This tends to come up whenever there's a discussion on the forum for odd control cities. Chicagoland obviously is king of this, with Indiana, Wisconsin, and Iowa accompanying interstate shields on BGS's.
Here's a list of each state and whether there are examples of their state name as a destination and pictures of the best examples. Preference should be for interstates and large green signs before smaller guide signs and mileage signs. What I'm NOT looking for: state welcome signs, city names with the state (ex: Rocky Mount, NC or Jackson, Miss)
I'll update as we go!
Alabama: none
Alaska: Old AB 43 at AB 40 in Grande Prairie, Alberta
Arizona: on River Rd exit going westbound from UT-7 near St. George, UT
Arkansas: none
California: none
Colorado: none
Connecticut: none
Delaware: I-295 south leaving New Jersey
Florida: I-10 EB from I-65 in Mobile, Alabama
Georgia: none
Hawaii: none
Idaho: none
Illinois: I-70 EB in St Louis, MO
Indiana: I-80 east in Chicago
Iowa: I-80 west in Chicago
Kansas: I-635 from I-29 in Kansas City, MO
Kentucky: I-275 in Cincinnati
Louisiana: none
Maine: I-95 north in New Hampshire
Maryland: I-495 NB from GW Pkwy in Virginia
Massachusetts: I-95 south in Kittery, Maine
Michigan: none
Minnesota: beneath MN 43 Mississippi River bridge in Winona, MN
Mississippi: I-10 WB from I-65 in Mobile, Alabama
Missouri: IL-104 in Quincy, IL. For US 24 west
Montana: none
Nebraska: US 77/US 20 Bus at I-29 in Sioux City, IA
Nevada: US 50 EB in South Lake Tahoe, CA at the "Y"
New Hampshire: I-95 SB in Kittery, Maine
New Jersey: I-95 SB leaving NYC
New Mexico: none
New York: "NY State" on I-84 WB in Danbury, CT "NY" I-295 on I-95 approaching Wilmington, DE
North Carolina: none
North Dakota: none
Ohio: I-80/I-90 EB in Gary, IN
Oklahoma: I-540 SB in Fort Smith, AR
Oregon: none
Pennsylvania: I-78 west leaving New Jersey
Rhode Island: none
South Carolina: none
South Dakota: none
Tennessee: none
Texas: none
Utah: US6/US50 at I-70 west on Grand Junction, CO
Vermont: on Autoroute 10 for Autoroute 35 near St Jean sur Richelieu, Quebec
Virginia: I-495 SB from GW Pkwy in Virginia
Washington: none
West Virginia: none
Wisconsin: I-94 or I-294 in Chicago
Wyoming: none
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Here are the pictures referenced so far:
Vermont:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201129/39c4442098907f7dfc82109426ed767b.jpg)
New Jersey:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201129/035ee8154e5de55340f31fa696500f61.jpg)
Oklahoma:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201129/066bb36a322c6aeabb65be01f3ab1da8.jpg)
Ohio:(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201129/5ac047b1d34d10baacb02e85ba0f24ab.jpg)
Kentucky:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201129/eb43d8312aad7d3b8388fdeb8cdbb67f.jpg)
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NY State (now says Newburgh)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201129/77eb6a3c539f0627fea428d98799d2d2.jpg)
NY
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201129/a065683cbf1bd0afa0b4e1bd19ae1e0b.jpg)
New Hampshire and Massachusetts:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201129/cc6f00568d95636615df234d32944b8b.jpg)
Maine:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201129/85c2241236e545a165e5fc6ef1ebbbc6.jpg)
Florida:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201129/75a6b80180b973da868ab22f0591c1a4.jpg)
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Mississippi:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201129/2f18399a5bcf2fca876d58c59ec58dd3.jpg)
Arizona and Utah:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201129/54c8dfcf972c5fb5494e287cb20aa673.jpg)
Maryland:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201129/315231076eb7bdb669c333ecf94741ac.jpg)
Virginia:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201129/bedaff9cbfb4fa8e13466473588c4056.jpg)
Illinois:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201129/a12ab9f8011631ad8a236f965692bc1b.jpg)
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Wisconsin:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201129/e24fc791d9bb7a4e07117cef1e1bea35.jpg)
Iowa:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201129/622ac713c1af5629f5e20ce3cf345693.jpg)
Indiana:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201129/0e65b9cad248c1fd9e94475774af981d.jpg)
Kansas:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201129/9a55b1fddab4dae49a16da8bf084d813.jpg)
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Here's an Ohio on I-76/PA Turnpike westbound approaching the I-376/US 22 interchange. (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4320939,-79.7458106,3a,75y,311.14h,98.06t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1skkU-ESseMeX5M7K_nOVwgQ!2e0!3e11!7i13312!8i6656)
Quote from: bassoon1986 on November 29, 2020, 12:03:25 AM
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NY
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201129/a065683cbf1bd0afa0b4e1bd19ae1e0b.jpg)
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Virginia has a conceptually similar sign for "NY — NJ" on northbound I-95 a couple of miles south of the Springfield Interchange: https://goo.gl/maps/TmTA9cLrEg2hNQXe7
I like this series of BGSs on IL 394 NB approaching 80/94/294, since it lists all 3 state-based controls in one shot!
