Boston: Albany area
New York: Ohio
For other cities, what is the furthest away place that they are on a control city sign?
From St. Louis, the furthest is Tulsa (350 miles), on I-44.
MSP: Madison
For Chicago, it would be Memphis
For Indianapolis, it would be Saint Louis
I-90 EB is signed as Spokane out of Seattle, so that's 280 miles.
I want WSDOT to put up a Boston sign in Seattle just for kicks.
As of last year, Miami remained on one sign near Petersburg, Virginia, just south of the I-85 interchange. The bigger and more well-known signs to the north no longer list it, but that one still did. I haven't been that way this year to know whether it's still there.
Charlotte appears on I-77 north of its concurrency with I-81, some 138 miles away. Not sure whether that's the furthest sign for that city.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on November 17, 2020, 02:27:27 PM
Boston: Albany area
There's one signed for New York City, but not general-purpose. I believe it's at South Station intended for long-distance buses, but I'm not sure.
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on November 17, 2020, 02:27:27 PM
Boston: Albany area
There's one signed for New York City, but not general-purpose. I believe it's at South Station intended for long-distance buses, but I'm not sure.
I thought the OP meant the opposite–that the furthest away Boston is signed as a control city is in the Albany area (similar to the second example, which refers to BGSs in the Youngstown area that list New York City as a control city).
IIRC there is signage for San Francisco as far north as US 97 southbound in Klamath Falls, this despite the fact that due to the redesignation of planned I-5W as I-505 between Vacaville and Dunnigan, one still has to take three different numbered routes total to get to SF from there (97 to 5 to 505 to 80).
San Jose, despite now being the largest city in the Bay Area, isn't signed all that far out from the region; IIRC it first is signed northbound in Salinas on US 101 (about 60 miles away), and southbound in San Francisco and Oakland (about 40 miles away from each). Southbound it is first signed from I-680 in Cordelia (65 miles north). Route 152 westbound is signed for San Jose at I-5, about 60 miles from the city limit.
For Seattle: Spokane
For Portland: Seattle
For Baltimore: New York (for some reason not Philadelphia)
For Washington DC: Richmond
For Salt Lake: Las Vegas (although many years ago I remember seeing an LA sign at a junction with 15)
For Stuttgart: München
For Brussels: Paris
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The control city for I-10 East in Tucson is El Paso.
The control city for I-8 West at the I-10 junction is San Diego.
The control city for I-10 West in Phoenix is Los Angeles.
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 17, 2020, 02:53:14 PM
Quote from: 1 on November 17, 2020, 02:49:44 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on November 17, 2020, 02:27:27 PM
Boston: Albany area
There's one signed for New York City, but not general-purpose. I believe it's at South Station intended for long-distance buses, but I'm not sure.
I thought the OP meant the opposite–that the furthest away Boston is signed as a control city is in the Albany area (similar to the second example, which refers to BGSs in the Youngstown area that list New York City as a control city).
After re-reading it I believe you are correct.
The farthest away that Chicago is signed as a control city is at the I-55/I-57 interchange, 392 miles away.
The farthest away that Indianapolis is signed as a control city is at the I-55/I-70 interchange, 239 miles away.
Quote from: cabiness42 on November 17, 2020, 03:18:17 PM
The farthest away that Indianapolis is signed as a control city is at the I-55/I-70 interchange, 239 miles away.
Are you referencing the Troy 55/70/270 interchange, or the East St Louis 55/64/70 interchange?
Earliest it is signed in Illinois is immediately on the IL side of the Poplar Street Bridge, where 55/64 does a short Express/Local split in East St Louis. The "Express" has 3 Controls: Chicago/Louisville/Indianapolis
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Quote from: cabiness42 on November 17, 2020, 03:18:17 PM
The farthest away that Indianapolis is signed as a control city is at the I-55/I-70 interchange, 239 miles away.
Are you referencing the Troy 55/70/270 interchange, or the East St Louis 55/64/70 interchange?
Earliest it is signed in Illinois is immediately on the IL side of the Poplar Street Bridge, where 55/64 does a short Express/Local split in East St Louis. The "Express" has 3 Controls: Chicago/Louisville/Indianapolis
East St Louis
Toronto is signed on an overhead BGS at least 340 miles away on the Pont Champlain in Montreal. Don't know whether there might be some roadside distance signs elsewhere in Ontario that are further away.
Then, of course, there's this sign with a "control city" 1974 miles away (https://goo.gl/maps/wprgiJzFv7tBURcX7). This is probably the only sign I know of at an interchange that uses all four-digit distances (even recognizing they're in kilometres).
Reno does well in this from three directions:
From Salt Lake City on I-80: 518 miles
From Las Vegas on US 95: 439 miles
From La Pine, OR at the junction of US 97 and OR 31: 370 miles
Some Louisiana examples:
Furthest away New Orleans is signed is at the I-20/I-59 split in Meridian, MS at 193 miles.
Furthest away Baton Rouge is signed is a tie. In Alexandria along US 71 it's still listed from before I-49 existed. 114 miles. And on US 190 leaving Reeves, LA Baton Rouge is listed on a mileage sign at 117 miles away. With both, it depends on the exact route and where you consider downtown.
