isn't officially I-72...but anyway, the Freeway does continue east of I-57 for about a mile or two to the stoplight at Country Fair Dr
Quote from: ilpt4u on September 19, 2020, 03:04:50 PM
I think I-72's eastern end officially is I-57, and the University Ave Feeder into Champaign isn't officially I-72...but anyway, the Freeway does continue east of I-57 for about a mile or two to the stoplight at Country Fair Dr
http://www.idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Transportation-System/Maps-&-Charts/Highway/City/City__Champaign.pdf (http://www.idot.illinois.gov/Assets/uploads/files/Transportation-System/Maps-&-Charts/Highway/City/City__Champaign.pdf)
According to this IDOT map, it does end at I-57.
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on September 19, 2020, 02:25:38 PM
The southern terminus of I-19 in Nogales AZ is an intersection where crossing traffic has a stop sign. The freeway part of I-19 anyway.
Quote from: CapeCodder on September 18, 2020, 09:00:00 PM
65 used to end at a traffic light.
At the northern terminus, I believe it still does.
It does, but...it used to have a light before US20.
I476 ends at a local road and a trumpet, on the northern end. Does that kind of count since the ramp's overpass does have mile markers on it for 476.
Illinois loves feeder ramps there is an entire thread on Great Lakes on just one but 88 really doesn't end at 80 . There is an 88 ends sign just past the cloverleaf so it simply becomes one of its old numbers Illinois 5
Also Interstate 2 becomes US 83.
Quote from: 3467 on September 19, 2020, 04:19:01 PM
Illinois loves feeder ramps there is an entire thread on Great Lakes on just one but 88 really doesn't end at 80 . There is an 88 ends sign just past the cloverleaf so it simply becomes one of its old numbers Illinois 5
Also Interstate 2 becomes US 83.
In that vein, I-57 for now ends at US60, and just turns into a 4 lane rural expressway with cross traffic after the southern cloverleaf.
I-105 in Eugene OR ends with a stoplight and a connection to SR 99/former US 99 on the west end. The east end of I-105 is the interchange with I-5. Freeway numbering then switches from I-105/SR 126 to just SR 126 as the freeway heads east into Springfield OR.
Rick
Interstate 8 ends at a stoplight in San Diego.
I-605 technically ends at the 210, but there's a ramp that connects to Huntington and Mount Olive Drives that ends at a stoplight. The ramp itself has a postmile sign labeling it as 605.
Both I-175 and I-375 end at either street merges or stoplights in St. Petersburg, FL -- and they're only about a mile apart.
Quote from: stridentweasel on September 18, 2020, 10:25:26 PM
Edit: Wait, did I goof regarding I-16? What's the deal with Route 25 in Georgia?
No, you were right about I-16. Here's a portion of the Savannah inset of GDOT's official map, which may clear it up:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ften93.com%2F2020%2Fsavannah.png&hash=bd98d2d2a045919bdebd05e9eba596668e10ba10)
Quote from: Eth on September 20, 2020, 10:07:27 AM
No, you were right about I-16. Here's a portion of the Savannah inset of GDOT's official map, which may clear it up:
Thanks! It's nice to see something that clarifies what Google makes confusing.
Quote from: cabiness42 on September 19, 2020, 04:52:22 PM
Quote from: CapeCodder on September 18, 2020, 09:00:00 PM
65 used to end at a traffic light.
It still does.
It's very weird. Going south from US 12/20, signage indicates I-65 begins there, though I-65 northbound is considered "ended" at the Toll Road exit...before the light at US 12 and 20.
How about I-194 in Battle Creek, Michigan? After going less than two miles north from I-94, it ends at a lighted intersection at Hamblin Avenue.
Quote from: someone17 on September 18, 2020, 07:57:27 PM
:hmmm: Well, how do I describe this? I'm thinking of like, freeways that don't end in an interchange with other interstate highways, and end at a limited-access US/State highway at a traffic light or stop sign.
The title says interstate: Are you thinking of interstate endings only, or any freeway ending?
The South Dakota I-190 ends at a signal as it spurs into Rapid City.
The west end of I-780 in California (the freeway section anyway) is a signal at Lemon St in Vallejo.
I-8 ends at a traffic light in the Ocean Beach area of San Diego.
I-516 ends at the light at Montgomery St in Savannah, GA.
Quote from: stridentweasel on September 18, 2020, 10:25:26 PM
What about Interstate non-freeways that end at surface-street intersections that aren't US or state routes? I think that's a category of one, although I think its signage ends where it ceases to be a freeway, because probably almost nobody calls the Holland Tunnel "I-78."
Isn't I-78's stub end in Manhattan still technically a freeway? Its intersections with other streets are served by very short exit ramps, and the streets don't actually cross the interstate.
I-291's north end is essentially a traffic light at its intersection with the Pike. Burnett Road quickly feels more rural.
I-194 ends in downtown Battle Creek, continuing north as M-66 on Division Street.
Quote from: SteveG1988 on September 19, 2020, 01:24:28 AM
I83 in baltimore ends on local streets.
And on the other side of downtown, I-395 does the same thing.
I-79 north ends at a traffic signal at Lincoln Ave. in Erie, PA. The I-79 roadway then transitions into the Bayfront Parkway.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1103667,-80.1212366,3a,75y,31.81h,91.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shUA6Jt2QqGRGGEq2Y0zXbA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1103667,-80.1212366,3a,75y,31.81h,91.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shUA6Jt2QqGRGGEq2Y0zXbA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Quote from: jmacswimmer on September 21, 2020, 10:02:43 AM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on September 19, 2020, 01:24:28 AM
I83 in baltimore ends on local streets.