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.billburmaster.com%2Frmsandw%2Fillinois%2Fimages%2Fnbil394halfs80.jpg&hash=e32238cc9fdfe60be2d08fdb27e37f068eaa0887)
Sourced from http://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/illinois/state/il394.html
And here is a US 24 BGS in Quincy, IL before the Mississippi River heading WB, with the "Missouri" control
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.billburmaster.com%2Frmsandw%2Fillinois%2Fimages%2Fw24ats570814.jpg&hash=29c2dd3941142ee018214b5fb96b2d931894be5e)
Sourced from http://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/illinois/us/us24adamsil.html
Here's one for Alaska, in Grande Prairie, Alberta:
https://goo.gl/maps/VqUDmUe6AypDG61A6
https://goo.gl/maps/T9SDktFk6sYEzdD36 (same intersection, from southbound AB 40)
It's for an old segment of AB 43, which was relocated a few months ago to a new bypass (formerly AB 43X) northwest of Grande Prairie.
New York on a BGS in Montreal: https://goo.gl/maps/wUmodhkGZsCW4RPm9
Nearby, Street View shows a temporary sign listing Vermont pending installation of new BGSs (the old ones had also listed Vermont and I-89): https://goo.gl/maps/kxgHSu3WePYK9yHW7
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 29, 2020, 11:44:49 AM
Nearby, Street View shows a temporary sign listing Vermont pending installation of new BGSs (the old ones had also listed Vermont and I-89): https://goo.gl/maps/kxgHSu3WePYK9yHW7
Here's a better example for Vermont, from Autoroute 10 north of St-Jean-sur-Richelieu, Quebec:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alaskaroads.com%2FSt-Jean-sur-Richelieu%2BChambyQC-DSC_5520.jpg&hash=8d116e078e8fdb945476ba50de62f4c805844626)
Quote from: bassoon1986 on November 28, 2020, 11:57:44 PM
Illinois: I-70 EB in St Louis, MO
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Illinois also appears on I-55 NB in St. Louis (https://goo.gl/maps/DruRUMsuHzQREPFy9), and on US 40 EB in St. Louis. (https://goo.gl/maps/1bzoJqz9mpA6ixjD6)
Iowa appears a few times for I-88 WB.
* At IL 59 (https://goo.gl/maps/va6U2QnviEYBD5rm9)
* At IL 31 (https://goo.gl/maps/tVSUD5CuAhWAs2Hz6)
Pennsylvania listed as a control in New Jersey:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6711987,-75.1307714,3a,75y,257.66h,97.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssTt7laFPQ3NtSjBViG76Rw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
New Jersey listed as a control in Pennsylvania:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.5854099,-75.5992132,3a,75y,66.88h,94.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMe3-XHMFSYyMzFKJqWls3A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0896249,-75.406418,3a,75y,280.01h,92.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4ZXCqNl9hzBiMADqqKYB-g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
Ohio listed as a control in Pennsylvania:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4351302,-79.7514799,3a,75y,76.04h,95.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suHmTK2xLbj3QP6hcpyYS6w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
Trying to include only ones that are different from what's already been posted.
Another Wisconsin, this one signed from Minnesota on I-35. July 18, 2015.
(https://www.teresco.org/pics/signs/20150718/exit253b.jpg)
Pennsylvania from I-78 in New Jersey. January 22, 2004.
(https://www.teresco.org/pics/signs/20040122/exit3.jpg)
Another New Jersey, this one signed from I-78 in Pennsylvania. July 4, 2006.
(https://www.teresco.org/pics/signs/20060704/exit51.jpg)
And the same idea from I-80. March 21, 2007.
(https://www.teresco.org/pics/signs/20070321/exit310.jpg)
Not an individual state, but the entire New England region on I-87 north in Woodbury. March 21, 2007.
(https://www.teresco.org/pics/signs/20070321/i84exit17.jpg)
Quote from: Jim on November 29, 2020, 01:36:14 PM
Not an individual state, but an the entire New England region on I-87 north in Woodbury. March 21, 2007.
(https://www.teresco.org/pics/signs/20070321/i84exit17.jpg)
I'll also add in this sign on I-81 approaching I-78, advising truckers to continue north to I-84 to access New England. Not necessarily listed as a control, but an honorable mention nonetheless.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4219922,-76.5364759,3a,75y,127.22h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slpvQ40m9dZKnOm9bbalNTA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
Quote from: ilpt4u on November 29, 2020, 09:24:59 AM
I like this series of BGSs on IL 394 NB approaching 80/94/294, since it lists all 3 state-based controls in one shot!
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.billburmaster.com%2Frmsandw%2Fillinois%2Fimages%2Fnbil394halfs80.jpg&hash=e32238cc9fdfe60be2d08fdb27e37f068eaa0887)
Sourced from http://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/illinois/state/il394.html
And here is a US 24 BGS in Quincy, IL before the Mississippi River heading WB, with the "Missouri" control
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.billburmaster.com%2Frmsandw%2Fillinois%2Fimages%2Fw24ats570814.jpg&hash=29c2dd3941142ee018214b5fb96b2d931894be5e)
Sourced from http://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/illinois/us/us24adamsil.html
The Chicago example is great! I thought I had remembered an all-in-one location from this forum, but I couldn't remember the location.
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Due to a relative lack of large cities on I-70 west of Grand Junction, the westbound control city there is simply "Utah":
(https://live.staticflickr.com/1768/28434682147_68e104b0e3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KjFbmt)
And that's the best choice, in my opinion. The issue there is that half of the westbound traffic on 70 will exit on US 6 to head up towards Salt Lake. Taking just interstates into account you could use Las Vegas or St George, but that carries a bit of confusion potential since those cities are located in the opposite direction from Salt Lake on I-15.