Furthest away Shreveport is signed is 190 miles away at the I-20/US 67 interchange in southwest Dallas.
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Quote from: 1995hoo on November 17, 2020, 02:49:01 PM
As of last year, Miami remained on one sign near Petersburg, Virginia, just south of the I-85 interchange. The bigger and more well-known signs to the north no longer list it, but that one still did. I haven't been that way this year to know whether it's still there.
Charlotte appears on I-77 north of its concurrency with I-81, some 138 miles away. Not sure whether that's the furthest sign for that city.
All of the Miami signage appears to be gone. I-85 is still signed for Durham and Atlanta, though.
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on November 17, 2020, 05:46:35 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 17, 2020, 02:49:01 PM
As of last year, Miami remained on one sign near Petersburg, Virginia, just south of the I-85 interchange. The bigger and more well-known signs to the north no longer list it, but that one still did. I haven't been that way this year to know whether it's still there.
Charlotte appears on I-77 north of its concurrency with I-81, some 138 miles away. Not sure whether that's the furthest sign for that city.
All of the Miami signage appears to be gone. I-85 is still signed for Durham and Atlanta, though.
I swore I saw one remaining "Miami" near the US-460 interchange on I-95 South last month.
Is this driving mileage, or straight line? I'm deciding on Nashville, TN between Memphis and Mt Vernon, IL
Driving: Mt Vernon, IL 234 Miles
Straight Line: Memphis 195 Miles
I-24/57 isn't nearly as direct a route between Mt Vernon and Nashville as I-40 is between Memphis and Nashville
Quote from: sprjus4 on November 17, 2020, 07:29:00 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on November 17, 2020, 05:46:35 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 17, 2020, 02:49:01 PM
As of last year, Miami remained on one sign near Petersburg, Virginia, just south of the I-85 interchange. The bigger and more well-known signs to the north no longer list it, but that one still did. I haven't been that way this year to know whether it's still there.
Charlotte appears on I-77 north of its concurrency with I-81, some 138 miles away. Not sure whether that's the furthest sign for that city.
All of the Miami signage appears to be gone. I-85 is still signed for Durham and Atlanta, though.
I swore I saw one remaining "Miami" near the US-460 interchange on I-95 South last month.
Yeah, there's one still there.
I'm pretty sure Houston's furthest control point is at the I-30/I-369 interchange in Texarkana at about 280 miles away.
I would have to guess Galveston's is at the I-10/I-45 interchange in Houston at 48ish miles away.
Beaumont's is also probably at the I-10/I-45 interchange at about 80 miles away.
Los Angeles and Sacramento (each have the other as a control on I-5): 384 miles
San Jose has Los Angeles as a control on US-101: 340 miles
Cincinnati: Athens, OH (155 miles, OH-32)
Madison has Chicago at 150 miles. La Crosse is close at 140 miles, though it's only signed in one place (the US-14 Beltline interchange in Middleton).
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on November 17, 2020, 02:35:28 PM
MSP: Madison
Interesting how MSP signs Madison, but Madison does not sign MSP despite MSP being much larger. Madison instead uses Wisconsin Dells for the I-94 corridor, which I think is the right choice. And most of the control cities in southern Wisconsin are in place to help people from Illinois anyways. But if I was MSP I would use Eau Claire, Milwaukee, or even Chicago over Madison.
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Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on November 17, 2020, 02:35:28 PM
MSP: Madison
Interesting how MSP signs Madison, but Madison does not sign MSP despite MSP being much larger. Madison instead uses Wisconsin Dells for the I-94 corridor, which I think is the right choice. And most of the control cities in southern Wisconsin are in place to help people from Illinois anyways. But if I was MSP I would use Eau Claire, Milwaukee, or even Chicago over Madison.
To me Madison makes sense as a jumping off point to those two major metros. That said Eau Claire would be a bit more in line with MnDOT practice of using regional destinations as control cities over more significant long haul ones (Albert Lea, St. Cloud). Now that MN 60 is done, I wouldn't be opposed to changing the control from Albert Lea to DSM since probably 90% of traffic heading down 35 to Albert Lea is planning to blow through it into Iowa since pretty much anything along I-90 is better accessed from MSP by other corridors whether that's US 169/MN 60 or US 52.
Flagstaff has LA (465 mi), Phoenix (322 mi), and Albuquerque (144 mi) as its control cities.
Since individual cities examples are being mentioned:
San Francisco notably has no long-distance controls in the slightest! US 101 south is signed for San Jose (about 35-40 miles south), and north just to the Golden Gate Bridge. I-280 south is signed for Daly City (literally adjacent to SF, and about 9 miles from downtown), and I-80 east is signed for Oakland (9-10 miles east).
in San Jose, Los Angeles (about 360-370 miles south via US 101) is the furthest control city, followed by the indirect control of Sacramento for 680 north going to 80 (about 113 miles via the entire 70 mile routing of I-680 and 43 miles of 80 east), then Oakland (40 miles north) for 880 and Santa Cruz (30 miles south) for 880 south/17 south. 85 is signed going north for its Mountain View terminus (10 miles from SJ) and south to Gilroy via US 101 (about 30 miles south past the southern 85/101 junction).