And on the other side of downtown, I-395 does the same thing.
For that matter, so does I-395 in DC.
I-384's east end becomes a 4 lane divided US 6/44, which splits less than a mile away.
I-684's north end becomes a 2 lane NY 22, which joins the north end for the last few hundred feet at its last interchange.
And speaking of I-90. it's east end is now at MA 1A
I-391 ends at a traffic light in downtown Holyoke
I-587 ends in a traffic circle :)
And there is much debate about the north end of I-787. Does it transition to NY 787, or exit onto NY 7 and end at the east end of the bridge?
I-35 In Minnesota ends at MN 61 (old US 61) at a stoplight
Quote from: SteveG1988 on September 19, 2020, 04:21:29 PM
Quote from: 3467 on September 19, 2020, 04:19:01 PM
Illinois loves feeder ramps there is an entire thread on Great Lakes on just one but 88 really doesn't end at 80 . There is an 88 ends sign just past the cloverleaf so it simply becomes one of its old numbers Illinois 5
Also Interstate 2 becomes US 83.
In that vein, I-57 for now ends at US60, and just turns into a 4 lane rural expressway with cross traffic after the southern cloverleaf.
For now.
US-60 is planned to be upgraded to limited access with overpasses/access roads until the junction with US-67 at Poplar Bluff where US-67 upgraded will carry I-57 south to Little Rock, where it will have a proper termination onto I-40. Now, that isn't fully funded, so it may take 20+ years to come to fruit, but the new terrain route selection in Arkansas is moving forward with online public comment at this time, so progress is being made south of the border anyway.
Quote from: DJ Particle on September 21, 2020, 12:46:18 AM
Isn't I-78's stub end in Manhattan still technically a freeway? Its intersections with other streets are served by very short exit ramps, and the streets don't actually cross the interstate.
I guess you could call it that, although it seems like a stretch to me, but part of it is most definitely grade-separated by virtue of coming out of a tunnel. The portion leading to the tunnel in Jersey City, however, is most definitely not a freeway.
I-45's southern end in Galveston dumps it onto a surface road.
I-264 ends at a traffic signal at Parks Ave in Virginia Beach, VA.
I-564 dumps you onto VA 337 at its western end.
Quote from: Echostatic on September 21, 2020, 12:54:03 PM
I-45's southern end in Galveston dumps it onto a surface road.
I have always been fascinated with Interstates ending because of natural or political boundaries, or arbitrarily, because Texas has 3 (almost 5) interstates (35, 37 and 45; almost 69E-W) that terminate south because of Mexico or the Gulf of. It has 1 3di (110) that ends at Mexico and one interstate (27) that ends and US-87 continues it's legacy as an expressway. The rest of Texas' termini of interstates end in the middle of a freeway portion (45 north, 44 west, 345 south, 37 north), it defaults onto another like directed interstate (20 and 30) or at a "T" intersection (2, 27 north, 37 north-ish, 45 north-ish, 69C). Basically Texas has all the types of interstate termini there are and it's fascinating, yet I am still so bothered by the arbitrary. I-44 and I-27 bother me because it's lost potential and so doe I-37 to a lesser degree.
All that to say that I have always been fascinated with I35, 37 and 45's southern termini. So jarring to be on a long freeway and then have it end at a traffic light. I was always in the camp that felt like I-37 ended at the traffic signal in Corpus Christi.
I-17 ends at a traffic light. It's the only interstate I'm aware of that has sidewalks and restaurant driveways along its length (albeit only the first hundred feet).
Of course, it could be argued that I-17's true terminus is the McConnell Dr. Overpass, but there isn't any signage to indicate one way or the other.
Quote from: JKRhodes on September 21, 2020, 05:09:22 PM
I-17 ends at a traffic light. It's the only interstate I'm aware of that has sidewalks and restaurant driveways along its length (albeit only the first hundred feet).
Of course, it could be argued that I-17's true terminus is the McConnell Dr. Overpass, but there isn't any signage to indicate one way or the other.
Are you sure that's the official terminus instead of I-40? I always thought it was I-40. Wikipedia agrees, and so do the signs from I-40 and NB I-17: https://goo.gl/maps/6REr2r2BmVAzvRnD7 , https://goo.gl/maps/kEQJ377sr2scDCai6 , https://goo.gl/maps/6R6sDFZ3ozmHxSP39 . I'm inclined to believe this sign: https://goo.gl/maps/7ydHXyvb5NgiwXj96 , is shorthand for "TO SOUTH I-17," but hey, I've been wrong before.
Quote from: JKRhodes on September 21, 2020, 05:09:22 PM
It's the only interstate I'm aware of that has sidewalks and restaurant driveways along its length (albeit only the first hundred feet).
I-676 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9556269,-75.1491741,3a,49.9y,203.97h,85.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUQxQ3svWzf5pLM8fkC2vmQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1), I-78 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.730354,-74.0422251,3a,75y,98.24h,87.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s69rzIS3GiCa3kOGxivFV0w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1), I-70 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9994119,-78.2352391,3a,48y,274.26h,79.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sF7o3na_AIjdkkImzhKBBtQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1).
Quote from: stridentweasel on September 21, 2020, 09:33:15 PM
Quote from: JKRhodes on September 21, 2020, 05:09:22 PM
I-17 ends at a traffic light. It's the only interstate I'm aware of that has sidewalks and restaurant driveways along its length (albeit only the first hundred feet).