As this GSV from 2012 shows (https://goo.gl/maps/oiEzg9G5zAm9XFT86), the control city used to be Green River, the last town before the US 6 split...but Green River has just over 900 people. Probably the right call to just go with Utah here.
The intersection commonly known as "The Y" in South Lake Tahoe, CA. Carson City is the most distant city listed on some mileage signs on eastbound US 50 coming over the Sierra; it's only about 30 miles from this point and would be the more conventional choice.
(https://i.imgur.com/k1ZU3kQ.jpg)
Side note about "Lake Tahoe" on that sign: Some years ago there was an effort to name the unincorporated area where the big casinos are on the south shore of the lake as "Lake Tahoe". It never took hold and that area is universally known as "Stateline". The unmodified "Lake Tahoe" is reserved as the name of the body of water, and from this point it's equally accessible on either CA 89 or US 50. So this "Lake Tahoe" is apparently a reference to the casino area. The only other place "Lake Tahoe" is signed that way is on a small green sign on the traffic signal mast at the actual state line, right in front of Harrah's. Back to this intersection...further ahead, right at the intersection, there is another guide sign pointing to "Stateline".
Quote from: US 89 on November 29, 2020, 04:53:28 PM
Due to a relative lack of large cities on I-70 west of Grand Junction, the westbound control city there is simply "Utah":
(https://live.staticflickr.com/1768/28434682147_68e104b0e3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KjFbmt)
And that's the best choice, in my opinion. The issue there is that half of the westbound traffic on 70 will exit on US 6 to head up towards Salt Lake. Taking just interstates into account you could use Las Vegas or St George, but that carries a bit of confusion potential since those cities are located in the opposite direction from Salt Lake on I-15.
As this GSV from 2012 shows (https://goo.gl/maps/oiEzg9G5zAm9XFT86), the control city used to be Green River, the last town before the US 6 split...but Green River has just over 900 people. Probably the right call to just go with Utah here.
That's a better Utah example than the one from before. Thanks!
And we are up to 24 states! I did not expect to find that many.
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Quote from: bassoon1986 on November 29, 2020, 04:37:16 PM
The Chicago example is great! I thought I had remembered an all-in-one location from this forum, but I couldn't remember the location.
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There is also the one from the north, approaching that interchange as well, along I-94 East/Bishop Ford Freeway Outbound/Southbound:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.billburmaster.com%2Frmsandw%2Fillinois%2Fimages%2Fe94at80294b.jpg&hash=ee4673e34c2fe94260df758c1b6abba0eab995e2)
Sourced from http://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/illinois/interstate/94il.html
Maybe when I-57 reaches Arkansas and Little Rock, perhaps IDOT will change the I-57 Primary control to "Arkansas" in place of Memphis
Don't forget the signs on 295 in Delaware that have New Jersey and New York fully written out.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/3LBnZHTBZGqwN93AA
https://maps.app.goo.gl/PWEtv1rouCKimvbH6
Here's another good one for Kansas in St. Joseph, MO.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7458368,-94.8534146,3a,75y,1.6h,89.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR_Wj7yPBwnB1GsaaDvrEJw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7458368,-94.8534146,3a,75y,1.6h,89.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR_Wj7yPBwnB1GsaaDvrEJw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
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Here's an older one for Minnesota along some side roads abutting MN 43 crossing the Mississippi. GSV hasn't been back to update the new full size signs that exist there now with the full state names.
https://goo.gl/maps/SpFrNFSQrRYeAGbx5
Quote from: ilpt4u on November 29, 2020, 06:17:25 PM
Maybe when I-57 reaches Arkansas and Little Rock, perhaps IDOT will change the I-57 Primary control to "Arkansas" in place of Memphis
I doubt IDOT will change anything on I-57 unless Arkansas gives them extra money to due so. And I would hope if Memphis does come down around Chicagoland it is replaced with Champaign.
May have a former one for Nebraska on the southbound connecting roadway/ramps for I-29 at US 77. (https://goo.gl/maps/TKRT7VfH9jetC6P78)
There is a similar sign for NB. (https://goo.gl/maps/BKCoPXSKYZ5Rbdbq8)
Quote from: Revive 755 on November 29, 2020, 10:06:21 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on November 29, 2020, 06:17:25 PM
Maybe when I-57 reaches Arkansas and Little Rock, perhaps IDOT will change the I-57 Primary control to "Arkansas" in place of Memphis
I doubt IDOT will change anything on I-57 unless Arkansas gives them extra money to due so. And I would hope if Memphis does come down around Chicagoland it is replaced with Champaign.
May have a former one for Nebraska on the southbound connecting roadway/ramps for I-29 at US 77. (https://goo.gl/maps/TKRT7VfH9jetC6P78)
There is a similar sign for NB. (https://goo.gl/maps/BKCoPXSKYZ5Rbdbq8)
No way Memphis is replaced with Champaign, unless Springfield also replaces St Louis on I-55
I think IDOT will change it when I-57 is completed and signed to Little Rock. Probably more likely to sign it Little Rock than Arkansas, tho
For New York, I'm a fan of this one in Back Bay in Boston.
(https://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-photo-road-sign-to-new-york-city-via-interstate-boston-ma-131513006.jpg)
I acknowledge the ambiguity of the sign and whether it refers to NY City or NY State. There's a reasonable argument for either.
Ohio is also present on not one, but THREE separate BGS's off I-275 exit 16 in Indiana.