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Sacramento-LA was already mentioned earlier in the thread. The other control cities in the region:
Fresno along 99 south (165 miles south)
Yuba City along 99 north (42 miles north)
Redding on 5 north (162 miles north)
San Francisco along 80 west (85 miles west)
South Lake Tahoe along 50 east (100 miles east)
Roseville briefly on 160 north (former 40 east/99E north) in North Sacramento (15 miles northeast)
Reno along 80 east (130 miles northeast)
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IIRC, in the East Los Angeles Interchange complex, Sacramento via I-5 (384 miles as noted earlier in thread) is the only long distance control, replacing the older US 99/Golden State Freeway/Highway control of Bakersfield. Otherwise everything is within the metro area: Santa Ana (30 miles south) via 101/5, Los Angeles Civic Center (4 miles northwest) via the US 101 segment of the Santa Ana Freeway, followed by Ventura (40 miles west) along 101 (and in the past, Hollywood at only 4 miles further out!); San Bernardino (55 miles via 10 and 215) for 10 east, Pomona (28 miles east) on 60, Santa Monica (20 miles west) via 10 west.
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San Diego has the following destinations:
Escondido for Route 163 (former US 395) - 30.5 miles
Los Angeles for I-5 and I-805 - 120 miles
El Centro for I-8 east - 114 miles
"Beaches" for I-8 west - 5 miles from I-5
Riverside for 15 north - 101 miles north from I-5/Route 15 junction to Riverside via I-215 north
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Quote from: sprjus4 on November 17, 2020, 07:29:00 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on November 17, 2020, 05:46:35 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 17, 2020, 02:49:01 PM
As of last year, Miami remained on one sign near Petersburg, Virginia, just south of the I-85 interchange. The bigger and more well-known signs to the north no longer list it, but that one still did. I haven't been that way this year to know whether it's still there.
Charlotte appears on I-77 north of its concurrency with I-81, some 138 miles away. Not sure whether that's the furthest sign for that city.
All of the Miami signage appears to be gone. I-85 is still signed for Durham and Atlanta, though.
I swore I saw one remaining "Miami" near the US-460 interchange on I-95 South last month.
Yeah, there's one still there.
The one seen in this Street View (pan the image if needed) is the one I meant and appears to be the same one the two of you mean. I was hedging just because I haven't been south in a while–we normally would have gone for Christmas, but (1) we lost my father so I thought it was important not to leave my mother alone for Christmas and (2) I started a new job right before last Christmas and so couldn't take the time off. Then, of course, this year.... either way, I didn't know if the sign might have been replaced in the interim.
https://goo.gl/maps/enfQJprf8wAmdTjm8
Edited to add: Clicking through that area on Street View just now, I don't see any signs that list Atlanta–most list only Durham for I-85, except for the one sign that lists South Hill and Blackstone (I assume the odd order with the more distant South Hill listed first is due to Blackstone being along US-460, not I-85).
Quote from: TheStranger on November 18, 2020, 02:28:35 AM
Since individual cities examples are being mentioned:
San Francisco notably has no long-distance controls in the slightest! US 101 south is signed for San Jose (about 35-40 miles south), and north just to the Golden Gate Bridge. I-280 south is signed for Daly City (literally adjacent to SF, and about 9 miles from downtown), and I-80 east is signed for Oakland (9-10 miles east).
in San Jose, Los Angeles (about 360-370 miles south via US 101) is the furthest control city, followed by the indirect control of Sacramento for 680 north going to 80 (about 113 miles via the entire 70 mile routing of I-680 and 43 miles of 80 east), then Oakland (40 miles north) for 880 and Santa Cruz (30 miles south) for 880 south/17 south. 85 is signed going north for its Mountain View terminus (10 miles from SJ) and south to Gilroy via US 101 (about 30 miles south past the southern 85/101 junction).
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Sacramento-LA was already mentioned earlier in the thread. The other control cities in the region:
Fresno along 99 south (165 miles south)
Yuba City along 99 north (42 miles north)
Redding on 5 north (162 miles north)
San Francisco along 80 west (85 miles west)
South Lake Tahoe along 50 east (100 miles east)
Roseville briefly on 160 north (former 40 east/99E north) in North Sacramento (15 miles northeast)
Reno along 80 east (130 miles northeast)
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IIRC, in the East Los Angeles Interchange complex, Sacramento via I-5 (384 miles as noted earlier in thread) is the only long distance control, replacing the older US 99/Golden State Freeway/Highway control of Bakersfield. Otherwise everything is within the metro area: Santa Ana (30 miles south) via 101/5, Los Angeles Civic Center (4 miles northwest) via the US 101 segment of the Santa Ana Freeway, followed by Ventura (40 miles west) along 101 (and in the past, Hollywood at only 4 miles further out!); San Bernardino (55 miles via 10 and 215) for 10 east, Pomona (28 miles east) on 60, Santa Monica (20 miles west) via 10 west.
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San Diego has the following destinations:
Escondido for Route 163 (former US 395) - 30.5 miles
Los Angeles for I-5 and I-805 - 120 miles
El Centro for I-8 east - 114 miles
"Beaches" for I-8 west - 5 miles from I-5
Riverside for 15 north - 101 miles north from I-5/Route 15 junction to Riverside via I-215 north
Wish Cali embraced Portland, Phoenix, and Yuma as control cities.