Of course, it could be argued that I-17's true terminus is the McConnell Dr. Overpass, but there isn't any signage to indicate one way or the other.
Are you sure that's the official terminus instead of I-40? I always thought it was I-40. Wikipedia agrees, and so do the signs from I-40 and NB I-17: https://goo.gl/maps/6REr2r2BmVAzvRnD7 , https://goo.gl/maps/kEQJ377sr2scDCai6 , https://goo.gl/maps/6R6sDFZ3ozmHxSP39 . I'm inclined to believe this sign: https://goo.gl/maps/7ydHXyvb5NgiwXj96 , is shorthand for "TO SOUTH I-17," but hey, I've been wrong before.
https://apps.azdot.gov/files/ROW/Plans/I-17/Index_to_Interstate_17.pdf
Page 11. End of I-17 is indicated at a length of road a small distance away from the system interchange with I-40. If the map is to scale, that would put the endpoint somewhere between the McConnell overpass and Forest Meadows Street (The stoplight)
EDIT: Corrected street name
Quote from: JKRhodes on September 21, 2020, 09:53:45 PM
Quote from: stridentweasel on September 21, 2020, 09:33:15 PM
Quote from: JKRhodes on September 21, 2020, 05:09:22 PM
I-17 ends at a traffic light. It's the only interstate I'm aware of that has sidewalks and restaurant driveways along its length (albeit only the first hundred feet).
Of course, it could be argued that I-17's true terminus is the McConnell Dr. Overpass, but there isn't any signage to indicate one way or the other.
Are you sure that's the official terminus instead of I-40? I always thought it was I-40. Wikipedia agrees, and so do the signs from I-40 and NB I-17: https://goo.gl/maps/6REr2r2BmVAzvRnD7 , https://goo.gl/maps/kEQJ377sr2scDCai6 , https://goo.gl/maps/6R6sDFZ3ozmHxSP39 . I'm inclined to believe this sign: https://goo.gl/maps/7ydHXyvb5NgiwXj96 , is shorthand for "TO SOUTH I-17," but hey, I've been wrong before.
https://apps.azdot.gov/files/ROW/Plans/I-17/Index_to_Interstate_17.pdf
Page 11. End of I-17 is indicated at a length of road a small distance away from the system interchange with I-40. If the map is to scale, that would put the endpoint somewhere between the McConnell overpass and Forest Meadows Street (The stoplight)
EDIT: Corrected street name
Upon further inspection, drawing indicates end of I-17 at a bridge. So its official terminus is at the McConnell Dr. overpass. It becomes Milton Rd just prior to the stoplight, which explains the sidewalks and driveways .The addressing of Denny's, Sizzler, and Del Taco on "Milton Dr." seem to confirm this.
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on September 21, 2020, 10:36:12 AM
I-384's east end becomes a 4 lane divided US 6/44, which splits less than a mile away.
I-684's north end becomes a 2 lane NY 22, which joins the north end for the last few hundred feet at its last interchange.
And speaking of I-90. it's east end is now at MA 1A
I-391 ends at a traffic light in downtown Holyoke
I-587 ends in a traffic circle :)
And there is much debate about the north end of I-787. Does it transition to NY 787, or exit onto NY 7 and end at the east end of the bridge?
I-787 crosses the Collar City Bridge.
Quote from: sprjus4 on September 21, 2020, 09:37:12 PM
I-70 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9994119,-78.2352391,3a,48y,274.26h,79.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sF7o3na_AIjdkkImzhKBBtQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1).
Even though I-70 traffic is compelled to drive through Breezewood, I do not think they are on I-70 there. That is U.S. 30 (Lincoln Highway).
Quote from: cpzilliacus on September 21, 2020, 10:10:07 PM
Even though I-70 traffic is compelled to drive through Breezewood, I do not think they are on I-70 there. That is U.S. 30 (Lincoln Highway).
I always assumed it was part of I-70, in light of the non-freeway section of I-78 and Wyoming's I-180.
Quote from: sprjus4 on September 21, 2020, 09:37:12 PM
Quote from: JKRhodes on September 21, 2020, 05:09:22 PM
It's the only interstate I'm aware of that has sidewalks and restaurant driveways along its length (albeit only the first hundred feet).
I-676 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9556269,-75.1491741,3a,49.9y,203.97h,85.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUQxQ3svWzf5pLM8fkC2vmQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1), I-78 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.730354,-74.0422251,3a,75y,98.24h,87.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s69rzIS3GiCa3kOGxivFV0w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1), I-70 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9994119,-78.2352391,3a,48y,274.26h,79.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sF7o3na_AIjdkkImzhKBBtQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1).
I-180 has sidewalks: https://goo.gl/maps/46a8g8B6LWbDfF7F9 . I wish I-70 did for that third of a mile, to be honest.
Quote from: JKRhodes on September 21, 2020, 10:01:37 PM
Quote from: JKRhodes on September 21, 2020, 09:53:45 PM
https://apps.azdot.gov/files/ROW/Plans/I-17/Index_to_Interstate_17.pdf
Page 11. End of I-17 is indicated at a length of road a small distance away from the system interchange with I-40. If the map is to scale, that would put the endpoint somewhere between the McConnell overpass and Forest Meadows Street (The stoplight)
EDIT: Corrected street name
Upon further inspection, drawing indicates end of I-17 at a bridge. So its official terminus is at the McConnell Dr. overpass. It becomes Milton Rd just prior to the stoplight, which explains the sidewalks and driveways .The addressing of Denny's, Sizzler, and Del Taco on "Milton Dr." seem to confirm this.
