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Title: Begin/ End
Post by: roadman65 on November 01, 2020, 11:04:36 AM
Roads signed with Begin and END.

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Title: Re: Begin/ End
Post by: cpzilliacus on November 01, 2020, 02:33:05 PM
I do not like the use of BEGIN and END plaques for freeway-type roads. 

Wish all states would adopt the Caltrans-style signage to show drivers where limited-access roads begin and end, and entrances to limited-access roads - BEGIN FREEWAY (R 57 (CA)), END FREEWAY (R 58 (CA)) and FREEWAY ENTRANCE (G 92 (CA)).

Or these white-on-green signs from some EU nations, which IMO are pretty clear:

Begin (or entering) motorway (https://korkortonline.se/images/vagmarken/E1-1.svg)
End  (or exiting) motorway (https://korkortonline.se/images/vagmarken/E2-1.svg)
Title: Re: Begin/ End
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on November 01, 2020, 09:32:40 PM
Minnesota has this in a few places.

MN 7/Hennepin County 25
MN 100/Hennepin County 34
Ramsey/Anoka County 10 at the county line, even though the overall number stays the same
I-494/694 at the Woodbury changeover
Title: Re: Begin/ End
Post by: thefraze_1020 on November 01, 2020, 10:49:40 PM
One of each on the same post in Lynnwood, WA:
https://www.google.com/maps/@47.8318967,-122.2627773,3a,35.8y,171.51h,94.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sc1xf52oMPGJtf9R8QWEVBg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
The other direction used to have the opposite, but one of the shields has since gone missing:
https://www.google.com/maps/@47.8317056,-122.2620772,3a,36.2y,278.22h,96.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-Wds0mfEoVmW3YkZkv3-zw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Begin/ End
Post by: bulldog1979 on November 02, 2020, 12:16:55 AM
Western terminus of I-96 (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1733393,-86.2092992,3a,75y,309.03h,74.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7-MqQ3UAplJxvpBcwO5Ipg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) in Norton Shores, Michigan. The opposite direction has the corresponding begin/end sign.
Title: Re: Begin/ End
Post by: tylert120 on November 02, 2020, 07:36:06 AM
Quote from: cpzilliacus on November 01, 2020, 02:33:05 PM
I do not like the use of BEGIN and END plaques for freeway-type roads. 

Wish all states would adopt the Caltrans-style signage to show drivers where limited-access roads begin and end, and entrances to limited-access roads - BEGIN FREEWAY (R 57 (CA)), END FREEWAY (R 58 (CA)) and FREEWAY ENTRANCE (G 92 (CA)).

Or these white-on-green signs from some EU nations, which IMO are pretty clear:

Begin (or entering) motorway (https://korkortonline.se/images/vagmarken/E1-1.svg)
End  (or exiting) motorway (https://korkortonline.se/images/vagmarken/E2-1.svg)

I don't see how the EU signs are more clear than BEGIN or END. The EU signs look like overpass signs to me.
Title: Re: Begin/ End
Post by: theline on November 03, 2020, 04:16:20 AM
Another case with BEGIN and END on the same assembly, SR-205 and SR-327 near Garrett, IN: https://goo.gl/maps/gDSb6Lz8CgdVTEGb8
Going the other direction: https://goo.gl/maps/qceihmQCEtMTNdnDA
Title: Re: Begin/ End
Post by: jmacswimmer on November 03, 2020, 08:12:58 AM
South end of MD 3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.954295,-76.7170904,3a,75y,282.42h,85.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sS9mQEXFzz43MBmjZmzje7Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en), and north end of MD 3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0757103,-76.6295507,3a,45.1y,64.19h,93.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1su8qRKrF7H0PzvJtSMVt2Sg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1?hl=en).
Title: Re: Begin/ End
Post by: zzcarp on November 03, 2020, 05:34:17 PM
In the Denver metro area, we have a End I-270 and Begin West US 36 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8280211,-104.9801055,3a,44.7y,281.64h,91.86t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sOgxubP0kicmKQKSRKKtfdg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DOgxubP0kicmKQKSRKKtfdg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D28.890533%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192).

Eastbound, we only have an I-270 East Begin (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.827435,-104.9841571,3a,68.7y,82.41h,86.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCOz8oULuspVHfNsUip78vw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192). This is accurate since US 36, while unsigned, overlaps I-270/I-70 east to Byers.
Title: Re: Begin/ End
Post by: ari-s-drives on November 06, 2020, 03:17:32 PM
Southbound I-95 has a begin sign at the border in Houlton, ME and an end sign in Miami.

NB 95 has an end sign in Houlton, but no corresponding begin sign.

Edit: Fixed state abbreviation
Title: Re: Begin/ End
Post by: 1995hoo on November 06, 2020, 03:23:29 PM
Quote from: ari-s-drives on November 06, 2020, 03:17:32 PM
Southbound I-95 has a begin sign at the border in Houlton, MN and an end sign in Miami.

NB 95 has an end sign in Houlton, but no corresponding begin sign.

I believe you mean Houlton, ME. I-95 doesn't go to Minnesota.
Title: Re: Begin/ End
Post by: ari-s-drives on November 06, 2020, 04:13:47 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 06, 2020, 03:23:29 PM
Quote from: ari-s-drives on November 06, 2020, 03:17:32 PM
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I believe you mean Houlton, ME. I-95 doesn't go to Minnesota.

My apologies, fixed. That's what I get for trying to do state abbreviations from memory.
Title: Re: Begin/ End
Post by: Buck87 on November 06, 2020, 06:54:55 PM
End OH 420 / Begin I-280  (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5228074,-83.4630794,3a,37.5y,0.49h,94.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSncOF0ZS6jXzBGQ5fYsAlw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

I also like that this sign assembly has Chicago, Cleveland, Toledo and Detroit mentioned on it.