Nashville used to have Saint Louis as a control point on I-24 NW of the Nashville core. Sadly that was replaced with Clarksville, TN. The I-65 south point was Birmingham, AL it is now Huntsville, AL.
I-65 north is Louisville, KY.
Found an overhead LGS using Ottawa as a control city in Sault Ste. Marie, some 490 miles away:
https://goo.gl/maps/YJ6DvkaZJQK74HM48
Pittsburgh: Middletown, PA at the Turnpike's Harrisburg East interchange with I-283/PA-283, some 200 miles away
Harrisburg: Gibsonia, PA at the Turnpike's Allegheny Valley interchange with PA 28, about 195 miles away.
Erie: Bridgeville, PA entering I-79 at Exit 55, about 125 miles away.
Philadelphia: Middlesex, PA at the Turnpike's Carlisle interchange with I-81/US 11, about 110 miles away.
Breezewood: New Stanton, PA at the Turnpike's New Stanton interchange with I-70/US 119/Turnpike 66, 86 miles away :bigass:
Orlando on Florida's Turnpike starting in Miami area 200 plus miles depending on location.
Used to be Wildwood on US 1 north at the Florida Turnpike south terminus back in 1990 at 305 miles out. I think Orlando is there now at 260 miles via the Turnpike and I-4.
El Paso on I-10 in SA at 500 miles out.
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 18, 2020, 08:19:20 AM
Found an overhead LGS using Ottawa as a control city in Sault Ste. Marie, some 490 miles away:
https://goo.gl/maps/YJ6DvkaZJQK74HM48
The sign facing the opposite side is for Thunder Bay, 440 miles without any intermediate points listed.
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 18, 2020, 08:19:20 AM
Found an overhead LGS using Ottawa as a control city in Sault Ste. Marie, some 490 miles away:
https://goo.gl/maps/YJ6DvkaZJQK74HM48
Wow, that's crazy. Doesn't quite beat the 530 miles between Chicago and Memphis though.
Quote from: Takumi on November 17, 2020, 08:12:00 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on November 17, 2020, 07:29:00 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on November 17, 2020, 05:46:35 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 17, 2020, 02:49:01 PM
As of last year, Miami remained on one sign near Petersburg, Virginia, just south of the I-85 interchange. The bigger and more well-known signs to the north no longer list it, but that one still did. I haven't been that way this year to know whether it's still there.
Charlotte appears on I-77 north of its concurrency with I-81, some 138 miles away. Not sure whether that's the furthest sign for that city.
All of the Miami signage appears to be gone. I-85 is still signed for Durham and Atlanta, though.
I swore I saw one remaining "Miami" near the US-460 interchange on I-95 South last month.
Yeah, there's one still there.
I must've missed that one, and I was looking for them too. I sure didn't do a good job!
I would say Hartford and Providence are mutual. Providence's farthest would be I-84 Exit 59 in CT for I-384, while Hartford's farthest would be I-95 RI Exit 22 for US 6 West. Both are about 75 miles from their control city. The funny thing: neither is the most direct route to the other :)
Quote from: thspfc on November 18, 2020, 10:46:59 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 18, 2020, 08:19:20 AM
Found an overhead LGS using Ottawa as a control city in Sault Ste. Marie, some 490 miles away:
https://goo.gl/maps/YJ6DvkaZJQK74HM48
Wow, that's crazy. Doesn't quite beat the 530 miles between Chicago and Memphis though.
I didn't compare it to any other one because I understood the thread to be asking for the longest distances we know of for particular cities, not the longest distance to any city anywhere period. If it were the latter–the longest distance to a control city anywhere–then the sign I linked in reply #14 that shows 3,177 km to Magadan likely wins.
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on November 18, 2020, 02:09:02 AM
Flagstaff has LA (465 mi), Phoenix (322 mi), and Albuquerque (144 mi) as its control cities.
I think you have the Phoenix and Albuquerque mileages reversed.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on November 18, 2020, 07:54:28 AM
Wish Cali embraced Portland, Phoenix, and Yuma as control cities.
They do - at (I believe) appropriate places. I-5 begins using Portland at Redding - still 421 miles away from Portland. I-8 uses Yuma starting at El Centro - only 60 miles away, but considering they're comparable metro areas, using the in-state city from San Diego makes sense. I-10 uses Phoenix starting at Indio - 246 miles away; again, using an in-state metro of significant size makes sense from Los Angeles.
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could support the argument that I-10 use Palm Springs/Phoenix or Indio/Phoenix starting at San Bernardino instead of the infamous "Other Desert Cities."
Bismarck ND has Billings MT as a control city.
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on November 18, 2020, 08:14:03 AM
Nashville used to have Saint Louis as a control point on I-24 NW of the Nashville core. Sadly that was replaced with Clarksville, TN. The I-65 south point was Birmingham, AL it is now Huntsville, AL.
I-65 north is Louisville, KY.
I was going to say, Mt. Vernon isn't the control point, Clarksville is.
As far as Kentucky's are concerned, for Louisville it would be St. Louis; and for Lexington, Knoxville.