Ohio is present on many BGS along the PA Turnpike in the Pittsburgh area.
Allegheny Valley interchange https://goo.gl/maps/ZVSwoAK47aawuyVWA (https://goo.gl/maps/ZVSwoAK47aawuyVWA)
BTW, how about "U.S.A." as a control on a BGS? (Of course, there are also the signs on northbound I-81 in Upstate New York that use simply "Canada.")
https://goo.gl/maps/92AyF2nCPJu6jcPc9
The OP mentioned Maryland/Virginia on the GW Parkway approaching I-495. On the other side of the Potomac, the Clara Barton Parkway does the exact same thing (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.971719,-77.1888174,3a,44.9y,96.56h,86.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srSzIzzLVw9dV6JP-HX8bYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en).
Also if you count "Northern Virginia" for the purposes of this thread, it has a few appearances on I-270 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0358601,-77.1447957,3a,75y,162.37h,86.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqhQc1TkjKMI3BIUSxnDmUQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) & I-495 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0191372,-77.1033502,3a,45.5y,319.05h,93.56t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbGx4pXVJFqdJHrqnruBBNQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en).
(https://www.aaroads.com/nh/095/i-095_nb_exit_004_01.jpg)
Another one for Maine and the odd usage of "Maine Points"
Is NH the only state to use the state abbreviation after a city in its own state? Portsmouth, NH is the only Portsmouth in that direction, no one is going to think they're in Portsmouth, RI or Portsmouth, VA. It seems like that sign could be redesigned with "Portsmouth" and "Portland, ME" being the control cities.
Delaware doesn't appear to have been mentioned yet - it gets a few appearances on I-295 approaching the DMB from NJ (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6794173,-75.4894197,3a,75y,292.52h,85.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJq99SPzWbFCR0vA9zNPq7w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en).
Quote from: The Nature Boy on November 30, 2020, 02:23:35 PM
Is NH the only state to use the state abbreviation after a city in its own state?
Washington PA (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2178372,-79.6000422,3a,54.4y,306.82h,89.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKFYdHahmnmSeRLrN1Rm9xQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) is another one that comes to mind for this - in this case, to differentiate from a certain other Washington further east on I-70 (& I-270).
Quote from: jmacswimmer on December 01, 2020, 08:41:59 AM
Delaware doesn't appear to have been mentioned yet - it gets a few appearances on I-295 approaching the DMB from NJ (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6794173,-75.4894197,3a,75y,292.52h,85.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJq99SPzWbFCR0vA9zNPq7w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en).
Quote from: The Nature Boy on November 30, 2020, 02:23:35 PM
Is NH the only state to use the state abbreviation after a city in its own state?
Washington PA (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2178372,-79.6000422,3a,54.4y,306.82h,89.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKFYdHahmnmSeRLrN1Rm9xQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) is another one that comes to mind for this - in this case, to differentiate from a certain other Washington further east on I-70 (& I-270).
Washington, Virginia, as well, to distinguish from the more well-known one. Notably, it's signed that way even when you're heading westbound, away from the District of Columbia, as on this sign just west of Warrenton: https://goo.gl/maps/3zSDrgBVkwmRsDCZ6
Virginia also signs Great Falls with the state suffix to distinguish from an area with the same name right across the river in Maryland.
Of course, both of these examples are somewhat different from the Portsmouth example cited above because these two are situations where there could be reason for ambiguity. I wonder whether the Portsmouth example is a case of the DOT not wanting someone to conflate the two lines into one destination, i.e., reading Portsmouth as being a location in Maine. Maybe someone could think the words just wouldn't fit on a single line. This is maybe not as totally crazy as it sounds: On the Beltway, there are some signs listing "Washington" (the city) on one line and "National Harbor" (a development in suburban Maryland) on the line immediately below, but I know a couple of people who have suggested that the sign reads like it's referring to one place called "Washington National Harbor" (this perhaps consistent with the former name of Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport): https://goo.gl/maps/Zx5nYgo2zyvqGrgM8
Quote from: bassoon1986 on November 29, 2020, 12:03:25 AM
New Hampshire and Massachusetts:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201129/cc6f00568d95636615df234d32944b8b.jpg)
This sign no longer exists, it was replaced with "Portsmouth / Boston": https://goo.gl/maps/k1wth4mCPA21cem28 The less old "New Hampshire / Massachusetts" sign on the C/D road *I think* is still there though (for now): https://goo.gl/maps/jhP6y3wRkt4d68kK8
Previously there were some "NH-Maine" signs for 95 north in Mass, but I believe those have now all been replaced with "Portsmouth NH / Portland ME" or "Portsmouth NH / Kittery ME".
^^^^
Interesting to see that the new sign over the main lanes retains the state-named shield while the one over the C/D road is neutered.
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 01, 2020, 08:55:52 AM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on December 01, 2020, 08:41:59 AM
Delaware doesn't appear to have been mentioned yet - it gets a few appearances on I-295 approaching the DMB from NJ (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6794173,-75.4894197,3a,75y,292.52h,85.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJq99SPzWbFCR0vA9zNPq7w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en).
Quote from: The Nature Boy on November 30, 2020, 02:23:35 PM
Is NH the only state to use the state abbreviation after a city in its own state?
Washington PA (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2178372,-79.6000422,3a,54.4y,306.82h,89.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKFYdHahmnmSeRLrN1Rm9xQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) is another one that comes to mind for this - in this case, to differentiate from a certain other Washington further east on I-70 (& I-270).