Huh! I did not know that!
Quote from: DJ Particle on September 22, 2020, 12:36:33 AM
Quote from: cpzilliacus on September 21, 2020, 10:10:07 PM
Even though I-70 traffic is compelled to drive through Breezewood, I do not think they are on I-70 there. That is U.S. 30 (Lincoln Highway).
I always assumed it was part of I-70, in light of the non-freeway section of I-78 and Wyoming's I-180.
Going east, it's signed as US 30 to I-70: https://goo.gl/maps/hKkJkKFZhapAK4KY9 , https://goo.gl/maps/R93Wxz6fVnyDW1o18 . Going west, it's signed as I-70: https://goo.gl/maps/7haZNiwYZUnFJbkc7 , https://goo.gl/maps/rcomJBzHEhyPYdhn9 . Perhaps it's a matter of the PTC and PennDOT not agreeing on how to sign it.
Quote from: stridentweasel on September 22, 2020, 07:27:32 AM
I-180 has sidewalks: https://goo.gl/maps/46a8g8B6LWbDfF7F9 . I wish I-70 did for that third of a mile, to be honest.
I-180 is a very special case, and from what I've seen, a sensitive topic for some. The Breezewood section of I-70 would definitely benefit from adequate sidewalks and turning lanes, unless the goal is to eventually let those businesses die off and tear them down so the freeway can be finished.
Even then, the freeway that actually needs to be built is well south of the business area. I don't know. It's... a mess, to say the least. I'm glad I don't live there and have to deal with tolls.
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https://apps.azdot.gov/files/ROW/Plans/I-17/Index_to_Interstate_17.pdf
Page 11. End of I-17 is indicated at a length of road a small distance away from the system interchange with I-40. If the map is to scale, that would put the endpoint somewhere between the McConnell overpass and Forest Meadows Street (The stoplight)
EDIT: Corrected street name
Upon further inspection, drawing indicates end of I-17 at a bridge. So its official terminus is at the McConnell Dr. overpass. It becomes Milton Rd just prior to the stoplight, which explains the sidewalks and driveways .The addressing of Denny's, Sizzler, and Del Taco on "Milton Dr." seem to confirm this.
Huh! I did not know that!
Honestly I was never absolutely sure either. ADOT is really good about providing end route signage on its US routes and state routes. Interstates, not so much. Perhaps in this instance the lack of signage is justified because it would be superfluous with everything else going on at those junctions.
Quote from: JKRhodes on September 22, 2020, 08:20:26 AM
Quote from: stridentweasel on September 22, 2020, 07:27:32 AM
I-180 has sidewalks: https://goo.gl/maps/46a8g8B6LWbDfF7F9 . I wish I-70 did for that third of a mile, to be honest.
I-180 is a very special case, and from what I've seen, a sensitive topic for some. The Breezewood section of I-70 would definitely benefit from adequate sidewalks and turning lanes, unless the goal is to eventually let those businesses die off and tear them down so the freeway can be finished.
Even then, the freeway that actually needs to be built is well south of the business area. I don't know. It's... a mess, to say the least. I'm glad I don't live there and have to deal with tolls.
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https://apps.azdot.gov/files/ROW/Plans/I-17/Index_to_Interstate_17.pdf
Page 11. End of I-17 is indicated at a length of road a small distance away from the system interchange with I-40. If the map is to scale, that would put the endpoint somewhere between the McConnell overpass and Forest Meadows Street (The stoplight)
EDIT: Corrected street name
Upon further inspection, drawing indicates end of I-17 at a bridge. So its official terminus is at the McConnell Dr. overpass. It becomes Milton Rd just prior to the stoplight, which explains the sidewalks and driveways .The addressing of Denny's, Sizzler, and Del Taco on "Milton Dr." seem to confirm this.
Huh! I did not know that!
Honestly I was never absolutely sure either. ADOT is really good about providing end route signage on its US routes and state routes. Interstates, not so much. Perhaps in this instance the lack of signage is justified because it would be superfluous with everything else going on at those junctions.
Strangely enough, I don't really consider Breezewood as a gap, but it still infuriates me. I think of it as a crappy ramp to get from one freeway to the Pennsylvania Turnpike. Now if it was one continuous freeway that had an at-grade intersection randomly in the middle with a traffic light, now that's a gap.
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on September 22, 2020, 12:39:42 PM
Strangely enough, I don't really consider Breezewood as a gap, but it still infuriates me. I think of it as a crappy ramp to get from one freeway to the Pennsylvania Turnpike. Now if it was one continuous freeway that had an at-grade intersection randomly in the middle with a traffic light, now that's a gap.
The part that bothers me is how the people at that gas station and Days Inn must live in constant fear of having their business plowed into by a drunk, inattentive or sleepy driver. Then again I've never been in the area so I don't know if this has ever been a problem.
Would I-370 have counted at both ends before the tie in with MD 200 (when it still ended at Shady Grove Metro)?
Quote from: nwi_navigator_1181 on September 20, 2020, 10:54:58 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on September 19, 2020, 04:52:22 PM
Quote from: CapeCodder on September 18, 2020, 09:00:00 PM
65 used to end at a traffic light.
It still does.
It’s very weird. Going south from US 12/20, signage indicates I-65 begins there, though I-65 northbound is considered “ended” at the Toll Road exit...before the light at US 12 and 20.
