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Question: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Option 1: 6 votes: 10
Option 2: 7 votes: 27
Option 3: other (specify) votes: 1
Title: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: STLmapboy on September 27, 2020, 04:28:20 PM
How many characters are on your state/territory/province/country license plates? In Missouri there are 6.
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: oscar on September 27, 2020, 04:46:26 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 27, 2020, 04:28:20 PM
How many characters are on your state/territory/province/country license plates? In Missouri there are 6.

In Virginia, non-personalized standard plates now have seven characters, not counting the state name and the insipid "Virginia is for Lovers" slogan. Some non-personalized specialty plates, like the "Great Seal" plates on both of my cars, have only six.
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: STLmapboy on September 27, 2020, 05:05:22 PM
Quote from: oscar on September 27, 2020, 04:46:26 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 27, 2020, 04:28:20 PM
How many characters are on your state/territory/province/country license plates? In Missouri there are 6.

In Virginia, non-personalized standard plates now have seven characters, not counting the state name and the insipid "Virginia is for Lovers" slogan. Some non-personalized specialty plates, like the "Great Seal" plates on both of my cars, have only six.
This question just applies for the base, non-personalized non-specialty plate.
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: signalman on September 29, 2020, 01:32:25 AM
New Jersey has 6. 7 characters was tried back in 1993, but were discontinued due to poor readability. Any 7 character plates that were issued were allowed to remain on the road so long as the registrant kept the registration active. They can still be spotted on occasion, but their numbers constantly decrease (obviously). 7 character personalized plates are a thing here too.
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: index on September 29, 2020, 02:23:19 AM
8 max for vanity plates in NC but standard plates have 7 characters.
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on September 29, 2020, 07:30:28 AM
In Indiana, standard plates have 4-6 characters, specialty plates have 3-6, truck/trailer/fleet plates have 8, and personalized plates have 3-8
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: -- US 175 -- on September 29, 2020, 10:06:07 AM
TX had 6 for several decades.  Only in recent years ( <10? ) has there been 7 character plates.
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: CtrlAltDel on September 29, 2020, 12:42:18 PM
California has 7 characters, a number followed by three letters and then three more numbers.

Or, to answer the question in another way, there are 40 characters that appear on California plates, the letters A to Z, the numbers 0 to 9, and four symbols: hearts, hands, stars, and plus signs.
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: jp the roadgeek on September 29, 2020, 12:45:41 PM
CT just went to 7.  Wish it were 7 when I was a kid, as my last name is 7 letters, and my mom's car (and later my first car) had a vanity plate with my last name sans 1 vowel.  Found out that another family member snagged the 7 letter version when the change was made (saw the plate one day on a car parked outside the supermarket, then ran into him a few weeks later and saw him driving said vehicle).  Standard issue went from 3 numbers/3 letters to 2 letters/5 numbers.
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: GaryV on September 29, 2020, 01:16:22 PM
Michigan standard plates have 7 characters and standard decorative plates have 6.
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: kendancy66 on September 29, 2020, 01:25:34 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on September 29, 2020, 12:42:18 PM
California has 7 characters, a number followed by three letters and then three more numbers.

Or, to answer the question in another way, there are 40 characters that appear on California plates, the letters A to Z, the numbers 0 to 9, and four symbols: hearts, hands, stars, and plus signs.

The CA gold on black plates that are not personalized have 6 digits.  One letter, then three numbers, another letter, and then one more number that always seems to be zero
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: webny99 on September 29, 2020, 03:04:48 PM
Just one: the Statue of Liberty.
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: US 89 on September 29, 2020, 06:33:06 PM
Utah has three standard issue plates. The two main ones feature a skier and Delicate Arch, and they have six characters in the format A12 3BC (changed from 123 ABC when the plates were redesigned in 2007). The third is a 5-character In God We Trust plate in format 1A2BC (recently changed from A123B), which is also the basis for a whole host of specialty plates.

Personalized variants of the two main plates can have up to 7 characters, while the others are still limited to 5.
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: mrsman on September 30, 2020, 08:07:52 AM
Quote from: signalman on September 29, 2020, 01:32:25 AM
New Jersey has 6. 7 characters was tried back in 1993, but were discontinued due to poor readability. Any 7 character plates that were issued were allowed to remain on the road so long as the registrant kept the registration active. They can still be spotted on occasion, but their numbers constantly decrease (obviously). 7 character personalized plates are a thing here too.

Good for NJ.  6 is definitely more readable than 7, but the worry is that they may eventually run out of plate numbers by only doing 6 characters.

I suppose they ran out of numbers of the 123ABC and the ABC123 format, so now they are going with 4 letters and two numbers.  One pattern was ABC12D seems to have been exhausted and now are running A12BCD pattern.  We'll see how long this lasts before they have to go back to adopting 7 characters.