Washington, Virginia, as well, to distinguish from the more well-known one. Notably, it's signed that way even when you're heading westbound, away from the District of Columbia, as on this sign just west of Warrenton: https://goo.gl/maps/3zSDrgBVkwmRsDCZ6
Virginia also signs Great Falls with the state suffix to distinguish from an area with the same name right across the river in Maryland.
Of course, both of these examples are somewhat different from the Portsmouth example cited above because these two are situations where there could be reason for ambiguity. I wonder whether the Portsmouth example is a case of the DOT not wanting someone to conflate the two lines into one destination, i.e., reading Portsmouth as being a location in Maine. Maybe someone could think the words just wouldn't fit on a single line. This is maybe not as totally crazy as it sounds: On the Beltway, there are some signs listing "Washington" (the city) on one line and "National Harbor" (a development in suburban Maryland) on the line immediately below, but I know a couple of people who have suggested that the sign reads like it's referring to one place called "Washington National Harbor" (this perhaps consistent with the former name of Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport): https://goo.gl/maps/Zx5nYgo2zyvqGrgM8
I am honestly embarrassed that I forgot "Great Falls VA" given that I see that sign with some degree of regularity. Just goes to show how much things blend together when you see them a lot.
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 30, 2020, 10:18:48 AM
BTW, how about "U.S.A." as a control on a BGS? (Of course, there are also the signs on northbound I-81 in Upstate New York that use simply "Canada.")
https://goo.gl/maps/92AyF2nCPJu6jcPc9
the Exit for I-96 (east) at I-94 in Detroit also use Canada as a control city https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3484394,-83.1039377,3a,18.6y,71.54h,87.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sy75Le-NOzPCYEEReKOeaiQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
and Exit 275 on I-69/I-94 have USA/Pt. Huron as a control city for M-25 https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9899574,-82.4646937,3a,48.3y,90.59h,91.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skI5mHm2qfYOIuEN0SVB6-g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
Sorry for a long bump, but was just GSVing and found New Brunswick specifically called out as a control city for I-95 in Maine. I don't know that anyone had found provinces specifically (not including I-5 having Vancouver, BC to differentiate between it and the Portland suburb.
(https://i.postimg.cc/d1cLJ4Ld/Maine.png)
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.1384397,-67.8396013,3a,75y,140.16h,85.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSHh40szJrh3tzOzEcIXA1A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Chris
I-190 mentions Canada (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1206229,-79.0051018,3a,45y,311.33h,88.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLAt2O8z9-YgAKupVrONkkw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1), but not Ontario specifically...
In North Bay, ON, Hwy 63 uses "Province of Quebec" as its control city from Hwy 11/17 (because there's basically nothing between North Bay and the QC border 63 km away).
(https://i.imgur.com/7Zz4rLLl.jpg)
Here's some signage on A-30 in Brossard, QC suggesting A-10 east to reach Vermont.
(https://i.imgur.com/BfAdygFl.jpg)
Also on A-10 EB (somewhere east of A-30), there's a sign giving exit numbers to reach Vermont and New Hampshire. The I-91 shield looks a lot better than the I-89 one.
(https://i.imgur.com/cqNkkAIl.jpg)
Quote from: deathtopumpkins on December 01, 2020, 09:44:54 AM
Quote from: bassoon1986 on November 29, 2020, 12:03:25 AM
New Hampshire and Massachusetts:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201129/cc6f00568d95636615df234d32944b8b.jpg)
This sign no longer exists, it was replaced with "Portsmouth / Boston": https://goo.gl/maps/k1wth4mCPA21cem28 The less old "New Hampshire / Massachusetts" sign on the C/D road *I think* is still there though (for now): https://goo.gl/maps/jhP6y3wRkt4d68kK8
Previously there were some "NH-Maine" signs for 95 north in Mass, but I believe those have now all been replaced with "Portsmouth NH / Portland ME" or "Portsmouth NH / Kittery ME".
The old BGS for 90 East at the end of I-84 used to read "N.H.-Maine/Boston" . The states on new signage were replaced by Worcester.
All over Chicago area, Indiana is used for SE bound routes. 90 & 94 south of the Loop and Tri State tollway 94/294/80, from WI state line down.
Gary has shrunk in population and is smaller than Hammond, not a true control city anymore. Most drivers are going to someplace in IN, anyway. No complaints here.
Quote from: The Nature Boy on November 29, 2020, 10:26:13 PM
For New York, I'm a fan of this one in Back Bay in Boston.
(https://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-photo-road-sign-to-new-york-city-via-interstate-boston-ma-131513006.jpg)
I acknowledge the ambiguity of the sign and whether it refers to NY City or NY State. There's a reasonable argument for either.
I've seen it on a handful of signs, but what does the white U with an arrow in negative space mean?
Quote from: webny99 on October 06, 2021, 02:43:40 PM
I-190 mentions Canada (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1206229,-79.0051018,3a,45y,311.33h,88.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLAt2O8z9-YgAKupVrONkkw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1), but not Ontario specifically...
I-94/I-69 near Port Huron, MI also uses Canada. (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9672832,-82.4895895,3a,75y,359.61h,89.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syjof_T295O5H0waPZTcAzA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
There are a number of signs along US 2 in Montana that point to Canada.(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51410196005_fe75167b1c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mjWGaK)2021 Western road trip Day 4 - 094 (https://flic.kr/p/2mjWGaK) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51409965859_491d5bb7fd_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mjVvKH)2021 Western road trip Day 4 - 132 (https://flic.kr/p/2mjVvKH) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr
So for Canada, currently we only have QC and NB. I'm sure we can find some others.