How about I-194 in Battle Creek, Michigan? After going less than two miles north from I-94, it ends at a lighted intersection at Hamblin Avenue.
There are still blue 2/10 mile markers northbound on 65 past the Toll Road exit. The yellow "65 Ends" sign is advisory but doesn't really indicate that the designation ends there. INDOT seems to play fast and loose with ends; they have an END 469 assembly way past the actual mile 0.0 of I-469 at the traffic signal at the Fort Wayne GM plant which makes it look like the Interstate ends at the light, even though it really doesn't, the opposite of the I-65 situation where it does make it to a light. Northbound, right before the US 12/20 intersection, there is the green Mile 262 marker, even past the factory driveway. (Southbound, there is one too--along with a blue service sign!) https://goo.gl/maps/Wip3JX4YMaLccgLJA
So, i was on I-74 in Indianapolis IN yesterday, and i had to go past 465 on the southern end of the road, the I-74 mile markers continue to the intersection of Southeastern AVE and Garden Street. Technically that stretch of 74 just...ends there, but we all know it really goes up on the ramps to 465.
How about I-78's eastern ending?. The freeway ends at a signal with Jersey Avenue in Jersey City.
Quote from: SteveG1988 on October 03, 2020, 08:24:13 AM
So, i was on I-74 in Indianapolis IN yesterday, and i had to go past 465 on the southern end of the road, the I-74 mile markers continue to the intersection of Southeastern AVE and Garden Street. Technically that stretch of 74 just...ends there, but we all know it really goes up on the ramps to 465.
Right without looking I think MM 93 is there just before Southeastern but after I-465. I-465 is exit 94 but in reality it's within the 93rd mile.
Quote from: Flint1979 on October 03, 2020, 09:37:15 AM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on October 03, 2020, 08:24:13 AM
So, i was on I-74 in Indianapolis IN yesterday, and i had to go past 465 on the southern end of the road, the I-74 mile markers continue to the intersection of Southeastern AVE and Garden Street. Technically that stretch of 74 just...ends there, but we all know it really goes up on the ramps to 465.
Right without looking I think MM 93 is there just before Southeastern but after I-465. I-465 is exit 94 but in reality it's within the 93rd mile.
There is a MM94 inside 465's beltway. Someone got carried away.
Quote from: roadman65 on October 03, 2020, 09:22:00 AM
How about I-78's eastern ending?. The freeway ends at a signal with Jersey Avenue in Jersey City.
RE: I-78. That is one of those weird things where the freeway section ends...but then continues through the tunnel to a traffic circle in NYC...it's weird
RE: 74. MM94 is on the road after it crosses under 465 and turns into a local road. It's weird.
Quote from: PurdueBill on September 27, 2020, 11:26:53 PM
Quote from: nwi_navigator_1181 on September 20, 2020, 10:54:58 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on September 19, 2020, 04:52:22 PM
Quote from: CapeCodder on September 18, 2020, 09:00:00 PM
65 used to end at a traffic light.
It still does.
It’s very weird. Going south from US 12/20, signage indicates I-65 begins there, though I-65 northbound is considered “ended” at the Toll Road exit...before the light at US 12 and 20.
How about I-194 in Battle Creek, Michigan? After going less than two miles north from I-94, it ends at a lighted intersection at Hamblin Avenue.
There are still blue 2/10 mile markers northbound on 65 past the Toll Road exit. The yellow "65 Ends" sign is advisory but doesn't really indicate that the designation ends there. INDOT seems to play fast and loose with ends; they have an END 469 assembly way past the actual mile 0.0 of I-469 at the traffic signal at the Fort Wayne GM plant which makes it look like the Interstate ends at the light, even though it really doesn't, the opposite of the I-65 situation where it does make it to a light. Northbound, right before the US 12/20 intersection, there is the green Mile 262 marker, even past the factory driveway. (Southbound, there is one too--along with a blue service sign!) https://goo.gl/maps/Wip3JX4YMaLccgLJA
Having grown up in Gary (and remembering the back and forth over that) 65 ended at the Toll Road on ramp forEVER. There was a HARD RIGHT turn where the Exit 261 ramp was - which was technically the end of the interstate. It took them a good 20 years after I-65 was built before it was extended the extra quarter mile or so to 12/20. Something about the wetlands and ownership of the property. It was an ugly fight.
When they FINALLY extended the roadway to Dunes Highway, THAT became the end of the interstate. I know there's a lot of back and forth as far as the state is concerned, but as I recall, the feds, at some point, finally stepped in and made the designation (which was part of the reason for the big have to do over the 262 mile marker).
For the life of me, I can't recall the exact year, but I do recall an article in the Post-Tribune that talked about it when they finally cut the ribbon on it.
Quote from: mhking on October 05, 2020, 12:44:46 AM
Having grown up in Gary (and remembering the back and forth over that) 65 ended at the Toll Road on ramp forEVER. There was a HARD RIGHT turn where the Exit 261 ramp was - which was technically the end of the interstate. It took them a good 20 years after I-65 was built before it was extended the extra quarter mile or so to 12/20. Something about the wetlands and ownership of the property. It was an ugly fight.
When they FINALLY extended the roadway to Dunes Highway, THAT became the end of the interstate. I know there's a lot of back and forth as far as the state is concerned, but as I recall, the feds, at some point, finally stepped in and made the designation (which was part of the reason for the big have to do over the 262 mile marker).
For the life of me, I can't recall the exact year, but I do recall an article in the Post-Tribune that talked about it when they finally cut the ribbon on it.