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Quote from: Avalanchez71 on November 18, 2020, 08:14:03 AM
Nashville used to have Saint Louis as a control point on I-24 NW of the Nashville core. Sadly that was replaced with Clarksville, TN. The I-65 south point was Birmingham, AL it is now Huntsville, AL.
I-65 north is Louisville, KY.
I was going to say, Mt. Vernon isn't the control point, Clarksville is.
As far as Kentucky's are concerned, for Louisville it would be St. Louis; and for Lexington, Knoxville.
There are two ways people are reading this thread: 1) The furthest control city from a particular city's control cities and 2) the furthest away from a control city that the control city is mentioned.
For example, I read it as the furthest away that Nashville is mentioned is Mt Vernon, IL, and from the way HB read it it would seem as though Mt Vernon was the control city in Nashville (which we all know it isn't).
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Quote from: hbelkins on November 18, 2020, 02:55:40 PM
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on November 18, 2020, 08:14:03 AM
Nashville used to have Saint Louis as a control point on I-24 NW of the Nashville core. Sadly that was replaced with Clarksville, TN. The I-65 south point was Birmingham, AL it is now Huntsville, AL.
I-65 north is Louisville, KY.
I was going to say, Mt. Vernon isn't the control point, Clarksville is.
As far as Kentucky's are concerned, for Louisville it would be St. Louis; and for Lexington, Knoxville.
There are two ways people are reading this thread: 1) The furthest control city from a particular city's control cities and 2) the furthest away from a control city that the control city is mentioned.
For example, I read it as the furthest away that Nashville is mentioned is Mt Vernon, IL, and from the way HB read it it would seem as though Mt Vernon was the control city in Nashville (which we all know it isn't).
I meant the furthest away from a control city that the control city is mentioned, but feel free to answer both.
Quote from: I-55 on November 18, 2020, 03:58:01 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 18, 2020, 02:55:40 PM
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on November 18, 2020, 08:14:03 AM
Nashville used to have Saint Louis as a control point on I-24 NW of the Nashville core. Sadly that was replaced with Clarksville, TN. The I-65 south point was Birmingham, AL it is now Huntsville, AL.
I-65 north is Louisville, KY.
I was going to say, Mt. Vernon isn't the control point, Clarksville is.
As far as Kentucky's are concerned, for Louisville it would be St. Louis; and for Lexington, Knoxville.
There are two ways people are reading this thread: 1) The furthest control city from a particular city's control cities and 2) the furthest away from a control city that the control city is mentioned.
For example, I read it as the furthest away that Nashville is mentioned is Mt Vernon, IL, and from the way HB read it it would seem as though Mt Vernon was the control city in Nashville (which we all know it isn't).
I'm pretty sure the farthest away Nashville (TN) is signed as a Control is Mt Vernon, IL, on one little BGS on I-64 EB approaching the north split in Mt Vernon: To I-24 Nashville
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.billburmaster.com%2Frmsandw%2Fillinois%2Fimages%2Fto24e640911.jpg&hash=dafbc59e6e23578848eb2bdea788c8612886f4dd)
Sourced from http://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/illinois/interstate/24.html
There is a second little BGS for I-24 Nashville on the I-57/64 Duplex around Mt Vernon, approaching the south split, but that is a couple miles closer to Nashville than this one
Quote from: GaryA on November 18, 2020, 11:36:41 AM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on November 18, 2020, 02:09:02 AM
Flagstaff has LA (465 mi), Phoenix (322 mi), and Albuquerque (144 mi) as its control cities.
I think you have the Phoenix and Albuquerque mileages reversed.
I sure did. Good catch.
A little off the beaten path, but when I studied abroad in Italy last year I was fascinated that long-distance control cities were sometimes signed on surface streets in Rome, like here in Porta San Paolo (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8765084,12.4811923,3a,15y,134.48h,90.7t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSkFrTYYpzeqKtbo8IB1Vxw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192). Florence is around 180 miles away from this point by road, and Naples around 140, with the others being a bit closer (Fiumicino less than 20, Civitavecchia about 50, and L'Aquila about 75). Lots of other points around the city, and others cities in Italy I went to, where there are similar displays!
Quote from: stwoodbury on November 17, 2020, 03:03:47 PM
For Baltimore: New York (for some reason not Philadelphia)
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Where in NY do you see Baltimore? I never have.
I have seen 'New York' signed on the Mass Pike WB entrance at Copley Square in Boston; and at 395 in DC.
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Quote from: stwoodbury on November 17, 2020, 03:03:47 PM
For Baltimore: New York (for some reason not Philadelphia)
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Where in NY do you see Baltimore? I never have.
I have seen 'New York' signed on the Mass Pike WB entrance at Copley Square in Boston; and at 395 in DC.
I see signs for New York on I-95 in Baltimore, not the other way around.
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The furthest south I'm aware of for New York (signed as "New York City") is on northbound I-95 at Exit 161 in Virginia (https://goo.gl/maps/b9hyboEXhiCo5zpd9). But that's only about 260 miles from New York City, whereas the ones in Ohio where I-76 and I-80 come together to enter and leave the Ohio Turnpike are about 400 miles from New York City.