Chris
West Virginia isn't used on any BGS as far as I know, but VDOT does use "W. Va. Line" on mileage signs like this one on US 220 north of Monterey: https://goo.gl/maps/GRLDi9VtuwZUApYr5
Quote from: Bitmapped on October 07, 2021, 01:00:11 PM
West Virginia isn't used on any BGS as far as I know, but VDOT does use "W. Va. Line" on mileage signs like this one on US 220 north of Monterey: https://goo.gl/maps/GRLDi9VtuwZUApYr5
And where eastbound VA 83 splits from westbound US 460 in Grundy.
I've seen the WV state line used in other places in Virginia, but never for Kentucky on any of the routes that cross from Virginia into here.
Quote from: Bruce on October 07, 2021, 05:26:17 AM
I've seen it on a handful of signs, but what does the white U with an arrow in negative space mean?
It's the logo of UDOWN (https://udown.com/), a Hawaiian clothing brand.
QuoteUDOWN was forged from the free minds of a small group of young men from Oʻahu, Hawaiʻi. Eclipsing the status quo since 1999, UDOWN is a lifestyle brand that began on the foundation of filming gnarly antics and stunts–dares solicited with the question, "RUDOWN?" The brand has since evolved into a retail clothing and apparel company still standing firmly on the foundation of that lifestyle.
QuoteUDOWN DOES NOT AID, ABET, SOLICIT, OR COUNSEL ANYONE TO VANDALIZE PUBLIC AND/OR PRIVATE PROPERTY. Please show some respect and courtesy by not placing our stickers on personal property, businesses, churches, cemetaries, or schools!
The New York State Thruway used "PA Line" southwest of Buffalo. Before the 1980s the signs said "PENNA LINE" .
Quote from: machias on October 07, 2021, 04:16:43 PM
The New York State Thruway used "PA Line" southwest of Buffalo. Before the 1980s the signs said "PENNA LINE" .
I think at least one such sign read "Pa Line" with a lower case 'a'... because I remember thinking as a young kid what a weird town name that was, only to later laugh at myself for not realizing it meant the state line and not a town called Pa Line :-D
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 07, 2021, 02:45:11 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 07, 2021, 05:26:17 AM
I've seen it on a handful of signs, but what does the white U with an arrow in negative space mean?
It's the logo of UDOWN (https://udown.com/), a Hawaiian clothing brand.
Huh. Sad that many of our older button copy signs are getting vandalized, then.
Quote from: webny99 on October 07, 2021, 04:34:39 PM
Quote from: machias on October 07, 2021, 04:16:43 PM
The New York State Thruway used "PA Line" southwest of Buffalo. Before the 1980s the signs said "PENNA LINE" .
I think at least one such sign read "Pa Line" with a lower case 'a'... because I remember thinking as a young kid what a weird town name that was, only to later laugh at myself for not realizing it meant the state line and not a town called Pa Line :-D
Actually, they were all Pa Line at one point, darn auto correct. :) the NYSDOT signs in that corner of the state often refer to Erie Pa, Warren Pa, Bradford Pa
Quote from: machias on October 07, 2021, 07:53:59 PM
Quote from: webny99 on October 07, 2021, 04:34:39 PM
Quote from: machias on October 07, 2021, 04:16:43 PM
The New York State Thruway used "PA Line" southwest of Buffalo. Before the 1980s the signs said "PENNA LINE" .
I think at least one such sign read "Pa Line" with a lower case 'a'... because I remember thinking as a young kid what a weird town name that was, only to later laugh at myself for not realizing it meant the state line and not a town called Pa Line :-D
Actually, they were all Pa Line at one point, darn auto correct. :) the NYSDOT signs in that corner of the state often refer to Erie Pa, Warren Pa, Bradford Pa
The town line signs for North Reading, MA have changed from No. Reading to N. Reading (not recently) to avoid confusion.
Any state that uses their outline as their state route shield have multiple instances of US states on BGS. :bigass:
Quote from: US 89 on November 29, 2020, 04:53:28 PM
Due to a relative lack of large cities on I-70 west of Grand Junction, the westbound control city there is simply "Utah":
(https://live.staticflickr.com/1768/28434682147_68e104b0e3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KjFbmt)
And that's the best choice, in my opinion. The issue there is that half of the westbound traffic on 70 will exit on US 6 to head up towards Salt Lake. Taking just interstates into account you could use Las Vegas or St George, but that carries a bit of confusion potential since those cities are located in the opposite direction from Salt Lake on I-15.
As this GSV from 2012 shows (https://goo.gl/maps/oiEzg9G5zAm9XFT86), the control city used to be Green River, the last town before the US 6 split...but Green River has just over 900 people. Probably the right call to just go with Utah here.
There's a lone surviving ground-mounted BGS on EB Bus-70 at the I-70 split in Clifton. Oddly enough, it ID'S GREENRIVER as all one word.
A better example of Arizona as a control city, depending on how you read the sign is at the US-160/US‐491 split south of Cortez.
US-491
https://maps.app.goo.gl/32PrqTYrnwCF2eN68
Quote from: bassoon1986 on November 28, 2020, 11:57:44 PM
New York: "NY State" on I-84 WB in Danbury, CT "NY" I-295 on I-95 approaching Wilmington, DE
Changed to Newburgh about 10-15 years ago.