Two good resources for the license plate geeks:

https://www.licenseplates.cc/NJ

http://www.worldlicenseplates.com/usa/US_NJXX.html

And of course there is wikipedia.

Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: STLmapboy on September 30, 2020, 09:48:16 AM
Quote from: mrsman on September 30, 2020, 08:07:52 AM
Quote from: signalman on September 29, 2020, 01:32:25 AM
New Jersey has 6. 7 characters was tried back in 1993, but were discontinued due to poor readability. Any 7 character plates that were issued were allowed to remain on the road so long as the registrant kept the registration active. They can still be spotted on occasion, but their numbers constantly decrease (obviously). 7 character personalized plates are a thing here too.

Good for NJ.  6 is definitely more readable than 7, but the worry is that they may eventually run out of plate numbers by only doing 6 characters.

I suppose they ran out of numbers of the 123ABC and the ABC123 format, so now they are going with 4 letters and two numbers.  One pattern was ABC12D seems to have been exhausted and now are running A12BCD pattern.  We'll see how long this lasts before they have to go back to adopting 7 characters.


Two good resources for the license plate geeks:

https://www.licenseplates.cc/NJ

http://www.worldlicenseplates.com/usa/US_NJXX.html

And of course there is wikipedia.
NJ is one of the more populous states with 6-character. I can see Florida shifting to 7 in the next few years.
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: jeffandnicole on September 30, 2020, 10:05:40 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 30, 2020, 09:48:16 AM
Quote from: mrsman on September 30, 2020, 08:07:52 AM
Quote from: signalman on September 29, 2020, 01:32:25 AM
New Jersey has 6. 7 characters was tried back in 1993, but were discontinued due to poor readability. Any 7 character plates that were issued were allowed to remain on the road so long as the registrant kept the registration active. They can still be spotted on occasion, but their numbers constantly decrease (obviously). 7 character personalized plates are a thing here too.

Good for NJ.  6 is definitely more readable than 7, but the worry is that they may eventually run out of plate numbers by only doing 6 characters.

I suppose they ran out of numbers of the 123ABC and the ABC123 format, so now they are going with 4 letters and two numbers.  One pattern was ABC12D seems to have been exhausted and now are running A12BCD pattern.  We'll see how long this lasts before they have to go back to adopting 7 characters.


Two good resources for the license plate geeks:

https://www.licenseplates.cc/NJ

http://www.worldlicenseplates.com/usa/US_NJXX.html

And of course there is wikipedia.
NJ is one of the more populous states with 6-character. I can see Florida shifting to 7 in the next few years.

In theory, 6 characters gives you over 2.1 billion combinations. Not all of them will be used, by a longshot, but even 20% is 400 million tag numbers.
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: hbelkins on September 30, 2020, 11:34:24 AM
Six if you don't include the dash between the numbers and the letters; seven if you do include it.
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: briantroutman on September 30, 2020, 12:54:08 PM
Pennsylvania went to seven characters for its standard-issue passenger vehicle plates in the early '90s.

Previously, plates generally had six digits–going back to the late '50s. Up through the '70s, the combinations of digits and letters on Pennsylvania license plates were so varied as to seem virtually random to the casual observer (like X08-844 and 315-J57). But around 1979, PennDOT switched to a more standard ABC-123 format. These were issued sequentially from AAA-000 up until PennDOT reached ZZZ-999 in 1991, at which time the agency reset to AAA-0000. As of a few months ago, we're somewhere into the LKEs.
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: frankenroad on September 30, 2020, 12:56:50 PM
Quote from: mrsman on September 30, 2020, 08:07:52 AM

6 is definitely more readable than 7, but the worry is that they may eventually run out of plate numbers by only doing 6 characters.


Some states do a terrible job of putting seven characters on a plate (the 1993 NJ plates were among the worst).   It depends on the font chosen and the use of a space or hyphen (or the lack thereof).

Other states use a font and spacing such that 7 character plates are quite readable.  I present the current OH plate as a prime example.
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: clong on September 30, 2020, 02:27:58 PM
Alabama is 7. County number (alphabetically other than 1 (Jefferson County - Birmingham), 2 (Mobile County - Mobile) and 3 (Montgomery County - Montgomery) followed by 2 letters followed by 3-4 numbers (depending on the number of county digits) to total 7 characters. The 3 counties were the 3 most populous at the time the system was put in place.
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: NJRoadfan on September 30, 2020, 02:39:42 PM
Quote from: mrsman on September 30, 2020, 08:07:52 AM
Two good resources for the license plate geeks:

https://www.licenseplates.cc/NJ

http://www.worldlicenseplates.com/usa/US_NJXX.html

NJ specific: http://njplates.moini.net/

NJ has since switched to 3M's digitally printed plates and use the same font that many other states with 7 character issues use (like GA and AL). They could try 7 digit plates in the future again if they wanted to.
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: STLmapboy on September 30, 2020, 02:48:22 PM
Quote from: frankenroad on September 30, 2020, 12:56:50 PM
Quote from: mrsman on September 30, 2020, 08:07:52 AM

6 is definitely more readable than 7, but the worry is that they may eventually run out of plate numbers by only doing 6 characters.