Fascinating. Here's a picture I found showing the area in 1967.
(https://i.imgur.com/U2ciQi8.png)
Interestingly, before that, the area was just a ramp from 15th Avenue for the Toll Road.
(https://i.imgur.com/tjZt2PZ.png)
Quote from: SteveG1988 on October 03, 2020, 08:33:51 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on October 03, 2020, 09:37:15 AM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on October 03, 2020, 08:24:13 AM
So, i was on I-74 in Indianapolis IN yesterday, and i had to go past 465 on the southern end of the road, the I-74 mile markers continue to the intersection of Southeastern AVE and Garden Street. Technically that stretch of 74 just...ends there, but we all know it really goes up on the ramps to 465.
Right without looking I think MM 93 is there just before Southeastern but after I-465. I-465 is exit 94 but in reality it's within the 93rd mile.
There is a MM94 inside 465's beltway. Someone got carried away. Quote from: roadman65 on October 03, 2020, 09:22:00 AM
How about I-78's eastern ending?. The freeway ends at a signal with Jersey Avenue in Jersey City.
RE: I-78. That is one of those weird things where the freeway section ends...but then continues through the tunnel to a traffic circle in NYC...it's weird
RE: 74. MM94 is on the road after it crosses under 465 and turns into a local road. It's weird.
MM 94 on I-74 is between I-465 and Fisher Road. Right here https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7324069,-86.0358973,3a,15y,240.5h,90.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdkYBkCbkR_lxYPf1tGJnAg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
You're thinking of MM 93 which yeah they have that posted on Old US-421.
Surprised nobody has said the northern end of I-79. Both I-535 and 794 southern ends are not at freeways.
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on October 05, 2020, 03:32:17 PM
Quote from: mhking on October 05, 2020, 12:44:46 AM
Having grown up in Gary (and remembering the back and forth over that) 65 ended at the Toll Road on ramp forEVER. There was a HARD RIGHT turn where the Exit 261 ramp was - which was technically the end of the interstate. It took them a good 20 years after I-65 was built before it was extended the extra quarter mile or so to 12/20. Something about the wetlands and ownership of the property. It was an ugly fight.
When they FINALLY extended the roadway to Dunes Highway, THAT became the end of the interstate. I know there's a lot of back and forth as far as the state is concerned, but as I recall, the feds, at some point, finally stepped in and made the designation (which was part of the reason for the big have to do over the 262 mile marker).
For the life of me, I can't recall the exact year, but I do recall an article in the Post-Tribune that talked about it when they finally cut the ribbon on it.
Fascinating. Here's a picture I found showing the area in 1967.
(https://i.imgur.com/U2ciQi8.png)
Interestingly, before that, the area was just a ramp from 15th Avenue for the Toll Road.
(https://i.imgur.com/tjZt2PZ.png)
Interesting that I see these maps. I always knew that before the extension to US 12/20, you either had to exit to 15th Avenue or commit to the Toll Road. More telling is that 15th Avenue had a direct connect to the Toll Road; I always thought the 15th Avenue ramps were a byproduct of I-65s construction, and not pre-existing.
That does explain this sign (https://goo.gl/maps/javraVSANq8oU65bA) at the intersection of 15th Avenue and Martin Luther King Drive, just west of the interchange. That is a replacement of this sign (https://images.app.goo.gl/JMNSE5wnpEkxb1No8) that used to be there for decades. The old sign likely predated I-65, since no mention of that highway is ever made (the practice continuing with the current replacement in the former link).
My question about I-490 in Ohio: is the end of that short highway considered to be at I-77, or at the traffic light just east of there? It's been a while since I've been out there.
Quote from: dvferyance on October 06, 2020, 08:29:08 PM
Surprised nobody has said the northern end of I-79. Both I-535 and 794 southern ends are not at freeways.
*Gasp* That sign! https://goo.gl/maps/EZhcLtbAoaLQTZ8q6 PennDOT usually does so much better.
Quote from: nwi_navigator_1181 on October 08, 2020, 07:16:10 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on October 05, 2020, 03:32:17 PM
Quote from: mhking on October 05, 2020, 12:44:46 AM
Having grown up in Gary (and remembering the back and forth over that) 65 ended at the Toll Road on ramp forEVER. There was a HARD RIGHT turn where the Exit 261 ramp was - which was technically the end of the interstate. It took them a good 20 years after I-65 was built before it was extended the extra quarter mile or so to 12/20. Something about the wetlands and ownership of the property. It was an ugly fight.
When they FINALLY extended the roadway to Dunes Highway, THAT became the end of the interstate. I know there's a lot of back and forth as far as the state is concerned, but as I recall, the feds, at some point, finally stepped in and made the designation (which was part of the reason for the big have to do over the 262 mile marker).
For the life of me, I can't recall the exact year, but I do recall an article in the Post-Tribune that talked about it when they finally cut the ribbon on it.
Fascinating. Here's a picture I found showing the area in 1967.
(https://i.imgur.com/U2ciQi8.png)
Interestingly, before that, the area was just a ramp from 15th Avenue for the Toll Road.
(https://i.imgur.com/tjZt2PZ.png)
Interesting that I see these maps. I always knew that before the extension to US 12/20, you either had to exit to 15th Avenue or commit to the Toll Road. More telling is that 15th Avenue had a direct connect to the Toll Road; I always thought the 15th Avenue ramps were a byproduct of I-65s construction, and not pre-existing.