From the border crossings I've been to in Ontario they only say "Bridge to USA" as opposed to the actual state like Quebec posts, wonder why
Eastbound I-94 at I-69 in Port Huron (https://goo.gl/maps/TJrmrijXK1BShsXA6).
(I know it's not a US state, but it fits the spirit of the thread.)
The ongoing discussion about which states post the best and worst control cities reminded me of this old thread. Oregon hasn't been mentioned yet, and I think this sign on northbound US 101 (copied over from the AARoads highway guides) just north of Crescent City qualifies:
(https://www.aaroads.com/california/images101/us-101_nb_exit_794_04.jpg)
Quote from: JayhawkCO on October 07, 2021, 12:54:11 PM
So for Canada, currently we only have QC and NB. I'm sure we can find some others.
Chris
I hadn't looked at this thread in a long time and so hadn't seen this post. It immediately made me think of the following BGS in New Brunswick that lists PEI (in English and French):
https://goo.gl/maps/u8qZuPhwvFU35K7i6
Nova Scotia's sign uses English only (I deem "PEI Ferry" to be close enough to simply using the province):
https://goo.gl/maps/QpDVhRXnujPePCfRA
Similar to that, "Newfoundland Ferry" appears on various signs (sometimes as "Nfld."):
https://goo.gl/maps/mX28fpK137xJSbaB8
https://goo.gl/maps/eKjsRcamWGwYZSVc6
Similarly, Newfoundland has signs for "Nova Scotia Ferry":
https://goo.gl/maps/5WsC38uqBQ1yJCw58
Here's New Brunswick on a BGS near Truro, Nova Scotia (Amherst is a town in Nova Scotia):
https://goo.gl/maps/j3zV7Hc5fECtP5qk6
Updating another old thread because "Max Rockatansky's" post on CA 62 in Pacific Southwest reminded me of this. Here's "California" on BGS on Arizona SR 95 in Parker:
Southbound AZ 95: https://goo.gl/maps/yeKeN4CTtadJqeMeA (https://goo.gl/maps/yeKeN4CTtadJqeMeA)
Northbound AZ 95: https://goo.gl/maps/DnXjdjAZwv4tnrqeA (https://goo.gl/maps/DnXjdjAZwv4tnrqeA)
On the subject of Oregon, Washington uses it when a route there doesn't end in a notable place. WA-409 is signed as "To Oregon" in place of (unincorporated) Westport:
(https://i.imgur.com/C5dxrhS.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/0hkhpT8.jpg)
Similarly, WA-432 lists "Oregon" as a destination when it exits itself, and the (unsigned) WA-433 uses it as if a direction:
(https://i.imgur.com/1QSM2s1.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/UiuGKQN.jpg)
In Quebéc,
"Maine (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.7259856,-71.2774854,3a,18.7y,272.96h,88.3t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sAJV_9cdp--yNk9-JlX1WtQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DAJV_9cdp--yNk9-JlX1WtQ%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D74.34453%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)" and/or "Maine (USA") (Examples: 1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.7299437,-71.2814467,3a,17.2y,186.16h,92.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sngg9ycRRi6KUAoqcNpoNXw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), 2 (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.7268707,-71.2818925,3a,29y,188.29h,92.45t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdx6ajra_CQ3eogk6bs0L7A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), 3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.1355798,-70.6456936,3a,30.5y,153.52h,90.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHc25guQ8_N4gUTDBDq_2xQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)), along with a US 201 shield is posted as control cities on Autoroute 73 from Autoroute 20 (TCH/Route Transcanadienne) to the Route 204 roundabout. "Maine (USA)" is listed on smaller distance signs on Quebec Route 173 heading south.
On the topic of Maine, the Falmouth Spur exit (11) on I-295 has NH-Mass and Points South as the control cities - one of the signs was even replaced with the same destinations in around 2020 or 2021.
~2.5 km (1.5 mi) before exit (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.7528043,-70.2150909,3a,25.1y,217.47h,94.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sURr05NHbknWv5o96Wfkx1A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
~2 km (1 mi) before exit (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.7470882,-70.2206243,3a,28.6y,212.4h,91.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHqdMlaP2hwsvIrzJJ7l2Fw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
Exit sign before gore (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.7370161,-70.2276716,3a,75y,226.54h,78.56t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4dpPw62dfMD3BoIfcUS4gQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
At exit (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.7344779,-70.2291612,3a,26.5y,208.14h,90.48t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1scSArUF8BQUldn_HiN1PYzA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DcSArUF8BQUldn_HiN1PYzA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D25.61605%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
Quebéc (City) and the province of Quebéc (listed as P.Q.) is listed on one guide sign on I-95 north as "Quebec, P.Q. (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.5823675,-69.6253123,3a,15y,60.42h,86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPEPpKLF-wYs7FZR6olZwsg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)". A few mileage signs on US Route 201 towards the Quebéc/Maine border are a bit inconsistent, from "Quebec P.Q (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9634323,-69.8623066,3a,19.5y,35.7h,85.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snYUO6qoycPa4kZb8Nw0-aw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)", to simply just "Quebec (City)" (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.0607438,-69.8820187,3a,15.7y,45.29h,86.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLHwk5keKL5ews78OjChkvA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), and then another sign saying "Quebec City" proper (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.6179348,-70.2439456,3a,15.2y,24.63h,89.08t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sC8FOW_WodcbB7r-uk3z-xg!2e0!5s20220801T000000!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu).