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 18, 2020, 07:36:08 AM
Edited to add: Clicking through that area on Street View just now, I don't see any signs that list Atlanta–most list only Durham for I-85, except for the one sign that lists South Hill and Blackstone (I assume the odd order with the more distant South Hill listed first is due to Blackstone being along US-460, not I-85).
At least one of the recently replaced signs within 2 miles still lists Atlanta, plus there's a sign north of the I-95 / I-295 northern junction that tells traffic bound to I-85 South Durham / Atlanta use I-95 South.
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 17, 2020, 02:49:01 PM
Charlotte appears on I-77 north of its concurrency with I-81, some 138 miles away. Not sure whether that's the furthest sign for that city.
Charlotte and Richmond are both mentioned on an auxiliary sign along I-64 East / I-77 South at their split in Beckley, WV.
Roughly 200 miles to Charlotte and 275 miles to Richmond.
(From "Ohio" to other parts...)
Fort Wayne, In, 110 miles (via US 33 from East Liberty/Honda plant)
Erie, Pa, 127 miles (from I-71 @ Oh 18, with signs for I-271 NB)
Pittsburgh, 155 miles (there is a stray Pittsburgh control city sign on I-70 EB @ Buckeye Lake)
https://goo.gl/maps/MAMxsFjju2VQVUYk7
Chicago, 243 miles (from I-80/90 @ I-280/Oh420, SW of Toledo)
New York (City), 403 miles (from the I-76/80 *bump*, west of Youngstown)
(Into "Ohio" from elsewhere...)
Columbus, 198 miles from New Stanton, PA & the west junction of I-76/70
(or...) Columbus, 175 miles from I-65/70 in Indianapolis.
Cleveland, 162 miles from New Stanton, PA & the west junction of I-76/70
Toledo, 214 miles from I-65 @ I-80/94 near Gary, In.
Quote from: interstate73 on November 20, 2020, 07:08:46 AM
A little off the beaten path, but when I studied abroad in Italy last year I was fascinated that long-distance control cities were sometimes signed on surface streets in Rome, like here in Porta San Paolo (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8765084,12.4811923,3a,15y,134.48h,90.7t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSkFrTYYpzeqKtbo8IB1Vxw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192). Florence is around 180 miles away from this point by road, and Naples around 140, with the others being a bit closer (Fiumicino less than 20, Civitavecchia about 50, and L'Aquila about 75). Lots of other points around the city, and others cities in Italy I went to, where there are similar displays!
Years ago, at the intersection where US 25W and TN 63 split in LaFollette, there was a sign for Cincinnati (which was misspelled) for 25W north. I have a photo somewhere.
Quote from: hbelkins on November 20, 2020, 02:02:38 PM
Quote from: interstate73 on November 20, 2020, 07:08:46 AM
A little off the beaten path, but when I studied abroad in Italy last year I was fascinated that long-distance control cities were sometimes signed on surface streets in Rome, like here in Porta San Paolo (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8765084,12.4811923,3a,15y,134.48h,90.7t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSkFrTYYpzeqKtbo8IB1Vxw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192). Florence is around 180 miles away from this point by road, and Naples around 140, with the others being a bit closer (Fiumicino less than 20, Civitavecchia about 50, and L'Aquila about 75). Lots of other points around the city, and others cities in Italy I went to, where there are similar displays!
Years ago, at the intersection where US 25W and TN 63 split in LaFollette, there was a sign for Cincinnati (which was misspelled) for 25W north. I have a photo somewhere.
When I first read this I was bewildered, but it's a classic case of regional deception, as I like to call it. Tennessee and Cincinnati are undoubtedly in different regions. Cincinnati, being north of the Ohio and not part of the Confereracy, is usually viewed as a northern city, while Tennessee has always been viewed as a southern state. But really they're not far apart. It's just Kentucky, a not very tall state, in between.
From Detroit, the control city for westbound I-94 is Chicago (280 miles).
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on November 17, 2020, 02:35:28 PM
MSP: Madison
Madison is 252 miles from the east 94/494/694 interchange.
Others:
Duluth (140 miles from first mention on I-35E at I-694)
Albert Lea (85 miles via I-35W, 87 via I-35E from first mentions at I-494)
Rochester (75 miles from first mention, US 52 at I-494)
Mankato (62 miles from first mention, US 169 at MN 13)
St. Cloud (60 miles from first mention, JCT I-94/694 in Brooklyn Center)
Stillwater (15 miles from first mention, MN 36 at I-35E in Maplewood)
Hastings (10 miles from first mention, US 10/61 at I-494)
Wayzata (2 miles west of I-394/494 on US 12)
[New] Delhi: Kolkata, 1200 km (750 miles)
Note: GMSV doesn't exist in India, and the Goog estimates it to be 1450-1550 km by its routings, so I'm not sure if the control sign on AH1/NH19 is closer to Bardhamann or Kolkata.
Guess I'll list all of Madison's others as well.