That does explain this sign (https://goo.gl/maps/javraVSANq8oU65bA) at the intersection of 15th Avenue and Martin Luther King Drive, just west of the interchange. That is a replacement of this sign (https://images.app.goo.gl/JMNSE5wnpEkxb1No8) that used to be there for decades. The old sign likely predated I-65, since no mention of that highway is ever made (the practice continuing with the current replacement in the former link).
My question about I-490 in Ohio: is the end of that short highway considered to be at I-77, or at the traffic light just east of there? It's been a while since I've been out there.
The ODOT straight-line diagram (https://transportation.ohio.gov/static/Programs/TechServices/SLD/IR/0490/SCUYIR00490.pdf) shows 490 ending at 55th Street. Not that the mile markers are always conclusive but they are pretty good indicators, and Mile 2.4 was posted in the median (https://goo.gl/maps/BEqE2b3s4HKVzSKX6) just before the 55th St. intersection.
Back in 2000 I took a picture of the I-65 SB sign on the segment north of what was then the signalized intersection for the Toll Road ramp and the factory driveway on what was then finally 65; I had seen it several times and finally got a photo of it because of the novelty of the signal on the mainline; back then I had a film camera of course and it was pretty hard to get any good pics of things. The hard right was where the northbound ramp at the signal was so that is why there was the signal for so long, right?
(https://scontent.fbkl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/121150285_10114530333776568_3127847863748426865_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=gTGo6UpyisoAX_kDuq0&_nc_ht=scontent.fbkl1-1.fna&oh=ef6709dc286f0971d380a8e182ec1937&oe=5FA4C6F3)
Quote from: PurdueBill on October 08, 2020, 11:42:50 PMThe ODOT straight-line diagram (https://transportation.ohio.gov/static/Programs/TechServices/SLD/IR/0490/SCUYIR00490.pdf) shows 490 ending at 55th Street. Not that the mile markers are always conclusive but they are pretty good indicators, and Mile 2.4 was posted in the median (https://goo.gl/maps/BEqE2b3s4HKVzSKX6) just before the 55th St. intersection.
Back in 2000 I took a picture of the I-65 SB sign on the segment north of what was then the signalized intersection for the Toll Road ramp and the factory driveway on what was then finally 65; I had seen it several times and finally got a photo of it because of the novelty of the signal on the mainline; back then I had a film camera of course and it was pretty hard to get any good pics of things. The hard right was where the northbound ramp at the signal was so that is why there was the signal for so long, right?
(https://scontent.fbkl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/121150285_10114530333776568_3127847863748426865_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=gTGo6UpyisoAX_kDuq0&_nc_ht=scontent.fbkl1-1.fna&oh=ef6709dc286f0971d380a8e182ec1937&oe=5FA4C6F3)
Actually, that hard right
is still there (if not moved up a few feet to accommodate for the slope) and was completely independent of that traffic light (it sits just north of where the light was; northbound traffic can only enter the factory, while those exiting the factory can only go southbound...but use 15th Avenue for a turnaround if needed). Once the railroad crossing was out of use (one of the big reasons for the traffic light to begin with) and INDOT secured right of way, they were able to convert it to a traditional grade-separated interchange. A newer trailblazer for I-65 south is where the sign in the picture sat then.
EDIT: I realized you meant the hard right for the ramp from north I-65 to the Toll Road. The current ramp still follows the old footprint, but my above explanation for the light (the railroad) is still valid. My mistake.
Quote from: nwi_navigator_1181 on October 09, 2020, 12:32:00 AM
Quote from: PurdueBill on October 08, 2020, 11:42:50 PMThe ODOT straight-line diagram (https://transportation.ohio.gov/static/Programs/TechServices/SLD/IR/0490/SCUYIR00490.pdf) shows 490 ending at 55th Street. Not that the mile markers are always conclusive but they are pretty good indicators, and Mile 2.4 was posted in the median (https://goo.gl/maps/BEqE2b3s4HKVzSKX6) just before the 55th St. intersection.
Back in 2000 I took a picture of the I-65 SB sign on the segment north of what was then the signalized intersection for the Toll Road ramp and the factory driveway on what was then finally 65; I had seen it several times and finally got a photo of it because of the novelty of the signal on the mainline; back then I had a film camera of course and it was pretty hard to get any good pics of things. The hard right was where the northbound ramp at the signal was so that is why there was the signal for so long, right?
(https://scontent.fbkl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/121150285_10114530333776568_3127847863748426865_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=gTGo6UpyisoAX_kDuq0&_nc_ht=scontent.fbkl1-1.fna&oh=ef6709dc286f0971d380a8e182ec1937&oe=5FA4C6F3)
Actually, that hard right is still there (if not moved up a few feet to accommodate for the slope) and was completely independent of that traffic light (it sits just north of where the light was; northbound traffic can only enter the factory, while those exiting the factory can only go southbound...but use 15th Avenue for a turnaround if needed). Once the railroad crossing was out of use (one of the big reasons for the traffic light to begin with) and INDOT secured right of way, they were able to convert it to a traditional grade-separated interchange. A newer trailblazer for I-65 south is where the sign in the picture sat then.
EDIT: I realized you meant the hard right for the ramp from north I-65 to the Toll Road. The current ramp still follows the old footprint, but my above explanation for the light (the railroad) is still valid. My mistake.
No worries.
The gate in your photo was an entrance off of a short gravel road back in the day.