Quote from: wanderer2575 on November 08, 2021, 10:55:47 AM
Eastbound I-94 at I-69 in Port Huron (https://goo.gl/maps/TJrmrijXK1BShsXA6).
(I know it's not a US state, but it fits the spirit of the thread.)
And on the other side of the Blue Water Bridge, you get these at the interchanges in Sarnia.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9891392,-82.397646,3a,37.3y,206.63h,91.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGtpr9maoWaVB7vKXx80OOw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Quote from: webny99 on October 07, 2021, 04:34:39 PM
Quote from: machias on October 07, 2021, 04:16:43 PM
The New York State Thruway used "PA Line" southwest of Buffalo. Before the 1980s the signs said "PENNA LINE" .
I think at least one such sign read "Pa Line" with a lower case 'a'... because I remember thinking as a young kid what a weird town name that was, only to later laugh at myself for not realizing it meant the state line and not a town called Pa Line :-D
Delaware State Line is used on travel time VMSs on I-95 in Maryland. I think that's the only time MD acknowledges Delaware exists, but God forbid mentioning Wilmington.
Quote from: Crown Victoria on November 29, 2020, 02:06:56 PM
Quote from: Jim on November 29, 2020, 01:36:14 PM
Not an individual state, but an the entire New England region on I-87 north in Woodbury. March 21, 2007.
(https://www.teresco.org/pics/signs/20070321/i84exit17.jpg)
I'll also add in this sign on I-81 approaching I-78, advising truckers to continue north to I-84 to access New England. Not necessarily listed as a control, but an honorable mention nonetheless.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4219922,-76.5364759,3a,75y,127.22h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slpvQ40m9dZKnOm9bbalNTA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
Also
this on I-80 in Pennsylvania (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0454225,-76.0130847,3a,75y,78.46h,88.85t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sbEQLZ6NLWNMtWsSFPAa5kw!2e0!5s20230601T000000!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu) at the junction with I-81.
Quote from: jmacswimmer on December 01, 2020, 08:41:59 AM
Delaware doesn't appear to have been mentioned yet - it gets a few appearances on I-295 approaching the DMB from NJ (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6794173,-75.4894197,3a,75y,292.52h,85.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJq99SPzWbFCR0vA9zNPq7w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en).
Quote from: The Nature Boy on November 30, 2020, 02:23:35 PM
Is NH the only state to use the state abbreviation after a city in its own state?
Washington PA (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2178372,-79.6000422,3a,54.4y,306.82h,89.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKFYdHahmnmSeRLrN1Rm9xQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) is another one that comes to mind for this - in this case, to differentiate from a certain other Washington further east on I-70 (& I-270).
Also
Nashville, IL (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.3920682,-89.3775598,3a,75y,94.81h,89.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDghOv8vOD0SWnaYIYjX6ag!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu) on I-64.
Quote from: Gnutella on July 27, 2023, 02:56:40 AM
Quote from: Crown Victoria on November 29, 2020, 02:06:56 PM
Quote from: Jim on November 29, 2020, 01:36:14 PM
Not an individual state, but an the entire New England region on I-87 north in Woodbury. March 21, 2007.
(https://www.teresco.org/pics/signs/20070321/i84exit17.jpg)
I'll also add in this sign on I-81 approaching I-78, advising truckers to continue north to I-84 to access New England. Not necessarily listed as a control, but an honorable mention nonetheless.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4219922,-76.5364759,3a,75y,127.22h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slpvQ40m9dZKnOm9bbalNTA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
Also this on I-80 in Pennsylvania (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0454225,-76.0130847,3a,75y,78.46h,88.85t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sbEQLZ6NLWNMtWsSFPAa5kw!2e0!5s20230601T000000!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu) at the junction with I-81.
Quote from: jmacswimmer on December 01, 2020, 08:41:59 AM
Delaware doesn't appear to have been mentioned yet - it gets a few appearances on I-295 approaching the DMB from NJ (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6794173,-75.4894197,3a,75y,292.52h,85.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJq99SPzWbFCR0vA9zNPq7w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en).
Quote from: The Nature Boy on November 30, 2020, 02:23:35 PM
Is NH the only state to use the state abbreviation after a city in its own state?
Washington PA (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2178372,-79.6000422,3a,54.4y,306.82h,89.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKFYdHahmnmSeRLrN1Rm9xQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) is another one that comes to mind for this - in this case, to differentiate from a certain other Washington further east on I-70 (& I-270).
Also Nashville, IL (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.3920682,-89.3775598,3a,75y,94.81h,89.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDghOv8vOD0SWnaYIYjX6ag!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu) on I-64.
Washington, VA, on US 211.
I never really got the inclusion of IL on the Nashville sign, especially since I-64 doesn't go to any other large-sized cities near Nashville.
QuoteI never really got the inclusion of IL on the Nashville sign, especially since I-64 doesn't go to any other large-sized cities near Nashville.
I would assume because of traffic using I-64 EB to I-57 SB to I-24 EB.
Quote from: 74/171FAN on July 27, 2023, 02:37:17 PM
QuoteI never really got the inclusion of IL on the Nashville sign, especially since I-64 doesn't go to any other large-sized cities near Nashville.
I would assume because of traffic using I-64 EB to I-57 SB to I-24 EB.
I-24 almost has an "implied" concurrency with 57 and 64 between its western terminus and St Louis, its western control.
The first I-24/Nashville BGS is on I-64E approaching the I-57 concurrency at Mt Vernon, as if IDOT is quietly acknowledging the I-24-bound traffic on 64