Chicago - 150 miles
La Crosse - 140 miles
Milwaukee - 80 miles
Wisconsin Dells - 55 miles
Dodgeville - 45 miles (this is a boneheaded control city that needs to be switched with either Verona or Dubuque)
Janesville - 40 miles
Spring Green - 35 miles (don't like this one either, would rather have Cross Plains)
That's pretty much everything over 10-ish miles, unless you count Portage being signed on US-51 in DeForest or Monroe on WI-69 near Verona.
For Des Moines, a few signs along eastbound I-80 list Chicago (340 miles) as the destination, even though most signs in the area list Davenport (170 miles) instead. Chicago isn’t even mentioned on distance signs along I-80 until you pass Iowa City, and isn’t the regularly-posted control city until you reach Davenport.
The furthest control city that is regularly posted would be Minneapolis for I-35 north (245 miles).
Quote from: iowahighways on November 20, 2020, 10:52:13 PM
For Des Moines, a few signs along eastbound I-80 list Chicago (340 miles) as the destination, even though most signs in the area list Davenport (170 miles) instead. The farthest control city that is regularly posted would be Minneapolis for I-35 north (245 miles).
Well in Boston, I think a singular NYC sign would be the furthest signed city.
Quote from: thspfc on November 20, 2020, 04:16:21 PM
Tennessee and Cincinnati are undoubtedly in different regions. Cincinnati, being north of the Ohio and not part of the Confereracy, is usually viewed as a northern city, while Tennessee has always been viewed as a southern state. But really they're not far apart. It's just Kentucky, a not very tall state, in between.
It is the thickest part of Kentucky though at that point, about 175 miles.
Quote from: DTComposer on November 17, 2020, 08:51:51 PM
Los Angeles and Sacramento (each have the other as a control on I-5): 384 miles
San Jose has Los Angeles as a control on US-101: 340 miles
Same mutuality with Las Vegas and Salt Lake (just under 500 mi) and Reno and Salt Lake (just a bit over 500 mi). Reno may even show up as a control city (previous inquiries prove that it shows up on distance signs and is more or less "continuously posted" thereafter) even EAST of Salt Lake.
Russia is going to have signs that dwarf anything anywhere else in the world and they only post to their frontier. IIRC, Someone posted a picture of a trailblazer distance sign that showed almost 4000 km to a city on the Polish frontier. ... and that wasn't a "novelty" sign. They could have posted the distance to Istanbul or even to Gibraltar, if they had wanted to be novel.
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on November 21, 2020, 12:39:41 AM
Quote from: thspfc on November 20, 2020, 04:16:21 PM
Tennessee and Cincinnati are undoubtedly in different regions. Cincinnati, being north of the Ohio and not part of the Confereracy, is usually viewed as a northern city, while Tennessee has always been viewed as a southern state. But really they're not far apart. It's just Kentucky, a not very tall state, in between.
It is the thickest part of Kentucky though at that point, about 175 miles.
192 miles border-to-border on I-75; the mileage would be farther along US 25W/US 25 due to its zigs and zags.
But still, it's odd that Cincinnati would be listed on that sign instead of a number of intermediate cities such as Corbin, London, Richmond, or Lexington.
Quote from: sprjus4 on November 20, 2020, 12:22:32 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 17, 2020, 02:49:01 PM
Charlotte appears on I-77 north of its concurrency with I-81, some 138 miles away. Not sure whether that's the furthest sign for that city.
Charlotte and Richmond are both mentioned on an auxiliary sign along I-64 East / I-77 South at their split in Beckley, WV.
Roughly 200 miles to Charlotte and 275 miles to Richmond.
Thanks. The only time I've been through there, I was going the other direction (westbound I-64 en route to St. Louis in 2017).
I think there's at least one sign along westbound I-196 in the Grand Rapids area (just west of M-6) that has Chicago mileage (the main control point for WB I-196 is Holland)
St Petersburg, FL, a city in the shadow of Tampa that is the main control city on roads leading to the Tampa Bay Area, is actually mentioned on US 19 in Monticello. At the CH Circle with US 90 St Pete via US 19 south is 244 miles.
That is even further than Tampa listed on I-75 which starts at 200 miles south of the GA Border.
Quote from: michravera on November 21, 2020, 06:27:39 PM
Same mutuality with...Reno and Salt Lake (just a bit over 500 mi).
My hazy recollection says this was true at one time (maybe in the 1990s?) but not anymore. The control city for eastbound I-80 in Reno is Elko. I was thinking about this specific issue the last time I drove out I-80 and I believe the first mention of Salt Lake City is on this mileage sign (https://goo.gl/maps/eAQJuPyK8vDEBAis9) leaving Battle Mountain. I think you have to get all the way out to Elko before Salt Lake City shows up as the control city on the on-ramp signage.
Quote from: michravera on November 21, 2020, 06:27:39 PM
Reno may even show up as a control city (previous inquiries prove that it shows up on distance signs and is more or less "continuously posted" thereafter) even EAST of Salt Lake.
Outside of two distance signs, the easternmost mentions of Reno are all at the Parleys Interchange on I-215 and Foothill. Everything east of there - including the I-80 westbound mainline at that interchange (https://goo.gl/maps/oH8UZpvweXbUZkmR8) - uses Salt Lake.
Quote from: thspfc on November 20, 2020, 09:50:15 PM
Guess I'll list all of Madison's others as well.