Some states do a terrible job of putting seven characters on a plate (the 1993 NJ plates were among the worst).   It depends on the font chosen and the use of a space or hyphen (or the lack thereof).

Other states use a font and spacing such that 7 character plates are quite readable.  I present the current OH plate as a prime example.
Georgia's pretty bad. Someone in the NC thread mentioned that North Carolina's looks fine, and I'll have to concur.
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: jakeroot on October 01, 2020, 03:15:47 AM
Washington State uses 7 characters (AAA0000). These came into effect in 2010, after the previous 000-AAA plates ran out (after switching from AAA-000). Washington does not seem keen on mixing up letters and numbers, prefering to keep them together. The only exception are non-passenger vehicles, which use the A00000A format and have since 1995. To the best of my knowledge, WA has always allows seven digit custom plates. The characters are centered on the plate.

British Columbia uses six characters (AA0 00A), after switching from 000 AAA (introduced in the early 2000s, succeeding AAA 000). Couple reasons instead of moving to seven characters: the font is too large to allow seven characters (smaller font might be harder to read); computer systems are heavily tied to six characters; as well, the current plate design has the BC flag in the centre and a redesign would be necessary.
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: DandyDan on October 01, 2020, 07:13:51 AM
Iowa has 6 characters on a standard license plate. Personalized plates can have 7 on the standard plate and the blackout plate. I believe it may also hold for the new Flying Our Colors plate and the college plates as well. Some specialty plates only have 5 characters, such as the ones that go to support the DNR.
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: cjk374 on October 03, 2020, 10:21:01 AM
In Louisiana, license plates on cars have 6 characters. All other standard plates (trucks, trailers, RVs, buses, taxis, etc.) use 7 characters (a letter followed by 6 numbers).
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: tchafe1978 on October 04, 2020, 05:41:04 PM
Wisconsin in the past couple years has gone form 6 characters to 7 because the state ran out of plate number combinations.  I have two older cars with plates with 6 characters and a newer car bought this year that has 7.
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: ftballfan on October 05, 2020, 10:39:16 AM
Michigan has mostly 7. The plates could fit 8
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: DTComposer on October 05, 2020, 12:21:30 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on September 29, 2020, 12:42:18 PM
California has 7 characters, a number followed by three letters and then three more numbers.

Or, to answer the question in another way, there are 40 characters that appear on California plates, the letters A to Z, the numbers 0 to 9, and four symbols: hearts, hands, stars, and plus signs.

California adopted this method in about 1980. It seems to take about 6 years to move through a leading number (i.e. moving from 1 as the first number to 2). They're currently nearing the end of the 7 series.

Prior to this they were on a six-character system, three numbers then three letters.
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on October 05, 2020, 12:33:41 PM
colorado has gone all over the place over the years.
when i was a kid, it was xx-1234, but sometimes xx-123, xx-12 or even xx-1
then they went to xxx-123 for a whilte.
then xxx1234 (no hyphen) but it was deemed too hard to read
for a while, it was 123-xxx.
now they're doing xxx-123 again, but i've also seen some that are like xxx-x123.

plus we have about a million specialty plates.
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: jakeroot on October 05, 2020, 02:32:45 PM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on October 05, 2020, 12:33:41 PM
plus we have about a million specialty plates.

If I'm not mistaken, Colorado has the most number of vanity plates. There's around 100, when you add up alumni, speciality groups, military, and others (minusing those that are the same plate with slightly different vertical codes).

The only thing I don't like about Colorado is that their fleet plates are radically different from standard plates. Thus rental cars are very easily identifiable. For more than a few reasons, I'm not a fan of this.
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: Roadwarriors79 on October 05, 2020, 02:48:03 PM
Arizona has been using 7 characters on their standard plate since 2008. Until recently, the current plates used the ABC1234 format. Now, there are just a bunch of random letters and numbers. This randomness has carried over to all the various specialty plates too, from what I have observed.
Title: Re: How many license plate characters does your state have?
Post by: SP Cook on October 06, 2020, 01:00:45 PM
WV has a unique, and incredibly wasteful system of 6 characters. 
First Series: *L NNNN
Second Series *LL NNN
Third Series *NL NNN

Where * can only be the numbers 1-9 and the letters O N or D, indicating the month the plate expires.  Obviously this is inefficient in two ways.  First the number of possible combinations is far smaller; and the DMV is required to maintain 12 types of stock where one would do.  The third series will be exhausted in about a year, no idea after that.  They said they were going to issue a new plate with a single series, but never did, about 10 years ago.