If you were headed east on 12/20, you would bear to the right to enter the Toll Road at the ramp just past the location of the current light. That ramp was not changed. As the overhead views posted above indicated, I-65 ran north directly into the 15th Avenue/Toll Road ramp -- which was separate from the Dunes Highway ramp.
I wouldn't be surprised if all of it had been planned out in advance, just not constructed.
But yeah, the light at the tracks (I think that's the location of the old New York Central E/W high-line if my dusty memory serves me correctly) was "technically" the end of the interstate for YEARS. And yes, that's the location of the "hard right" that I was talking about. Eventually, whatever rights issues that were in play (whether it was wetlands, the railroad right of way or some other issue, I still don't recall) were finally resolved, and the interstate was extended the several-hundred feet further north to the current end at Dunes Highway (and the 262 mile marker).
I still drive through there when I get home. I was supposed to be there for my class reunion this past summer (Gary Roosevelt, Class of '80), but the pandemic put the kybosh on that. With me in my 50s and my parents in their 80s, I'm holding off awhile to head back to Da Region with all this COVID roaming around...
I drove this section of 65 both directions last week, and because of this thread, I was paying closer attention to signs than I normally do. There is a "65 ends 1 mile" sign at MM 260.8. Taken literally, that would put the end at MM 261.8, which is just past the Toll Road exit but not all the way to 12/20. However, the 262 mile marker is still there, the signs on 12/20 still say 65, not "To 65", and there is still a 65 shield on the SB lanes right after turning off 12/20, so even if by definition 65 ends at the Toll Road on some log book, that last segment of road is still functionally and practically part of 65.
Quote from: someone17 on September 18, 2020, 07:57:27 PM
:hmmm: Well, how do I describe this? I'm thinking of like, freeways that don't end in an interchange with other interstate highways, and end at a limited-access US/State highway at a traffic light or stop sign.
I-780 in Vallejo ends at Curtola Parkway @ Lemon Street and I-280 in San Francisco ends at King Street.
I-110 in Los Angeles ends at Gaffey Street. Note Gaffey Street is listed as either former CA-110 or unsigned CA-110 depending on the source.
(https://www.aaroads.com/ca/110/i-110_sb_exit_000_02.jpg)
(https://www.aaroads.com/ca/110/i-110_sb_exit_000_01.jpg)
I-705 ends at Schuster Parkway in Tacoma.
I-605 in the Los Angeles area ends on Huntington Dr. in Duarte
I-710 has 2 ends one at Valley Blvd in Alhambra and another end at at the CA-134@ I-210 interchange as unsigned CA-710 or proposed I-710 gap depending on the source.
Quote from: sprjus4 on September 21, 2020, 09:37:12 PM
Quote from: JKRhodes on September 21, 2020, 05:09:22 PM
It's the only interstate I'm aware of that has sidewalks and restaurant driveways along its length (albeit only the first hundred feet).
I-676 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9556269,-75.1491741,3a,49.9y,203.97h,85.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUQxQ3svWzf5pLM8fkC2vmQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1), I-78 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.730354,-74.0422251,3a,75y,98.24h,87.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s69rzIS3GiCa3kOGxivFV0w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1), I-70 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9994119,-78.2352391,3a,48y,274.26h,79.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sF7o3na_AIjdkkImzhKBBtQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1).
I-180, but barely
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.1332516,-104.81278,3a,75y,8.75h,58.49t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxgDI_Vvlf_GyPLTtHbGYWg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
I-10 in Santa Monica west end is at Pacific Coast Highway.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McClure_Tunnel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McClure_Tunnel)
Quote from: cabiness42 on October 22, 2020, 07:33:26 AM
I drove this section of 65 both directions last week, and because of this thread, I was paying closer attention to signs than I normally do. There is a "65 ends 1 mile" sign at MM 260.8. Taken literally, that would put the end at MM 261.8, which is just past the Toll Road exit but not all the way to 12/20. However, the 262 mile marker is still there, the signs on 12/20 still say 65, not "To 65", and there is still a 65 shield on the SB lanes right after turning off 12/20, so even if by definition 65 ends at the Toll Road on some log book, that last segment of road is still functionally and practically part of 65.
I'm not surprised. InDOT has been very loose over the years (witness all the routes inside 465 in Indianapolis, and now around Lafayette for US 52/231 & IN 25/26) with mileage and where they drop mile markers, and they've been that way as far back as I can remember.
Nothing they do with mileage would surprise me in one bit.
I-395 just dumps you off in the middle of DC, as does I-66.
I-264 transitions to the grid of VA Beach on it's eastern end.
I-89 in NH ends at a stoplight after intersecting I-93.
I-391 ends at stoplights in Holyoke, MA, as does I-291 in Chicopee.
I-787 ends in Albany at-grade at a signalized intersection, though I think technically it's milage count stops before the carriageways undivide
Had anyone mentioned how I-49 just ends at the TX state line in Texarkana?
***Insert KS Tpike meme image here.***
Quote from: MCRoads on October 25, 2020, 10:53:22 PM
Had anyone mentioned how I-49 just ends at the TX state line in Texarkana?
***Insert KS Tpike meme image here.***
It's pretty much understood that this particular I-49 situation is considered temporary pending funding and construction of I-49 north from there. Also, the state line just happens to correspond with the existing facility for the Interstate corridor (US 71/59) -- the logical place to temporarily end the freeway.
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on October 25, 2020, 10:00:21 PM
I-787 ends in Albany at-grade at a signalized intersection, though I think technically it's milage count stops before the carriageways undivide
Technically it follows "exit 1" to the Thruway.