Chicago - 150 miles
La Crosse - 140 miles
Milwaukee - 80 miles
Wisconsin Dells - 55 miles
Dodgeville - 45 miles (this is a boneheaded control city that needs to be switched with either Verona or Dubuque)
Janesville - 40 miles
Spring Green - 35 miles (don't like this one either, would rather have Cross Plains)
That's pretty much everything over 10-ish miles, unless you count Portage being signed on US-51 in DeForest or Monroe on WI-69 near Verona.
Now that I think about it, Baraboo is signed in a few places along the Beltline, so add that to the list at about 40 miles.
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 21, 2020, 07:46:10 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on November 20, 2020, 12:22:32 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 17, 2020, 02:49:01 PM
Charlotte appears on I-77 north of its concurrency with I-81, some 138 miles away. Not sure whether that's the furthest sign for that city.
Charlotte and Richmond are both mentioned on an auxiliary sign along I-64 East / I-77 South at their split in Beckley, WV.
Roughly 200 miles to Charlotte and 275 miles to Richmond.
Thanks. The only time I've been through there, I was going the other direction (westbound I-64 en route to St. Louis in 2017).
It's also a backlit sign, but I've never seen it lit up, despite having gone through that interchange in the dark.
Quote from: hbelkins on November 22, 2020, 08:10:55 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 21, 2020, 07:46:10 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on November 20, 2020, 12:22:32 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 17, 2020, 02:49:01 PM
Charlotte appears on I-77 north of its concurrency with I-81, some 138 miles away. Not sure whether that's the furthest sign for that city.
Charlotte and Richmond are both mentioned on an auxiliary sign along I-64 East / I-77 South at their split in Beckley, WV.
Roughly 200 miles to Charlotte and 275 miles to Richmond.
Thanks. The only time I've been through there, I was going the other direction (westbound I-64 en route to St. Louis in 2017).
It's also a backlit sign, but I've never seen it lit up, despite having gone through that interchange in the dark.
The sign in question (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7486655,-81.2072171,3a,74.3y,186.42h,86.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7H2biYo-3LoabFVgLzryfw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), if anyone's curious.
Atlanta is posted 652 miles away on I-75 in Ohio.
The farthest city posted from Atlanta is Tampa, but that's not the farthest that Tampa is posted because Tampa is also posted on I-75 in Ohio. https://www.toledoblade.com/local/2017/06/05/New-signs-on-I-75-help-steer-drivers-to-faraway-places.html (https://www.toledoblade.com/local/2017/06/05/New-signs-on-I-75-help-steer-drivers-to-faraway-places.html)
Although the Ohio examples are what I would call novelty signs that are not strictly control cities. And Tampa in Atlanta is similar but is posted for the purpose of guiding through traffic along I-285 away from downtown Atlanta.
For standard control cities, which includes also being featured on mileage signs as well as being featured consistently on directional signs: Atlanta is the control city from Montgomery, and similarly the farthest control city from Atlanta is Montgomery.
Quote from: ran4sh on November 23, 2020, 03:11:17 AM
Atlanta is posted 652 miles away on I-75 in Ohio.
The farthest city posted from Atlanta is Tampa, but that's not the farthest that Tampa is posted because Tampa is also posted on I-75 in Ohio.
Although the Ohio examples are what I would call novelty signs that are not strictly *control cities*. And Tampa in Atlanta is similar but is posted for the purpose of guiding through traffic along I-285 away from downtown Atlanta.
For standard control cities, which includes also being featured on mileage signs as well as being featured consistently on directional signs: Atlanta is the control city from Montgomery, and similarly the farthest control city from Atlanta is Montgomery.
For I-75, isn't there a Miami sign in Michigan?
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on November 23, 2020, 08:05:10 AM
Quote from: ran4sh on November 23, 2020, 03:11:17 AM
Atlanta is posted 652 miles away on I-75 in Ohio.
The farthest city posted from Atlanta is Tampa, but that's not the farthest that Tampa is posted because Tampa is also posted on I-75 in Ohio.
Although the Ohio examples are what I would call novelty signs that are not strictly *control cities*. And Tampa in Atlanta is similar but is posted for the purpose of guiding through traffic along I-285 away from downtown Atlanta.
For standard control cities, which includes also being featured on mileage signs as well as being featured consistently on directional signs: Atlanta is the control city from Montgomery, and similarly the farthest control city from Atlanta is Montgomery.
For I-75, isn't there a Miami sign in Michigan?
That's on US 41 in Cooper Harbor at the far northern end of the state. Quite a ways from I-75.
Quote from: thspfc on November 17, 2020, 09:59:49 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on November 17, 2020, 02:35:28 PM
MSP: Madison
Interesting how MSP signs Madison, but Madison does not sign MSP despite MSP being much larger. Madison instead uses Wisconsin Dells for the I-94 corridor, which I think is the right choice. And most of the control cities in southern Wisconsin are in place to help people from Illinois anyways. But if I was MSP I would use Eau Claire, Milwaukee, or even Chicago over Madison.
So lo and behold I was out in the east metro today for the first time in months. They changed the control city to Eau Claire for 494/694 traffic at the 94 interchange in Oakdale, though it's still Madison on 94 eastbound proper.